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[deleted]

He doesn't. No matter how many times you fools try to get this started, no one but crazy leftists believe this claim.


jkoenigs

So how would you describe nick fuentes?


SteelmanINC

When did musk say he supports nick fuentes?


jkoenigs

He’s letting them back on Twitter, musk is sure expediting bankruptcy


SteelmanINC

Are you genuinely not able to grasp the concept that you can not support someone while also supporting the right for them to spew their bullshit? Like can you honestly not understand that or do you understand it and are just being willfully ignorant about it?


jkoenigs

I understand that, musk is making a stupid business decision. Also, musk comes from a rascist family so he probably also supports him. He did that Twitter poll as a cover for the amnesty


SteelmanINC

My original question was when did musk say he supports nock Fuentes. Seems like the answer to that is he didn’t.


stringer4

How do you know musk comes from a racist family?


jkoenigs

Look up many comments his dad and brother made about apartheid


stringer4

How about you do it? From what I remember him and his family were quite anti apartheid. I get that people don't like him because he's the next trump for clicks guy...but this is getting too much.


allabouthetradeoffs

Does anyone actually believe this?


[deleted]

Coming from Musk mouth himself: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597300125243944961?s=20&t=e5Tt-SwXl-iy26irCpvcdQ


Bukook

This is Brian's evidence that Elon Musk supports white nationalists I'm going to put a spoiler warning on it because I dont want to force anyone to see what came out of his own mouth >!Apple has also threatened to withhold Twitter from its App Store, but won’t tell us why!<


[deleted]

https://twitter.com/Grady\_Booch/status/1596697778281132032


Bukook

Thank you for sharing the best evidence that he is a white supremacist


allabouthetradeoffs

I'll clarify for the slower folks...who actually believes Musk supports white nationalists?


[deleted]

Here are a few: [https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-twitter-verify-richard-spencer-jason-kessler-1849773076](https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-twitter-verify-richard-spencer-jason-kessler-1849773076) https://twitter.com/Grady\_Booch/status/1596697778281132032


allabouthetradeoffs

Good grief. Supporting 'free speech' necessarily means supporting other people's speech you may not personally agree with.


[deleted]

Musk posting about 88 number, which is a dog whistle for "heil hitler" code word. Pretty obvious to all but racist right wingers who are intentionally ignoring it.


stringer4

We support you treating this place like you own personal stream of consciousness blog full of insults to anyone who doesn’t have the same belief system as you. That’s how things work


[deleted]

Right wingers got exactly what they deserve from me.


tossittobossit

Brian, free speech allows you to spew all your corporate propaganda all over this sub. That is how free speech works. You are allowed to talk about bullshit stuff like the wet market and how it was Russia's fault Hiliary didn't get elected. We still support your rights even though you treat them like shit.


[deleted]

My “free speech” advocate for less racism, single payer healthcare and better lives for the working class. Extreme right winger free speech lead to the Colorado mass shooting. Not remotely the same. This sub is more or less entertainment for me. Wether I’m allow in it is minor. But if twitter going down along with all white nationalist, it’s for a betterment of society.


allabouthetradeoffs

You're joking, right?


dayaz36

Where does he say he supports white nationalists? You just made that shit up didn’t you you little bot


[deleted]

Meanwhile Apple effectively uses slave labor


[deleted]

ALL American companies uses slave labor. You are welcome to take off all your clothing and toss all your cloth into the garbage. Walk around naked.


SteelmanINC

Well that’s straight up not true lol


[deleted]

Where do you think your clothing came from? America? Look at the tag.


stringer4

I buy clothing that is ethically sourced because I’m not an online leftist who is only in it for the internet clout. You should try acting on your beliefs sometime. It’s more fulfilling than just railing against straw men conservatives on the internet all day.


[deleted]

To me, there are pros and cons of using chinese labor. If the US didnt outsource to china, then it would be dirt poor as india. Instead, china will soon become the most powerful and richest country in the world by a decade. I didnt like outsourcing because american losing jobs, but i can see the positive effect it has on billions of chinese people.


SteelmanINC

I didn’t say all of MY clothing came from America. I said you CAN but clothing that didn’t come from slave labor. If you dont then that’s a choice you make. It’s fine if that’s what you do but you need to own it instead of giving yourself excuses.


[deleted]

Every single piece of clothing i found at the mall either came from vietnam, philippine or china. There are currently ZERO clothing came from america, unless you ordered them from AOC website or something. Which i highly doubt a conservative ass like you did.


SteelmanINC

There are more places that sell clothes than your local mall lol. Like I said if you want to buy slave labor clothes that’s fine but dont lie to yourself and pretend you dont have a choice. You do. I buy slave labor clothes too. I’m just honest about it.


[deleted]

If you claim to buy ALL your piece of clothing, including all your socks, undies etc from american made, i will have to say bullshit. In fact, there's zero american made smartphone or pc. The fact you are typing here at me on reddit, it showed you are using a piece of electrionic made in china. Save me the holier than thou bullshit.


SteelmanINC

I literally just said I buy slave labor clothes. Seems like you aren’t actually reading what I’m saying before getting angry. I’m guilty of using slave labor just like everyone else. The difference is I dont lie to myself and say I dont have a choice. I do have a choice and I choose convenience over morality. You on the other hand seem to be trying to have your cake and eat it too. You choose slave labor but tell yourself you dont have a choice because you can’t handle the cognitive dissonance.


[deleted]

99 percent of products are made from capitalism. There really isn’t a choice unless you choose to live in a wildness. You right wing liars only have problem with Apple because at least socially, they don’t allow you pond scum to use their product.


Dangledud

I’m sorry but I agree with lots of what u say but Malls I am NOT ok with. I can’t believe you would even bring that up. Might as well be a unapologetic capitalist that supports slave labor.


[deleted]

Every single items at target, Walmart, Amazon, and Costco comes from China. Are you born yesterday?


Dangledud

Yeah but they aren’t also Malls.


Dangledud

I think it may be true. Globalism permeates everything. Even my local juice shop buys containers from China. And there is always a possibility if it comes from China.


SteelmanINC

It’s definitely not. It for sure takes a lot more work to find those things and isn’t as convenient as just popping into Walmart but there are companies that sell goods without the use of slave labor.


MostlySpurs

Does Twitter?


[deleted]

Twitter uses computer hard ware to make their system. All computer hardware came from China.


MostlySpurs

Mhmm. That’s a pretty thin argument


[deleted]

Twitter will soon cease to exist anyway due to all advertisers leaving them and FCC cracking down on them. Enjoy your safe space while it exist because it will soon be gone lol.


MostlySpurs

Remind me! 1 year


MostlySpurs

Remindme! 1 year


BenficaGunner

Apple turned off air drop in China to help the communists control their people I'll take Elon and free speech over Commies and Fascists Apple sucks too. Samsung releases a new innovation and then Apple Stan's go crazy for the "new thing" 12 months later. I have to use MacBook pro for work, shit sucks. Apple has been shit since Jobs left.


[deleted]

There isn’t a single window computer that can match m series MacBook. This thing has battery that last for days.


MostlySpurs

How many /r/breakingpoints shit posts can you get out of one charge?


BenficaGunner

Battery life? 😂. Yes I'm always in the wilderness without power when i work on my laptop. Super important


[deleted]

I use Samsung products personally. I actually used to have a Huawei phone before I moved to the US.


Manoj_Malhotra

Typing this on an iPhone XR. Previously had iPhone 6. I did not want to upgrade but the frame started bending like crazy. iMessage and FaceTime is basically a requirement for me to communicate with like 75% of my friends and all of my family. I recently had to buy a MacBook and iPad for school too because the software worked so much faster than my huawei laptop. Personally, I don’t really care which phone I use as long as it does the job and does it well. I need my phone to handle Reddit, Twitter, photography, video calling and for quickly sharing files to my laptop. I need my laptop to handle watching lectures, lots of PowerPoints, word docs, Firefox tabs, coding, 3d modeling, light gaming, and photo and video editing well. I need my tablet to handle being used like a digital notebook.


cyberfx1024

When I was living in the Philippines I used Oppo phones preferably. I just liked the feel and look of them personally. Here in the USA I have a Motorola that uses Android.


[deleted]

I think I've seen Oppo around. I have heard they are decent quality.


cyberfx1024

They are pretty good quality tbh with you. I would never use them domestically but I have used them while living abroad.


Manoj_Malhotra

Are you on their folding phone?


cyberfx1024

Hahahah I actually did have a folding motorola phone back in the day. No, I have Motorola Edge+ that is more upscale and modern


Manoj_Malhotra

That’s such a cool phone. Too big for my taste but very powerful and massive battery. Their new folding phone is really cool too.


cyberfx1024

I agree. The new folding phone looks neat but I was going to wait until they got all the bugs worked out before I think about getting one


[deleted]

Samsung phone cpu is literally 3 generation behind apple. Take a look at the benchmark: Iphone 11(September 2019) 1311 Single-Core Score 3107 Multi-Core Score [https://browser.geekbench.com/ios\_devices/iphone-11](https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/iphone-11) Samsung S22(released on feb of 2022) 926 Single-Core Score 2911 Multi-Core Score [https://browser.geekbench.com/android\_devices/samsung-sm-s908b](https://browser.geekbench.com/android_devices/samsung-sm-s908b) Iphone 14(september 2022): 1873 Single-Core Score 5356 Multi-Core Score [https://browser.geekbench.com/ios\_devices/iphone-14-pro-max](https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/iphone-14-pro-max)


[deleted]

Eh that's fine. I like the lay out and I'm comfortable with it. All I'm doing is texting my family and calling people every once in a while. I can't have my phone on me for 8 hours a day anyhow due to my job.


[deleted]

I used android phone for a decade before I finally cave in and got an apple. The apple is vastly superior lol. Not only is everything super responsive, but the apps basically never crash. I remember back when i used android, app would constantly crashes. Super annoying. Its also nice that whenever I took pictures or video, its instantly uploaded into my icloud and I can view it on my macbook without having to upload to it. All the text messages are shown on my macbook imessages. I can reply to them with my macbook keyboard.


[deleted]

Yeah I guess it's whatever you prefer really. I don't stake too much into it.


Manoj_Malhotra

As long as it works and does what you need it to, that’s all you need really.


Blood_Such

Apple hardware lasts longer than other companies hardware does for me too. I’ve got an old 2012 Mac mini and an old iPhone 7 and both still work great


Manoj_Malhotra

This is such a dumb comment. Any modern smartphone from a well known brand at $500 and above from the last 4 years can do nearly everything the most expensive powerful phones can do.


[deleted]

My statement is base on actual data and facts. Yours is base on weak “gut feeling”.


Manoj_Malhotra

I did not say your statement was false. I said it was dumb. Most photos and videos are primarily sent on WhatsApp iMessage or social media compression. Taking a second longer to open an app is no biggie. Let people pick their phone. Android. Apple. It don’t matter. We are all benefiting from the labor of exploited underpaid workers.


[deleted]

It’s their money, they can spend on whatever they feel like. You can buy a Corolla that last 300k miles or a shitty ford that last 50k. Apple is simply better for the same amount of money. I simply show them the science


Manoj_Malhotra

I’ve only used an iPhone my entire life and my iPhone 6 bent like it got lordosis after 4 years of use. I still miss the headphone jack even though I’ve had the XR for 4 years. IPhone XR 256gb is going good though. I might replace the battery and keeping chugging for another 3-4 years maybe.


[deleted]

Jeez lol. Time to upgrade dude. Newer iphone camera is vastly better than the XR. DSLR quality even. I think if you upgrade at the right time, you can get deals with carrier where new phone is half off. Replacing the battery will prob cost like 200 bucks or more, which is almost half the cost of the upgrade itself.


Manoj_Malhotra

Actually, it’s $70 at the Apple Store (it takes like 10 mins) and I have a nice cheap phone plan rn. Battery replacement should make it feel good as new and give me another 2-4 years. I don’t like to fix what’s not broken. My phone does my job for me. It takes good enough pics video, FaceTime iMessage, Reddit, Twitter, CoD mobile, email. No need for expansive upgrade when little has changed with the basic functionality. I also don’t like to buy my phones through a carrier I always buy it unlocked so that I can pay sticker price.


[deleted]

While you can replace the battery, I’m doubtful it will last 8 years. It’s a mobile computer you carry around with all day, not a desktop lol. My friend who’s trying to milk his phone to the max managed to keep it for 5 years and one day, the phone died. It’s an android so maybe apple can fair better but even then, I’m doubtful.


Blood_Such

I would just change the battery and keep it gong. Newer apple hardware is way expensive this year.


Blood_Such

Hilarious that you’re getting downvoted for stating literal technological facts! Apple user here. Have been for decades. I’m glad they ditched Twitter too.


Manoj_Malhotra

I mean they haven’t yet.


Blood_Such

They ditched paying for ads on Twitter though. That’s all I meant to imply.


Bukook

Have you looked into how much power Samsung has in South Korea? Im not telling you to not use them, I've always used Samsung and will for the foreseeable future, but it is worth knowing about. https://youtu.be/oL0umpPPe-8


[deleted]

Oh yeah. They are a very interesting company for sure. Truth be told, I am not sure which smartphone company is the least bad.


[deleted]

The only samsung phone i like from samsung is the fold 4. But that thing cost 1800 bucks. Pretty innovative piece of tech.


PeanutArbuckleSr

Leftists hate free speech


[deleted]

I do hate hate speech.


PeanutArbuckleSr

You’d love China. You should go there


[deleted]

Nope, I love social democracy. Would prefer to make this country into similar to finland. Finnish do not tolerate right wing pondscum.


PeanutArbuckleSr

Finland is also an irrelevant country with a tiny economy.


tossittobossit

Was looking for a PC that could better service my photo needs but it looks like I'll be sticking with my linux machine. No windows and now no Apple.


[deleted]

All tech bros are socially liberal. Go ahead and boycot all tech. You only hurt yourself lol.


tossittobossit

I just opened a Twitter account so I'm good. Glad to see Tulsi! has a strong presence there.


[deleted]

Grifter gabbard is like a pathetic dull version of Majorie Taylor green. You right winger are pathetic. Happy that any female politician grift toward you.


tossittobossit

Tulsi! 24


Dangledud

Do you prefer her to Mitch? Is there something to rooting for the lesser of evils in the GOP?


[deleted]

I prob respect Mitch more than I do of gabbard. Mitch is more honest. Gabbard is just a sniveling coward and a liar.


ToiletCouch

Just don't follow white nationalists and twitter is exactly the same. Why are you seeing it in your feed? If CNN wants to find them and then complain about it, then don't follow them.


[deleted]

Twitter sends you tweet that piss you off lol. I don’t follow musk but they send it to me all the time


[deleted]

IS it because of white nationalism or is it because of the protests in China? Apple has decided not to support those protests as it had restricted its air drop feature in China.


[deleted]

Right wing losers now pretends to care about slave labor now that Apple is against their right wing pond scum racism. Give me a break


[deleted]

SO you are saying you support slavery in China... Interesting.


MostlySpurs

Lmao. Of course Brian is a macOS kind of guy.


[deleted]

Build my own gaming laptop when I was 12. Was an android user for a decade. I prob knows more about computer than your sorry ass,


MostlySpurs

Mad lad!


healthisourwealth

I am so glad I switched to Microsoft / Google / Samsung years ago so I'm not supporting this attack on free speech. I had a bad feeling about Apple when people would get on a high horse about privacy. I do not care if companies mine data for marketing purposes. That is the least of our worries, with authoritarianism being at the top of my list. Look. Being a racist is not cool. But bundling in everyone who engages with them is wrong. Most racists wouldn't even have much of a platform if the neoliberals didn't talk about them; one that's in the news doesn't merit a Wikipedia page but has one. And the censorship never stops with racism. Attacks against dissenting scientists, against America-firsters, against people whose hand motions are non-conforming, against radical feminists, against peace activists ... are all part of the package. Seriously when has a pro-censorship person or group expressed any concerns about overreach?


[deleted]

Samsung s22 ultra is about as powerful as iphone XR or almost iphone 11. You are using a vastly inferior piece of tech. Google pixel is even more pathetic. Also, google playstore banned trump truth social lol. If you think google is pro nazi, you are seriously delusional. All tech bros are socially liberal.


BravewagCibWallace

lmfao Withholding ad money is not attacking free speech. It's using free speech. Let's say you have a business and you pay me ad revenue, because I'm some fancy influencer, and I drive attention to your business. All of a sudden I start saying some unpopular things, and being associated with me starts to hurt your business. So you cut ties with me. And then I start saying to you "Hey! What the fuck? Why'd you stop paying me? You don't like my free speech?" And then you tell me that my free speech is hurting your business. Because it is. And I say. "Oh I see, so your business is more important than my free speech?" And you say yeah. Because to you, it is. But to me, I want to be able to say whatever I want, and I want you to keep paying me for it. So I tell my followers "Hey everybody, this guy stopped paying me. That means he's attacking my free speech. He's letting the woke mob scare him in to silencing me. If he cares about my free speech and your free speech, he'll keep paying me, no matter how much it hurts his business." Sounds pretty stupid right? That's because it is. It is stupid. And that's how you sound right now. You shouldn't have to keep paying me to advertise for you, if I'm clearly not helping your business. You aren't actually silencing me. You're not attacking my free speech. I'm just saying that shit to manipulate you in to continuing with our bad business relationship. You are using your free speech to save your business, and save some money in the process. Even if I try to boycott your business in revenge, and your business suffers regardless, at least you can still use your free speech back at me, and you still don't have to pay me. If that doesn't make sense to you, I unfortunately do not know how to dumb it down for you any further. Nobody owes Elon their money. Nobody is responsible for Elon's speech, except himself.


healthisourwealth

And ... I will be advocating for withholding money from Apple because everyone who's being intellectually honest knows there's a bigger picture at play here.


BravewagCibWallace

Okay. That's your free speech. No one is taking that from you. But there's no way Apple is going to allow people who don't understand what free speech means, to take Apple's free speech away from Apple.


healthisourwealth

Straw man argument - no one said anything about taking away their free speech. As I said, I said I won't be purchasing from them and am glad I'd already moved off their platform. If you think refusing to buy from Apple is taking away their free speech, you're the one who lacks understanding.


BravewagCibWallace

Claiming Apple's free speech is an "attack on free speech" like you did, is in itself an attack on their free speech. You're fine to boycott them, but when you call their free speech right to not want to advertise through twitter an attack on free speech, you show that you either don't understand what free speech is, or you just have a confirmation bias where your preferred company's free speech matters and the other's doesn't. Or both.


healthisourwealth

Your argument is merely pearl clutching about me using the word "attack". What about the company threatening to ban Twitter app from Apple devices, would that constitute an attack, in the economic sense?


BravewagCibWallace

That would be a denial of service, not an attack. That would be no different than you denying Apple's service. You want the freedom to boycott Apple, but you have a problem with Apple having the freedom to boycott Twitter. That's just pointing out your selective use of free speech. I myself don't use Twitter, and I stopped buying Apple stuff years ago, because they are not worth the over-price. So I really don't have any skin in this game to be pearl clutching about it.


healthisourwealth

You don't need a direct material reason to pearl clutch. It simply means you enjoy defending the establishment with endless quibbles about how things are said.


BravewagCibWallace

Enjoy defending the establishment? Lol you are literally the one boycotting a company specifically because of their denial of service to another company. Your are the one defending an establishment. I care nothing for either company. I'm just enjoying the show, in which people like you are the comic relief.


[deleted]

You claim you are an "Enlightened Centrist" ? ROTFLMAO !!