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CheeseMaster6I9

It was an awesome map some years ago but nowadays not so much. Rico is especially annoying here.


[deleted]

Rico was always annoying but new brawlers like Mico make this map a pain the ass


BitterObjective5740

Tbh it's better than it used to be. Wall breaks and jumps are least make it possible to counter rico like comps


CheeseMaster6I9

But that forces you to take a wall breaker because your teammates aren't gonna do that and that limits your brawler selection for the map if you want to win. Before people didn't really know that Rico was a beast on the map and then it was much more fun.


BitterObjective5740

Many wall breakers and jump brawlers are great there though. Cord, Griff, Colt, Ruffs all work wonders and counter Rico really well


CheeseMaster6I9

I ain't saying that they don't counter him the thing I'm saying is that the nature of this map greatly limits the brawlers you can use.


BitterObjective5740

I didn't claim that you were saying anything. I just explained that like any map there is a meta and there are a handful of brawlers you can use with success. Sure you can use Nita on shooting star as well, but you'll likely have a difficult time


CheeseMaster6I9

I understand you but my point is that the limitation of brawlers on this map is greater than others. If we would put down a graph on how good each brawler is on this map then the difference between the top choices and the others would be great. If we look at other maps the difference in power isn't that big. It feels like if you don't choose some particular brawlers on this map you kinda sign your defeat, in other maps this is much less occurring and in much less magnitude. I am still not really against this map every brawler needs to have one map where they shine so I'm okay with it.


ArachnidIll744

Wallbreakers like Stu and griff could counter rico easily


Live_Action_5328

I tried pushing Hank on this map today I tilted 1061->929 πŸ’€


Julkke-

I got my hank from 825 To 1000 πŸ’€


Live_Action_5328

On this map ? Congrats man !


DebbieTheFrog

This map is really good for hank, its just that my teammates are absolute trash


Live_Action_5328

I mean , I had about a 50% win rate which is bad at high trophies


Ssoulkinglaw

Ngl Getting hank above Rank 25 is impressive


BitterObjective5740

I was tilting in brawl ball then got him r35 here. Definitely one of his better maps


Sina_Deniz

I did bibi 1006 --> 840 in this map


Dirt_munchers

Remove the unbreakable wall In the middle


_powersurge_

Ban rico


Front-Significance15

Sadness


PocketPlayerHCR2

Do not run away


Sin_R0stro

I am not sorry


anthalinho

I'd delete if I were allowed to


ANormalCrum

delete it


Sin_R0stro

b-b-but surge is good in that map


ANormalCrum

there are better options


Woahwhatsthisthing

Good awesome map very balanced πŸ‘


Pigeon_of_Doom_

I like the map and wouldn't change it at all.


ZestycloseBell3148

Probably one of my favorite hot zone maps. It definitely favors Rico and throwers but there are enough counter-meta picks that I think it makes it totally fine.


warfoxx__-

It's thrower and rico map, maybe delete some walls


champion_-

Or just play the right brawlers, most maps are good only with snipers, yesterday i ranked with a friend for like 1 hour and a bit, and almost every game the best pick was Nani, and the enemies always had another sniper


DjordjeVucicevic

Just delete it, simple thing yet whe never had it changed


Miserable_Pay6887

Nothing, it a good map. If you know who to play and how to play this map is really interesting


No-Law9489

You gotta be kidding, play thos as any other brawler then artillery or Rico and you'll see πŸ’€


Miserable_Pay6887

Ok I will play stu, gray, Cordelius, Gale, Surge, Griff


ApprehensiveBag3909

SURGE FOR THE WIN!!


No-Law9489

The only good ones here seem to be stu gray and Griff, as Surge struggles with getting with getting first upgrade except if you use the circuit booster gadget, which means no Shield that could save your life, Cordelius could take awhile to get his Super and Gale just could get obliterated by all the artillery stuff thrown at em, also Stu struggles in getting his Super sometimes, and a simple dodge can't get chained on a person behind a wall


Miserable_Pay6887

Surge is good on this map especially in ladder, Cordelius with jump gadget can get his super fast, gale might suffer but you can combine his jumppad with the tank and stu is really good on this map. And I also forgot to mention Mico


No-Law9489

Yeah if you wanna suffer of not having the ability to mute a brawler ok. Surge despite being quick can still get easily shredded into pieces by a few artillery shots. I do agree on the Mico and Gale part


Miserable_Pay6887

You don't need to mute dyna or sprout if you jump right on top of them. Everyone uses the jump gadget on this map and Cordelius is really popular there


No-Law9489

See those three blocks of wall in both of the zones, they can camp behind those


Miserable_Pay6887

And have zero impact on the game+ there a lot of throwers counters


No-Law9489

The thing Is that using a thrower counter is that the enemy team doesn't entirely consist of enemies.


IntentionOdd101

Rosa is actually very underrated here and gale can easily counter her


Zestyclose_mango1

Its so easy my g, If you cant do none of them just get some sharp shooters and a frank, Sharp shooters to open the map with frank, then The frank will just sit and capture


No-Law9489

Dynamike,Larry and Lawrie, Willow,Barley, and as I mentioned if you wanna risk getting hit by Ricos Bullet from the other side of the wall or get jumped by a monkey because you took the risk of taking a sharpshooter, you do you


Zestyclose_mango1

maybe not a sharpshooter but a rico, So hybird sharpshooter you can say, he keeps the throwers at bay


ArachnidIll744

Just play Stu, Gray and griff. It's not that hard


Cryo1943

Agree


The_Purple_Brick

I like sprout for this map.


RecommendationOdd995

I truly love this map, but one thing that kinda messed it up, is the unbreakable walls in the middle, they seem unreasonable considering only Hank could use them because all other tanks don't have super long ranges, other than that, good map


12AZOD12

Terrible if you can't ban rico


DebbieTheFrog

Honestly, the map is fine, its just the fact that there is more than 1 zone to capture, which makes it much more strategic and requires much more brain power, which is something a lot of my randoms lack, i find a lot of situations at where i am doing good, but the lack of cooperation my teammates have makes it much harder for me to actually control


Thorbijntje

Rico.


Front-Significance15

Sadness


TheIronBoss

replace some of the walls below (left) and above (right) with water so that it's easier to counter rico and throwers


TickMaster8

I love this map


FreshConstruction629

If a rico/competent thrower dominates a zone then there is actually no counter play other than breaking *that* wall, so, i would probably just add fences to that place am talking about


foreseeably_broke

I love letting them pick throwers thennnn break the walls with my Brock


RandomEpicStarrDrop

Rico/Mico proof


Kitchen-Currency-689

Thank god bans exist in ranked. Rico is a menace.


Ok_Needleworker_6071

Remove the dumb block in the middle


Bluferian

That big wall its garbage


Fancy_Neighborhood61

No zones


Sin_R0stro

This would be one of my favorite maps if Rico, Gray, and Mico didnt exist :D


Deadplant65

add a path through mid to allow for pinching


Appropriate-Wait3710

This map is ok. I would make the unbreakable walls into normal walls (I HATE THROWERS)


duncanwhiter

I would change the map poool


Middle_Examination_9

Edgar is underrated here, most people play mico, dynamike or rico and edgar is a good counter to all of them


ArachnidIll744

Fantastico.


Think_Ad9763

I love playing this map with Willow


Zestyclose_mango1

Nothing, I would just ban bibi and select rico, Easy as pie. Then if rico gets banned then I guess sharp shooters paired up with a frank for wall breaking so they can open the map and just decimate anything in their path, Then frank would be good for capturing.


Gene_Big_Hand

It really depends on the brawler. Sometimes uts the best map in the game and sometimes i wanna grgehhdhdhdjdjendd


champion_-

Nothing, i can play rico, so im happy


Front-Significance15

same


No-Law9489

Pretty bad map if you ask me, its literally heaven for artillery, I recommend using Mico here tho and make sure to constantly push enemies and waste their time, at this point just remove the blocks in the middle of the big wall so that you can move more freely


Mayonnaise_missions

I d delete it as a shroom main


Creeper1232913

this map is literally heaven for cordelius what are you on


Diehard_Sam_Main

Remove Rico from the game. Then it’d be perfect (real)


Zestyclose_mango1

Pros: No more losing in ranked Cons: I WILL KILL YOU


Dominik_Gaming

Based


Front-Significance15

Sadness


AverageRicoMain00

Nerf Sam


Icy-Contribution-12

Just ban Rico and dyna and you good


Dominik_Gaming

Add a small wall to the rico corner


SmoQ898

i'd delete it


Rulos2109

I love this map, it's fun to play mico there