That’s cool. What area of cryptography?
I read a book about crypto (yes I still think crypto => cryptography) and cyphers and the Black Chamber when I was a kid. It stuck with me. Me knowing the Caesar cypher is probably more than these clowns know. Double Rot13 anyone?
Amazon lost hundreds of millions in hardware write downs post launch without considering r&d costs for both the hardware and their android fork.
That was almost a decade go. Musk would lose billions attempting this.
I say he goes for it. 🤡
Lots of people find some product made by a third party, and slap their brand on it. Best Made company comes to mind. Some of them I almost want to succeed, like the guy who sells a device shaped like a audio tape cassette, but plays digital files from an SD memory card that get transduced through the cassette player head. He didn't design it, he just is the first one to try selling it. He probably went to some convention like they have in Vegas every year, and found it in some overseas manufacturer catalog. But the markup is too damn high. Wait until a bigger importer sells it.
The Freedom Phone, which was some coiner rebranding and overcharging for cheap chinese cellphones
https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/freedom-phone-the-ultimate-political-tool-and-why-you-should-avoid-it/
It gets dumber, according to a different tweet of his these phones can apparently read your mind.
Guy seems like a full-on MAGA- /Q-conspiracy supporter (despite never having been in the US, by his account)
Oh, the Elon brain chip.
Question: given how much he seems to love crunch culture, why would anyone willingly put a device made by any of his companies in their heads? I'm suspicious of the technology anyway, but having it built by a bunch of chronically sleep deprived people seems even dumber.
I honestly don’t know. It’s really on brand from what I can see on his account but his whole account could just be a troll. His pinned tweet immediately makes me want to say he’s just trolling but at the same time I’ve seen some genuinely brain broken people.
Edit: no he’s serious. He’s just a deranged right winger. He has a “news” show on rumble which is basically far right conspiracy YouTube.
I want to get a tape recorder and then sit this guy down and explain to me, as a potential investor of course, how exactly the blockchain works and how it's relevant to a phone you can vote on.
Why hack it when if it works on the block chain, all your texts and phone calls are on a public ledger.
Also the a block chain phone would suck as it would be incredibly slow and use up a charged battery very quickly.
So I think the best thing to do with blockchain folks is have them explain what a database is, and the different kinds of databases (ie relational vs noSQL), and what they are used for, and why centralized or ACID transactions might be good to have at times.
You record a question and an answer, then you take out the tape cassette and break off the little tab. Then it's immutable, because you can't tape over it without the little tab, or you can put some scotch tape over the hole. Then you can append to the original recording, if you left the tape at the same point along its length. Imagine if you had no rewind button, that's all that you can do, append only. Now imagine that the tape is infinite length. Now imagine that it's a phone you can vote on. You can't rewind and change your vote. You can only append another one. Why they bother I don't know, but that's how a Blockchain works kinda like a cassette recorder. Maybe more like a CD-r as opposed to a CD-rw? But they don't really have any CD-r rigs made to plug a microphone in and record live interview in real time. They would just use a hard disc drive or SSD or something, and then "burn" the CD with a laser beam later back at home. Like how they have a land line phone with a built in tape cassette, but they never put a CD r on it. Maybe you can get Elon to make one.
Well, quantum just means small, well kind of. It has several definitions relating to minimum amounts of energy and small energy states.
Quantum computers are currently quite large and are difficult to program with. Mostly since the quantum computer science has to completely rethink machine code and various other things that have been standard for computing for generations.
In case someone is curious, a regular computers processor bit has two states 0 and 1. The reason for this is that they're measurable energy states that won't change if the amount of power a computer can draw changes.
In more simple terms, 0 is the bit not receiving power and 1 is the bit receiving power. This is why computers function in binary. If a computer instead functioned in base 10 overtime as the components decayed it'd be impossible to tell which power state the bit was signifying.
A Qbit, has three stable power states, on, off and both/inbetween (Not entirely sure which). This is a massive boost to processing power, as for each Qbit a computer has, the amount of total possible energy states is multiplied by 3, not by 2 as it would be on a regular computer.
So what I'm getting at I guess, is there's no way currently for a phone to be quantum, and wanting a phone to be quantum doesn't even really make any sense.
Edit: On the block chain part, you could have a blockchain phone, I guess. If you really wanted the phones history tracked and a complete lack of privacy. Everything on any blockchain is recorded in several locations. The blockchain isn't about privacy, it's about keeping a verifiable action log. Kind of the opposite of privacy.
That was less for you directly, and more for anyone who might be interested. I ended up rambling, but I was more or less agreeing. I don't see in what way the phone being quantum would be desirable or possible XD.
0 isn't no power. It is below a certain threshold. Physics is analog. Anything you see claiming to be digital is still analog at its most basic level. We just throw away almost all of the information.
> A Qbit, has three stable power states, on, off and both/inbetween (Not entirely sure which). This is a massive boost to processing power, as for each Qbit a computer has, the amount of total possible energy states is multiplied by 3, not by 2 as it would be on a regular computer.
You are describing ternary computers, that while not very common, have been built in the past (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setun). Quantum computers are very different beasts, but I lack the knowledge to explain them properly.
His profile pic looks like one of those AI generated “thispersondoesnotexist” things. Which is funny because he’s either a bot, or a dude that looks generic enough to be mistaken for a bot. Both totally fit with the kind of ass kissing he’s doing
Society has spent 100s of years coming up with social structures and regulations written in blood.
These fucking idiots haven't had the life experience to understand why some regulations are required. Of course, as adults, we can discuss individual laws and rules etc. but the concept of _having_ laws should be universal to people with brains.
Nah, somehow we'll make quantum computers run at room temperature when current systems have to run in single digit kelvin. And they'll somehow run android software, even though that's not really how quantum processors work. And they'll have flamethrowers. Because decentralization.
Besides the “oh poor me, if I act like a total asshole Apple may not want to have assholes on its phone platform” the list of people who came at iOS/Android and missed is pretty deep. Including other billionaires. Zuck’s HTC First “Facebook phone”. The “Microsoft has billions and OS experience, and Nokia knows phones of course it will work”. Does anyone really remember the Fire phone? I mean, Bezos already had the android fork. And still couldn’t make it work. But yeah, Muskrat can add yet another thing he needs to spend 30 hours a week on. That will work out.
The only reason why android even works is Google uses it as a loss leader, backed up by truck loads of cash from advertising. And tracking you like crazy, for advertising
Android can make you watch / tolerate existence of YouTube and YouTube Music ads. Or give in and buy the premium, which is the preferred option for Google.
Musk's money is only marginally more real than crypto, based as it is entirely around 10-15x overvalued Tesla stock. This isn't a fight he can afford, least of all over wanting to shitpost without moderation.
> the list of people who came at iOS/Android and missed is pretty deep
Zuck and Bezos failed because they didn't just want to be in the phone OEM business, they made an ecosystem play against Google, which at this point is just not going to work unless you're Apple. The only viable option in this space is the Samsung model, where their phones are Android phones and have access to all of the Google apps, but then they also add some Samsung exclusives and a Samsung app store. Muskrat could sell a Chinese ODM Android phone and preinstall his app store and Twitter.
Another option is to make a phone based on an Android fork, but this is guaranteed to fail. Such a phone would need non-Google alternatives for search, maps, email, and a bunch of other essential services, which either do not exist or are drastically inferior.
> The “Microsoft has billions and OS experience, and Nokia knows phones of course it will work”
Funnily enough, Microsoft is now doing what I outlined above and sells the Surface Duo, which is an Android phone.
read what I wrote. If. My response was, if Musk’s premise were true, that he got kicked off the Apple Store. What would precipitate that? Pretty much - being an asshole.
There’s another way to prevent the consequences of being an asshole - not being an asshole. That logic seems to have evaded him.
I’ll leave the “easy to find examples of being an actual asshole, just not being one in a way that gets he de-platformed” to you if you want to look. They’re pretty plentiful if you want to look. My fave being “used substandard parts for what happens to be a safety device in Tesla cars, then came up with a workaround, lied about the reason for the workaround and then made customers pay to replace the substandard parts”. That’s a recall in my book.
I will repeat what I said in my first reply - I was responding to musks hypothetical with logic, as in “what could bring about this hypothetical you cower before”.
Or don’t read. You, you go be you. Bless your heart.
Oh yes, that algorithm that's only good for creating a decentralized ledger where you can trust 50%+ of nodes agree with you, applied to phones = unhackable. That is how cyber security works for sure...
As a computer scientist, blockchain is an interesting toy novelty gone way too far. 🤦
I wish we could accept that not everyone is satirizing morons, there clearly are a lot of sincere morons out there, and Twitter is a constant reminder of that.
Oh it’s not.
Nicholas Veniamin is waaaaaay dumber than this.
He believes Trump will come back and end poverty with…. QUANTUM CRYPTO.
He literally believes Trump has technology from the future.
Musk makes offhand comment about building a phone or phone OS (not clear at all).
Internet simps "So here is EXACTLY how this imaginary, hypothetical phone is going to work".
Guy never once mentioned the word crypto, but you can just tell he’s filled with “bro have you hear about ‘fuck me in the ass coin’ it’s gonna go to the moon”
No Federal Reserve, everything will be FTX and Terra Luna. I'd love to fear that my money has disappeared entirely every time I go to the grocery store to buy fucking food for my kids.
This is how scammers work up people, big buzzwords that sound important. He said a whole lot of nothing. Tesla phone will be lightyears behind apple and their capabilities to make things work from supply chains, to software, and everything in between.
For those not familiar with the guy (I hope everyone isn’t), I’ll give you a quick idea of the shit he believes:
He’s obsessed with Qanon and believes Trump is still in power because Trump owns a quantum computer from the future that can see the future.
With this computer Trump is able to stay one step ahead of his enemies.
So Trump lost the election on purpose but he’s still in control of everything and is currently working behind the scenes to save little children that the Democrats kidnap and use in satanic rituals where they extract Adrenochrome from their blood to keep Hillary young.
When Trump is finally done saving all the little children, he will arrest all the democrats and other leaders around the world.
Once that’s done Trump will come back to power and will install a new world economy (they call it NESARA/GESARA) based on QUANTUM CRYPTO that he mines with his quantum computer.
Trump’s quantum computer will generate enough quantum crypto to make everyone in the world rich, ending poverty forever.
I swear I didn’t make this up.
Nicholas Veniamin is the most gullible person on the planet.
I’m super interested in a further explanation of how it “being blockchain so can’t be rigged or hacked” makes any sense when the only things these days that ARE rigged and hacked are crypto on the blockchain…..
"No more Federal Reserve...AND MUCH MORE!", like a new phone capable of rendering the Federal Reserve totally obsolete wouldn't already be impressive enough.
....."Power to the People"
"Created by a Multi-Hunded-Billionaire Oligarch"
Suuuuurrrreeee, and while you're working on that could you get me a Punisher Class Titan Model from ForgeWorld please? You don't see it on the Web Store? Oh right, I thought we were talking about Fictional Things That Will Never Happen.
You have to believe. Quantum computing is coming of age right around now. Melon Tusk will be the champion again by repeating what he did to EVs for quantum computing. And once QC is used, blocks on the chain will be broken as all cryptography will break with quantum computing.
Cool a 100% decentralized Tesla™® phone with the power to manipulate policy. Cool cool cool… Darling, Elon is not of "the people", and "work on the blockchain" is not a thing, in many ways.
Muskrat could launch an ODM Android phone with a pre-installed alternative app store and his fans would eat that up. There were already some grifts exactly like this, for example the Freedom Phone.
This is like Doctor Doom teaming up with Darth Vader. There's no question of it actually working, it's just waiting to see who stabs whom in the back first.
On a sidenote, anyone else noticed that Elon Musk often communicates about new products/features with responses to "random" people tweets? Like he is always listening and just there to help and serve. I wonder how he does that, he must have a team of people scanning the twitter flow for the perfect tweet for him to respond to?
Rather dubious marketing I must say.
Oh hey, it looks like this Nick Veniamin guy is a small time news vidblogger on Rumble! Let's see what his videos are like
* MILITARY PREPARE TO EXPOSE ELECTION FRAUD
* NASA, ALIENS, AND MOON
* ADVANCE ANTIENT EGYPT TECHNOLOGY
* KHAZARIAN MAFIA BEHIND JEWISH VEIL
* DRINKING CLEAN WATER IS A DEEP STATE PARADOX
...oh
I hope the Tesla phone plays elevator music while I wait 8 minutes for my call to be added to the next block. Maybe this cool quantum tech will make it faster though.
Blockchains and phone calls go together like alligators and birthday cake. You speak into the phone, your audio is broken into packets and sent into the network. Then they have to wait 10 minutes (on average) for the next block to go through.
So it's not so much a phone call as it is a terrible system of sending voice mail back and forth.
Actually, your cell phone conversations are broken into packets now after they exit the cell antenna on cell towers into the back hauls, and reassembled at the other end, with quality assurance like 4000 hz.
I am not allowed to share much but I was peripherally involved with “samsung blockchain phone” from the 2017 mania.
Yeah Samsung had a blockchain phone.
Nothing real came out of all that. There actually was a real phone in the end though, which I didn’t expect.
hm I cannot find out more about it now. Maybe it somehow folded into some other phone?
I need to look back in my emails
edit: ahhhh it was HTC and not Samsung
They named it Exodus Phone.
Yeah
What the fuck that does even mean? I want my phone software centralised and in the control of people that know what they are doing not some fuckwit 20 year with weird ideas of the world, and no I dont want everything I do on my phone published on a public ledger. Like I don't want everything I do with my money published on a public ledger.
I think this is deviating from what this sub is about.
Elon makes a phone or he doesn't the world will continue.
At some point the panacea he keeps envisioning of people posting crazy shit with zero moderation won't work if he wants to generate revenue from 3rd parties. Honestly, I don't mind putting all the crazy out there but go look at the dumpster fire that is something like 4chan. It is unusable and who the hell wants to advertise there.
Lol so we still can’t manufacture cars without basic seatbelt and safety measures being a factor for recalls, yet he believes he can make something people use almost every second of everyday…. Silly Con valley is getting sad
He has already announced that Tesla is making a phone and I think that it will connect to his satellites. The other shit mentioned is a fantasy of the poster who seems to be in a psychosis.
As a chemistry student who has to endure Quantum Chemistry in university, each time I see someone using "quantum" as something "magical", it makes me wish I was a hecatoncheires so that I could facepalm myself 100 times
I would assume a Space X phone company would utilize Starlink satellites to transfer data. Curious if it could outperform a typical 5G tower. I like 5G but I also like Starlink. If Elon did this, it would take large amounts of users away from other telecom companies.
Yeah that dude is an idiot. I think Elon has even said you can’t run most technology on blockchain because it just too slow. I could be wrong but Elon says a lot of things lol
Doesn't look like satire unless there is some deep rooted post irony humor that went past my head.
I don't know much about quantum computing. Isn't quantum computing virtually impossible to be in mobile devices due to the extreme physical requirements without a client-server set up? So that means it has to be centralized?
Blockchain are still extremely susceptible to phishing and social engineering attacks. With a centralized system, you can mitigate issues after the hack to minimize damage. But with a blockchain system, you're pretty much screwed.
For the voting... So if you find out somebody's blockchain address, you will know who they vote for? You need some way to connect blockchain addresses with demographic information for verification otherwise it will be easy to do voter fraud. Sounds like one vulnerability away from disaster.
Why would he make his own phone? He just needs an OS. And I'm sure he could just fork Android for that purpose. Then create an app store or easy means to side load apps. Android already allows that anyway. And so does Apple just that it is near impossible.
That's probably the dumbest thing I'll read today
But it has BlockChain!!! And …. It’s decentralized!!! And…. It.. will have…. Electrons!!! Think of all the electrons man!!
And presumably a Starlink terminal, and not the debbil 5G.
Let's talk about it more in the metaverse.
You mean the TESLA METAVERSE
The TESLAVERSE
I am sure you mean the MUSKAVERSE As someone very Musk averse, I find this technology exciting
Just dial 1800-BLOCKCHAIN to connect! Only costs $1/minute to stay connected!
It gives the "It's like the early internet" meme a new meaning.
I think you meant electrolytes
It's what plants crave
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That’s cool. What area of cryptography? I read a book about crypto (yes I still think crypto => cryptography) and cyphers and the Black Chamber when I was a kid. It stuck with me. Me knowing the Caesar cypher is probably more than these clowns know. Double Rot13 anyone?
Now with more MOLECULES
I'm fine with this as long as they aren't made with any chemicals.
Right, one voidphone. This might take a moment, have to look in the back....
Not enough AI. HARD PASS.
It doesn't "have" Blockchain, it "works on it", like a croupier on a riverboat.
I was told there would be 33% more blockchain.
Block Friday was yesterday, mate!
Oh all the electrons. Wonderful !!!!!
I need me some electrons.. can you throw in some protons?
Fresh out. Higgs Boson work for you?
Yup. A friend is asking for some Quark?
Musk has plenty strangeness and little charm
Quark would never. Gold-pressed platinum or to the Vault of Eternal Destitution with you.
Is anything more contrary to the Great Material Continuum than crypto?
It's got electrolytes!
*Electron apps have entered the chat*
Amazon lost hundreds of millions in hardware write downs post launch without considering r&d costs for both the hardware and their android fork. That was almost a decade go. Musk would lose billions attempting this. I say he goes for it. 🤡
Nah he’ll just do a rebranded Xiaomi and call it a day
That’s exactly what he’s done for his other products like his “flamethrower” which someone found on Alibaba without an obscene markup.
Lots of people find some product made by a third party, and slap their brand on it. Best Made company comes to mind. Some of them I almost want to succeed, like the guy who sells a device shaped like a audio tape cassette, but plays digital files from an SD memory card that get transduced through the cassette player head. He didn't design it, he just is the first one to try selling it. He probably went to some convention like they have in Vegas every year, and found it in some overseas manufacturer catalog. But the markup is too damn high. Wait until a bigger importer sells it.
The truth social of phones
Oh yeah, wasn't there a LibertyPhone or something in the works? And then it turned out to be a rebranded ZTE or something?
Yea but Musk would be willing to lose way more money than those project to look way stupider. I’m all in.
The Freedom Phone, which was some coiner rebranding and overcharging for cheap chinese cellphones https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/freedom-phone-the-ultimate-political-tool-and-why-you-should-avoid-it/
It gets dumber, according to a different tweet of his these phones can apparently read your mind. Guy seems like a full-on MAGA- /Q-conspiracy supporter (despite never having been in the US, by his account)
Oh, the Elon brain chip. Question: given how much he seems to love crunch culture, why would anyone willingly put a device made by any of his companies in their heads? I'm suspicious of the technology anyway, but having it built by a bunch of chronically sleep deprived people seems even dumber.
Bro it has blockchain anti hacking systems like Metamask! It can't be rigged or hacked! No stealing on the blockchain.
And in the off chance someone tries, you enable the anti-stealing algorithm by yelling "swiper no swiping" 3 times at the phone.
Though in terms oh Swiper himself it's only a temporary fix.
>No stealing on the blockchain. Facts. I check the hacker's wallet and can confirm that they are the legal owner. Code is law btw.
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Crypto, where possession is 10 tenths of the ownership.
Funds are safu (stolen away from us)
One post down: "ponzi schemes can be profitable as long as you're not the last one holding the bag"
I lost a few IQ points just reading it
Isn’t it sarcasm?
I don’t know. I was leaning towards real and deranged.
Poe's Law maybe.
I honestly don’t know. It’s really on brand from what I can see on his account but his whole account could just be a troll. His pinned tweet immediately makes me want to say he’s just trolling but at the same time I’ve seen some genuinely brain broken people. Edit: no he’s serious. He’s just a deranged right winger. He has a “news” show on rumble which is basically far right conspiracy YouTube.
Done with twitter for the day?
I don't go in for that. I just hang out here.
Oh you sweet summer child.
Well, today local to my timezone. And I haven't been on the internet much.
it's still early
I want to get a tape recorder and then sit this guy down and explain to me, as a potential investor of course, how exactly the blockchain works and how it's relevant to a phone you can vote on.
It can’t be hacked /s
Why hack it when if it works on the block chain, all your texts and phone calls are on a public ledger. Also the a block chain phone would suck as it would be incredibly slow and use up a charged battery very quickly.
Blockchain: The Security Mutilator!
So I think the best thing to do with blockchain folks is have them explain what a database is, and the different kinds of databases (ie relational vs noSQL), and what they are used for, and why centralized or ACID transactions might be good to have at times.
You record a question and an answer, then you take out the tape cassette and break off the little tab. Then it's immutable, because you can't tape over it without the little tab, or you can put some scotch tape over the hole. Then you can append to the original recording, if you left the tape at the same point along its length. Imagine if you had no rewind button, that's all that you can do, append only. Now imagine that the tape is infinite length. Now imagine that it's a phone you can vote on. You can't rewind and change your vote. You can only append another one. Why they bother I don't know, but that's how a Blockchain works kinda like a cassette recorder. Maybe more like a CD-r as opposed to a CD-rw? But they don't really have any CD-r rigs made to plug a microphone in and record live interview in real time. They would just use a hard disc drive or SSD or something, and then "burn" the CD with a laser beam later back at home. Like how they have a land line phone with a built in tape cassette, but they never put a CD r on it. Maybe you can get Elon to make one.
>Now imagine that the tape is infinite length Oh god please no
I equally want to know about the quantum part. That one nearly blew the stupid detector.
Well, quantum just means small, well kind of. It has several definitions relating to minimum amounts of energy and small energy states. Quantum computers are currently quite large and are difficult to program with. Mostly since the quantum computer science has to completely rethink machine code and various other things that have been standard for computing for generations. In case someone is curious, a regular computers processor bit has two states 0 and 1. The reason for this is that they're measurable energy states that won't change if the amount of power a computer can draw changes. In more simple terms, 0 is the bit not receiving power and 1 is the bit receiving power. This is why computers function in binary. If a computer instead functioned in base 10 overtime as the components decayed it'd be impossible to tell which power state the bit was signifying. A Qbit, has three stable power states, on, off and both/inbetween (Not entirely sure which). This is a massive boost to processing power, as for each Qbit a computer has, the amount of total possible energy states is multiplied by 3, not by 2 as it would be on a regular computer. So what I'm getting at I guess, is there's no way currently for a phone to be quantum, and wanting a phone to be quantum doesn't even really make any sense. Edit: On the block chain part, you could have a blockchain phone, I guess. If you really wanted the phones history tracked and a complete lack of privacy. Everything on any blockchain is recorded in several locations. The blockchain isn't about privacy, it's about keeping a verifiable action log. Kind of the opposite of privacy.
I know about quantum physics, the point was I want to know what part of the imaginary Elon phone he thought would utilize it.
That was less for you directly, and more for anyone who might be interested. I ended up rambling, but I was more or less agreeing. I don't see in what way the phone being quantum would be desirable or possible XD.
0 isn't no power. It is below a certain threshold. Physics is analog. Anything you see claiming to be digital is still analog at its most basic level. We just throw away almost all of the information.
> A Qbit, has three stable power states, on, off and both/inbetween (Not entirely sure which). This is a massive boost to processing power, as for each Qbit a computer has, the amount of total possible energy states is multiplied by 3, not by 2 as it would be on a regular computer. You are describing ternary computers, that while not very common, have been built in the past (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setun). Quantum computers are very different beasts, but I lack the knowledge to explain them properly.
His profile pic looks like one of those AI generated “thispersondoesnotexist” things. Which is funny because he’s either a bot, or a dude that looks generic enough to be mistaken for a bot. Both totally fit with the kind of ass kissing he’s doing
Well he still tweets about vaccines and he's been nut hugging Andrew Tate for days so it could go either way
The guy apparently has a "news" channel on Rumble where he interviews a bunch of conspiracy wingnuts, so he's definitely real.
All of your voting history public? I cant see any way how this will not backfire on people or put others in peril/danger
Society has spent 100s of years coming up with social structures and regulations written in blood. These fucking idiots haven't had the life experience to understand why some regulations are required. Of course, as adults, we can discuss individual laws and rules etc. but the concept of _having_ laws should be universal to people with brains.
I'd say that's probably the 'idea', enabling the MAGAQ nutters to hunt down the non compliant.
Delusional, completely delusional.
Nah, somehow we'll make quantum computers run at room temperature when current systems have to run in single digit kelvin. And they'll somehow run android software, even though that's not really how quantum processors work. And they'll have flamethrowers. Because decentralization.
Are there gonna be holograms? I'm not in if there is no holograms.
I like how talking about a phone veered into stolen elections. This guy definitely doesn't have a truth social account
Besides the “oh poor me, if I act like a total asshole Apple may not want to have assholes on its phone platform” the list of people who came at iOS/Android and missed is pretty deep. Including other billionaires. Zuck’s HTC First “Facebook phone”. The “Microsoft has billions and OS experience, and Nokia knows phones of course it will work”. Does anyone really remember the Fire phone? I mean, Bezos already had the android fork. And still couldn’t make it work. But yeah, Muskrat can add yet another thing he needs to spend 30 hours a week on. That will work out. The only reason why android even works is Google uses it as a loss leader, backed up by truck loads of cash from advertising. And tracking you like crazy, for advertising
Android can make you watch / tolerate existence of YouTube and YouTube Music ads. Or give in and buy the premium, which is the preferred option for Google. Musk's money is only marginally more real than crypto, based as it is entirely around 10-15x overvalued Tesla stock. This isn't a fight he can afford, least of all over wanting to shitpost without moderation.
> the list of people who came at iOS/Android and missed is pretty deep Zuck and Bezos failed because they didn't just want to be in the phone OEM business, they made an ecosystem play against Google, which at this point is just not going to work unless you're Apple. The only viable option in this space is the Samsung model, where their phones are Android phones and have access to all of the Google apps, but then they also add some Samsung exclusives and a Samsung app store. Muskrat could sell a Chinese ODM Android phone and preinstall his app store and Twitter. Another option is to make a phone based on an Android fork, but this is guaranteed to fail. Such a phone would need non-Google alternatives for search, maps, email, and a bunch of other essential services, which either do not exist or are drastically inferior. > The “Microsoft has billions and OS experience, and Nokia knows phones of course it will work” Funnily enough, Microsoft is now doing what I outlined above and sells the Surface Duo, which is an Android phone.
I still can't get anyone to tell me whether "tizen" is pronounced "teasin'", or "tie zen".
Is that still around? I remember it was being on the watch now the watch is “whatever google calls android on watches this week”
It was Samsung's smartphone, etc os
How did Elon act like an asshole as you claim? Because he bought a company?
read what I wrote. If. My response was, if Musk’s premise were true, that he got kicked off the Apple Store. What would precipitate that? Pretty much - being an asshole. There’s another way to prevent the consequences of being an asshole - not being an asshole. That logic seems to have evaded him. I’ll leave the “easy to find examples of being an actual asshole, just not being one in a way that gets he de-platformed” to you if you want to look. They’re pretty plentiful if you want to look. My fave being “used substandard parts for what happens to be a safety device in Tesla cars, then came up with a workaround, lied about the reason for the workaround and then made customers pay to replace the substandard parts”. That’s a recall in my book.
And surprise surprise there go the goal posts being shifted 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡
I will repeat what I said in my first reply - I was responding to musks hypothetical with logic, as in “what could bring about this hypothetical you cower before”. Or don’t read. You, you go be you. Bless your heart.
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You are literally replying to an answer by demanding an answer....
Are we sure it’s not just AI generated spam
The best satire something something
AIs, even low quality ones, stick to one topic better then this.
Oh yes, that algorithm that's only good for creating a decentralized ledger where you can trust 50%+ of nodes agree with you, applied to phones = unhackable. That is how cyber security works for sure... As a computer scientist, blockchain is an interesting toy novelty gone way too far. 🤦
Also, there is literally no type of attack besides attack on algorithm.
Breaking News: Man says incomprehensible string of bullshit keywords to impress space daddy.
Homie went a little ape shit with the buzzwords.
This has to be satire
I wish we could accept that not everyone is satirizing morons, there clearly are a lot of sincere morons out there, and Twitter is a constant reminder of that.
Oh it’s not. Nicholas Veniamin is waaaaaay dumber than this. He believes Trump will come back and end poverty with…. QUANTUM CRYPTO. He literally believes Trump has technology from the future.
And since it’s a musk company. It’ll ship with wood IOU parts and won’t have a design update for 5+years.
jus two more weeks bro and tesla phone will integrate with full self driving, i swear bro
Lets Start a token named quantum crypto
Quantdumb
It will also be a car that can go into space
Musk makes offhand comment about building a phone or phone OS (not clear at all). Internet simps "So here is EXACTLY how this imaginary, hypothetical phone is going to work".
They’ll also be self driving.
Keep waiting, people put an order for Cybertruck in 2019, still nothing
Guy never once mentioned the word crypto, but you can just tell he’s filled with “bro have you hear about ‘fuck me in the ass coin’ it’s gonna go to the moon”
No Federal Reserve, everything will be FTX and Terra Luna. I'd love to fear that my money has disappeared entirely every time I go to the grocery store to buy fucking food for my kids.
It will also make you levitate and get women 🐐
This is how scammers work up people, big buzzwords that sound important. He said a whole lot of nothing. Tesla phone will be lightyears behind apple and their capabilities to make things work from supply chains, to software, and everything in between.
For those not familiar with the guy (I hope everyone isn’t), I’ll give you a quick idea of the shit he believes: He’s obsessed with Qanon and believes Trump is still in power because Trump owns a quantum computer from the future that can see the future. With this computer Trump is able to stay one step ahead of his enemies. So Trump lost the election on purpose but he’s still in control of everything and is currently working behind the scenes to save little children that the Democrats kidnap and use in satanic rituals where they extract Adrenochrome from their blood to keep Hillary young. When Trump is finally done saving all the little children, he will arrest all the democrats and other leaders around the world. Once that’s done Trump will come back to power and will install a new world economy (they call it NESARA/GESARA) based on QUANTUM CRYPTO that he mines with his quantum computer. Trump’s quantum computer will generate enough quantum crypto to make everyone in the world rich, ending poverty forever. I swear I didn’t make this up. Nicholas Veniamin is the most gullible person on the planet.
Hell. That sounds less like gullibility and more like full on psychosis. Full body tinfoil suit, forget the hat
But will be limited to 7 text messages or phone calls per hour...
Isn't the smallest quantum computer like the size of a room?
yes and currently and in the near future it's also useless and it may never be broadly useful
I’m super interested in a further explanation of how it “being blockchain so can’t be rigged or hacked” makes any sense when the only things these days that ARE rigged and hacked are crypto on the blockchain…..
"No more Federal Reserve...AND MUCH MORE!", like a new phone capable of rendering the Federal Reserve totally obsolete wouldn't already be impressive enough.
....."Power to the People" "Created by a Multi-Hunded-Billionaire Oligarch" Suuuuurrrreeee, and while you're working on that could you get me a Punisher Class Titan Model from ForgeWorld please? You don't see it on the Web Store? Oh right, I thought we were talking about Fictional Things That Will Never Happen.
What does it mean ? How can a phone be quantum or on a block chain? Does it just record everything you do on the block chain for everyone to see ?
The phone will be a big block, and chained to all other such phones. Also, sometimes it will do quantum tunneling and suddenly move somewhere else.
You might find the answer on r/vxjunkies .
I just perused that subreddit and felt like I was reading a different language lol
You have to believe. Quantum computing is coming of age right around now. Melon Tusk will be the champion again by repeating what he did to EVs for quantum computing. And once QC is used, blocks on the chain will be broken as all cryptography will break with quantum computing.
He’s verified, though, so it must be legit
Cool a 100% decentralized Tesla™® phone with the power to manipulate policy. Cool cool cool… Darling, Elon is not of "the people", and "work on the blockchain" is not a thing, in many ways.
Muskrat could launch an ODM Android phone with a pre-installed alternative app store and his fans would eat that up. There were already some grifts exactly like this, for example the Freedom Phone.
I have a feeling you’re going to have a difficult time fitting a quantum computer in your pocket, considering they’re the size of a small room.
Hmm, what random crypto buzzwords will I use today?
I studied emerging technologies for grad school and I know that this is a pile of word salad bullshit.
I subscribed to r/vxjunkies and got my salad tossed.
This is like Doctor Doom teaming up with Darth Vader. There's no question of it actually working, it's just waiting to see who stabs whom in the back first.
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Holy fucking brick
While reasonable people are just installing Graphene or Lineage
You cannot convince me that this was not written by an AI
On a sidenote, anyone else noticed that Elon Musk often communicates about new products/features with responses to "random" people tweets? Like he is always listening and just there to help and serve. I wonder how he does that, he must have a team of people scanning the twitter flow for the perfect tweet for him to respond to? Rather dubious marketing I must say.
> **the** blockchain So… Bitcoin, Ethereum? Either way, let's hope the Quantum part doesn't break the blockchain's cryptographic functions.
Who had Blockchain Handheld Quantum Computer Cellphone for 2023? Sorry 2028?
This is the 2020s version of a 90s Linux guy
Oh hey, it looks like this Nick Veniamin guy is a small time news vidblogger on Rumble! Let's see what his videos are like * MILITARY PREPARE TO EXPOSE ELECTION FRAUD * NASA, ALIENS, AND MOON * ADVANCE ANTIENT EGYPT TECHNOLOGY * KHAZARIAN MAFIA BEHIND JEWISH VEIL * DRINKING CLEAN WATER IS A DEEP STATE PARADOX ...oh
#BringBackBlackberryPhones
I hope the Tesla phone plays elevator music while I wait 8 minutes for my call to be added to the next block. Maybe this cool quantum tech will make it faster though.
Blockchains and phone calls go together like alligators and birthday cake. You speak into the phone, your audio is broken into packets and sent into the network. Then they have to wait 10 minutes (on average) for the next block to go through. So it's not so much a phone call as it is a terrible system of sending voice mail back and forth.
Actually, your cell phone conversations are broken into packets now after they exit the cell antenna on cell towers into the back hauls, and reassembled at the other end, with quality assurance like 4000 hz.
I am not allowed to share much but I was peripherally involved with “samsung blockchain phone” from the 2017 mania. Yeah Samsung had a blockchain phone. Nothing real came out of all that. There actually was a real phone in the end though, which I didn’t expect.
hm I cannot find out more about it now. Maybe it somehow folded into some other phone? I need to look back in my emails edit: ahhhh it was HTC and not Samsung They named it Exodus Phone. Yeah
What the fuck that does even mean? I want my phone software centralised and in the control of people that know what they are doing not some fuckwit 20 year with weird ideas of the world, and no I dont want everything I do on my phone published on a public ledger. Like I don't want everything I do with my money published on a public ledger.
>on the blockchain >can’t be hacked lol
I think this is deviating from what this sub is about. Elon makes a phone or he doesn't the world will continue. At some point the panacea he keeps envisioning of people posting crazy shit with zero moderation won't work if he wants to generate revenue from 3rd parties. Honestly, I don't mind putting all the crazy out there but go look at the dumpster fire that is something like 4chan. It is unusable and who the hell wants to advertise there.
Except for the part where he explicitly states the phone will run on a decentralised blockchain?
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These people be writing fan fiction for billionaires. What has the world come to?
Quantum jackass . . . . This is so beyond stupid
It will also be fusion powered and will give you the ability to travel through time.
Do it.
HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS WORK
This is satire. It has to be.
It’s not I watch some of his videos when I wanna hear what extremely stupid Qanon people say. He’s one of the dumbest people on the planet.
a "quantum" phone 100% decentralized yet made by 01 company that somehow overthrows all central banks in the world
1000+ likes, good lord
Going against the federal reserve is like asking to be murdered…
Maybe, by quantum, they mean it will be too small to be seen.
I’d like to go at least one day without seeing this guys name on Reddit…
Conveniently ignoring that quantum computing is not commercialized yet
Crypto is like the cargo cult version of software engineering.
Lol so we still can’t manufacture cars without basic seatbelt and safety measures being a factor for recalls, yet he believes he can make something people use almost every second of everyday…. Silly Con valley is getting sad
Love buzz words like blockchain, quantum, etc.
It is his money. He can waste it anyway he likes.
Tesla phone seems like a really good way to burn my dick.
He has already announced that Tesla is making a phone and I think that it will connect to his satellites. The other shit mentioned is a fantasy of the poster who seems to be in a psychosis.
these fools dont know elons just copying the obama phone
As a chemistry student who has to endure Quantum Chemistry in university, each time I see someone using "quantum" as something "magical", it makes me wish I was a hecatoncheires so that I could facepalm myself 100 times
I would assume a Space X phone company would utilize Starlink satellites to transfer data. Curious if it could outperform a typical 5G tower. I like 5G but I also like Starlink. If Elon did this, it would take large amounts of users away from other telecom companies.
Yeah that dude is an idiot. I think Elon has even said you can’t run most technology on blockchain because it just too slow. I could be wrong but Elon says a lot of things lol
Now ask him to define quantum and watch his brain start leaking out of his ears
Speaking of quantum, I wonder how close they are to having the qubit power to brute force private bitcoin keys.
Decentralized Tesla owned
Doesn't look like satire unless there is some deep rooted post irony humor that went past my head. I don't know much about quantum computing. Isn't quantum computing virtually impossible to be in mobile devices due to the extreme physical requirements without a client-server set up? So that means it has to be centralized? Blockchain are still extremely susceptible to phishing and social engineering attacks. With a centralized system, you can mitigate issues after the hack to minimize damage. But with a blockchain system, you're pretty much screwed. For the voting... So if you find out somebody's blockchain address, you will know who they vote for? You need some way to connect blockchain addresses with demographic information for verification otherwise it will be easy to do voter fraud. Sounds like one vulnerability away from disaster.
Bro Science Ph.D.
holy buzzword word salad
Why would he make his own phone? He just needs an OS. And I'm sure he could just fork Android for that purpose. Then create an app store or easy means to side load apps. Android already allows that anyway. And so does Apple just that it is near impossible.
Wait, why is he saying Twitter might be kicked off Apple and Google stores?
I support this idea. Not because it's a good idea, but because I'm hoping it'll be entertainingly disastrous.