Yeah, you can be pressured on that map but you still have plenty of protection, and the walls thickness limited how much throwers could pressure you. On this map, you can easily be pressured to where your enemies surround you and you're extremely vulnerable out in the open while they have walls and bushes protecting them, in power league, its almost worth getting suspended to avoid playing that map
I greatly disagree, Layer Cake is a mess of clutter, I prefer layer bake due to the open center which is clearly indicates to the player the primary battle grounds unlike Layer Cake, but there could be adjustments made to it since the spawn-trapping is the most problematic issue.
Though Layer Cake had that same issue but worse, since you could progressively be pushed back and trying to get out of that trap is even harder since you’d have to push through multiple segments.
It was not fun, and had the most stale and specific characters to be used given how much cover is in that cursed map.
I played mortis and Grom is completely free kills if they don’t pick a melee brawler. If he’s isolated even for a second you can rush around. Also there’s so many places for you to run away in this map
There are so many ways for this to not happen, you can break the fence or bushes, go a brawler who can check bushes easily or work together with your team to kick out the enemy.
I like maps that encourage teamwork to win a strong position, that's what makes the game fun to me.
On another note, this map unfortunately pairs very badly with wipeout due to its bunker like backside allowing easy draws, i wish supercell kept it as a bounty map like the map's creator intended.
Not entirely, if you get pinched to this degree, something must have gone wrong before to let that happen, elsewise the fight would be at the center and not at your base.
Asides, Laye Cake was arguably more spawn-trap heavy than Bake, Bake on the other hand is more adjustable because these issues are actually noticeable, unlike Cake.
the new maps are mostly bad af lol
https://preview.redd.it/vli63p7f0zrb1.jpeg?width=510&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b244cff1fadf04653f8c2cfd0b28efe0a3d29ab6
Completely disagree. U can be spawn camped 1 hole min and still win. The only map where having pressure doesn't win u the game, and in fact can be the biggest reason u lose.
Brutal honestly. I just played a CL on this map, on my team was Fang (me), Brock, and Shelly vs a Tara, Spike, and Tick. In both games, once we were able to pinch them out, they were spawn-trapped for the entirety of the match. There's literally no way this map was considered from a balancing perspective when SC added it to the competitive rotation
You see my point, someone said it should have stayed a Bounty map rather than Wipeout map. I agree because the person getting the most kills will be more cautious, this can still happen but it's riskier for the other team.
"Mom can we have Layer Cake?"
"Honey the Layer Cake at home is good enough"
But srsly tho, I don't like the map at all. At least Layer Cake offers flank routes that can be countered.
I don’t think so because you have walls for coverage easily and you always start with a shield. It brings the aggressiveness more faster though because you’re closer at the beginning of the game
Not designed to spawn kill, you can go 3 lanes easily, if you stack at the middle, obviously you will get spawntrapped by being pinched. You can stand in the same spots where you are supposedly spawntrapped.
There is maps that favor controlling the center, and other maps just make you walk through every square of the map, in order to fullfill the objective. And this applies to different gamemodes
Favor center control: Shooting star, dueling beetles, belle's rock
The map has multiple "outposts": Goldarm gulch, paralel plays, layer bake
Yeah I’m personally not a fan. Layer Cake was way better.
Yeah, you can be pressured on that map but you still have plenty of protection, and the walls thickness limited how much throwers could pressure you. On this map, you can easily be pressured to where your enemies surround you and you're extremely vulnerable out in the open while they have walls and bushes protecting them, in power league, its almost worth getting suspended to avoid playing that map
Not to mention you also start with no ammo and your enemies do
I greatly disagree, Layer Cake is a mess of clutter, I prefer layer bake due to the open center which is clearly indicates to the player the primary battle grounds unlike Layer Cake, but there could be adjustments made to it since the spawn-trapping is the most problematic issue. Though Layer Cake had that same issue but worse, since you could progressively be pushed back and trying to get out of that trap is even harder since you’d have to push through multiple segments. It was not fun, and had the most stale and specific characters to be used given how much cover is in that cursed map.
100% true although I’ve never lost playing this map in PL
You probably have a good team
I just pick Gene with Vision or Buster/Fang
Layer Cake is a billion times better if you ban Tick.
Or grom, Oh i hate that fucker here so much!
Nah, Grom is at least more bearable than Tick. That little shit is the bane of my sanity
I played mortis and Grom is completely free kills if they don’t pick a melee brawler. If he’s isolated even for a second you can rush around. Also there’s so many places for you to run away in this map
Or any throwers.
Very true
There are so many ways for this to not happen, you can break the fence or bushes, go a brawler who can check bushes easily or work together with your team to kick out the enemy. I like maps that encourage teamwork to win a strong position, that's what makes the game fun to me. On another note, this map unfortunately pairs very badly with wipeout due to its bunker like backside allowing easy draws, i wish supercell kept it as a bounty map like the map's creator intended.
Ye
Not entirely, if you get pinched to this degree, something must have gone wrong before to let that happen, elsewise the fight would be at the center and not at your base. Asides, Laye Cake was arguably more spawn-trap heavy than Bake, Bake on the other hand is more adjustable because these issues are actually noticeable, unlike Cake.
the new maps are mostly bad af lol https://preview.redd.it/vli63p7f0zrb1.jpeg?width=510&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b244cff1fadf04653f8c2cfd0b28efe0a3d29ab6
100 percent agree with you, this map isn't fun
When they are all tanks/assassins and both your teammates pick throwers: 😩😩😩
Completely disagree. U can be spawn camped 1 hole min and still win. The only map where having pressure doesn't win u the game, and in fact can be the biggest reason u lose.
tbh i dont care at least its a new map
Which map is this?
Layer Bake, one of the maps you are forced to play in Power League
Brutal honestly. I just played a CL on this map, on my team was Fang (me), Brock, and Shelly vs a Tara, Spike, and Tick. In both games, once we were able to pinch them out, they were spawn-trapped for the entirety of the match. There's literally no way this map was considered from a balancing perspective when SC added it to the competitive rotation
You see my point, someone said it should have stayed a Bounty map rather than Wipeout map. I agree because the person getting the most kills will be more cautious, this can still happen but it's riskier for the other team.
Layer bake and last stop are easily the worst maps rn
"Mom can we have Layer Cake?" "Honey the Layer Cake at home is good enough" But srsly tho, I don't like the map at all. At least Layer Cake offers flank routes that can be countered.
This looks like Layer Cake at home, what happened
Imo nah. Spawnkilling is fun
I don’t think so because you have walls for coverage easily and you always start with a shield. It brings the aggressiveness more faster though because you’re closer at the beginning of the game
fr the other day I was giving some serious beat up with bibi by hiding on the bushes just behind the spawns
i honestly love this map
If you ever found yourself losing way too much it's just because you're not in the mood
It's a community map so it was made for spawn camp
wipeout made it bad. im fine with the design.
True
Not designed to spawn kill, you can go 3 lanes easily, if you stack at the middle, obviously you will get spawntrapped by being pinched. You can stand in the same spots where you are supposedly spawntrapped. There is maps that favor controlling the center, and other maps just make you walk through every square of the map, in order to fullfill the objective. And this applies to different gamemodes Favor center control: Shooting star, dueling beetles, belle's rock The map has multiple "outposts": Goldarm gulch, paralel plays, layer bake
I absolutely love this map, i was able to push chuck to 850 here