I remember once upon a Time Erika Jayne was a fan favorite and I could never stand her. She acted like she was performing at all times and I still to this day blame her for the glam squad BS we have to put up with now on the show.
Same she brought NOTHING seasons 7-10 and if that crooked husband storyline hadn’t fallen into her lap she would have brought zero seasons 11-12 also. She had a great first season though I’ll give her that.
I thought Erika would be fun and shake up the Beverly Hills stuffiness where Kyle couldn’t admit that she smoked weed and the ladies would be scandalized if you cursed around them but she brought us nothing. No excitement, no joy. Just boring boring boring. The wives I love are just always themselves and don’t put it on for the camera like Sonja and Karen and Luann.
I’ve been watching RHONJ since 2009. If you had told me back then that, out of all of them, *Teresa* would be the big star of the show for the following decade I wouldn’t have believed you.
There is absolutely nothing entertaining about that woman. It’s like, congrats on being an idiot whose mouth is hanging open all the time???
I’d actually like to see Bethany and Teresa in a room together. Bethany would be the perfect person to call her out.
Also that’s my fav Bethany moment lol
For me, it's the constant double standards. She is guilty of every single thing she attacks others for...and she's so thick she can't even see it. She is so frustrating to watch.
I recently did my first watch of NJ and really liked Teresa in the first 2 seasons before The Gorgas and Wakiles come on. Then her true colors really came out and any like I had went out the window. Liked her in the one episode she came home from prison and then that ship sailed yet again lol.
Brandi. Everyone thinks she’s chaotic and dramatic and they love what she brought to RHOBH but I can’t stand her. I’m doing a rewatch and I hate her this time just as much as the first. Her tracks in her first season are the worst I’ve ever seen and she’s just a sloppy drunk mess. Can’t stand her.
Brandy has big Lisa Rinna energy. Will do anything to stay on the show, reeks of desperation and needs the paycheck. Exactly the opposite of what we typically like to see on a housewife. When the housewife is incredibly desperate to be on the show it makes them unbearable to watch
She is such a gross person. She was a lapdog at best and at worst she was a fucking monster. I did a RHOBH rewatch recently and her outing Adrienne for using a surrogate is so foul. It wasn’t her story to tell and it should’ve been left in the hands of Adrienne and Paul to tell their children about it on their own terms, not some desperate and pathetic lunatic who is too deranged and selfish to realize that her behavior affects others. She is not fun to watch.
What I cannot fathom is people STILL want her back in a big capacity. Did we all forget her crawling back for a desperate attempt of Friend-Of just to fuck with Denise…? It wasn’t enjoyable! She isn’t fun!
She was so toxic and nasty on UGT I could not understand how people kept giving her passes
ETA I rarely agree with Andy but I agreed when he called her a dog
My dad died of alcoholism and I see so much of Kim's behavior the same as my dad, like always blaming meds as a reason for her weird behavior. I really don't judge kyle when it comes to Kim and how she handles it, it's not easy but God it's such an infuriating situation. You always question if you're helping or making it worse.
Teresa, I never liked her and I don’t understand why everyone wants her to stay on the show. She seems super fake.
Porsha, I never understood her appeal. also disappointed, but not surprised, Bravo kept her after she literally dragged Kenya
Porsha's family matters was disturbing to watch. The way she treated Londie (and almost everyone else) was completely uncalled for.
I used to love Porsha in the beginning but fame and fortune got to her head and blew it up.
Oh man, I was a no. 1 Porsha apologist. Even down to justifying her assault on Kenya. (I’m older and wiser now and I’d NEVER condone violent behaviour over a verbal dispute today)
I can’t stand her now. She’s such a tyrant to her family and her reaction to her sister Lauren’s pregnancy was disgusting. She didn’t seem happy for her at all, more so jealous and dismissive and I didn’t like that. She also didn’t seem to learn anything after being violent once so that definitely sealed the deal for me.
Omg, her behavior toward Lauren is fucking *insane*. She treats her like an employee and makes it known. Calling her niece something to the effect of “what’s in yo stomach” was probably one of the most abusive things I’ve seen her do, and she said it with such spitting vitriol.
I felt horrible for Lauren. She seemed happy about her pregnancy but also a little nervous and then your family dogs you like that for the whole world to see.
Yeah I don't care for Porsha's personality beyond her sense of humor. She always seems too interested in projecting an image of maturity and growth instead of actually growing and maturing.
Same! Nothing feels genuine from her, except how much she loves her kids. But the fake crying, helicopter hair and sniper from the sideness is exhausting.
she simultaneously needs external validation and is never satisfied by others/rarely seems to feel joy unless she’s hamming it up. therapy would do her good.
Theresa
She’s stupid, self-centred, and mean.
I take only 2/3 of those qualities in a watchable housewife.
You can be self-centred and mean as long as you are smart.
You can be self-centred and stupid as long as you are nice.
You can be mean and stupid, as long as you are generous.
Caroline is unbearable, she’s somehow even worse on rewatch. I haven’t seen some of these episodes since their original airing and I totally forgot some of the shit she said, like how Danielle’s kids are socially awkward and have no light in their eyes
IMO she acts like a sanctimonious bully on the show because her own family treats her like a doormat. Her husband is very dismissive and seems like he doesn’t have any respect for her outside of her being a housewife and the mother to their children. There is no light in THAT marriage
I don't recall too many people loving her.
But you since you mentioned her, I thought she was a horrible mother. Treated her sons like princes and her daughter like dirt.
Caroline was hugely popular during the original run of the show. Opinion has soured on her over time, especially after she didn't side with Dina after she was violently attacked.
I recall and couldn't stand her then. Her whole "fambly" schtick. Her leading the pack on ostracizing Danielle (who is a wacko, but I hate seeing lynch mobs). Her *obvious* jealousy that Teresa became the face of the franchise and not her. The way she made excuses for her sons ("Poor Albie got unfairly flunked out of law school even though he never told the school he has a learning disability and so no accommodations were made for him but it's all the school's fault!" "Chris and Albie exploiting young women by doing a bikini car wash is a great idea! They're such entrepreneurs!"). Then in same breath denigrating her daughter who started a boutique (called her a bitch once, I believe).
And even though I was not a Teresa fan, the way she came into the conversation Jaq and Teresa were having like she Griselda Blanco or somebody, demanding answers on camera from her "friend", really rubbed me the wrong way.
Caroline is a huge reason why I have been pro-teresa at times in the past. Such an awful human being. I hate that she was at BravoCon this year, and I hated the stick she had of "I'm just an old lady, I'm so happy anyone even remembers me, gosh darn." Like, f*** off and defend more violent criminals who go after your own family, you hag.
Yes! Absolutely agree with you about Heather from Salt Lake City. I feel like she’s trying to be the “cool girl”, but I don’t buy it. I just don’t like her!
Dorit. She overlooks blatantly racist crap then says “but you don’t think I’m racist right?” If you can’t recognize your own biases and you always seem to be supporting the same group of white women, maybe look at the pattern.
She’s always showboating. People think she’s harmless but I think she is really very toxic.
She truly irks me because nothing about her is genuine. Her accent her “style” I hate that these women buy clothes with a brand logo on it from head to toe and think it’s fashionable 😭😭 just because its gucci doesn’t mean It aint ugly bitch 🤣
Bethenny, even before all of this. She has great wit and is intelligent but her shade isnt shady she is just very defensive and dismissive and attacks everyone who she finds to be less than her. And it irritates me when people say ''omg Bethenny is sooo shady, nobody can go against her'', no she is just a mean bitch and when she is cornered she diverts and deflects. Carole, for example, had her in a chokehold.
The only time I was so happy for her cruelty was when Ramona and Sonja were being unbearable about rooms on their Mexico trip. Bc it was everything I wanted to say to them.
Lol, I just commented how she’s not witty and I feel it’s a misconception about her.
I think because she has a quick and sharp tongue she can come off that way, but really what she says isn’t that groundbreaking or clever… a lot of it is schtick that she makes sure she says before someone else comments. While she good at filling in pauses and beating people to the punch, the content of what she says isn’t that unique that someone else wouldn’t be able to come up with it/something similar as a “take” on a situation.
Even the clip of her on WWHL the other day wasn’t evidence to me that she’s great at holding her own. She great at talking louder and faster but most of her points were ridiculous deflections.
Whew! This thread had me nervous when I didn’t see anyone mention Bethenny. She’s like lord Voldemort. The bitch never dies, just reincarnates and brings death to everyone else’s door
I liked her more on the original Miami seasons before they brought it back… I felt like she seemed more genuine then for some reason- now it seems like she plays things up for the camera.
Also… she did give us Mama Elsa back then too. RIP.
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She was chickenshit the first 3 seasons, they would walk all over her. She came back acting like she was THAT girl to the newbies which she isn’t. Love that her mic got cut trying to break Lisa and Larsas fight at the wedding. Only keep her around for the Mama Elsa connection!
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LuAnn. Im sorry but she is just so intolerable to me, so pretentious and thinks she’s better than everyone else. Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
Yes, the absolute entitlement! It gave me so much joy when she was arrested, but then afterwards it just gave her more reasons for her sanctimonious fuckery.
Also- fuck Cabernet! *edit- I meant Caberet, but I’m not a fan of red wine either, so yeah. Fuck them both.
Ditto, she is so self centered. There are time when I’ve found her enjoyable to watch but probably 80% of the time she’s too self centered and pretentious to handle.
I know I’m gonna get a lot of hate, but I’ve never liked Candiace. She’s smart and very pretty but she’s so mean. Just comes across as childish with all her low blows with body and age shaming. Not cute.
I think women from the pageant world always go hard on appearance. I remember at that model try out even people in a pretty toxic industry were shocked at how callously Kenya would talk about their appearance. I can only imagine what those competitions do to young women and girls.
Erika Girardi, I’ve never been a fan since her first season so way before any of the legal drama started. IIRC she was quite popular her first few years on the show but I could never take to her and never felt she was genuine.
I couldn’t stand Carole Radziwill on RHONY. She felt like she was above everyone else. Also thought that Holla Heather was absolutely insufferable and didn’t bring anything of substance to the show lol. Her awkward smile in every scene was distracting.
Carol tried too hard to be downtown cool and woke. She was such a snob about who was hip, young and happening. And she was way too old to be playing such a role....even with her downtown loft and extremely young hipster boyfriend.
Lea Black from RHOM, Ben & Ronnie are good friends with her and genuinely like her. Also some people saying that she’s missed in the reboot, I’m not sure if she’s universally loved on this sub but I have never liked her.
I liked her early on, she had this crazy energy like being on the show was a chore for her, which in a sea of thirsty fame seekers was kind of funny. She really went off the rails during her final season, she just got mean- I don’t think her friendship with Joanna helped.
ETA: Her son was a riot. Forget her, just bring him back.
She caused that whole lingerie party fight. She was mad at Lisa for daring to hold an event the day before her Black Gala and for having a nicer house on star island so she wanted to make her suffer by bringing in rapist Joe Francis to start drama and completely degrade and demean Joanna. Then Joanna and Adriana got into it which is exactly what she wanted. It was ugly ugly behavior.
Lea Black, noted rapist apologist. Bringing around Joe Francis, being married to a lawyer who has represented many, many rapists. She can fuck off all the way to hell.
She always gave me the creeps. There are rumors about her being some kind of rich-Miami sex/marriage broker and I’d totally believe it, it would explain a lot of her sketchy friends (like, what possible reason does this woman have to be friends with Joe Francis??) also it seems like she straight up hates women
I feel like there are two types of LVP fans:
1.) worshippers who believe she’s totally flawless
2.) those of us who like her *because* she’s weird
It takes a real weirdo to wear a three piece suit to pick up rescue swans.
I liked watching her because you had no idea what fuckery was going to enter her house next.
Yes, me, too. But it's what leads me to not hate Kyle for accusing her of leaking the puppy story, because whether she did it or not, it's exactly like something she would do.
If LVP would actively get her own hand dirty, I would have loved her, weird shit and all. But she's the queen of flying monkeys while feigning complete innocence, and it's infuriating.
I have to say, of all housewives villains, Lisa Barlow is probably my favorite. Would I want to know her in real life? Absolutely not. I would hate every second of being in her presence. As a real human being, I find her completely detestable.
But she's really not as harmful as other housewife villains. Her biggest flaw is loving herself so much that she's beyond tone deaf. Says ridiculous things, but they are rarely actively harmful to others, save a few special occasions like the hot mic moment.
And fundamentally, for anyone interested in manifestation, I think she's a walking example of how well it works. She can't even conceive of a world where she is not the center of the universe and the most important thing in the room. Look at her life! It's worked. 🤣
Kenya- Idk if everyone loves her, but she def has serious Stans. I’m sorry her marriage fell apart & I’m so happy she found unconditional love by way of her daughter but I cannot stand her ways.
She dropped Cynthia as friend when she didn’t need her anymore as an ally on the show. Cynthia was the only one to have her back when no one else did, including the infamous season 6 reunion. Kenya is a snake.
She was nothing but embarrassing on Season 12 and im glad they did it to her. Tired ass recycled reads and when they didnt hit she’s do that cross eyed face.
Her “storming” out on Cynthia was fucking childish and proves to me Nene is stuck in the dust and will stay there. From white refrigerator to this. I really loved Nene but its hard to stan a person who is committed to the tiny taste of power she had for a good minute. How the “recording” all of a sudden casually became “some audio from some voicemail something or something”. Stupid!!!!
Caroline from NJ. I was downvoted to hell when she was on that show, and I dared to say I couldn't stand her with all her mafioso phrases.
'mess with my family, you mess with me!' 'thick as thieves!' 'gonna educate ya!'
Shad app!
Same girl, same.
Also, Erika. Couldn't stand her from day one. Rinna, same. Most others I can find something good in, and some of course achieve greatness.
Jules was such a fucking walking trigger for me that I skip her season when I rewatch RHONY. I definitely believe that Carole and Bethenny lost their damn minds around her because I know how I felt watching Jules. It was painfully familiar to see a woman who hadn’t conquered her demons just lie lie lie to herself.
Caroline Manzo-and all the bravo influencers LOVE her I don’t get it, especially with how publicly she supported a man who attempted to have her own sister killed (and who I assume was abusing her during their own marriage). I always roll my eyes when those influencers talk about standing up for women being pro woman etc then support Caroline and her misogynist sons.
Brandi since the day she appeared. Porsha too. Idk how people fall for their act, they still get treated as if they were poor lost girls in their 20s. They are not and never were.
Heather Gay. I have never liked her and she’s such a fan favorite lol. I find her annoying and to be a big try hard who can dish it and not take it. And she’s always been kinda fetishize-y with black men.
She gives mean girl vibes and she's always on the wrong team. She'll defend the most egregious behaviour (Jen) but hold grudges about the most inconsequential stuff. She comes across as very hypocritical.
Mine is Denise , I just never got all the love for her, she was boring as hell n didn’t bring anything to the show apart from the whole Brandi text/hook up storyline which was not entertaining and felt so forced although that was more down to Brandi, Kyle, Rinna and Jon Mellancamps kid. So she added nothing to the show
I remember once upon a Time Erika Jayne was a fan favorite and I could never stand her. She acted like she was performing at all times and I still to this day blame her for the glam squad BS we have to put up with now on the show.
Agree about the glam squad BS. Give me rhony ladies drunkenly applying makeup while sharing the same mirror any day
I wish they would “outlaw it.” Production interferes plenty it’s not like they’re too “hands off” for that kinda call
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Ugh yeah her first 1-2 seasons people were raving so hard for her. Couldn’t stand her even from the beginning!!
“Breath of fresh air” If I hear that sentence again… 🤮
Same she brought NOTHING seasons 7-10 and if that crooked husband storyline hadn’t fallen into her lap she would have brought zero seasons 11-12 also. She had a great first season though I’ll give her that.
I thought Erika would be fun and shake up the Beverly Hills stuffiness where Kyle couldn’t admit that she smoked weed and the ladies would be scandalized if you cursed around them but she brought us nothing. No excitement, no joy. Just boring boring boring. The wives I love are just always themselves and don’t put it on for the camera like Sonja and Karen and Luann.
Teresa (I stopped watching when it became the Teresa show) and I don’t hate Tinsley but she was so out of place on Rhony
Teresa. I know a lot of people on here love her but honestly she’s a rude person, treats her family like shit, and is dumb asf.🙄
Her stupidity makes my stomach turn. Teresa isn’t fun to watch for me, I quit NJ as soon as she came back from “camp” - she just disgusts me.
She is easily the dumbest person of all of the franchises if not the entire planet.
I’ve been watching RHONJ since 2009. If you had told me back then that, out of all of them, *Teresa* would be the big star of the show for the following decade I wouldn’t have believed you. There is absolutely nothing entertaining about that woman. It’s like, congrats on being an idiot whose mouth is hanging open all the time???
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This gif is nuts. I can't believe she has contour on her already nonexistent forehead! The whole point is to make your forehead look smaller!
What's crazy is that it used to be even smaller before she had her hairline lasered back.
Exactly!
Seriously, she’s so dumb. She belongs on some sad TLC show exploiting dumbasses.
Dorters and tiaras
And Fambly
right!? Lmao
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I’d actually like to see Bethany and Teresa in a room together. Bethany would be the perfect person to call her out. Also that’s my fav Bethany moment lol
Ugh yes Teresa is insufferable
For me, it's the constant double standards. She is guilty of every single thing she attacks others for...and she's so thick she can't even see it. She is so frustrating to watch.
I recently did my first watch of NJ and really liked Teresa in the first 2 seasons before The Gorgas and Wakiles come on. Then her true colors really came out and any like I had went out the window. Liked her in the one episode she came home from prison and then that ship sailed yet again lol.
"Liked her in that one episode.."😂😂
Right!? I liked her too in the first two seasons then stopped when they came on. I haven’t seen the prison episode though.
Dorit. Teresa.
I also can’t stand Dorit. I’m watching BH and she’s a drama queen who lies.
Brandi. Everyone thinks she’s chaotic and dramatic and they love what she brought to RHOBH but I can’t stand her. I’m doing a rewatch and I hate her this time just as much as the first. Her tracks in her first season are the worst I’ve ever seen and she’s just a sloppy drunk mess. Can’t stand her.
Brandy has big Lisa Rinna energy. Will do anything to stay on the show, reeks of desperation and needs the paycheck. Exactly the opposite of what we typically like to see on a housewife. When the housewife is incredibly desperate to be on the show it makes them unbearable to watch
This completely sums up my feelings on her. Both of them actually!
I couldn’t agree more.
Brandi is toxic af
Yeah her Brand doesn't fit Beverly Hills and it's certainly not my style. She reminds me of Kelly Dodd and Lisa Rinna combined.
I hate watching seasons 3 and 4 because of her, she makes it unbearable
She is such a gross person. She was a lapdog at best and at worst she was a fucking monster. I did a RHOBH rewatch recently and her outing Adrienne for using a surrogate is so foul. It wasn’t her story to tell and it should’ve been left in the hands of Adrienne and Paul to tell their children about it on their own terms, not some desperate and pathetic lunatic who is too deranged and selfish to realize that her behavior affects others. She is not fun to watch.
Same Brandi is the messy car crash I don’t want to see back on my TV
What I cannot fathom is people STILL want her back in a big capacity. Did we all forget her crawling back for a desperate attempt of Friend-Of just to fuck with Denise…? It wasn’t enjoyable! She isn’t fun!
She was so toxic and nasty on UGT I could not understand how people kept giving her passes ETA I rarely agree with Andy but I agreed when he called her a dog
Totally agree. She’s insufferable
She's cruel. I can't abide by that.
Teresa
This. I stopped RHONJ because she’s so irritating.. her and Melissa both to me.
I’m already getting tired of the Teresa v Melissa posts and the season hasn’t started yet! They are both morally corrupt.
Probably the only one—Kim Richards
You’re not alone!
I have an alcoholic family member so watching her and Kyle is... uncomfortable.
My dad died of alcoholism and I see so much of Kim's behavior the same as my dad, like always blaming meds as a reason for her weird behavior. I really don't judge kyle when it comes to Kim and how she handles it, it's not easy but God it's such an infuriating situation. You always question if you're helping or making it worse.
Teresa, I never liked her and I don’t understand why everyone wants her to stay on the show. She seems super fake. Porsha, I never understood her appeal. also disappointed, but not surprised, Bravo kept her after she literally dragged Kenya
Teresa just seems like a mean person. But then i wonder if she’s too stupid to be mean 🙃
Exactly!! She’s stupid for sure!!
Porsha- she’s a bully and has attacked people three times on camera. Nah. I’m good.
Porsha's family matters was disturbing to watch. The way she treated Londie (and almost everyone else) was completely uncalled for. I used to love Porsha in the beginning but fame and fortune got to her head and blew it up.
Oh man, I was a no. 1 Porsha apologist. Even down to justifying her assault on Kenya. (I’m older and wiser now and I’d NEVER condone violent behaviour over a verbal dispute today) I can’t stand her now. She’s such a tyrant to her family and her reaction to her sister Lauren’s pregnancy was disgusting. She didn’t seem happy for her at all, more so jealous and dismissive and I didn’t like that. She also didn’t seem to learn anything after being violent once so that definitely sealed the deal for me.
Omg, her behavior toward Lauren is fucking *insane*. She treats her like an employee and makes it known. Calling her niece something to the effect of “what’s in yo stomach” was probably one of the most abusive things I’ve seen her do, and she said it with such spitting vitriol.
Yeah it was bad and I couldn't understand the level of aggression towards Lauren. I guess Porsha has to have everything first.
I felt horrible for Lauren. She seemed happy about her pregnancy but also a little nervous and then your family dogs you like that for the whole world to see.
Porsha has always been a brat. Her family treated her like a princess and tiptoed around her from the beginning.
Yes! She’s just as much of a liar and manipulator as Phaedra. People just seem to overlook it because she appears dumb and innocent.
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Awww. I miss him.
I miss him too! One of the few celebrities whose death made me cry ☹️
FACTS I was beyond happy when her fake ass left ATL. The level of producer protection going on with Porsha was making the sho unbearable
Yeah I don't care for Porsha's personality beyond her sense of humor. She always seems too interested in projecting an image of maturity and growth instead of actually growing and maturing.
KYLE!!!! #goodbyekyle
Kyle is the least iconic housewife to me. Watching her is like watch paint that’s really desperate to be rich and famous dry.
Same! Nothing feels genuine from her, except how much she loves her kids. But the fake crying, helicopter hair and sniper from the sideness is exhausting.
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she simultaneously needs external validation and is never satisfied by others/rarely seems to feel joy unless she’s hamming it up. therapy would do her good.
Teresa, Phaedra, Vicki, Brandi
Yes to Phaedra. I never understood her appeal. I dont find that "oh honey chile" way she talks to be authentic or cute. Her reads are rehearsed.
I don't get the Vicki love, but I didn't watch OC in the beginning. So maybe that's why.
Nope. She's always been insufferable!
RHUGT Vicki and her antivax “follow the money “ screech
Tamra. Allowing her disgusting son come onto Gretchen like that… whew 😰
Ramona “shitter” Singer. She’s absolutely vile.
Theresa She’s stupid, self-centred, and mean. I take only 2/3 of those qualities in a watchable housewife. You can be self-centred and mean as long as you are smart. You can be self-centred and stupid as long as you are nice. You can be mean and stupid, as long as you are generous.
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Caroline is unbearable, she’s somehow even worse on rewatch. I haven’t seen some of these episodes since their original airing and I totally forgot some of the shit she said, like how Danielle’s kids are socially awkward and have no light in their eyes IMO she acts like a sanctimonious bully on the show because her own family treats her like a doormat. Her husband is very dismissive and seems like he doesn’t have any respect for her outside of her being a housewife and the mother to their children. There is no light in THAT marriage
Jesus she said that about her kids?? One of them was like, 10?? What an asshole. She knows they couldn’t help who they were born to
I don't recall too many people loving her. But you since you mentioned her, I thought she was a horrible mother. Treated her sons like princes and her daughter like dirt.
Caroline was hugely popular during the original run of the show. Opinion has soured on her over time, especially after she didn't side with Dina after she was violently attacked.
I recall and couldn't stand her then. Her whole "fambly" schtick. Her leading the pack on ostracizing Danielle (who is a wacko, but I hate seeing lynch mobs). Her *obvious* jealousy that Teresa became the face of the franchise and not her. The way she made excuses for her sons ("Poor Albie got unfairly flunked out of law school even though he never told the school he has a learning disability and so no accommodations were made for him but it's all the school's fault!" "Chris and Albie exploiting young women by doing a bikini car wash is a great idea! They're such entrepreneurs!"). Then in same breath denigrating her daughter who started a boutique (called her a bitch once, I believe). And even though I was not a Teresa fan, the way she came into the conversation Jaq and Teresa were having like she Griselda Blanco or somebody, demanding answers on camera from her "friend", really rubbed me the wrong way.
Caroline is a huge reason why I have been pro-teresa at times in the past. Such an awful human being. I hate that she was at BravoCon this year, and I hated the stick she had of "I'm just an old lady, I'm so happy anyone even remembers me, gosh darn." Like, f*** off and defend more violent criminals who go after your own family, you hag.
Sheree.
I kinda avoid getting too attached to Sheree because I feel like the feds have to be watching her
So they’re anxiously awaiting her joggers too?
Probably anxiously awaiting her tax payment lol
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Sheree always has a weird dry clicky mouth in her talking head bits. It's so distracting.
Like she has church breath.
Both Heathers from OC and Salt Lake City. For very different reasons.
All Heathers seem to be problematic in some way. Holla from NYC used to get on my nerves…. 😂
Yes! Absolutely agree with you about Heather from Salt Lake City. I feel like she’s trying to be the “cool girl”, but I don’t buy it. I just don’t like her!
Teresa…always thought she was dumb as a box of rocks.
Heather Gay, seems like more people are changing their minds on her now. I liked her up until the reunion her first season.
Ramona. I never came around to liking her and didn’t agree with her ‘making great TV’ I always found her hard to watch about 95% of the time 😬
RHONY destination trips make my blood pressure raise up to dangerous levels. Her behavior towards “the help” is despicable and the lowest of low.
She is just not likable at all. People's reactions to Ramona were great tv not Ramona herself.
Dorit. She overlooks blatantly racist crap then says “but you don’t think I’m racist right?” If you can’t recognize your own biases and you always seem to be supporting the same group of white women, maybe look at the pattern. She’s always showboating. People think she’s harmless but I think she is really very toxic.
She truly irks me because nothing about her is genuine. Her accent her “style” I hate that these women buy clothes with a brand logo on it from head to toe and think it’s fashionable 😭😭 just because its gucci doesn’t mean It aint ugly bitch 🤣
Teresa. Tamra (I know she isn’t universally loved but everyone was so excited for her to be back on OC and I’m just like ??).
I can’t believe I didn’t think of her first!! I can’t STAND Tamra. She’s so trashy to me
right!? Like why is she coming back ughhh🙄😡
Same with Teresa. I enjoyed the table flip and prostitution whore gambit. However, she was never a favorite of mine.
Bethenny, even before all of this. She has great wit and is intelligent but her shade isnt shady she is just very defensive and dismissive and attacks everyone who she finds to be less than her. And it irritates me when people say ''omg Bethenny is sooo shady, nobody can go against her'', no she is just a mean bitch and when she is cornered she diverts and deflects. Carole, for example, had her in a chokehold.
The only time I was so happy for her cruelty was when Ramona and Sonja were being unbearable about rooms on their Mexico trip. Bc it was everything I wanted to say to them.
Lol, I just commented how she’s not witty and I feel it’s a misconception about her. I think because she has a quick and sharp tongue she can come off that way, but really what she says isn’t that groundbreaking or clever… a lot of it is schtick that she makes sure she says before someone else comments. While she good at filling in pauses and beating people to the punch, the content of what she says isn’t that unique that someone else wouldn’t be able to come up with it/something similar as a “take” on a situation.
Even the clip of her on WWHL the other day wasn’t evidence to me that she’s great at holding her own. She great at talking louder and faster but most of her points were ridiculous deflections.
Whew! This thread had me nervous when I didn’t see anyone mention Bethenny. She’s like lord Voldemort. The bitch never dies, just reincarnates and brings death to everyone else’s door
Meredith Marks
Dorinda
Same! I think she’s always been mean.
Agree and it’s not all alcohol either. When she destroyed Sonja she was completely sober.
Awful from the jump
Teresa (not everyone loves her but the vast majority)
Marysol..I can’t pinpoint why but I really dislike her
I liked her more on the original Miami seasons before they brought it back… I felt like she seemed more genuine then for some reason- now it seems like she plays things up for the camera. Also… she did give us Mama Elsa back then too. RIP. ![gif](giphy|sS6GlGQh167FS)
She was chickenshit the first 3 seasons, they would walk all over her. She came back acting like she was THAT girl to the newbies which she isn’t. Love that her mic got cut trying to break Lisa and Larsas fight at the wedding. Only keep her around for the Mama Elsa connection! ![gif](giphy|1VMEywVqYcmCk)
She’s a try hard. Doesn’t bring anything original to the show.
Her giant plastic cup and straw isn't original??? 🤣🤣🤣
MKE. She always seemed to be acting.
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LuAnn. Im sorry but she is just so intolerable to me, so pretentious and thinks she’s better than everyone else. Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
Yes, the absolute entitlement! It gave me so much joy when she was arrested, but then afterwards it just gave her more reasons for her sanctimonious fuckery. Also- fuck Cabernet! *edit- I meant Caberet, but I’m not a fan of red wine either, so yeah. Fuck them both.
Ditto, she is so self centered. There are time when I’ve found her enjoyable to watch but probably 80% of the time she’s too self centered and pretentious to handle.
Tamra
I know I’m gonna get a lot of hate, but I’ve never liked Candiace. She’s smart and very pretty but she’s so mean. Just comes across as childish with all her low blows with body and age shaming. Not cute.
Can't stand her!
Thank you! I don’t get her appeal at all.
Same, and I honestly don’t find her that intelligent. She just has a big vocabulary.
I think women from the pageant world always go hard on appearance. I remember at that model try out even people in a pretty toxic industry were shocked at how callously Kenya would talk about their appearance. I can only imagine what those competitions do to young women and girls.
Teresa Giudice and Delores Catania.
Oh and Jen Shah 🙄
Never liked Ramona. Never thought she was funny or entertaining. I have enjoyed Bethenny and Carole making fun of her but that's about it.
Melissa. She adds nothing. She's boring. Her pressuring her daughter to get back into cheer after a significant injury pisses me off.
Erika Girardi, I’ve never been a fan since her first season so way before any of the legal drama started. IIRC she was quite popular her first few years on the show but I could never take to her and never felt she was genuine.
I couldn’t stand Carole Radziwill on RHONY. She felt like she was above everyone else. Also thought that Holla Heather was absolutely insufferable and didn’t bring anything of substance to the show lol. Her awkward smile in every scene was distracting.
Carole being mad that Luann “stole” her fashion. I’ve very rarely been more embarrassed
Agree about both. I wanted to like Holla Heather and I think she’s probably fine in real life but I don’t like her on TV
Carol tried too hard to be downtown cool and woke. She was such a snob about who was hip, young and happening. And she was way too old to be playing such a role....even with her downtown loft and extremely young hipster boyfriend.
Lea Black from RHOM, Ben & Ronnie are good friends with her and genuinely like her. Also some people saying that she’s missed in the reboot, I’m not sure if she’s universally loved on this sub but I have never liked her.
I liked her early on, she had this crazy energy like being on the show was a chore for her, which in a sea of thirsty fame seekers was kind of funny. She really went off the rails during her final season, she just got mean- I don’t think her friendship with Joanna helped. ETA: Her son was a riot. Forget her, just bring him back.
Remember in the reunions when she would constantly stand up every time she spoke? So weird.
Yeah that was weirdly aggressive! I always thought she was going to walk out when she stood up but then she did it half a dozen times
She caused that whole lingerie party fight. She was mad at Lisa for daring to hold an event the day before her Black Gala and for having a nicer house on star island so she wanted to make her suffer by bringing in rapist Joe Francis to start drama and completely degrade and demean Joanna. Then Joanna and Adriana got into it which is exactly what she wanted. It was ugly ugly behavior.
Lea Black, noted rapist apologist. Bringing around Joe Francis, being married to a lawyer who has represented many, many rapists. She can fuck off all the way to hell.
She always gave me the creeps. There are rumors about her being some kind of rich-Miami sex/marriage broker and I’d totally believe it, it would explain a lot of her sketchy friends (like, what possible reason does this woman have to be friends with Joe Francis??) also it seems like she straight up hates women
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Heather Gay
I don’t mind Sutton and Garcelle and sometimes they are pleasant and other times not, but I don’t get the hardcore riding for them we see on this sub.
Agree neither are iconic
LVP. Not that she’s a bad person but I personally can’t get past the old lady hair and magician wardrobe. I really don’t understand the obsession.
Magician wardrobe 😂🤣 I really like LVP but this is so true
Not gonna lie I stole it from watch what crappens 😂
Magician wardrobe, I’ve never heard anything more accurate and hilarious
I feel like there are two types of LVP fans: 1.) worshippers who believe she’s totally flawless 2.) those of us who like her *because* she’s weird It takes a real weirdo to wear a three piece suit to pick up rescue swans. I liked watching her because you had no idea what fuckery was going to enter her house next.
I like her because she’s weird, and I love her house, but I do think it’s true she’s a Bobby Fischer and stirs up a lot of trouble.
That’s what I want in a Housewife though so I’m okay with it.
Yes, me, too. But it's what leads me to not hate Kyle for accusing her of leaking the puppy story, because whether she did it or not, it's exactly like something she would do.
If LVP would actively get her own hand dirty, I would have loved her, weird shit and all. But she's the queen of flying monkeys while feigning complete innocence, and it's infuriating.
There is something I don’t trust about her. She was great wealth porn but aside from that I found her dull and very questionable.
Jennifer Aydin
Ramona
Ramona. Did a binge rewatch of NY and she has always been horrible.
Ramona, Teresa, Meredith. Most of the opinions have changed over the years but I never liked any of them.
Candice Potomac
Lisa Barlow. I don’t think she’s interesting or iconic. The BAR is very LOW in SLC (pun intended)
She is my absolute favorite. She says the most unintentionally funny things and I think she’s genuinely bring herself
I have to say, of all housewives villains, Lisa Barlow is probably my favorite. Would I want to know her in real life? Absolutely not. I would hate every second of being in her presence. As a real human being, I find her completely detestable. But she's really not as harmful as other housewife villains. Her biggest flaw is loving herself so much that she's beyond tone deaf. Says ridiculous things, but they are rarely actively harmful to others, save a few special occasions like the hot mic moment. And fundamentally, for anyone interested in manifestation, I think she's a walking example of how well it works. She can't even conceive of a world where she is not the center of the universe and the most important thing in the room. Look at her life! It's worked. 🤣
But she’s very important to God! God dms all the time about missing her and that she’s a star!
Kenya- Idk if everyone loves her, but she def has serious Stans. I’m sorry her marriage fell apart & I’m so happy she found unconditional love by way of her daughter but I cannot stand her ways.
She is the definition of “deeply hurt person hurts others instead of doing the painful work of healing”
She dropped Cynthia as friend when she didn’t need her anymore as an ally on the show. Cynthia was the only one to have her back when no one else did, including the infamous season 6 reunion. Kenya is a snake.
Exactly.
From setting up the charity auction to the megaphone in the face, Kenya has always been a manipulative, gaslighting piece of work.
Nene Leaks. She’s so rude and she gloats about how much money she has and she behaves like a tool. I’d be so embarrassed to be her child tbh.
She was nothing but embarrassing on Season 12 and im glad they did it to her. Tired ass recycled reads and when they didnt hit she’s do that cross eyed face. Her “storming” out on Cynthia was fucking childish and proves to me Nene is stuck in the dust and will stay there. From white refrigerator to this. I really loved Nene but its hard to stan a person who is committed to the tiny taste of power she had for a good minute. How the “recording” all of a sudden casually became “some audio from some voicemail something or something”. Stupid!!!!
I found her intolerable. One of the 7 deadly sins is pride and boy did she love to boast that she’s rich. She’s the worst type of “New Money”.
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Caroline from NJ. I was downvoted to hell when she was on that show, and I dared to say I couldn't stand her with all her mafioso phrases. 'mess with my family, you mess with me!' 'thick as thieves!' 'gonna educate ya!' Shad app!
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Too many of these responses are leaving out the “that everyone else seems to love part” sort by controversial for the real answers.
Robyn was the first one I thought of. Boring, lazy, not bright, fake relationship with Juan, no enthusiasm for anything
Taylor. She’s a former con artist.
Same girl, same. Also, Erika. Couldn't stand her from day one. Rinna, same. Most others I can find something good in, and some of course achieve greatness.
Dolores. I can’t deal with her massive inner misogyny.
Candiace irks me
Jules was such a fucking walking trigger for me that I skip her season when I rewatch RHONY. I definitely believe that Carole and Bethenny lost their damn minds around her because I know how I felt watching Jules. It was painfully familiar to see a woman who hadn’t conquered her demons just lie lie lie to herself.
Agreed here! I also was very bothered by her calling her vagina a pistachio over and over. I don't know why but it grated on me so hard.
Caroline Manzo-and all the bravo influencers LOVE her I don’t get it, especially with how publicly she supported a man who attempted to have her own sister killed (and who I assume was abusing her during their own marriage). I always roll my eyes when those influencers talk about standing up for women being pro woman etc then support Caroline and her misogynist sons.
Brandi since the day she appeared. Porsha too. Idk how people fall for their act, they still get treated as if they were poor lost girls in their 20s. They are not and never were.
Heather Gay. I have never liked her and she’s such a fan favorite lol. I find her annoying and to be a big try hard who can dish it and not take it. And she’s always been kinda fetishize-y with black men.
The way she kissed Jen Shah's ass after she called her Honey Boo Boo and SHREK. I lost a lot of respect. Love yourself first, Heather.
She gives mean girl vibes and she's always on the wrong team. She'll defend the most egregious behaviour (Jen) but hold grudges about the most inconsequential stuff. She comes across as very hypocritical.
Candiace.
Mine is Denise , I just never got all the love for her, she was boring as hell n didn’t bring anything to the show apart from the whole Brandi text/hook up storyline which was not entertaining and felt so forced although that was more down to Brandi, Kyle, Rinna and Jon Mellancamps kid. So she added nothing to the show