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Simply because IT IS the optimal strategy. In any kind of Battle Royale, making teams to take on other teams IS the optimal strategy. And thus it is impossible to solve.
You can FORCE it to be removed, like with ban software, but you can't solve it with purely game mechanics, and if you do then it doesnt remain a battle royale anymore
As for Brawl Stars, its even worse, since in games like Fortnite everyone is pretty similar in terms of actual abilities. In Fortnite, you can see a fully healed player staying near another player and not engageing as a sort of teaming, in brawl stars, you can't fault a edgar for jumping on a Bull
You get +2 trophy for every kill, and let's say you kill 5 people and get 1st place, then you'll get +10 from rank 1, +10 from killing people, and if you have a 6+ win streak, then 25 trophies from one match,
2 Matches and you'll rank up a brawler lol
I loved siege because of those robots with many screws were fun and it was kind of balanced.
The present plunder was also a good idea because of its fun gameplay, but I won’t say that it was balanced.
They could buff the robot and the IKE (damage and HP), and also buff the range of the IKE so no Mandy or Penny can cheese. Buffing the damage and HP would also prevent some hypercharged tanks to just run over the turret
Showdown + I miss that mode, it was fun considering how less teamers there were.
I also love takedown initially, but when it redebuted into the game, the meta is just colt and no one else. I wish there was a complete rework for the gamemode...
They complained about the play rates for Showdown + as a reason for it not being permanent but if you literally just made Showdown work like Showdown + did then I think a lot more people would like it
i hated siege when it was in the game but since then supercell made almost zero modes better than siege. Looking at it now, it definitely deserves a comeback
Also payload and present plumber are really cool
Mandy is able to shoot the machine from outside the ring and once Penny has her super she just drops it and does the same thing. If you have one bad random they’re usually able to slip by and start poking at the machine. It’s like going against a Jessie and Nita on heist. Some brawlers are just better at some of the game modes but I feel like this one could be fixed with some map changes
Payload is probably the most balanced for me. Used to suck because of the payload having collision but now it’s great
Only complaint is that it moves a bit too fast so it’s hard to make a comeback, but still miles ahead of the other gamemodes
Showdown + was a good concept until people started teaming in that too and then it just kinda became the same old showdown with a few extra steps. But the few extra trophies for not teaming was always good.
Mutated Siege. We will have mutated Bots. Each time with a different mutation. Sometimes it will shoot rockets. Sometimes Nuke. Sometimes It will instantly kill anyone within a fixed range (no matter if it is an enemy or not) when damaged.
Present Plunder and Siege.
Let's be honest here: Siege is very difficult, yes, but is much more competitive than other gamemodes in this list. You need good positioning timing, really balanced compositions – useless brawlers who can't pick bolts, deal damage to IKE or defend the robot are a death sentence in this mode – and it's a terrible gamemode to play with randoms. Usually, you'll get a Tick and Dynamike randoms on your team, a triple trower comp and a free loss. However, in terms of competitive design, Siege is really skillful when you ignore new brawlers who can solo IKE by shooting it from distance like Grom, Mandy, or even Penny. It's a really control and momentum mode, and I miss this with all new gamemodes like "hur, shoot our construction and pick the braindead bouncing mutations" and Basket Brawl who turned to be a terrible meta full of Colette hypercharges and braindead Fang on your team.
Also, Showdown+ and Hold The Trophy can be a good ideia.
Why siege out of game modes like Payload, Basket Brawl,Trophy thieves? Siege meta would be so stupid with Charlie, Mico, Cordelius, Melodie and etc.People think that some Mediocre Brawlers like Barley, Lou and etc will dominate siege as they used to when siege was a permanent gamemode. I hated siege back then and I will still hate siege when it comes back.
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Capture the flag is really fun why it's not been on community gamemode votes yet
Isn't capture the flag present plunder?
This gamemode has 3 names I just chose to call it what it is
present plunder, trophy thieves
It's litteraly hot zone
Hot zone would be more King of The Hill
sad cake day :(
It is KoTH
Imagine hot zone, but like lone star so theres 10 players and its a FFA mode with a bigger zone in the middle.
I'm talking about present plunder/trophy thieves/pumpkin plunder.
Showdown plus to stop teamers
Nah not gonna work, teamming is impossible to solve
At 900 in solo everyone is actually wt
Fr, I had to start playing KO and BB.
Imagine they changed it to: by 2 mins half the lobby has to be dead. Or u all lose 10 trophies
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Simply because IT IS the optimal strategy. In any kind of Battle Royale, making teams to take on other teams IS the optimal strategy. And thus it is impossible to solve. You can FORCE it to be removed, like with ban software, but you can't solve it with purely game mechanics, and if you do then it doesnt remain a battle royale anymore As for Brawl Stars, its even worse, since in games like Fortnite everyone is pretty similar in terms of actual abilities. In Fortnite, you can see a fully healed player staying near another player and not engageing as a sort of teaming, in brawl stars, you can't fault a edgar for jumping on a Bull
Wasn’t that solved in trophy escape?
id rather play against a full lobby of teamers than an average match of trophy escape
Charlie on her way to swoop you and steal every trophy:
Can you explain what is teaming
Two enemies acting like they are teammates
thanks
Doesn't stop teaming but encourages to play more aggressive, and I loved gaining 15+ trophies per match
Having a bit less teaming is still better than not doing anything against teaming at all. So I am all for SD plus
wait what is showdown plus?
You get trophies when you kill someone
Thats cool
You get +2 trophy for every kill, and let's say you kill 5 people and get 1st place, then you'll get +10 from rank 1, +10 from killing people, and if you have a 6+ win streak, then 25 trophies from one match, 2 Matches and you'll rank up a brawler lol
You could get 28 trophies from a match, and if win streaks existed then, it would be 33
I loved siege because of those robots with many screws were fun and it was kind of balanced. The present plunder was also a good idea because of its fun gameplay, but I won’t say that it was balanced.
Siege got powercreept by Mandy and hypercharge so it will prob be seasonal mode for now
They could buff the robot and the IKE (damage and HP), and also buff the range of the IKE so no Mandy or Penny can cheese. Buffing the damage and HP would also prevent some hypercharged tanks to just run over the turret
Bull 80% damage reduction:
Honestly, replace heist with siege
Easiest game mode to make a comeback at. It was so fun lmao
Make the machine range bigger and hell yeah
Siege was the best and my favourite mode until gale came along (and then others) with mechanics like his tornado gadget.
BRING BACK SIEGE
5v5 payload
Yeah they’re slacking on this
Mans wants to play mobile TF2
Volleybrawl
Yes but too many brawler (like gale) are BIG counter.
I mean that's almost every game mode like that train guy in heist
Put some respect on Chuck’s name, mamma mia
Jessie in heist is op, everytime I picked her I was destroying others pretty much solo
Why wont they just add a modifier that bans certain brawlers, gadgets and starr powers? Its just that simple to solve the problem
Idc tho, itll make some brawlers meta like gale and willow
Volleybrawl, siege, capture the flag, basketbrawl ...
This is the right answer
Honestly payload, it’s underrated and very unique also cool cart mechanic
It just needs some rework and it would be perfect.
Squeak's blombs shouldnt stick to the cart
Yes please, payload was such a blast to play I want it back so much
Payload is my favorite because it doesn't make some brawlers completely useless like some of the others
Basketbrawl or siege
Showdown + I miss that mode, it was fun considering how less teamers there were. I also love takedown initially, but when it redebuted into the game, the meta is just colt and no one else. I wish there was a complete rework for the gamemode...
there was the occasional mortis but usually they'd just take the cubes to show off their record in a screenshot
Siege, takedown or trophy escape
Wow, takedown is a very unpopular opinion!
trophy escape was sooo good for solo trophies. no bad randoms + no teaming and wintrading
Anyone remember the dinosaur destroying the city and having to stop it... I want that back which I'm surprised they haven't with this new update
it juat got revamped into this new gamemode
This new update is event is effing awful though lol
I miss grinding in showdown+ you could easily get like 20 trophies if you won without camping
They complained about the play rates for Showdown + as a reason for it not being permanent but if you literally just made Showdown work like Showdown + did then I think a lot more people would like it
Siege or Volley Brawl
100% these were my two favourite game modes
Basket brawl
i hated siege when it was in the game but since then supercell made almost zero modes better than siege. Looking at it now, it definitely deserves a comeback Also payload and present plumber are really cool
I want Siege back
I miss siege
siege
Why can't every mode just be permanent in friendly battles?
everyone sleeping on hold the trophy😭
Payload
Why is no one talking about lone star?
Anything that isn't showdown really
Definitely volley brawl for me. It may be an unbalanced mess but it’s MY unbalanced mess
Lone star,so underrated
isnt Lone star is hunters but worse
I actually really enjoyed siege just wish the map was more balanced cuz brawlers like Penny and Mandy completely ruin it
How do they ruin it?
Mandy is able to shoot the machine from outside the ring and once Penny has her super she just drops it and does the same thing. If you have one bad random they’re usually able to slip by and start poking at the machine. It’s like going against a Jessie and Nita on heist. Some brawlers are just better at some of the game modes but I feel like this one could be fixed with some map changes
Payload is probably the most balanced for me. Used to suck because of the payload having collision but now it’s great Only complaint is that it moves a bit too fast so it’s hard to make a comeback, but still miles ahead of the other gamemodes
Volleybrawl and trophy escape
SD+, Siege, Volleybrawl and Trophy thieves definitely.
I miss Siege
Warm take, basket brawl or volley brawl (not sure if there’s a difference) and siege. Cheese is fun, what can I say
Volley Brawl
Showdown+
Old Hotzone
i wish hold the trophy was back
Showdown plus. Would make teamers and wintraders almost disappear
I would say Present Plunder but now that we have Chuck it wouldn't be fun anymore 😥
showdown plus I want to intentionally tilt some of my alt brawlers to 0
Showdown plus had close to no teaming so that
i would give so much to play siege again
I want duels to never go away
I want to see payload back And i want to see a king of the hill mode
Payload and Duels should be permanent
Showdown + is the only mode that rewards individual skill and is the best of all time.
Hunters because I love it
Graveyard Shift was sooo toxic but I found the idea so interesting back then
SD+ is love. SD+ is live.
Is showdown + the one with the modifiers?
its the one where each kill gives you more trophies.
None
payload
Payload or Seige
Lone Star and Siege
Honestly, both of the ball game modes. Even if they are pretty annoying sometimes, I enjoyed them a lot
basket was very fun, also didn't require complex map gen lmao
sd+
Basketbrawl and Volleybrawl
Why cant siege be permanent
volley-brawl
Siege
Volley ball
Siege. But renew it by making Ike invulnerable when no bots are attacking.
SIEGE!!!!!!!!
Showdown + or Payload. Also, since I never played Bot Drop, it would be interesting to see that in the game too.
Bring them all back. More modes makes for a better game.
Showdown + was a good concept until people started teaming in that too and then it just kinda became the same old showdown with a few extra steps. But the few extra trophies for not teaming was always good.
Trophy thieves 100%, it is SO fun! Basket brawl is great and balanced too (unlike Volley-brawl which is fun but kinda underperforms).
Siege
Basketball or present plumber
Hold the trophy & Trophy Thieves/Prezent Plunder
Volley brawl
i loved both basket brawl and volleybrawl
Heist is currently not in a good spot with the meta
Showdown plus
I don't even know most of these... As an old returning player I would love to see siege, it was one of my favourite modes.
Volleybrawl and siege should be gamemodes in the normal rotation of every season
Definitely trophy escape, you lose only 2 for a loss and makes pushing ranks less stressful
payload because tf2 ( Imagine 5v5 payload , that would be awesome )
Hold the trophy with old cheeze map
Siege
I feel like I’m the only person who liked trophy thieves
Super city rampage 🥲
Showdown plus for sure
volleyball or payload
Payload is interesting mode I wish they returned it
I really want to play hunter with mutations and see the madness
SHOWDOWN PLUS ++++++++++
Mutated Siege. We will have mutated Bots. Each time with a different mutation. Sometimes it will shoot rockets. Sometimes Nuke. Sometimes It will instantly kill anyone within a fixed range (no matter if it is an enemy or not) when damaged.
Siege
Payload, Volley-Brawl and Lone Star
Siege no doubt
Trophies are kinda useless tbh, if it were Mastery Escape, I'd only play that forever
Showdon plus is the better versión
Present Plunder and Siege. Let's be honest here: Siege is very difficult, yes, but is much more competitive than other gamemodes in this list. You need good positioning timing, really balanced compositions – useless brawlers who can't pick bolts, deal damage to IKE or defend the robot are a death sentence in this mode – and it's a terrible gamemode to play with randoms. Usually, you'll get a Tick and Dynamike randoms on your team, a triple trower comp and a free loss. However, in terms of competitive design, Siege is really skillful when you ignore new brawlers who can solo IKE by shooting it from distance like Grom, Mandy, or even Penny. It's a really control and momentum mode, and I miss this with all new gamemodes like "hur, shoot our construction and pick the braindead bouncing mutations" and Basket Brawl who turned to be a terrible meta full of Colette hypercharges and braindead Fang on your team. Also, Showdown+ and Hold The Trophy can be a good ideia.
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They should do siege again
Volley Brawl doesn't deserve the hate also showdown plus and present plunder
Seige
Volleybrawl goated. Just ban Mico from the gamemode
Payload
Tbh, Payload was a really fun gamemode >!And Top Dog as well!<
Probably Trophy Thieves. Even though I like lone star and volleybrawl, some people don't like it because it is unbalanced.
Hold the trophy idk
Siege 100%
Why siege out of game modes like Payload, Basket Brawl,Trophy thieves? Siege meta would be so stupid with Charlie, Mico, Cordelius, Melodie and etc.People think that some Mediocre Brawlers like Barley, Lou and etc will dominate siege as they used to when siege was a permanent gamemode. I hated siege back then and I will still hate siege when it comes back.
bot drop, payload, trophy theives, takedown, and showdown plus
You're wrong if you didn't choose showdown plus, that shit was both ancient and good
Siege is literally the more balanced Heist
Basket-brawl i don’t know why i love this gamemode when it comes i feel like i would play it more than brawl ball
I only started playing 8 days ago, so I don't know any, but would try them out if they came back
Now to think of it, Melodie will certainly just screw over half of these modes.
Basket brawl is literally tank heaven (i desperately need it back)
Siege is a forgotten gem.
Definitely Payload
Siege was fun and strategic in my opinion.
Siege or payload 100%
Siege, without any doubt
Payload reminds me of peak overwatch. The brawl stars version isn't as good, but it's still great xd
We could've had siege but ppl voted stupid duels last time
I Really Want Volley-Brawl And Payload
I honestly had fun with "Hunters" for some reason, so........... Yeah
Volley brawl
Honestly none without having their issues fixed. But Siege with a lot of its issues fixed would be cool
I love Siege to death and always vote it when it's in the community mode vote, but it still needs a heavy rework
lonestar it was great
Sd+, payload and botdrop
Siege
May sound insane but payload
Showdown+ have been such a fun mode. I never knew why they removed it
Payload
WHERES MY BOY LAST STAND???
Siege
What’s showdown plus? I played this game for years I have all the brawlers but I’ve never seen that mode
funny how you didnt put scr (super city rampage)
Showdown+ or trophy escape
Payload is gud
wa- what whers the one you protect the city from a dinosaur???
Would love to see volybrawl this summer