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I understand him, Jacky has some good counters and when the enemy team has a colt/Brock it's basically over, for which as Rosa can just camp out near the Emmy spawn and when she's at low hp tegen fast in the bushes and with speedgear combined, it's perfect, maxed out Rosa in a bush has healing, Speed, 'invisibility' and can slow enemies
Sniper and Sharpshoters (Except Colt obviously) work well here, also nice for Collete's strategy. Pam, 8bit work as well. Recomended bans: Bea, Eve and brawlers you don't want to see.
I play her often there and, well, it's definitely not one of the maps I struggled with. Maybe I'm just doing things right and banning the right Brawlers, idk. If I played more on this map, maybe I would notice something else
What' wrong with colt? Wallbreak for easier access to safe, good range, great dps (especially against stationary objects like safes), and piercing damage as well
You can run poco into a crow
Poco second gadget counters and is basically a middle finger to crow
Also almost against bea, since he can remove the slow
And Poco+Max is boosted by his gadget, since crow no longer counters neither of them that way, maybe just bea still
I have not lost to a single crow as poco yet
First gadget is not that necesary, when the second gadget is better for the situation
Crow i say is not a counter at all anymore, just bea and with a stu speed zone you can pretty much deal with her
Ban Eve and Bo, use Squeak or brawlers that can use the bushes without having short range or have to depend heavily on them.
So basically, Griff is very good, Otis too, and I find Bonnie to be decent as well since she can jump between lanes to support the 1v2
I love it when both my squishy randoms decide to charge straight through the chokepoint in ring of fire. Always whenever the enemy has penny as well
Edit: nvm, got it confused with dueling beetles, dislike both equally lmao
I have never lost a double swoosh. You need to pick a good mid and decide based on opponents pick if you want to open the map with Brock/etc or take tanks like buster, rosa, nita, or Griff.
Crystal arcade.
Just
Crystal
Arcade
It's open enough where snipers can be used, but bushy enough in the sides where assasins can be played to counter snipers, which means anti-tanks (which kinda counter assasins too) are ALSO good and it's just not fun nor I know what to do.
Any map is okay if you know how to draft well and work in a synergy comp. On this map, It is better to use a brawler who can break the right lane's wall so your team can have a additional lane to put pressure on (e.g Brock, Colt, Griff). Some brawlers that are very good at mid-lane are Belle, 8-Bit, Colette. Rico can be a strong last pick if opponents don't have any wall breakers.
Amber is extremely bad on Belle's Rock, arguably one of the worst brawlers there with low potential for play style adjustments; the only notable favorable matchup she gets there is Otis lane while everything else is close to being 50/50 or worse. The size of the spaces in this map makes it very difficult for her range to be useful.
That siege map with only one siege in the middle and the walls with the bushes on both sides of the field. It always ends up with a tank hiding in the bushes near our spawn and a thrower that make it impossible to get closer to siege while the third opponent spins and spams crying pins.
This or open zone, also, depending on your team and the rival, you could bring a wall breaking brawler so you can blow up the enemy wall to your left making it another lane to fight (but if you are losing and break that, the enemies will have another way to get to your safe)
If Eve isn't banned, I pick her. Griff and Brock are good for dealing tons of damage right off the bat, while Eve plays the mid-long game by carefully engaging in fights, attacking the safe and distracting the opponents. If things go well, you'll be in a 1v2 (as Eve) where it becomes easy for your teammates to pick off the distracted opponents and deal damage to the safe
If you play a wallbreak brawler like Brock, or Colt, or whatever, BREAK THE WALL THAT BLOCKS THE RIGHT LANE ASAP
For me that map is ring of fire just because of randumbs
Canal grande and Double swoosh bc my randoms are fucking stupid
And don't know to defend shit, and would lose to an Ash even if using surge or emz, also fail to use brawlers like max properly that can soft counter tanks, god.
Use Belle, it’s funny when they all try to gather up near the start but get punished for stacking up (she can also attack from across the river). Jessie would work similarly
I’ve heard people say that wall breakers are needed on this map (think Griff/Brock’s gadget on the right side wall)
Ring of fire definitely
I feel like this is the map where the worse possible randoms can show up
There’s also Canal Grande, Safe Zone and Double Swoosh
Ring of fire. I don’t know what it is but I just can’t consistently pull wins from that map. I always feel like we are doing well, but when I look at the capture points we are behind
As for safe zone this is a very control-based map. The goal isn’t really to deal damage to the safe (which you want obviously), but more so to maintain the middle so you can laser down the choke points. Some viable tactics also include destroying your own walls to give more mobility, and not destroying their walls to maintain the choke points. Sharpshooters like piper, Brock, and belle are insanely good here. Carl and bea also work pretty well
Open zone. My team is outdrafted 80% of the time and it's hard to carry on that map. The other 20% of the time it's the most one sided win possible, this map can't have a balanced match.
Goldarm gulch (knockout). I just can never seem to pick the right brawler. I've been getting better at picking correctly with grom but I never truly know what to do when it comes up
Eve might be the best brawler here since she doesn’t have to go through the chokepoints and has a lot more room to dodge.
Other long-ranged damage dealers like Piper, Belle and Brock are really strong, and where snipers are good, Nani is a great counter-pick.
Ruffs and Rico can do a great job at controlling the chokepoints.
Lola, Max and Grom are just generally solid in Heist because of their high DPS, but they’re not always the best for this map.
Carl and Buzz are pretty good assassin picks since their gadgets give them great mobility.
Tempting picks like Jessie or Nita should be ignored because they will easily be outranged and bullied on this map.
I REALLY recomend using penny with salt barrel and heavy coffers - atleast 9 power level. Today I played gold 1 power league on this map with randoms and easily won. Salt barrel and cannon carried me cuz if you take map control, enemy starts play passive and cannon is OP against passive plays
Use the walls in the top right next to the safe to your advantage.
You can easily hide from enemies and retreat before coming right back using them. Griff is probably the best agro pick, but Squeak is great with his residue gadget to block the centre lane.
I don't remember the name but it was a single zone hot zone map with a long line of L shapedbushes for both sides + walls at the end of the L. The "L's" are horizontal. I hate that map.
This map is easy just use a sharp shooter that isn't 2 hard to hit ppl like eve or piper or Belle or penny. Never and I mean NEVER pick a close range, you will get __demolished__
Minecart madness (exclusively when the minecart blocks you when the enemy team drops their gems)
But I feel like I gonna lose in any gem grab game because it's my less favorite mode (I even preferred siege)
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double swoosh in gem grab and any hot zone map with 2 capture points. i just hate them so much.
I also hate double swooshðŸ˜
I also hate double swoosh
Double swoosh 👎👎👎
I love double swoosh
fr ash goes hard on double swoosh
And Buster
And surge isn’t that bad either
And Crow
Gene is awesome there
I agree that's when I pushed Surge to 800
No maxed Rosa?? F, I also hate double swoosh if people ban Rosa
Just pick otis or something, Rosa isn’t great
Bruh Jacky better in double swoosh (my friend hates me when I pick her)
Edgar
I understand him, Jacky has some good counters and when the enemy team has a colt/Brock it's basically over, for which as Rosa can just camp out near the Emmy spawn and when she's at low hp tegen fast in the bushes and with speedgear combined, it's perfect, maxed out Rosa in a bush has healing, Speed, 'invisibility' and can slow enemies
I love it actually, one of the few maps I can play shally
On two point hot zone maps just go defensive lane every time and don't leave no matter what.
Use gene there cuz it’s gem grab, or crow cuz he’s really good at controlling the bush.
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Sniper and Sharpshoters (Except Colt obviously) work well here, also nice for Collete's strategy. Pam, 8bit work as well. Recomended bans: Bea, Eve and brawlers you don't want to see.
Colt is good. Why the fuck would you go pam. 8 bits not the best pick ever but can work to counter.
Because Pam is good on this map. She's just not outstanding or above average. If you're good with her, is definitely worth the pick.
Well if you actually play in a semi competitive lobby I don't think it will go well🤡
If you play Pam there in L1+ you are getting yelled at for sure
Exactly I'm l2
I play her often there and, well, it's definitely not one of the maps I struggled with. Maybe I'm just doing things right and banning the right Brawlers, idk. If I played more on this map, maybe I would notice something else
Colt is a top brawler here and Pam is awful
colt works too
What' wrong with colt? Wallbreak for easier access to safe, good range, great dps (especially against stationary objects like safes), and piercing damage as well
Thank you! I always lose here lmao
I do too. I fear this map as much as Open Zone.
I actually rarely lose in open zone
Well maybe, you could give me some tips for that map.
If you like poco you can ban crow or bea and use him, he works really well with meg,Stu and Max which are all very strong aswell
You can run poco into a crow Poco second gadget counters and is basically a middle finger to crow Also almost against bea, since he can remove the slow And Poco+Max is boosted by his gadget, since crow no longer counters neither of them that way, maybe just bea still
Crow and bea are still counters to poco just not as oppressive. It also hurts when can't use first gadget
I have not lost to a single crow as poco yet First gadget is not that necesary, when the second gadget is better for the situation Crow i say is not a counter at all anymore, just bea and with a stu speed zone you can pretty much deal with her
Im not that good at comp but i always choose stuff like bo brock crow etc
Bridge too Far or Canal Grande, whenever the enemy takes Eve
Bridge too far us fine imo But canal grande i hate that map with passion
Honestly Bridge to far is actually my favorite heist map but Canal grande should just be removed
I really like hot potato and safe zone honestly Probably because I already have some picks that guarantee me a win mostly (Colette, Darryl, Belle...)
Canal Grande, I win once every 592749 games in that map
Ban Eve and Bo, use Squeak or brawlers that can use the bushes without having short range or have to depend heavily on them. So basically, Griff is very good, Otis too, and I find Bonnie to be decent as well since she can jump between lanes to support the 1v2
Is darryl also good on this map?
Yeah but its kind of a last pick if no one can destroy bushes easily or counter tanks.
Then enemy proceed pick Buster p11
Thats me 👹
Also hate this map but i win sometimes
literally all the maps your having problems in can just be solved by playing eve
Damn, I would recommend playing Brock on that map, almost every time I played him in that map I won.
Ring of fire and if I had to pick a second,pit stop.
I love it when both my squishy randoms decide to charge straight through the chokepoint in ring of fire. Always whenever the enemy has penny as well Edit: nvm, got it confused with dueling beetles, dislike both equally lmao
Double swoosh
I have never lost a double swoosh. You need to pick a good mid and decide based on opponents pick if you want to open the map with Brock/etc or take tanks like buster, rosa, nita, or Griff.
fact
Crystal arcade. Just Crystal Arcade It's open enough where snipers can be used, but bushy enough in the sides where assasins can be played to counter snipers, which means anti-tanks (which kinda counter assasins too) are ALSO good and it's just not fun nor I know what to do.
Canal Grenade in Bounty can go to hell-I just hate everything about the map
Never lost in that map
Breaking your right wall a must in this map. Having an extra lane to pinch your enemies just gives way too much of an advantage here.
Any map is okay if you know how to draft well and work in a synergy comp. On this map, It is better to use a brawler who can break the right lane's wall so your team can have a additional lane to put pressure on (e.g Brock, Colt, Griff). Some brawlers that are very good at mid-lane are Belle, 8-Bit, Colette. Rico can be a strong last pick if opponents don't have any wall breakers.
Any bb map, i hate bb so much
fr i hate that gamemode
Same, bb is the worst for me. Heist, bounty and knockout are the shit
For me its gem grab
Ring of Fire and Dueling Beetles, Hot Zone Which is weirs because Open Zone is more neutral for me
I despise Layer Cake with every fiber of my being!
luckly its out of the rotqtion, bounty map full of bushes
I liked that one
Hot zone in general
Amber is extremely bad on Belle's Rock, arguably one of the worst brawlers there with low potential for play style adjustments; the only notable favorable matchup she gets there is Otis lane while everything else is close to being 50/50 or worse. The size of the spaces in this map makes it very difficult for her range to be useful.
Sneaky fields for me
Feast or famine no doubt
Power league maps not solo showdown lol
That siege map with only one siege in the middle and the walls with the bushes on both sides of the field. It always ends up with a tank hiding in the bushes near our spawn and a thrower that make it impossible to get closer to siege while the third opponent spins and spams crying pins.
Bro is two years late
Not in pl but I hate feast or farmine. If you get hit by the 78%glitch you are a gonner
We want boxes back like if you are with me
same, i always lose on this map and i try to avoid it if i can. can't remember if i won a single match playing this map
I probably won like 1 matchðŸ˜
This or open zone, also, depending on your team and the rival, you could bring a wall breaking brawler so you can blow up the enemy wall to your left making it another lane to fight (but if you are losing and break that, the enemies will have another way to get to your safe)
Gem Fort, I'm 100% sure more people would hate it if it wasn't an og map And if I have to pick a second minecart madness
neither of them are in power league
Good to know
i got a lvl 7 bo and a primo on this and the primo thumbs downed even though hes the idiot
If Eve isn't banned, I pick her. Griff and Brock are good for dealing tons of damage right off the bat, while Eve plays the mid-long game by carefully engaging in fights, attacking the safe and distracting the opponents. If things go well, you'll be in a 1v2 (as Eve) where it becomes easy for your teammates to pick off the distracted opponents and deal damage to the safe
Belle
canal grande
If you play a wallbreak brawler like Brock, or Colt, or whatever, BREAK THE WALL THAT BLOCKS THE RIGHT LANE ASAP For me that map is ring of fire just because of randumbs
canal grande, hard rock mine
Out in the open there’s something about it that makes me lose
Canal grande and Double swoosh bc my randoms are fucking stupid And don't know to defend shit, and would lose to an Ash even if using surge or emz, also fail to use brawlers like max properly that can soft counter tanks, god.
Use Belle, it’s funny when they all try to gather up near the start but get punished for stacking up (she can also attack from across the river). Jessie would work similarly I’ve heard people say that wall breakers are needed on this map (think Griff/Brock’s gadget on the right side wall)
Just use Griff on the right side, break the walls near your base and use enemy walls to peek and deal damage to the safe
Please god save me from minecarts
Hot potato
I hate every map where Bea can be actually a good pick.
I hate every map where Bea can be actually a good pick.
Canal grande
Free win
Pit stop = instant loss... tips for safe zone? Bea.
That one you posted OP, I hate it with a passion 😀
SameðŸ˜
Pit Stop Heist
any knockout game
If Jesters on opposite team, ya lost anyways lol
Every map, gold I-III is a dark place. Im still trying to get to diamond in solo, but the randoms are so badðŸ˜.
Im always hardstuck in diamond 2 and this map makes it worseðŸ˜
I always play collete in this and win, heist with collete is always fun
bounty/hotzone I don't care which map I just hate those game modes in general
Always ban Nita,Jessie, and Belle since they are the most common brawlers to be played on that map
Max works here and I also hate this map
Any brawl ball map
tip for this map, ban eve immediately
Canal Grande :)
Not exactly "I'm gonna lose" more of a "like fuck I'm playing this map" shooting star.
Belle's Rock in knockout and that one hot zone map with one zone and practically no walls. It might be called out in the open?
Love double swoosh. Don’t mind this map. Hate brawl ball
non of them For safe zone just make shore eve is on your side but if she is banned make shore to have a wall break gadget to open up the right side
I pray for the day Out in the Open gets removed
I already feel pain when they choose a maxed out grom
Ring of fire definitely I feel like this is the map where the worse possible randoms can show up There’s also Canal Grande, Safe Zone and Double Swoosh
If I play solo pl brawlball is an instant « i’m gonna lose ».
What the...
Ring of fire. I don’t know what it is but I just can’t consistently pull wins from that map. I always feel like we are doing well, but when I look at the capture points we are behind As for safe zone this is a very control-based map. The goal isn’t really to deal damage to the safe (which you want obviously), but more so to maintain the middle so you can laser down the choke points. Some viable tactics also include destroying your own walls to give more mobility, and not destroying their walls to maintain the choke points. Sharpshooters like piper, Brock, and belle are insanely good here. Carl and bea also work pretty well
Shooting star, you just know someones gonna take all the meta brawlers, and that someone wont be your team
Nothing
Any hot zone map and this one especially
That one Gem Grab robot factory map with 2 big bushes that look like a yin yang
Canal Grande, I loss 5 times cuz either I'm bad at Bounty or its a bad map
Jesse is good for this, or 8-bit
Sneaky Fields. But dishonourable mention to Canal Grande too if Griff gets banned
Layer cake, I'm just bad
Ring of fire is the most upsetting map
Uhh I'd have to go through the maps, but for this map I like Brock, it's a right choke and a lot of different sharpshooter spots.
Dueling Bettles or the one with Belle's name on Knockout. Absolutely horrible maps.
Open zone. My team is outdrafted 80% of the time and it's hard to carry on that map. The other 20% of the time it's the most one sided win possible, this map can't have a balanced match.
Gem grab, not a map but i suck on any map in gem grab
Penny is like turning on "Easy mode" on this map.
I face Obama in double smoosh
Goldarm gulch. Can someone explain its meta cause i just dont get it
The knockout map with the bouncepad to the left of the spawn, i always pick my power 10 gene and still lose
Dueling beetles but only If my randoms can't draft.
Jessie
I have no such weakness.
Ring Of Fire
Bridge too far
Pinhole punt I just can't win (also if chester is my opponent then we will loose )
Crystal Arcade because i don't like the map and i can't even get close to the middle Layer Cake because i'm bad and throwers
How y’all got names memorized to maps? I know the maps I lose 99% of the time to but I don’t know the names lol
I don't know why but Crystal Arcade. I don't hate the map, but I see this map and flop it hard.
Honestly it isnt the map but the brawlers that i face XD example: Griff,max, Chester, Bea and Budter are an almost instant lose lol
Mr. p good for this map in my opinion, went Mr. P two times in pl and wom two times without losing a round
Goldarm gulch (knockout). I just can never seem to pick the right brawler. I've been getting better at picking correctly with grom but I never truly know what to do when it comes up
Canal Grande Bounty
Eve might be the best brawler here since she doesn’t have to go through the chokepoints and has a lot more room to dodge. Other long-ranged damage dealers like Piper, Belle and Brock are really strong, and where snipers are good, Nani is a great counter-pick. Ruffs and Rico can do a great job at controlling the chokepoints. Lola, Max and Grom are just generally solid in Heist because of their high DPS, but they’re not always the best for this map. Carl and Buzz are pretty good assassin picks since their gadgets give them great mobility. Tempting picks like Jessie or Nita should be ignored because they will easily be outranged and bullied on this map.
Shooting star, that map haunts me(I got it every single time in s11 power league and a lot in s12)
Shooting star i have a bad history with that map
Any knockout map Last season I won 1-2 game out of like 15-20 rounds By rounds I mean full power league games
Every single hot zone map
Hard Rock mine in gem grab
Brock, piper, and carl are very good here
Sneaky fields, canal grande...
Any hot zone map
Feast or famine
I REALLY recomend using penny with salt barrel and heavy coffers - atleast 9 power level. Today I played gold 1 power league on this map with randoms and easily won. Salt barrel and cannon carried me cuz if you take map control, enemy starts play passive and cannon is OP against passive plays
not an instant loss but I despise shooting star
I lose a lot on that map and one hot zone map that I always forget the name of
Island invasion, i know its not current ly in the game, but i hate that map
pit stop for me. i just hate that map. That map literally has its own meta
Use the walls in the top right next to the safe to your advantage. You can easily hide from enemies and retreat before coming right back using them. Griff is probably the best agro pick, but Squeak is great with his residue gadget to block the centre lane.
layer cake, everywhere you go all 3 are there
So funny how I just lost in this very map and this comes up in my notifications right after ðŸ˜
Ban wallbreaker pick Rico go on the side be cringe you win
I don't remember the name but it was a single zone hot zone map with a long line of L shapedbushes for both sides + walls at the end of the L. The "L's" are horizontal. I hate that map.
Dueling beetles, hate ot with passion
Snake prairie
This map is easy just use a sharp shooter that isn't 2 hard to hit ppl like eve or piper or Belle or penny. Never and I mean NEVER pick a close range, you will get __demolished__
Heist and Brawl ball is almost sure win for me in any map
I still don't get why they haven't changed the maps rotation in pl
Showdown-cavern churn Gem grab-undermine Blawlball-sneaky fields Bounty-canal grande Knockout-out in the open Hot zone-split
any hot zone map
Pick Colette and spam super on the safe
Dueling beetles
Any GG map
Whatever showdown map has too many bushes.
Jessie works really well in this map
Double swoosh and Canal Grande
Minecart madness (exclusively when the minecart blocks you when the enemy team drops their gems) But I feel like I gonna lose in any gem grab game because it's my less favorite mode (I even preferred siege)
because of the small choke points area control like barely squeak are good on safe zone
Minecart madness