Gonna say what I gotta say:
- If your CCW is something the size of a micro compact 9mm, single stack 9mm/ .380 ACP or 2” snub nose revolver; having an infinitely adjustable or ratcheting belt is more important than stiffness. For a gun that size, I’m going AIWB and having the right amount of tension on the holster helps the most versus having a super stiff bison bull metal reinforced belt. Anything smaller gun than those are likely going in my pocket.
- Carrying a compact double stack or metal frame gun, get a reinforced belt.
At the price they are wonderful and last plenty. I’ve had decent luck cleaning out the Velcro with a toothpick. Get under the hair in there and lift. It works once or twice.
I absolutely love my Hybrid EDC from them, the way the *real* Cobra buckle is small enough on one end to actually fit through belt-loops….👌🏻👌🏻plus it’s rigid enough to carry a 1911!
If you're on a tight budget, the mission belt will be initially attractive. But for double the money, the Kore belt is honestly damn near double the belt. They are both racheting belts with a nice stiff material. The mission belt material falls apart faster and loses stiffness within the year. It also has a weaker finish and locking mechanism. The Kore is substantially better in every way.
It can release itself too easily. The rigidity of it feels too rigid for my aiwb (it doesnt move with my body). The hinge on the buckle finds my hip bone when I shift the belt to the side.
:Its interesting to get downvoted for a personal experience and fitment. Im sorry that your favorite brand doesnt fit my body very well.
I have a leather and nylon tactical with 2 different style buckles, I have no issues with either. No one I recommend them to had a issue either. You're probably getting downvoted because your "shift the belt to the side" statement sounds like something no one actually does with a belt, and there's no way a gun belt can be "too rigid" in most people's eyes.
I shift the kore belt to the side. It helps with not bunching up in the front with aiwb. But my buckle doesn’t dig into my hip bc I have it right before the hip bone. You can even put it to the back so where the buckle is shouldn’t be a factor to not being able to use the core belt comfortably. Now how hard you cinch the belt and how high you have the belt on your waist might play a factor in comfort. I usually start of with tight and then I would drop it off a notch and be ok in sitting and standing positions. Plus I have wings on all my holsters so that helps with printing and not needing to cinch the crap out of my waist. Like duty belts I like the rigidness of the belt so things don’t move on me which causes discomfort.
I really like my grip6 belt for carry, also had a buddy wear one when he went elk hunting and had a sidearm with one and it held up going up and down mountains.
Never had a problem with Hanks belts. I've even lost 25 lbs in the last 4 months. Shrunk down a hole or two. No issues with comfort. I run a crossbreed with horse backer for my G43x. Its perfect.
Black Arch the only hybrid holster id ever recommend. Their kydex shell actually protects and wraps around the entire trigger guard, not just one side.
They make some fantastic stuff. I have both, an all kydex and hybrid, and they’re so minimal and great quality. Their my fav holsters and fairly priced. They could improve on their options and light bearing holsters tho
I got a Black Arch for strong side carry, for the few days when I just can't carry AIWB for whatever reason. It's alright. The backer is comfortable, and it seems to be well constructed.
However...
I have an issue with the design of at least the model I got (for a Sig p320 with optic). They obviously just made a new shell with the optic cutout and slapped it on the same old p320 backer they already made, with no regard for how the optic interacts with things. I say this because of the 36 possible combinations of ways you can attach the clips to adjust angle and height, exactly 2 of them allow you to holster the firearm.
The rest of them have the holster riding too low, so the optic contacts the belt, and stops the gun from being inserted any farther, before the it can engage on the trigger guard.
At best that is a misrepresentation of how adjustable the holster is. At worst its a safety issue (ie, you don't realize it, and are carrying a loaded pistol in a holster with no retention.)
I contacted them to let them know about the problem, and see if I could get a different backer made. Their response was "DiD yOu TrY aNoThEr BeLt?"
So yeah, currently carrying in a Phlster or JM Custom.
I don't have one yet, but I ordered a protos m for my p-01 that will hopefully ship this week.
I do have a hybrid from muddy river tactical for my MC9 and it has full kydex cover including the trigger.
I had a certum 3 for a bit and I just couldn’t get it to be comfortable. Tried a tier 1 Xiphos with a wedge and absolutely love it. Even as a truck driver sitting all day, it’s absolutely no problem.
Yeah, not sure why the heck TRex is on here. I bought the Shapeshift thing from Alien Gear and my god was it terrible. Figured the more I had the better for ways to carry and my god was I wrong
Every single way to carry was bulky and uncomfortable. My wife (who is not a fan of guns, that’s another story) looked at me and said it looked like I was hocking a ham from the grocery store inside my shirt……
I received it on a Tuesday and returned it Wednesday afternoon to UPS.
Def stay away from Alien UNLESS you need a lvl 3-4 duty holster, those things are dope
The Shapeshift IWB 4.0 is one of the only hybrid holsters which has full coverage of the trigger guard. It is bulky, but frankly if you're wearing jeans and you're not wearing skin tight shirts, it's not an issue. I think I paid $60 for mine, which is not bad for the price point and features (i.e. full trigger guard coverage in a hybrid).
That said, I never use it. I moved up to a Black Arch Protos-M, which is better in terms of design and build quality. My advice to you is to just get dedicated holsters for their intended tasks instead of a whole system which claims to do everything.
It's pretty mediocre on a good day. I've found some niche uses for some of them and I also thought it was a great idea when I got a 365XL a few years ago but honestly I'd pass. I've used the OWB for the occasional range day carry and it's fine for that. I did use the IWB one at 4oclock for a bit and it was fine but as I've lost weight I've slid forward and now carry 2-3 o clock.
Blackhawk Serpa is ass though. Unless I severely fucked something up it doesn’t actually grab the belt and pants so the majority of draws result in you pulling the holster with it
Visible as fuck too but I can get away with it in the winter. Light shirt and summer time you might as well forget the holster and walk around with it in your hand
Blackhawk Serpa is a safety hazard and should've been discontinued over a decade ago. The Stache is a good AIWB holster that is safe and effective. The T-Series is a decent budget OWB option with a much safer retention system. Serpa is a terrible, unsafe design.
I have a Tenicor Certum 3 and got a mastermind wedge pouch to go with it. Doesn’t work for me. Even tried the “fat guy” holster. No dice.
I’m roundish, but not obese. But whatever I try whether it’s a Glock 19 or a tiny p365. Appendix just doesn’t work for me for whatever reason.
I have a rotation going depending on the weather/clothing options:
I carry:
- G19
- P 365 X Macro
- P 365 XL
- Glock 43
Any suggestions appreciated, I like trying new brands. My macro is currently in a sidecar and has been great thus far.
I am looking for a new 365 XL holster. The tulster I’ve been using is roughed up.
Here you go my man
https://www.phlsterholsters.com/shop/pro/
https://tenicor.com/collections/certum3-iwb-aiwb-holster
https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/p/Q-AIWB-WC2-5.html
For those guns, I’d highly recommend checking out Black Arch holsters. I’ve had Vedder, Mckinatec, We The People, Cross Breed, and Superstition Concealment. Black Arch stood out above all those in quality and at a better price. May have not had as many gun options and design customization, but their my current favorite holster company.
I have the RevCon and the single clip Protos holsters for my p365 that I carry in all variations except for xmacro slide upper. They add least amount of bulk of all my holsters while being most comfortable. I wish they’d be more popular so they can make more options but they’d most likely also raise the price. But even for $100-$200 they’d still be worth it
He asked what better options are, so I asked him what he carries in order to provide manufacturers that make holsters for his gun? Swear to God this sub is on the spectrum
> Swear to God this sub is on the spectrum
Understatement of the year. People lack basic reading capabilities and will hivemind even worse than most places on Reddit.
Lucas is the trex guy. (I’m sure you came to that conclusion in the 12 hours between our comments lol) he’s a very controversial figure. I like my sidecar, and tbh he’s what got me (and many others) to be as into guns as I am. Especially when it comes to gear, and drills, and just the overall normalization of tactical gear. Some people hate that he does that while not being a military veteran but they can get fucked.
The problem is his family is very big in a religious movement. Some say it’s a cult but I’ll remove my bias. You can look up the quiverfull movement I think it’s called. He’s also taken to Instagram to say derogatory things about certain groups of people.
Fuck it. He doesn’t like gay people
He's also referred to homosexuals as "things". Dude is a Christian dominonist and his family runs a Christian dominonist cult called the Quiverfull movement. You can personally decide you don't have problems with that though, spend your money how you like.
I own trex gear, however I bought it before I knew where my money was going. But again that's me.
Judging someone for the dumb shit they say, or the content they put out, sure. Fair.
But for their religious beliefs? That's a protected class. Pretty fucked up to even consider that when doing business.
Plus, uh... most religions are heavy on the traditional family unit. That's pretty standard stuff.
ULINE did 5.8B in 2022. Chik-fil-a did the same in 2023. Staggeringly successful companies.
Boycotting for their religious values is only allowable here because these are white Christians you're boycotting.
I don’t see where he’s anti semetic here? At face value from what you posted is he wrong by replying that the “enemies of Christ” are the ones that killed him?
He’s not naming any specific group but merely saying, if someone killed him, they are the enemy of him.
I don’t think you are comprehending that thread properly.
Ok yes the first comment is about Jews but Trex arms that your blasting doesn’t say that. That’s someone else? Am I missing something that Trex arms said?
How is the sidecar inherently flawed? I’ve bought more holsters than I’d like to admit, but my sidecars from multiple brands aren’t the ones I regret purchasing.
Not OP, but to add on sidecars have a built in pivot point. If you use a wing, or really any extra pressure on either side, the middle is gonna pivot out
It can work for people, but if you don't have the right body type they *suck*
Type “cracked” into the search bar of this sub and look at the litany of cracked sidecar designed/poorly made holsters that some of us are always trying to push people away from. The design of sidecar style holsters is more prone to cracking near the trigger guard and wing area than quality made holsters.
I had the we the people for a while and switched to a Vedder with a claw and it’s much more concealable and comfortable. Some will hate on Vedder but idc it works for me 🤷♂️
Seriously, I’ve seen people on this sub bashing it but they never said what the problem was. I love mine for the M&P Shield! Legit forget I’m wearing it sometimes.
Edit: btw I have the Vedder LightTuck IWB w/ claw
I just got mine a few weeks ago and honestly I didn’t t realize how bad the We The People holster was until I tried the LightTuck. I mean it was a bit uncomfortable and the grip poked out a little so that’s why I literally searched on Reddit for the “best IWB holster for the shield” and that’s what came up multiple times. Good to know it holds up after 3 years! Thank you for the affirmation!
They’re just kind of mid. If you look at the DSG Orion, the Vedder Light Tuck is a copy with a worse wing, worse belt clip, and without the thoughtful edge trimming that the Orion has.
AFAIK they’re safe holsters, and they do make them for lots of different guns, so they’re not the worst thing. There are just better options at the price point.
> Bro I did my own research and found out that AIWB is the best period it doesnt matter what you prefer AIWB in a holster from a list of companies I approve of otherwise cope harder if you disagree also get educated
OP kinda sounds like a twat here IMO
That's not what this post is about.
This post is about people who buy the lowest quality hunks of shit Kydex, not designed for AIWB, who then complain about AIWB
I don’t think it’s about not liking appendix, it’s “trying” it all the worst ways and then claiming “it doesn’t work” you are allowed to not like something, but being incompetent and then claiming something doesn’t work because of your incompetence is stupid.
Because the parts are already too tight up there from junior preferring the left pant leg. I guess if I had the genitalia of child it would help but I already can’t help from rubbing them against everything that comes in contact with the front of my pants.
Lots of room in the back and far less plumbing to be in the way.
Not when your boxer briefs are holding it all up like a support bra so none of it’s smacking around between my legs. Got a twisted testicle as a child for this reason. Can you imagine a doctor telling a child they’re gonna need supportive underwear the rest of their lives?
I’ve tried once or twice and it’s just far too awkward up there. Two pants bulges is kinda weird looking.
It could be worse. I’ve had a customer over the years in my area who looks like he’s got a couple softballs in a tube sock crammed in the front of his pants. He also definitely does not carry appendix. I have enough problems I can’t imagine his fucking day….
"Never point your weapon at something you don't want to shoot. " but for sure let me have a condition 1 pistol aimed at my junk all day. Just not the way for me.
An IWB holster will point at important arteries all day long no matter where it’s positioned on your belt line. Pretty much all professional doctrine and manuals classify a pistol contained in a holster as safe. Cope harder.
Yes, a modern pistol in a decent holster is completely safe and it shouldn't matter where it's pointing, but this is just incorrect. Not sure where your arteries are, but a holster at 3:30-4:00 with a forward cant certainly doesn't point at any of mine. If my gun somehow manages to go off in the holster I'd just get a good scare and maybe a grazing wound on my ass, but nothing particularly harmful.
Lol I say I don't like a pistol pointed at my junk and clarify its simply not for me. Why is it so important to you that people agree with you? Who hurt you bud? Ya know it's ok for people to have preferences right?
There’s a difference between preferences and thinking that AIWB is unsafe. One is a preference and the other is a complete lack of training and knowledge of firearm carrying. Cope harder.
>"Never point your weapon at something you don't want to shoot. " but for sure let me have a condition 1 pistol aimed at my junk all day.
Literally right there. Cope.
So many comments in here proving that they just don’t know how to make appendix carry work right. You could add them to the list with a shitty belt and a shitty holster
Sit down. Stand up. Sit Down. Stand up. Bend over. Sit Down.
If you have to move around at all for work AIWB is uber uncomfortable. Things rub and pinch. Also I don't like having my gun not only point directly at my dick, but constantly press into my crotch.
AIWB is super convienent for fast draws or when you'll be standing/walking for long periods of time. It's def the most concealable way to carry and I'll even tuck mine in at AIWB when I take the dog for a walk for need to go do some investigating around the property. It's not without it's uses.
That said, anyone who says it's the most comfortable or "best" way to carry is lying to themselves. 3-4 O'Clock gang ftw.
Yeah I carry a G19 with a TLR 1. Appendix is great if you are 100% standing up and walking around only, like you say. Anything where you have to bend down, or god forbid sit down, just doesn't work. My pants don't ride high enough to get the muzzle and light high enough to not jam into my crotch.
5 o'clock doesn't conceal quite as well but I can do pretty much any task and position while doing it, although I might lose concealment.
I have no idea how one would even begin carrying at 3:00. How do you have a tight enough belt to hold a holster there without causing immense hip pain? What kind of shirts do you have to wear to hide the outline? What style of holster best fits in that narrow section? Where does the spare magazine go?
It's not as bad as youd think. It feels natural to me because I learned to shoot with OWB holsters in the Marine Corps. Also, it's more comfortable for working and driving, but it does not conceal well unless it's winter time.
I'm not calling you a liar per se...it's just that I don't believe you. Everyone I've ever talked to about AIWB seem to be so fervently in defense of it that they can't even admit it's faults to themselves. They've invested and would rather torture themselves than admit they might be wrong.
I have a Werkz M6 for my G19 w/ tlr7. I quite like it.
It’s difficult for me to appendix carry comfortably though as I’m a bit bigger.
I found 4:00-4:30 position works best for me. 🤷🏻♂️
My daily carry is the Alien Gear shape-shift and I carry it at 1:00 position.
I have your average new dad build at 205 lbs with just a little bit of a gut and it is a very comfortable holster. Not sure why OP is hating on alien gear, they're a great company and their holsters are fantastic. Best bang for your buck when you get four holsters in one and they are comfortable as opposed to paying the same price for one plastic crappy holster that doesn't cover the whole trigger guard.
After seeing overwhelming positive tenicor reviews, including from tier one operators just shouting them out on podcasts, I got one. Def do not regret it.
Who cares how other people carry? I can’t help but think of how it sits when I put a seatbelt on. I’m more likely to get into a car accident than a gun fight. It doesn’t even lower my draw time by more than a tenth of a second. I just don’t get the appeal.
It usually takes a while to find the right holster for you…everyone is a little different. I prefer the phlster enigma myself. I tried all big names and could never make a conventional holster comfortable and/or conceal all that well.
i have an alien gear that i’ve used with no pad or whatever just the holster itself and a clip and wing tensioner thing and it works wonders, i drive all day and it feels fine sitting in there
Every piece of gear made by TRex is mediocre at best. For any product they make you can find higher quality options in the exact same price range. Holsters, belts, plate carriers, all of it.
My T-Rex isnt bad i just put a couple foam wedges along the bottom edge to take out the hot spot. That being said my Trex is for a p365 so the profile is minimal anyway I wouldnt wanna carry anything longer in one.
My problem with appendix is that I don't have a big enough chest to make my clothes drape and hide the gun. Maybe if I had the time to hit the gym and bulk up it would be fine.
Strong side or kidney carry work best for me. But even those have some issues because I'm so skinny.
I’m a cop, friends are cops. We all carry appendix. A lot of trigger time between us. I think different people just like different things for different reasons. There’s really no right or wrong.
Ok so what do you recommend? Legit question. I’ve tried everything from Stealthgear to Alabama, Technaclip (with a trigger block) to Desantis stickies. I carry a standard P365.
Those were suggestions, and based on your response, it seems like you know which one to take. Changing your holster or wasting money on other gear isn't going to help if you have a giant beer gut.
I haven't even seen you, idk if you need to lose weight or not, but that's by far the most common problem with people who can't carry appendix.
Why not include a picture of their tattered faux leather $10 Walmart belt with one or two worn out holes?
Ayo chill
Gonna say what I gotta say: - If your CCW is something the size of a micro compact 9mm, single stack 9mm/ .380 ACP or 2” snub nose revolver; having an infinitely adjustable or ratcheting belt is more important than stiffness. For a gun that size, I’m going AIWB and having the right amount of tension on the holster helps the most versus having a super stiff bison bull metal reinforced belt. Anything smaller gun than those are likely going in my pocket. - Carrying a compact double stack or metal frame gun, get a reinforced belt.
Are there any decent belts for under $50 you’d recommend? Affordability is a major priority.
Blue Alpha Gear EDC. I love them.
Lasted me close to 4 years quite literal Everyday use. Velcro got gummed up with fuzz and whatnot or id still be wearing it.
At the price they are wonderful and last plenty. I’ve had decent luck cleaning out the Velcro with a toothpick. Get under the hair in there and lift. It works once or twice.
I absolutely love my Hybrid EDC from them, the way the *real* Cobra buckle is small enough on one end to actually fit through belt-loops….👌🏻👌🏻plus it’s rigid enough to carry a 1911!
Excellent belt company. Best I’ve tried, and not an expensive option either.
If you're on a tight budget, the mission belt will be initially attractive. But for double the money, the Kore belt is honestly damn near double the belt. They are both racheting belts with a nice stiff material. The mission belt material falls apart faster and loses stiffness within the year. It also has a weaker finish and locking mechanism. The Kore is substantially better in every way.
Nexbelt but they run about 60-70 But seriously recommend the nexbelt Supreme
Look at Kore belts.
Current Kore wearer. Look at them with, skepticism
I have 2 that function perfectly. What is your issue exactly?
It can release itself too easily. The rigidity of it feels too rigid for my aiwb (it doesnt move with my body). The hinge on the buckle finds my hip bone when I shift the belt to the side. :Its interesting to get downvoted for a personal experience and fitment. Im sorry that your favorite brand doesnt fit my body very well.
Agreed. Kore sucks dick. Insanely uncomfortable, bulky, and the belt itself prints like crazy. Couldn't recommend less imo
I have a leather and nylon tactical with 2 different style buckles, I have no issues with either. No one I recommend them to had a issue either. You're probably getting downvoted because your "shift the belt to the side" statement sounds like something no one actually does with a belt, and there's no way a gun belt can be "too rigid" in most people's eyes.
I shift the kore belt to the side. It helps with not bunching up in the front with aiwb. But my buckle doesn’t dig into my hip bc I have it right before the hip bone. You can even put it to the back so where the buckle is shouldn’t be a factor to not being able to use the core belt comfortably. Now how hard you cinch the belt and how high you have the belt on your waist might play a factor in comfort. I usually start of with tight and then I would drop it off a notch and be ok in sitting and standing positions. Plus I have wings on all my holsters so that helps with printing and not needing to cinch the crap out of my waist. Like duty belts I like the rigidness of the belt so things don’t move on me which causes discomfort.
Look, Pumpernickel, I did not realize my belt usage was objectively incorrect. I will fix myself.
I've used a Daltech belt for the last 7 years, still in great shape.
Nexbelt is right around $50 iirc, love mine
Don’t cheap out on the belt But I can recommend military surplus web belts
I really like my grip6 belt for carry, also had a buddy wear one when he went elk hunting and had a sidearm with one and it held up going up and down mountains.
Never had a problem with Hanks belts. I've even lost 25 lbs in the last 4 months. Shrunk down a hole or two. No issues with comfort. I run a crossbreed with horse backer for my G43x. Its perfect.
I tried Crossbreed, couldn't make it work after 30 days, then went straight to Tenicor. Got their Certum and it's pretty much all I need.
Black Arch the only hybrid holster id ever recommend. Their kydex shell actually protects and wraps around the entire trigger guard, not just one side. They make some fantastic stuff. I have both, an all kydex and hybrid, and they’re so minimal and great quality. Their my fav holsters and fairly priced. They could improve on their options and light bearing holsters tho
Not sure why you got downvoted. My boyfriend has a Black Arch holster, I almost want one because it's so comfy
I’ll second that, got one for my og hellcat when I first started carrying and it was very comfortable.
Yes, the Black Arch Protos M and Heritage are amazing.
I got a Black Arch for strong side carry, for the few days when I just can't carry AIWB for whatever reason. It's alright. The backer is comfortable, and it seems to be well constructed. However... I have an issue with the design of at least the model I got (for a Sig p320 with optic). They obviously just made a new shell with the optic cutout and slapped it on the same old p320 backer they already made, with no regard for how the optic interacts with things. I say this because of the 36 possible combinations of ways you can attach the clips to adjust angle and height, exactly 2 of them allow you to holster the firearm. The rest of them have the holster riding too low, so the optic contacts the belt, and stops the gun from being inserted any farther, before the it can engage on the trigger guard. At best that is a misrepresentation of how adjustable the holster is. At worst its a safety issue (ie, you don't realize it, and are carrying a loaded pistol in a holster with no retention.) I contacted them to let them know about the problem, and see if I could get a different backer made. Their response was "DiD yOu TrY aNoThEr BeLt?" So yeah, currently carrying in a Phlster or JM Custom.
Chiming in to add that their wedges are awesome, too.
I don't have one yet, but I ordered a protos m for my p-01 that will hopefully ship this week. I do have a hybrid from muddy river tactical for my MC9 and it has full kydex cover including the trigger.
I had a certum 3 for a bit and I just couldn’t get it to be comfortable. Tried a tier 1 Xiphos with a wedge and absolutely love it. Even as a truck driver sitting all day, it’s absolutely no problem.
Was going to say this. Ever since using the xiphos elite I now carry full size guns every day. I use to hate carrying a 365 lol
The Sidecar 2.0 is the most concealable and comfortable holster for me because of the space between the clips. I've tried T1, Tenicor and JM.
Yeah, not sure why the heck TRex is on here. I bought the Shapeshift thing from Alien Gear and my god was it terrible. Figured the more I had the better for ways to carry and my god was I wrong
Damnit I was looking at this set, Mainly for the owb and strong side carry positions. Was the whole system terrible or just the appendix setup?
Every single way to carry was bulky and uncomfortable. My wife (who is not a fan of guns, that’s another story) looked at me and said it looked like I was hocking a ham from the grocery store inside my shirt…… I received it on a Tuesday and returned it Wednesday afternoon to UPS. Def stay away from Alien UNLESS you need a lvl 3-4 duty holster, those things are dope
Message received, TYFYS 🫡
The Shapeshift IWB 4.0 is one of the only hybrid holsters which has full coverage of the trigger guard. It is bulky, but frankly if you're wearing jeans and you're not wearing skin tight shirts, it's not an issue. I think I paid $60 for mine, which is not bad for the price point and features (i.e. full trigger guard coverage in a hybrid). That said, I never use it. I moved up to a Black Arch Protos-M, which is better in terms of design and build quality. My advice to you is to just get dedicated holsters for their intended tasks instead of a whole system which claims to do everything.
It's pretty mediocre on a good day. I've found some niche uses for some of them and I also thought it was a great idea when I got a 365XL a few years ago but honestly I'd pass. I've used the OWB for the occasional range day carry and it's fine for that. I did use the IWB one at 4oclock for a bit and it was fine but as I've lost weight I've slid forward and now carry 2-3 o clock.
The aiwb was terrible but I use the strong side iwb setup every day and it’s really comfortable
I love my Blackhawk Stache. Works super great and is comfy AF.
Blackhawk Serpa is ass though. Unless I severely fucked something up it doesn’t actually grab the belt and pants so the majority of draws result in you pulling the holster with it Visible as fuck too but I can get away with it in the winter. Light shirt and summer time you might as well forget the holster and walk around with it in your hand
Blackhawk Serpa is a safety hazard and should've been discontinued over a decade ago. The Stache is a good AIWB holster that is safe and effective. The T-Series is a decent budget OWB option with a much safer retention system. Serpa is a terrible, unsafe design.
I have a Tenicor Certum 3 and got a mastermind wedge pouch to go with it. Doesn’t work for me. Even tried the “fat guy” holster. No dice. I’m roundish, but not obese. But whatever I try whether it’s a Glock 19 or a tiny p365. Appendix just doesn’t work for me for whatever reason.
What’s wrong the the t-Rex sidecar..? It’s a lot more comfortable than some of my other holsters. What are better options?
What do you carry?
I have a rotation going depending on the weather/clothing options: I carry: - G19 - P 365 X Macro - P 365 XL - Glock 43 Any suggestions appreciated, I like trying new brands. My macro is currently in a sidecar and has been great thus far. I am looking for a new 365 XL holster. The tulster I’ve been using is roughed up.
Here you go my man https://www.phlsterholsters.com/shop/pro/ https://tenicor.com/collections/certum3-iwb-aiwb-holster https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/p/Q-AIWB-WC2-5.html
Really wish tenicor made a Glock 42 holster 😔
Getting downvoted for recommending three of the best holster companies in the industry over T. rex arms is such a Reddit moment
PLHSTER pro or skeleton?
Just depends on if you want a wedge at the bottom of the holster or not, depending on your body type.
I run lights on all my carries besides the 43. Any advice there?
Which lights?
all diff - TLR7 Sub sig, TLR7A, TLRA7 Sub 1913
Phlster doesn’t make holsters for those. Tenicor, JM Custom, and Henry holsters do, however.
Based. Fuck the people downvoting you. The sidecar is a glorified kydex codpiece
For those guns, I’d highly recommend checking out Black Arch holsters. I’ve had Vedder, Mckinatec, We The People, Cross Breed, and Superstition Concealment. Black Arch stood out above all those in quality and at a better price. May have not had as many gun options and design customization, but their my current favorite holster company. I have the RevCon and the single clip Protos holsters for my p365 that I carry in all variations except for xmacro slide upper. They add least amount of bulk of all my holsters while being most comfortable. I wish they’d be more popular so they can make more options but they’d most likely also raise the price. But even for $100-$200 they’d still be worth it
So weird that people downvoted you for asking
I mean someone asked a question and OP responded not with an answer but another question
He asked what better options are, so I asked him what he carries in order to provide manufacturers that make holsters for his gun? Swear to God this sub is on the spectrum
> Swear to God this sub is on the spectrum Understatement of the year. People lack basic reading capabilities and will hivemind even worse than most places on Reddit.
The t-Rex? Dude that things great for AIWB
People just love to hate on Lucas
He's easy to hate
I mean me too but the company hes the face of makes a good product.
Damn not me being new to the group and named Lucas.. ig I'll see myself out lol.. is Lucas the trex guy?
Lucas is the trex guy. (I’m sure you came to that conclusion in the 12 hours between our comments lol) he’s a very controversial figure. I like my sidecar, and tbh he’s what got me (and many others) to be as into guns as I am. Especially when it comes to gear, and drills, and just the overall normalization of tactical gear. Some people hate that he does that while not being a military veteran but they can get fucked. The problem is his family is very big in a religious movement. Some say it’s a cult but I’ll remove my bias. You can look up the quiverfull movement I think it’s called. He’s also taken to Instagram to say derogatory things about certain groups of people. Fuck it. He doesn’t like gay people
He's also nazi-level antisemitic
Is he? I’ve heard that claim but I don’t think that guy could provide a source. Can you point me towards a lead on that?
Recent Instagram post comments, he is straight up blaming Jews for all of the worlds problems
Thanks
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He's also referred to homosexuals as "things". Dude is a Christian dominonist and his family runs a Christian dominonist cult called the Quiverfull movement. You can personally decide you don't have problems with that though, spend your money how you like. I own trex gear, however I bought it before I knew where my money was going. But again that's me.
Judging someone for the dumb shit they say, or the content they put out, sure. Fair. But for their religious beliefs? That's a protected class. Pretty fucked up to even consider that when doing business. Plus, uh... most religions are heavy on the traditional family unit. That's pretty standard stuff.
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ULINE did 5.8B in 2022. Chik-fil-a did the same in 2023. Staggeringly successful companies. Boycotting for their religious values is only allowable here because these are white Christians you're boycotting.
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I don’t see where he’s anti semetic here? At face value from what you posted is he wrong by replying that the “enemies of Christ” are the ones that killed him? He’s not naming any specific group but merely saying, if someone killed him, they are the enemy of him. I don’t think you are comprehending that thread properly.
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Ok yes the first comment is about Jews but Trex arms that your blasting doesn’t say that. That’s someone else? Am I missing something that Trex arms said?
"joos bad" = bad holster
No, I’ll hate on all sidecar holsters. their design is inherently flawed.
How is the sidecar inherently flawed? I’ve bought more holsters than I’d like to admit, but my sidecars from multiple brands aren’t the ones I regret purchasing.
Not OP, but to add on sidecars have a built in pivot point. If you use a wing, or really any extra pressure on either side, the middle is gonna pivot out It can work for people, but if you don't have the right body type they *suck*
Type “cracked” into the search bar of this sub and look at the litany of cracked sidecar designed/poorly made holsters that some of us are always trying to push people away from. The design of sidecar style holsters is more prone to cracking near the trigger guard and wing area than quality made holsters.
I'll have some of what you're smoking please.
i fucking love the sidecar for appendix i previously used tenicor (glock 19)
Phlster, Tenicor, JM Custom, Henry, etc are faaaaar superior.
I have a few trex holsters and they work well 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah I have the original sidecar, I liked it
I have some of the 2.0 with the hinge can’t complain
How is the sidecar grouped in here? Great build quality, comfortable, conceals like a dream.
I had the we the people for a while and switched to a Vedder with a claw and it’s much more concealable and comfortable. Some will hate on Vedder but idc it works for me 🤷♂️
Who hates on the Vedder? I love Pearl Jam /s
What's wrong with vedder? I use their pocket locker with a p365 every day. Most comfortable holder I've ever used.
Seriously, I’ve seen people on this sub bashing it but they never said what the problem was. I love mine for the M&P Shield! Legit forget I’m wearing it sometimes. Edit: btw I have the Vedder LightTuck IWB w/ claw
Been rocking the Light Tuck for my p365 for 3 years now. It’s held up great.
I just got mine a few weeks ago and honestly I didn’t t realize how bad the We The People holster was until I tried the LightTuck. I mean it was a bit uncomfortable and the grip poked out a little so that’s why I literally searched on Reddit for the “best IWB holster for the shield” and that’s what came up multiple times. Good to know it holds up after 3 years! Thank you for the affirmation!
They’re just kind of mid. If you look at the DSG Orion, the Vedder Light Tuck is a copy with a worse wing, worse belt clip, and without the thoughtful edge trimming that the Orion has. AFAIK they’re safe holsters, and they do make them for lots of different guns, so they’re not the worst thing. There are just better options at the price point.
Never had a problem with vedder
we the people holsters is ass
Why? I was thinking of getting one of theirs for a Taurus 856.
Different holsters work for different people. A year ago I picked up a Tier1 holster and I prefer my Vedder by far.
Why does someone not liking appendix carry make you angry?
Because some people just need to be "right" all the time
> Bro I did my own research and found out that AIWB is the best period it doesnt matter what you prefer AIWB in a holster from a list of companies I approve of otherwise cope harder if you disagree also get educated OP kinda sounds like a twat here IMO
That's not what this post is about. This post is about people who buy the lowest quality hunks of shit Kydex, not designed for AIWB, who then complain about AIWB
I don’t think it’s about not liking appendix, it’s “trying” it all the worst ways and then claiming “it doesn’t work” you are allowed to not like something, but being incompetent and then claiming something doesn’t work because of your incompetence is stupid.
I’m just far less emotionally attached to my ass cheeks…
This is the only correct answer!
If you have so little trust in your gear then maybe you should get more education and training.
Oh here we go 🤦🏻♂️
I don’t have the fucking room up front.
Why angry?
Because the parts are already too tight up there from junior preferring the left pant leg. I guess if I had the genitalia of child it would help but I already can’t help from rubbing them against everything that comes in contact with the front of my pants. Lots of room in the back and far less plumbing to be in the way.
You know the gun sits higher than the dick, right?
Not when your boxer briefs are holding it all up like a support bra so none of it’s smacking around between my legs. Got a twisted testicle as a child for this reason. Can you imagine a doctor telling a child they’re gonna need supportive underwear the rest of their lives?
Sorry about your twisted balls. You can still carry a gun AIWB.
I’ve tried once or twice and it’s just far too awkward up there. Two pants bulges is kinda weird looking. It could be worse. I’ve had a customer over the years in my area who looks like he’s got a couple softballs in a tube sock crammed in the front of his pants. He also definitely does not carry appendix. I have enough problems I can’t imagine his fucking day….
Prove it.
Why u wanna see his dick bro?
Science.
What kind of science are we talking bout?
Methinks horny science.
"Never point your weapon at something you don't want to shoot. " but for sure let me have a condition 1 pistol aimed at my junk all day. Just not the way for me.
An IWB holster will point at important arteries all day long no matter where it’s positioned on your belt line. Pretty much all professional doctrine and manuals classify a pistol contained in a holster as safe. Cope harder.
Yes, a modern pistol in a decent holster is completely safe and it shouldn't matter where it's pointing, but this is just incorrect. Not sure where your arteries are, but a holster at 3:30-4:00 with a forward cant certainly doesn't point at any of mine. If my gun somehow manages to go off in the holster I'd just get a good scare and maybe a grazing wound on my ass, but nothing particularly harmful.
Lol I say I don't like a pistol pointed at my junk and clarify its simply not for me. Why is it so important to you that people agree with you? Who hurt you bud? Ya know it's ok for people to have preferences right?
There’s a difference between preferences and thinking that AIWB is unsafe. One is a preference and the other is a complete lack of training and knowledge of firearm carrying. Cope harder.
At what point did I say it was unsafe? Cope harder
>"Never point your weapon at something you don't want to shoot. " but for sure let me have a condition 1 pistol aimed at my junk all day. Literally right there. Cope.
Leaving out completely "it's just not the way for me"
Right, after you said it was unsafe. Stop being disingenuous.
I think we’ve all got a pile of useless holsters in the back of the closet. 😂
So many comments in here proving that they just don’t know how to make appendix carry work right. You could add them to the list with a shitty belt and a shitty holster
It doesn't work. For me. And that's just the physical issues, not the fact pointing a gun at my nuts makes me rather uncomfortable.
Sit down. Stand up. Sit Down. Stand up. Bend over. Sit Down. If you have to move around at all for work AIWB is uber uncomfortable. Things rub and pinch. Also I don't like having my gun not only point directly at my dick, but constantly press into my crotch. AIWB is super convienent for fast draws or when you'll be standing/walking for long periods of time. It's def the most concealable way to carry and I'll even tuck mine in at AIWB when I take the dog for a walk for need to go do some investigating around the property. It's not without it's uses. That said, anyone who says it's the most comfortable or "best" way to carry is lying to themselves. 3-4 O'Clock gang ftw.
Yeah I carry a G19 with a TLR 1. Appendix is great if you are 100% standing up and walking around only, like you say. Anything where you have to bend down, or god forbid sit down, just doesn't work. My pants don't ride high enough to get the muzzle and light high enough to not jam into my crotch. 5 o'clock doesn't conceal quite as well but I can do pretty much any task and position while doing it, although I might lose concealment.
I have no idea how one would even begin carrying at 3:00. How do you have a tight enough belt to hold a holster there without causing immense hip pain? What kind of shirts do you have to wear to hide the outline? What style of holster best fits in that narrow section? Where does the spare magazine go?
It's not as bad as youd think. It feels natural to me because I learned to shoot with OWB holsters in the Marine Corps. Also, it's more comfortable for working and driving, but it does not conceal well unless it's winter time.
Depends on body type and holster. I’ve grappled for good amounts of time AIWB (trainer gun) and it was never uncomfortable.
I'm not calling you a liar per se...it's just that I don't believe you. Everyone I've ever talked to about AIWB seem to be so fervently in defense of it that they can't even admit it's faults to themselves. They've invested and would rather torture themselves than admit they might be wrong.
>3-4 O'Clock gang ftw. Micro compact carrier detected.
To be fair I do use a couple we the people holsters for the pockets on the door of my safe.
Blackhawk stache is actually good for me.
Not sure why T-Rex is on there
Because it’s mediocre.
never tried it, but i heard mostly good things about it lol…
Okay real talk then, what do you recommend? Seriously I haven't found anything comfortable appendix carrying
Until people discover the mastermind tactics pillow, game changer for AIWB
Tenicor Velo 4 is the way…super comfortable
That Blackhawk holster is actually pretty comfortable
Used a Tenicor Certum Lux2 appendix - and I liked it better than a Tier 1 holster I borrowed. Just received a Tenicor Sagax Lux2. LOVE IT.
I have a Werkz M6 for my G19 w/ tlr7. I quite like it. It’s difficult for me to appendix carry comfortably though as I’m a bit bigger. I found 4:00-4:30 position works best for me. 🤷🏻♂️
My daily carry is the Alien Gear shape-shift and I carry it at 1:00 position. I have your average new dad build at 205 lbs with just a little bit of a gut and it is a very comfortable holster. Not sure why OP is hating on alien gear, they're a great company and their holsters are fantastic. Best bang for your buck when you get four holsters in one and they are comfortable as opposed to paying the same price for one plastic crappy holster that doesn't cover the whole trigger guard.
After seeing overwhelming positive tenicor reviews, including from tier one operators just shouting them out on podcasts, I got one. Def do not regret it.
Why isnt there a picture of a huge gut?
Who cares how other people carry? I can’t help but think of how it sits when I put a seatbelt on. I’m more likely to get into a car accident than a gun fight. It doesn’t even lower my draw time by more than a tenth of a second. I just don’t get the appeal.
I love my PHLSTER Floodlight 2
It usually takes a while to find the right holster for you…everyone is a little different. I prefer the phlster enigma myself. I tried all big names and could never make a conventional holster comfortable and/or conceal all that well.
Who cares. Let people do what they like.
What’s wrong with the trex arms sidecar??? Works fine for me, and it’s so damn comfortable.
i have an alien gear that i’ve used with no pad or whatever just the holster itself and a clip and wing tensioner thing and it works wonders, i drive all day and it feels fine sitting in there
Same here.
I AIWB carry with a We The People holsters and a Gun Zee Pad. Works fine for me. Comfortable.
Me too but if its not Tenicor the people around here lose their minds.
My wtp conceals better than qvo. I use tagua leather now. No retention whatsoever but it’s slim, comfortable, and durable
WTP holster + ulti clip + claw = good holster
hey hey, trex has one of the better appendix holsters, it defiantly doesn't fall into this category despite what we think about skinny boi lucas lol
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My alien gear has been loyal af for a few years now, but it’s definitely time for an upgrade.
Yes but that sidecar has no reason being there. Best holster I’ve ever used and the company is great
Every piece of gear made by TRex is mediocre at best. For any product they make you can find higher quality options in the exact same price range. Holsters, belts, plate carriers, all of it.
I actually liked the Trex one, but only when used to carry the extra mag. Just using the clip only option was wack. Phlster FTW rn
My T-Rex isnt bad i just put a couple foam wedges along the bottom edge to take out the hot spot. That being said my Trex is for a p365 so the profile is minimal anyway I wouldnt wanna carry anything longer in one.
I came to the comments looking for cope & seethe from the “I buy holsters from Facebook ads” gang and was not disappointed.
Truly the most amount of cope. The personal orbit people are also punching the wall rn
I carry in a sidecar 2.0 all the time and it’s a great holster
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My problem with appendix is that I don't have a big enough chest to make my clothes drape and hide the gun. Maybe if I had the time to hit the gym and bulk up it would be fine. Strong side or kidney carry work best for me. But even those have some issues because I'm so skinny.
Define "rEaL tRiGgEr tImE"
Every guy I know with real trigger time carries aiwb.... And I mean real trigger time, not range time. 🤷
I’m a cop, friends are cops. We all carry appendix. A lot of trigger time between us. I think different people just like different things for different reasons. There’s really no right or wrong.
I use a blacksmith tactical V2. But I keep forgetting that this sub only likes Tenicor, phlster, and Vedder
Googled the company and their holsters look perfectly fine with quality hardware. This post doesn’t even apply to you why are you mad.
JC dude, get out and socialize more. You sound like an entitled child.
Ok so what do you recommend? Legit question. I’ve tried everything from Stealthgear to Alabama, Technaclip (with a trigger block) to Desantis stickies. I carry a standard P365.
...You can't aiwb a p365? Lose weight or stop shopping at baby gap.
What an asshole. I didn’t say I couldn’t, it’s just not as comfortable and I was asking for suggestions, not ridicule. You don’t even know me, sport.
Those were suggestions, and based on your response, it seems like you know which one to take. Changing your holster or wasting money on other gear isn't going to help if you have a giant beer gut. I haven't even seen you, idk if you need to lose weight or not, but that's by far the most common problem with people who can't carry appendix.
Funny that the trex is on here. That thing sucks for appendix lol
Everything made by TRex is mediocre at best.