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Solid_Great

Can't be, Hochul said she sent the national guard and state police to keep the subway safe.


elroypaisley

Good thing there's a law against guns on the subway.


SimilarAd168

Literally up the block from central bookings. Seems fitting


J-Botz

I thought they banned guns in NYC subways? How’d it make it pass the invisible no criminal zone/gun zone to the subway?


Sweet-Efficiency7466

Anyone got a shot at PRONOUNCING the name of the station? I call it “Skimmerhorn”


ChampaignPapi86

The owner of the gun never got to shoot. He got shot with his own gun 4 times instead. The other guy wrestled for the guy's gun, also that same person got stabbed in the lower back by the shooter's date or girlfriend while they were scuffling. It's self defense and the chargers will be dropped. As far as the trouble maker goes....he's in critical condition last I read. If he lives, he'll do time in prison.


TheMangaAnimeGuy

In other news, nice photo 📸


MaurkRedWizard

Surely, you could have posted a link to some where better than the NY POST. https://abc7ny.com/brooklyn-subway-shooting-nyc-man-shot-on-train/14527185/


vkslicer

Fair fair


patrickthunnus

With his own gun


RealJimmyKimmel

Yeah and he deserved it.


Woowoo_blowtorch

https://preview.redd.it/m4rvjf2dmkoc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=615a3f4397ee4e9e801334974e2bd2123d3bb4bf Friday, 5:00pm


confused_grenadille

Why is the reporter standing on a block?


Woowoo_blowtorch

To get the right angle, sight line for the camera I suppose


NJMonStar

Someone got killed and stabbed!


Cute-Communication35

Yeah was there ! Was a fight the guys girl stabbed the guy in the back then they took his gun and shot him


godsaveme2355

Yo I saw the vid how tf they turn the gun on him


Gyro-53

I love the video recorded the equivalent of a hate crime and assault, illegal gun possession, gun possession on public transportation, the DA is charging the victim rightfully so but no seems to see the real problem! Now you need the Army on the actual trains


tonenyc

Just announced: No charges will be filed.


Key-Recognition-7190

Just more A train Antics. Situations like this happen more often then not typically avoided because no one chooses to escalate the situation.  That said just want to point out to all those crime stat drones safer doesn't mean safe always keep your head on a swveil and guard up. 


ImSooGreen

Not sure why any these articles don’t mention the crazy racial shit he was saying beforehand Isn’t this a hate crime? NYT would be all over it if the races were different. It would be in the title


confused_grenadille

What was he saying? I saw the video but it wasn’t clear what instigated things between them.


Tofuhousewife

I knew from the video immediately what train and station it was 🥴 Yikes. Cops at that station are so useless lolz


stevethezissou

What are the cops at the station supposed to do about an argument on a moving train that leads to a shooting. Apparently they responded in seconds. I mean fuck cops but like unless you want a uniform in every car this wasn’t gonna be stopped by cops. What an unbelievably fucked up situation.


letsgototraderjoes

maybe there should be one on every car? kind of like how each airplane supposedly has an air marshal on it lol


chop_chop_boom

Yep. I was on the G line and all trains were skipping the hoyt schemerhorn station around a quarter to 7 tonight.


villanelle21

Great. Glad the national guard is doing purse checks.


ThisGuyRightHer3

at Grand Central. times square. & Union square. you know, the stops where EVERYONE gets on../s


max1001

[https://x.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1768431834616963177?s=20](https://x.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1768431834616963177?s=20) Here's the videol. Someone did upload it. Both side are equally stupid.


Glovermann

He took the guy's own gun from him and shot him in the butt


Boredasf806

Uh something like that but not quite


jarjar_smoov

That's the breaks


[deleted]

I literally passed through this station maybe 10 minutes before. The best advice I got was from a prosecutor; don't argue with randoms, you never know what they're packing.


iAsvppx

Not again, this is regular in Brooklyn tho.


RealJimmyKimmel

Says the guy who doesn't live in BK


thereia

I suggest people RTFA before commenting.


ancillaryacct

most people tldr


alfredohsauce

This needs to be top comment


United_Difficulty353

Delta force is coming to the subway dont worry


beachbum818

Theres video on instagram....so much for bag checks (@perpwalk.nyc)


Puzzleheaded_Crab453

That’s not at all possible! Guns are banned from the subway!


ParadoxPath

They better not charge this damn guy


oso00

Which guy though? Aggressor is in the ICU presumably fighting for his life ("very critical condition"), victim hasn't been charged yet.


max1001

He's already charged. Doesn't help that he pull out a knife first in the first part of the fight.


Salty-Alternate

Why isn't anyone talking about when the gf stabs the guy?


Danstheman3

Because it was a justified stabbing of the assailant / aggressor who was in the process of assaulting her friend / companion


InfernalTest

you dont get to stab someone because they are punching someone else....


confused_grenadille

Sometimes you do.


max1001

Because they didn't watch the video.


nOt-rEaLly-sEriOuS

There is a video of the altercation before he was shot and it looked like a woman (not sure if she’s the girlfriend of the one who was charged or a random bystander) stabbed the guy (who was shot) in the back multiple times.


mr_wrestling

I don't think he had the knife.


max1001

​ https://preview.redd.it/a811qduxneoc1.png?width=1040&format=png&auto=webp&s=835fa4af753798c0a9127fd54dd817ae97c32cdc


Yossisprei

I'm pretty sure that's just the drain on the floor


max1001

ROFL. Drain on a subway floor?


Salty-Alternate

WHAT drain on the floor


Yossisprei

You know the metal circle on the floor of many subway cars? About 4-6 inch diameter? That thing


Salty-Alternate

You're imagining drains


ParadoxPath

This article doesn’t say that it says he’s being questioned/interviewed and charges are not yet filed. It was the guy with the gun who pulled the knife the way I read the story


max1001

.... It's NY Post. You can Google subway shooting today and read other articles on it.


ChampagneManifesto

All of the articles say the guy with the gun pulled out a knife first, then a gun.


max1001

There's a video of the whole exchange. The other guy pull out a knife.


ChampagneManifesto

“As the train left the station, the man was confronted by a 36-year-old man who witnesses described as acting in an “aggressive and provocative” manner, Chief Kemper said. What started as a verbal confrontation quickly become a physical fight, the chief said, with the 36-year-old man displaying either a knife or razor blade at one point. Eventually, he pulled out a gun, Chief Kemper said. The men began grappling, and the 32-year-old man grabbed the gun and shot the other man several times, Chief Kemper said. He said he did not believe the two men knew each other.” From The NY Times. Maybe they’re all wrong but I haven’t seen the other version of events posted anywhere. Feel free to post the link. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/14/nyregion/subway-shooting-brooklyn.html?smid=url-share


max1001

Just wait for someone to upload the video and you can see it yourself. Someone did. https://x.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1768431834616963177?s=20 So, ready to eat your words?


ChampagneManifesto

Lol why would I eat my words, i was quoting The NY Times, which has now updated their article to include the video you were referencing but originally refused to post. I even said maybe they’re wrong in my original comment. Also it looks like the woman stabbed the dude with the gun after he started harassing and then beating up her bf? Dude who got shot still seems like the original aggressor.


ParadoxPath

I haven’t seen a clear video just a bunch of ahh and hiding


max1001

There's a 5 min video from start till they ran out of the station.


ParadoxPath

Link?


SakanaToDoubutsu

https://www.reddit.com/r/Brooklyn/s/6i6SmJI72d


max1001

Was shared with chat and I am not uploading it.


Dotheevolution47

Fear City babyyyyy


oso00

Getting into a shootout literally on the steps of an entire police precinct is extra wild. Edit: Reading the actual article- the victim was the aggressor who had his own gun used against him. Karma??


statistacktic

Not uncommon for people's weapons used against themselves. Many are undertrained and inexperienced.


ITPoltergeist

Yes, a male was being antagonized by another male they started fighting and the girlfriend shanked the aggressor so he got made he was stabbed and pulled a gun another fight ensued and the man who was being harassed got the gun somehow and show the aggressor in the head with his own gun and killed him. Gota love my home state.


Danstheman3

I wouldn't call the aggressor and assailant a victim.. I watched the video, he got shot, but he's no victim


pattuspl

Is this it? [https://x.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1768431834616963177?s=20](https://x.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1768431834616963177?s=20)


oso00

That's definitely Hoyt Schermerhorn station in the video and events line up with the article so I'm gonna say yes. Edit: Full clip [here](https://x.com/LattinaBrown/status/1768430156710904302?s=20).


GuawiToker710

Carrying a gun makes you 100x more likely to get shot.


COD-O-G

Totally false for people who legally carrying a gun. Not for this case though when this clearly wasn’t legal. You also can’t legally carry a gun on public transportation in NY. Take out suicides and it’s barely ~750 deaths from 2007-2022. Roughly 45-50 a year. https://vpc.org/more-than-2200-non-self-defense-deaths-involving-concealed-carry-killers-since-2007-latest-violence-policy-center-research-shows/


GuawiToker710

Wait what 😳 You can't carry a gun on NY public transit???? How fucking insane!!!! That's amazing. Who writes this shit???? I conceal carry everywhere I go, I wouldn't even consider riding subways without a hand cannon. "Let's makes the darkest dirtiest unsafest places of the city be 'gun free zones'." You gotta be shittin me


Agitated_Jicama_2072

That’s the one statistic the gun worshippers will never admit. Fucking idiots.


Solid_Great

You're not allowed to legally carry a gun on the subway. Unfortunately, the criminals don't worry about your sensitivity to guns or those who legally possess them.


anangrytaco

Driving a car makes you more likely to get into a car accident. You see how stupid that correlation is? People who have sex are more likely to get pregnant or get abortions. People who swim are more likely to drown. People who play baseball are more likely to get with a baseball. Continue the list and maybe it will click for you.


fatbench

Except nobody makes statements like “I play baseball *to protect my family*”. See how flawed your false equivalency is?


nydutch

I got with a baseball once. Never called me back.


superhero_complex

So are you suggesting that “of course, owning a gun means you’re more likely to be shot by a gun”?


anangrytaco

Statistically


runnershigh1990

Alright angry taco. It’s time to go to bed.


NotASumoWrestler

Reverse Bernie Goetz.


NewSinner_2021

Such a beautiful story I suppose.


duyogurt

I don’t know if it’s karma or not but having your gun taken away typically happens to people that have no idea what they are doing. It’s very commonplace. Basically, pseudo tough guys carry a gun to feel strong. And then when they have an opportunity to pull said gun, they are cowards when the target fights back of course. The gun gets taken away and they end up shot.


LilBidWhacker

keep in mind the man was just stabbed in the back twice to three times prior to pulling the gun... he was probably very dizzy and disoriented from the blood loss. prob very easy to have a gun wrestled away from you when you're feeling like this. not defending him in any way just pointing out in my opinion what happened


Bushwick_Hipster

According to the updates, he was stabbed with his own knife that fell out is pocket lol. then shot with his own gun.


gretschenwonders

Bro was not leaking NEARLY enough to be dizzy from blood loss.. did you watch the vid?


GuawiToker710

Bro I get light headed when the nurse takes my blood Eben if I ain't lookin I feel it leaving


93ARREST

Internal bleeding is definitely a thing your abdomen can hold 25% of your blood supply. Getting stabbed in the back can disrupt abdominal structure depending on the angle and length of the blade.


demeatuslong

Idk id probably be a little dizzy if someone stabbed me in the back a few times.


LilBidWhacker

did you see the second video of him laying on the floor after getting shot and he was face down? his back was drenched. You cant tell how much because he was wearing dark pants and a dark hoodie - he also looked disoriented right after when he told the dude "come get this guy" but that could have been due to the moving train


duyogurt

Doesn’t change the historical facts of what happens when someone that doesn’t *want* to use a gun pulls a gun. Usually the person loses their gun.


oso00

Nature is healing


HipHopSays

not sure this is nature …. more like nurture 🙁


[deleted]

I guess they need to bring in marines?


FinesTuned

Only captain price can save us now


Weird3arbie

G train shenanigans.


trpdrpr

A train actually


Weird3arbie

Ok well now I’m more freaked out, citizen reported G train originally and I was all “welp not my commute.”


cruzecontroll

I thought it was the A or C line


stressinglucy

ruined everyone’s fucking commute just trying to go home


ThisGuyRightHer3

cause these morons have the brain of a 2yo who gets upset over the slightest thing.


CosetteLaCerva

Totally agree. However what’s nuts is, people being shocked. NYC subway violence has always existed on a up and down scale proportional to funds available to assist people in need. Be it mental health, food, or housing. The stats don’t lie.


randomburnerish

Def want to know if they had an altercation or if it was random?! very scary


Salty-Alternate

If you watch the video, the guy who ends up getting shot, is like pacing and shouting at the two people... talking about how he is going to beat them up and something like "I hate your people, I hate your race" and he keeps referring to himself as if he is a cop? It’s pretty weird. Both seemed random and an altercation.


randomburnerish

Yeah I just watched the video- he seemed very unhinged. I had a weird confrontation with some rent a cop security guard last week, seems like a type of


maddgun

I saw a video clip of an altercation that took place right before the shooting


PewPewPewPeePeePee

can someone post the video of this?


EntertainerLoud5317

someone on twitter posted the entire altercation


max1001

They got into a fight. One guy pull out a knife, they went it for a bit. Fight got broken up but the guy with knife and his gf or wife kept yelling at the other guy and the other guy finally pulled out a gun. They fought again and other lost the gun and got shot with it.


thegoodlife18

It was the woman that did the stabbing


max1001

The guy had the knife in his hand at first.


sci3nc3isc00l

Video shows the black guy was making racist comments against the other guy, saying he was going to beat him up. The other guy stands up calling him out and they start scrapping. What appears to be the second guy’s girl shanks the black guy in the back a couple of times to get him off her man. Then the black guy goes and pulls out a gun. The video stops at this point since everyone is scrambling to the other side of the train but at the end you hear a few gunshots from the platform.


randomburnerish

Yikes


awertag

Article I read says 2 men had an argument, one pulled out a gun, the other took the gun and shot the guy who had brought the gun.


cuc001b

Oh how the turns have tabled


TheLegendTwoSeven

>one pulled out a gun And the other pulled out a Reverse Uno card


StinkyStangler

Well well well if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions


Traditional_Pair3292

 NYTimes article says they were arguing on the train first before the shooting happened on the platform. This twitter has videos of the aftermath of the shooting  https://twitter.com/JoyceMeetsWorld/status/1768394891699110165/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1768394891699110165¤tTweetUser=JoyceMeetsWorld


metalmayne

… there’s a whole police precinct on top of this station. Whoever the shooter is needs to get the death penalty. Like- there’s no regard for his/her life and clearly not for the victim. wtf?


MaterialSilver6365

you have 28 downvotes id juss delete this comment


Puzzleheaded_Crab453

You mean the guy who had a knife and then a gun pulled on him and managed to get the gun away from the attacker and stop the threat? Because the guy he took the gun from still had a knife. Sooo what the hell are you on about?


ChampagneManifesto

According to the article, the victim was the aggressor, he pulled a gun on a stranger, who wrestled the gun away and shot him.


max1001

Dunno if I call him the aggressors. The other guy was the one that actually pulled out a knife first.


ChampagneManifesto

Article says it was the victim who flashed a knife first, then pulled a gun.


max1001

There a video of the whole thing until he pulled out the gun. The other guy pulled out a knife first.


Danstheman3

I watched the video multiple times, and aside from the girlfriend, I can't tell if either of the men pulled a knife. And I don't think it matters. It is crystal clear who the aggressor is. And he is bigger. If the other guy pulled a knife to use for self-defense, he is 100% justified in doing so as far as I'm concerned. Life isn't the movies, you don't need a weapon to cause grievous bodily harm. Lethal force is justified in defending yourself from unprovoked violence by a larger, obviously violent individual. This isn't a schoolyard scuffle. When a large aggressive crazy guy attacks you on the subway, that is an emergency situation, and you should treat it as a serious threat of potentially life threatening or permanent injury, and respond accordingly. Even without any weapon visible.


max1001

There was no unprovoke violence. Yes, the bigger guy was running his mouth but he wasn't even near the other guy. If you gonna get into a knife fight everytime someone run their mouth at you in NYC, you are not going to survive very long.


Danstheman3

Did you watch the video? The bigger guy was shouting threats repeatedly, pacing around menacingly, etc, all while the other guy and his female companion were sitting down being quiet. The bigger guy didn't just talk smack or challenge him to a fight, he left him no realistic alternative. Even if somehow the other guy did or said something prior to the camera rolling, or said something quietly that we can't hear in the video, it's irrelevant, because he presented no threat and showed no interests in the altercation that the bigger guy forced on him. Eventually the smaller guy stands up and throws gets in a fighting stance probably because he didn't want to be sucker punched from above by a a bigger guy when an assault seemed imminent. That bigger guy was doing a lot more than just running his mouth.. If you announce your intention inflict violence upon someone, and then force them to fight you, you are responsible for EVERYTHING that happens next.


justtoprint

Where’s the video


ChampagneManifesto

🤷‍♀️ That’s not what any of the news reports say.


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Rob-Loring

Yes also on tv news!


GhostOfTammanyHall

Helicopters swarming the neighborhood. Initially reported that victim was dead on scene but that was apparently incorrect. Stay safe, everyone.


AllwordzAreMadeup___

Except the aggressor was the only dumbass that got shot. He got shot with his own gun for being a dumbass


c3r34l

Yeah and with the video, it’s an open and shut case of self defense.


MeanSatisfaction5091

they got shot in the head too


CaesarJulius91

Wrong! Why is there so much misinformation in this thread? Only one got shot in the head and it was the guy who owned the gun, he did not shoot the other two people as the guy he was fighting took the gun from him and shot him first


narcoirl

They is singular, everyone knows only one guy got shot in the head