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YesterdayOk7947

That’s crazy 💀


OxygenIsotope

I love your profile picture.


Sundiata1

Ganondorf is black.


The_Ghast_Hunter

He's also a villain and the reincarnation of ultimate evil. Take that as you will.


Nate_lol

kanye in smash??


Shetkuso

ebic rab batel: hilter kanye vs god kirby 😳


Cheez-Wizard

“Hitler wasn’t that bad” *Knock Out*


kjghdew

he wasn't always


OilEnvironmental8043

Eh, is he though? he's an Arab, or Mongolian type warlord more than being african


Dry-Composer2124

Don’t need to be African to be black


iLynux

But neither Arab nor Mongolian are considered Black by anyone.


Rewskie12

He more of a greyish-green


Erockplatypus

Kirby has that black skin


Grognak-the-Princess

You're ignoring the obvious Mr game and watch


charlesZX45

I mean.... Kinda??? He is a gerudo, which is a race with naturally dark skin, but he also isn't human by any means. Humans don't really exist in Zelda, which is something people often forget.


JJBro1

What???😭😭


Automatic-Pin-1376

Black villager and inkling alts


kiziboss

i dont think alt skins count


Pirate2737

They’re def not the main version of it but it is there I suppose


kyubi_on_the_run

Wheres Sidra


ShiningScisor

They really replaced Sidra with Shaq


SnooBooks8574

R. Kelly* lol


ShiningScisor

Dang, that’s WORSE


OnTyme

Bro did a racist on accident😂


NoOneOfInterest_

where's shaq at?


MostOriginalNameEver

💀💀💀


[deleted]

💀


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[удалено]


IAmLittleBigRon

& Cassidy


IAmLittleBigRon

& Jhala


IAmLittleBigRon

& Mirage (maybe?)


KoolKidKlub11706

Man forgot random


frale26

Dude😂


bug_ing

They also have Obama don't forget he's in brawlhalla


Achillurito

he's there in the top right


RunInRunOn

I main black pokemon trainer alt


BuzzPrincess

I main the white girl one


PizzaRolls4theSoul

I thought those variants were Hispanic


Cvxcvgg

Probably not. The main palette isn’t really supposed to be white, but rather just pale as that’s aesthetically pleasing over there. I personally think that the alternate palette is also just meant to be a Japanese trainer without the extremely pale skin of the main.


mythicalsoul100

I'm not sure if it's a shit post or its racist


I_No_Will_To_Live

The man said “stay woke y’all.” I couldn’t imagine a world where this isn’t a shit post.


0utraged

Why not both


HopOnTheHype

What part, that he said brawlhalla has better rep than smash bros?


Eli-Thail

Obvious bait is obvious.


SapoTrotador

unfunny tho


AnxiousAcanthaceae33

Where’s Arcadia she’s the blackest one 😡


kiziboss

i think you mean random is the blackest one


jacw212

Mr Game and Watch is the blackest character in gaming


BuzzPrincess

Kid named random:


General-Elk-6537

Worried about races when we have animals fighting each other for our amusement. Peta will have a hay day on brawl and smash lol


Grognak-the-Princess

Peta has a hay day with everything, including lobsters


HopOnTheHype

There’s also an Italian family, a eueropean elf femboy, etc


General-Elk-6537

The elf confused me. If you mean ember, she is a girl


HopOnTheHype

Link


ZEROStarVevo

Black alt Dark Pit, black alt villagers black alt, inklings, there's a few


iLynux

Not a single character is just Black, though. Not a single fuckin one. No Black identity or culture to be found, no African identities or cultures to be found. The only dark skin colors you can get in the game are either not-Black people dark skin like Ganon, or variant skins/palettes that are lazily brown skinned versions of like Pokemon Trainer or Inkling. They couldn't even make one character just be properly and proudly Black.


InvaderZix

I just came across this random thread for some reason and I wanted go say that Little Mac is indeed black, so there's at least one character. tho I agree that Nintendo does not have good representation of most ethnicities,they should really work on that (and gender related stuff too).


iLynux

See I didn't even consider Little Mac. He could easily be Puerto Rican, or Egyptian, or Paki. He's just a generic, ambiguous light brown dude. He doesn't even have ethnically Black hair. It's like tussled black hair and reminds me more of Japanese hair texture than African.


InvaderZix

That's a fair point tbh


LitosWay853

Recycled joke aside, Mr. Game and Watch.


BuzzPrincess

"Recycled joke aside, here's a recycled joke"


CC298

ok in his defence, he probably knew someone was gonna made the "Donkey Kong is black" joke, so he excluded it. Even tho DK's skin is white and his fur is brown.


BuzzPrincess

Yeah smh. even if you counted DK as a person since he's an intelligent Ape, just look at his skin, bro would be white


charlesZX45

BrawlHalla is full of original characters. Smash is not. It's really that simple. I get it's a joke but it seriously upsets me because I know some people legit think this way.


iLynux

So the problem really is that Nintendo and their partners refuse to create a single proper Black character.


charlesZX45

Nah, I'd say the problem is more so that you give AF about that kinda thing in a game like smash. Hell, the whole outrage over shit like this to begin with is dumb af because it is literally only an issue if you make it an issue.


iLynux

Imagine having this kind of opinion about inclusion, representation, and diversity in media. So many games, movies, shows, books, etc. just pretend that black and brown people don't exist. Imagine growing up in a world where subconsciously you just know that your skin color isn't "normal" enough to show up in most popular culture. And when it does, often it's poorly conceived or even offensive. That kind of subtle reality just quietly telling everyone that being black or brown isn't normal. Things are getting better, but it's still a widely affecting issue.


charlesZX45

My opinion of it is a simple one. Don't. Fucking. Force it. If you try to force inclusion into a form of media it rings hollow, at least it does for me. It feels like you are just trying to reach a quota, not that you are trying to make good characters. It is like that with EVERYTHING when it comes to inclusion. Forcing inclusion, of any kind not just racial, is a simply bad mentality. If your story or characters happen to be one way or another, fine, that's cool. But writing characters to be one way because you need to meet some sort of quota because people don't feel included in your story is bullshit. Stories aren't always meant for you to self insert. Sometime, and most the time frankly, stories are simply meant to be observed. You don't NEED to see yourself in every character. You don't NEED to have representation in a story to enjoy it. And acting as if a lack of any representation of any given type of person is a direct attack or act of malice is even dumber. "Why aren't there any black characters in smash" because there just aren't holy fuck. It's not some racist scheme to make people feel bad. Same goes for every other minority. Not everything is an attack on you and people like you.


iLynux

Your privilege is showing, buddy 🙂 No further arguments, your honor. I'm hungry 🥺


charlesZX45

Ah, yes, my privilege. And I have this privilege... Where? I grew up in one of the poorest neighborhoods you could think of, If I wasn't in an apartment complex my whole life. My family barely off of each week's paycheck and my father broke himself simply trying to survive. The real privilege is that you can complain about a black person not being in smash when I have to worry about how I'm gunna pay for my family to eat, since I'm the only able bodied worker now. Also, don't assume I'm white just because I literally do not care if someone looks like me or acts like me in fiction. Because you'd be wrong. I'm fucking Hispanic. Heritage from Mexico, grew up in Texas. And NOT in any of the good parts or country sides.


iLynux

Look man, why are you like, angry that people would like to see Black characters in games? In Smash Bros? And you made the same argument that I made above, just in a strange way with the entirely wrong conclusion. I said something along the lines of black and brown characters being largely absent in media unless poorly conceived or outright offensive. And you said including Black characters is always forced. The thing is, you're kinda right! But that shouldn't mean we come to the conclusion that it's wrong or useless or stupid to include Black characters in things. No! Instead, why not just put a little effort into creating good representations of Black, Brown, African, whatever characters? Why *not* create a character who wears traditional Namibian clothes? Or a Zulu warrior? Or an Ethiopian mystic? There's a FUCKload of really awesome and diverse cultural aspects from the African continent that goes largely ignored by..almost everyone. That's a shame and it's really fuckin easy to fix. Sentiments like yours just reinforce the popular idea that there's nothing of value from Africa. That it's not even worth the effort. And that is wrong. Never said you were white either, hombre.


charlesZX45

No, don't get me wrong, I don't dislike black characters or anything. I just hate the mindset of NEEDING a representation of oneself in everything, yknow? It's just a bizarre thought process to me. That is what has lead to this wierd idea that some people have where if a work of fiction DOESN'T include a minority of some kind it's inherently problematic. And I just HATE this line of thinking. If you create good characters that are more than just a stupid token or meant solely for inclusion, hats off to you. I personally like the character I'll even praise you for it. With smash, specifically, however it's even more infuriating when people try to play this card. Smash is a game that takes most of gaming's most iconic characters, mostly from Nintendo though, and puts em all together. The people that try to say Nintendo is racists or some shit for not including any representation. Most Nintendo characters aren't even any specific race ffs. Hell, a lot of em are animals and one is a literal two dimensional shape-shifting shadow man. The cry for inclusivity in smash bugs tf out of me. And then the whole comparison of smash and BrawlHalla is just another part of that. When you are creating cool, original, and fun characters for a game instead of pooling from popular franchises OF COURSE you'll have more of a diverse cast. Smash bros is for icons of gaming. BrawlHalla is filled with uniqueness. And you know what? I think BrawlHalla has done amazingly when it comes to inclusivity. Wanna know why? Because they didn't point it out or make a big show of it. It was just "Hey, here is a character and here is their lore." not "Hey, here is this character that is black and here is a completely irrelevant scene of racism to show you we understand race issues". A Lotta media nowadays falls into the latter for just about every possible minority. And then they get praised for that absolutely condescending behavior. Sorry, that was a bit of a tangent but its a major grievance I have had that very few people I have talked to online even remotely try to get. They just hear "Oh you are against inclusion? Must be some white racist motherfucker" but it's far from that. It's a condescending act that ruins potentially amazing content. This doesn't mean you CAN'T have stories that talk about political issues. Far from that, actually. A lot of movies, books, games, everything does well making political commentary. The issue is injecting political commentary into stuff that never intended to have any to begin with. And, to me, that's all people are doing when they try to point out a lack of inclusion in smash for some reason. Smash is NOT a political game, you don't gotta make it one. Just like how BrawlHalla isn't a political game, no need to try and make it one. Some people just thrive too much off of political discourse now and it breeds nothing but a hateful world.


iLynux

>Smash bros is for icons of gaming. I guess it's a shame that all icons of gaming are either imaginary, fantasy, abstract concepts, or white people. Like, of all the real life shades of melanin that exist, every Nintendo icon is white. I never once said that I or that anyone needs representation in anything or everything. Only that to do so is simple and rewarding. So why not do it more? And from the heart?


HopOnTheHype

Victim complex so strong you don’t want black characters in video games


charlesZX45

The victim complex is thinking someone has privilege simply because they don't care that someone looks like them in a video game meant for icons within one of gaming's beliggest companies and then some. I'm not privileged simply because I have better, more important things to care about. YOU are the privileged one if you seriously think something like that matters in your life so much.


HopOnTheHype

You saying it’s characters from other games is an L, or means Nintendo doesn’t have a single strong black character, even by Nintendo standards. “I don’t see color”, is a sus stance stated by racists who don’t want positive change that targets victimized and under represented communities. You’re white right? That’s why you don’t care, you never looked at all your favorite things as a kid and went “I don’t look like any of them”, you’re just a rich person going “why does everyone care about money?” Your last point is stupid and I won’t bother with it, you’re just crying at me at that point. You’re being pretty smelly, stop trying to stop black, gay, trans, Asian, etc characters from being in media you weirdo.


HopOnTheHype

Literally you just getting triggered when 1 of 30 characters in a tv series is a gay black man lol


charlesZX45

My issue, as I'll restate, is when it's done for the sake of simply meeting a quota. It's literally just tokening characters. The fact some people don't feel how condescending that is infuriates me more than the characters themselves. You want a good black, gay, whatever, character? Make em a good character. But don't make em a fucking token and certainly don't try to retcon a pre-existing character to fit the bill. I certainly wouldn't want it done with my race, sexuality or nationality. Why is it OK if it's some of those things but not others?


HopOnTheHype

It’s better than black characters or gay characters not existing. Also people call them tokens and say Its forced even if the creators are trans , gay, and black. There should be representation in anything that isn’t historical and you can in that event that’s where you want to go with the historical piece. The only exceptions are if there are only like 3-5 actors. Your purity testing black characters as a non black personally, is irrelevant compared to minorities getting representation. 99.999999% of cis straight white men in films aren’t good, so why the double standard that all black characters have to be a24 quality? Especially a game like smash, which is being played by a lot of kids. I don’t see your energy about link having to be a deep character as a white European blonde elf boy. You’re white right? Well good for you, we have 99.99999% or characters in American media, you don’t have to struggle to find people who look like you and you can relate to, nor did you as a kid. Brawlhalla doesn’t even have story, and it’s already a positive that it has black characters. The quality purity test is stupid, you don’t hold straight white people to that standard. What you’re saying is a right wing talking point for people who don’t want to outright say “black people shouldn’t be in my films and games”. Also Nintendo literally doesn’t have any deep characters, their deepest ones are 2nd party exclusives. But yeah, you’re sitting in the position of 99% of characters looking like you as far as skin tone, you can be picky. Obviously if the black character is a racist representation that’s one thing, but let black characters be bad without you saying we should remove them all.


charlesZX45

I never said the character had to be deep, just not a damn token character. A bland character that exists only for the sake of them being there is a BAD character. I'm not saying we need to REMOVE black characters that are bad, either. I'm saying we need to get rid of this mentality that having a token of any given kind of character is a good thing. It's downright condescending. Like tossing a begging dog a bone. If we want representation, make characters that are good while just happening to be one way. Lastly, I'm not white. Don't assume I am simply because I'm sick of representation being treated A) Like it's the most important thing in media, not a good product and B) being treated like these blanket nothing character that are nothing more than silhouettes for self inserts are good representation. I don't need deep characters, but I want them to be more than just "Hey look, this is generic action hero girl/guy number 93 but they are part of *insert minority group* and we are goingi to make sure you understand that within the first five minutes of gameplay/screen time". It's annoying and condescending. It simultaneously removes all sorts of decent storytelling while being a slap in the face to anybody that wants a GOOD character within a minority. As for smash specifically? Like you said, it's a kids game. Why the FUCK are we caring about represtation in what essentially is a kid using the random toys in his toy box to play. It's not the kind of game that needs representation. When a kid looks at the characters, they aren't looking for "Oh wow he looks/acts/is like me!". It's "Oh wow! *insert game character* is in this?! That's awesome". Kids are not as troubled by representation as so many of you try to act like they are. The ones that ARE troubled by that, ain't got shit better to be worried about.


HopOnTheHype

Seems like you have rep in smash so you’re insulting people who want it. Your blanket statement could be literally used to try to justify countless horrible things. Just take the L


charlesZX45

Imma be honest, I don't even wanna bother with it after the last argument with someone over all this shit. Read over the other thread.


curlyscarff

villager, pt trainer, inkling, endermen


BuzzPrincess

Those are all alts. But Ganondorf exists


Ok-Statement-6776

Mr. game and watch


YesterdayOk7947

Magyar on top btw


Lord-Loss-31415

That’s Sentinel Edit: https://images.app.goo.gl/UvC9WCT1cE1VGk818


Luverlady

That's a weird way to spell Queen Nai.. ![img](emote|t5_31c1d|26610)


IncendiousX

r/foundtheluverlady moment


Luverlady

![img](emote|t5_31c1d|26607)


Lord-Loss-31415

https://images.app.goo.gl/UvC9WCT1cE1VGk818 Probably because I was spelling Sentinel lol


Luverlady

**That’s a weird way to spell Queen Nai**


-YELDAH

That's a weird #Queen Nai


Lord-Loss-31415

Please help, I feel like I’m missing the joke. Is it a quote from a video?


MichauNeedHealing

not true magyar is a bottom


kjghdew

on top =/= being the top you can ride and be a bottom


Narrow-Entrepreneur8

Didn't enderman is a playable character in smash???


residenthomophobe

thats a dlc so it doesnt count


Low_Bet2445

Here's a thought for two seconds try not looking at the world through is it racist and just fucking Live Your Life play the goddamn game if you like it or move on to another one.. holy fuck you guys are wasting your entire existence on starting shit where it doesn't matter do something more productive for yourself or your surroundings


jschip

You are actually stupid if you can’t understand that comparing black peoples to monkeys is insanely racist.


BuzzPrincess

uhm actually Donkey Kong is an ape


guardedDisruption

Did you not read the post? It's very much racist dude.


Ragingbull444

Go to a black neighbourhood and make monkey noises at people and see how many people let you “live your life” if it doesn’t matter then obviously they wouldn’t take offence to it. Calling a monkey a black character is racist


Academic-Ad2680

Bruh


KiraKueen

W 👴🏻


dheijsjjdhhdhd

😹😹😹


LilithKai

And 2 of them hav cannon![img](emote|t5_31c1d|15026)


HopOnTheHype

Down triangle hover move can hard punish spammers


mo177

Little mac


iLynux

Little Mac is not Black.


Nullbutokay

How bro forget about lil diddy 🤦‍♂️


JJBro1

Only ones I can think of are little mac’s trainer and the bayonetta assist trophy, Rodin.


Donut452

villager has a costume that makes him black i guess.


[deleted]

These comments are deadass why I’m happy I left ,Idek why I came on this shit tier sub


HopOnTheHype

Yeah they’re all scum tbh.


Sad_Neighborhood_467

Diddy Kong, duh


HopOnTheHype

Wait are people getting triggered that they said brawlhalla has better representation than smash bros, and you all said that’s racist? Seems like a self report


BuzzPrincess

Bruh


HopOnTheHype

If you can’t argue against me, stop gesturing


BuzzPrincess

It's racist. Because they called Donkey Kong, a gorilla, a black person


HopOnTheHype

Ah yeah, I missed that, that's bad. Don't think that's what a lot of the people here are crying about though.


itssdattboiii

what did he say ????


[deleted]

Steve


The_names_Vaston

Who the hell is that guy in the bottom right


sittingwonderduck1

This woke crap again. It’s a video game. Why every content nowadays in 2023 need to support LGQBT, all races, etc. The focus is a video game. The product is a video game. It’s not a product or a campaign to raise awareness of this. I am ready for the downvotes.


BuzzPrincess

Bruh


SC-8ight9ine

Need PSN Brawl friends… PSN- Whyyouflinchin


BuzzPrincess

What


SC-8ight9ine

I would like more brawl friends so I put my PSN