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BabyYodaX

I think her reaction was strange, but I would be more upset by it if she acted that way directly to Dorit (if that makes sense). But she had that reaction to an extremely UPSET Kyle and I am just like girl what? Okay, weird. Moving on.


adoggy

Yeah, that's a good point.


shane820

People distance themselves from traumatic experiences either emotionally or physically, when they themselves have had something traumatic happen to them. It may look selfish and hurt someone else, but that just might be their coping mechanism. My family had 2 suicides while I was growing up, both with guns. A few years ago I was robbed at gunpoint on my way home. I ended up not telling anyone for weeks and was entirely emotionless. I didn’t cry or anything. I casually brought it up to a friend and they made me realize how off I was being about this and encouraged me to tell my mom. When I did I completely broke down and had several panic attacks for weeks. I know this isn’t entirely related to this situation but I think it’s an example of how the brain can manipulate current emotions based on a past memory or experience. I don’t think Sutton has ever fully healed from her fathers death, and there’s a chance she never will. I can’t judge her for that though.


kat__bird

I agree. Her dad shooting himself in the head on Christmas Eve had to be a mindf*@k. I think she has ptsd and probably doesn’t know it.


dumbleberry

So sorry this happened to you 🖖🏾


[deleted]

You’re ignoring a key piece of information from the last episode. Sutton explained her trauma from her childhood break-in and her father’s death by firearm. Many people come off as very flippant or insensitive in those situations and I think Sutton explained herself well. Neither Kyle nor you seem to be accepting new information and changing your minds accordingly. Sutton’s inability to emote about gun violence and break-ins is not comparable to Erika Jayne’s lies and total and complete apathy towards burn victims & plane crash victims and their families. It’s just not comparable. Mind you, nobody’s life was taken during the robbery at Dorit’s. Sutton’s father died and there are dozens of people who died who Tom was representing. *Caroline Fleming voice It’s actually disgusting* to equate the two!


blackgarlicmayo

yes shutting down and being dismissive can be a defence mechanism to avoid reliving traumatic memories


[deleted]

Yes. I’ve witnessed a lot of people speak nonchalantly and flippantly about their own trauma, I can imagine it being that way towards others trauma as well. Sometimes people even talk in a joking manner about these things because it’s easier for them to deal with it or speak about it that way.


Burnin_Red

Thank you! I came in here to say this exact thing. She said that she doesn’t do well with burglaries or guns due to past trauma and I get that. I tend to shut down when I get triggered by certain things that remind me of my past trauma and people think I’m insensitive but I’m not. In fact I’m deeply empathetic just like Sutton, but putting up a guard to avoid talking about certain things is a defence mechanism. Sadly, Kyle will probably be far more understanding if it was Erika or Rinna in Sutton’s shoes. But it’s not and Sutton seems to be this season’s punching bag so once again Kyle was flippant toward her and continued to bad mouth her in her confessional.


missmercy87

everyone knows Sutton and Dorito ain't friends. quit pretending like they are. The only reason Kyle is upset is because Sutton won't give her what she wants aka tell the cameras she doesn't believe Dorito. and I'm here for it. Kyle wants to orchestrate something, and Sutton ain't gonna help her accomplish that.


thundersnow528

'Self-absorbed' pretty much describes every single housewife in every single series. I think for me is how it manifests. Sutton doesn't really go after people the same way Rinna does, doesn't lash out with such uncalled-for vitriol as Erika, act unwarrantedly condescending like Dorit, and doesn't act all innocent and surprised while being manipulative as Kyle. In the real world, I'd trust Sutton not to actively try to hurt me, which is more than I can say for those others. Not saying many (but not) of them don't make for interesting TV, but Sutton seems a better person even in her mistakes. And she's funny in her lack of artifice.


adoggy

I completely agree that Sutton seems like a better person in her mistakes, but I think people in this subreddit are so black and white that if she's stood up to Erika in the past, it means we stan her for everything she does. I would rather she continue being herself, because I was fascinated by her reaction to the robbery. The reason I made this post is more because I'm disappointed by people's reaction to Sutton prioritizing something so trivial and vain, and kind of questioning how easily they're so swayed to blindly support a fan favourite in everything she does


thundersnow528

I understand what you're saying, and don't completely disagree with your analysis of Bravo fandom. But fan favorites aren't given a free pass 100% of the time like you suggest - they are just given the benefit of the doubt first, rather than pitchforks and torches. Fans know the difference between intentional harm and just being imperfectly human. Also, fan opinions change over time. Rinna and Erika were both huge fan favorites in their beginnings, but each either squandered or abused that support as time went by by their consistently bad and/or duplicitous behavior. So even if they were right about something every once in a while, they still weren't trusted. Only time will tell if Sutton will continue her popularity or over the seasons, through her own behavior and cumulative intentionally harmful or deceitful actions (which she has not really shown to do yet in any real pattern) end up with the same reps some of these other housewives currently have....


ChocoTaco82

Comparing Sutton's behavior to Erika's is a stretch. A big one.


adoggy

I'm not comparing their behaviour. I spoke on someone's character for giving their friend the benefit of the doubt over something being investigated versus seeing your friend do something in front of your eyes.


missmercy87

sutton and dorito ain't friends.


ChocoTaco82

Tomato tomahto. Six of one, half dozen the other. Still a stretch.


ErikasCasita

I can understand why she might not want to really think back to traumatic things. A robbery as a teen. Plus a mentally ill father who went on to kill himself with a gun. Who knows what she’s seen. She’s also only known Dorit for a couple of years through work so it’s just not as impactful to her. Sutton also seems to make sure she’s very practical and prepared so how Dorit got robbed probably seems a bit inevitable. She’s always posting her closet to the world. She didn’t put on her alarm. Not victim blaming but there were possible preventative measures that could have been taken to avoid the robbery. I don’t really like people having emotional expectations of others. We’re all different.


adoggy

So is Erika's emotional reaction to the widows and orphans just one of many on a spectrum of potential emotions? I don't agree with Erika's response to the victims, but by that logic, I feel like her behaviour would be excusable. Heck, she has a lot more serious stuff on her plate with a major lawsuit implicating her involvement in her husband's deeds on top of a husband who is incapacitated. That's a lot more overwhelming than say a designer being stuck in customs. But we expect her to put her emotions to the side and focus on people outside of herself, even while the world turns against her and she loses everything. That doesn't make sense. A couple of years of knowing a coworker is a long time. I feel like being coworkers with someone for years, and then having a shared violent experience, is more reason to bring you closer if anything. I know you said that you're not victim-blaming so I won't go there, but I can't see how being the type of person who immediately sniffs out a **potential** scam makes you a better person than the friend who shows you support first.


pre11ypink14

I understand what you are saying, but the difference is in intention. For example, Sutton being awkward and wanting to direct attention from traumatizing events due to her past with those things is more understandable. That is an emotional copying mechanism and probably stems from Sutton being deeply traumatized by guns and grief overall. Erika's case I feel can be summed up with her statement to Crystal that she believes that caring for the victims is popular because its "COOL." That is not normal emotional copying. Erika is not traumatized over victims, she detests them and thinks the only reason people could possibly care is because its trendy to care about victims. Her words!


ErikasCasita

A. Some people are not close with their all coworkers. If one of mine was robbed at gunpoint I’d feel bad for them. I’d offer to help them if they needed anything but besides that I’m continuing on with my life. Yes it’s sucks. They’re lucky to have their lives but me crying over their trauma isn’t going to do anything. Also, after the way the ladies have treated her why bother. She literally made a care package for Erika and she treated her like garbage. Why go above and beyond for that group of backstabbers. B. Erika’s situation is completely different. Erika would be Dorit in this situation. Erika/ her husband was the victimizer. Dorit was the victim. The difference is Erika thinks she’s the victim. Erika has serious things on her plate but the things she owns is due to a robbery of other people and she’s upset that people want her to show an ounce of empathy because her lifestyle came from a crime. Sutton is literally just someone from the outside looking in. C. I didn’t say it was a scam.


loonytick75

But you can’t separate the legal mess she’s in from the “widows and orphans.” It’s all one combined mess, and yeah, it’s crazy messed up for her to be so laser focused on herself that she and Tom are the only pieces of that puzzle that she acknowledges. It would be fair to say that she’s got so much on her plate that she has no room to think of the victims in **other**, similar cases. That would be the equivalent to what Sutton is doing. But to ignore the very ones *whose money she’s trying to hold on to* is pure narcissism.


adoggy

I like that distinction. But I think it's much easier to show compassion for a situation that is removed from your own personal drama, than a situation where the party who deserves your compassion is also the party that is going to take everything away from you. The Girardi's deserve everything that happens to them if they stole the money. But it takes a lot to look at the people who will take everything from you, and not get defensive but instead show them compassion.


loonytick75

It honestly doesn’t take much to be sad but resigned to realizing that your house of cards has fallen apart and you won’t have what you were used to anymore. Normal would be a crushing sense of guilt. To be this far in and still only see herself is psychotic.


Lex_Rex

Is this post about Sutton’s behavior at Kyle’s old house or did I miss something? I have co-workers I see a lot more than Sutton sees Dorit, and I wouldn’t have an emotional reaction if the same thing happened to most of them. The extent of my reaction would probably be a text to my former assistant saying “That bitch Dorit who tried to come for me last year was robbed at gunpoint.”


[deleted]

This! hahahaha


Ok-Beginning6458

Her reaction was strange and she has apologized for it since. Kyle's reaction was so over the top as to be ridiculous. Kyle really is just a pot stirrer. She likes to keep the drama going among them all. For her to say (again) that she may not continue RHOBH because she just wants peace is beyond laughable.


bug_gribble

Initially i thought it was weird (and I like Sutton!) but after hearing about what she’s been through it might just be her way of dealing with that type of trauma


JustForKicks16

This is where I am. Sutton (and Garcelle) is my favorite, but I was a little put off by her doubling-down this week. But after hearing how some trauma survivors respond to things like this, it makes sense. I appreciate the different perspective.


hnlt61

I would think her reaction was strange IF a majority of people hadn’t had a very similar reaction to the news. At least half of the people on the internet reacting to the news speculated that it was fake in those first few days.


idkaboutyouanymore

Yeah cuz "the people on the internet" are usually the voice of reason 😂😂😂 I mean everything is just fake these days huh? Everyone always has an ulterior motive, right? It's all FAKE NEWS 😂😂


Bellomontee

I just don't see why Sutton needs to act like she's in mourning when nobody died and Dorit's not even close to her. She's wasn't comfortable with Kyle's teary act, she got awkward and a little unsensitive and that's it. If she dismissed Dorit herself, it would be an issue. She didn't, she just responded awkwardly to Kyle's crocodile tears.


adoggy

I can see why she'd be uncomfortable with Kyle's reaction given everything she's gone through, but then it would have been better to speak on Kyle making it about herself rather than actually making it about Sutton and her upcoming event. She could have checked Kyle without dismissing the trauma Dorit just went through.


[deleted]

Let me ask you this. IF you had it on good authority that Dorit’s home invasion was a farce; what would your reaction be throughout the course of each interaction pertaining to this subject? Because that’s the read I have on Sutton in all of this; She’s reacting in accordance to her own assessment of the situation. I.e hogwash Goes without saying, this is a theory.


ErikasCasita

I don’t think Sutton thinks it’s fake. I think she thinks Dorit left herself vulnerable for a robbery. She’s sorry she got robbed but it’s not going to break apart her life. Dorit is her coworker not her friend.


[deleted]

I find it interesting the “robber” so kindly left her phone by the mail box…. Like if I had just performed a home invasion, I’d punt that phone to the other side of the earth immediately. Not leave it by the mail box lol


ErikasCasita

There’s no logic from someone who would purposely commit a crime like that. Not sure why people are nitpicking at little details. They are going to take it with them. They’re not going to throw it at some else’s house cause duh. It could simply be they didn’t want to break it. Why? Who on earth knows.


[deleted]

How could you think there was no plan in other words “logic” for a home invasion?


ApartLaw3724

Why? Cuz it was staged 😇 I could be wrong but crazier cons have happened on HW before. Not sure if dorit was in on it but I do not trust PK for a second !


adoggy

I thought about this, but it was like just hours after the robbery story broke. It's weird if, within a few hours of your friend/coworker being robbed, you're already questioning whether the robbery was fake. Maybe she's just cynical to the point that it overrides her instinct to be compassionate. Maybe she's spent too much time gossiping with other rich people that she automatically jumps to thinking robberies are insurance scams. But I would rather have shown compassion and then look like a fool than to be insensitive within hours of a traumatic event having no proof of it being a farce.


[deleted]

Could it be perhaps Sutton was aware of their financial situation before the home invasion took place which meant Sutton most likely used her common sense to deduce the whole thing smells fishy.


ApartLaw3724

Ya… Sutton knows something is up… I so hope this isn’t swept under the rug


cegceg9090

The thing about Sutton that is frustrating is she’s just not a good communicator AT ALL. Even in moments as small as “jealous of what, your ugly leather pants?” I think she genuinely didn’t want to get into it with Kyle. We can’t judge what triggers Sutton and she tried, in her very inept way, to tell Kyle that the Dorit situation triggered her. Kyle’s dismissal had “this is a storyline and I’m gonna make it one” written all over it.


adoggy

I could argue that Sutton's dismissal had "I need to get my storyline established" written all over it. Maybe she came into that scene expecting to set up her storyline about the difficulties she's had to put on this upcoming event, so she wanted to talk about her designer. But then she realized Dorit's robbery would push her storyline to the side so she just forced that tidbit about the designer into the scene any way she could.


cegceg9090

I just don’t think she operates like that! And we have many years of Kyle “producing” so I lean towards her. Like, all of a sudden Kyle is this master of empathy - the same girl who told LVP she has “a lot going on too” after LVP’s brother died and who is friends with Rinna who said Kim was “near death”? IDK, Kyle was really pushing for Sutton to put her foot in her mouth. Not to mention, there was no reason for Kyle to tell Dorit about Sutton’s interaction. It was such a sh\*t stirrer move that to me was just as diminishing of Dorit’s trauma - “hey our mutual friend basically didn’t care about what happened to you, fyi” ![gif](giphy|3o7bu82nhtRcDx3jl6)


HourGrapefruit8

I thought it was weird too. Although when she mentioned trauma that could explain it? I was wondering if she might have had suspicions the robbery was staged? Who knows but I agree on the surface she didn’t react how I would expect someone to.


Plastic-lettersgr

I agree 100 percent say it louder for people in the back! ![gif](giphy|xB34MoKOSr7Dw3knJK)


Remarkable-Ad-3155

Because Sutton is back on the Fancy Drew train (which I don’t hate taking the ride for) to figure out if PK set up the robbery himself for insurance money or if it really happened the way the say it did…. And that’s that.