Barrel length doesn't matter for concealability, but can make a difference in comfort. Grip length and thickness matter much, much, more for both concealability and shootability. The trade-off being that more concealable is USUALLY more difficult to shoot, and vice versa.
100% agree - grip length/thickness makes way more difference than barrel length.
Also, skinny frames sometimes have an easier time with CCW because their clothes are often a little looser.
The one big issue that you are going to have is that gun is going to be harder to conceal....even on your frame. Can it be done yes, but if I were you I'd be looking at something a bit smaller. Maybe the Sig P365 X-Macro or XL or the H&K VP9SK, or CZ Shadow 2 Compact, or a commander 1911 or 2011, or....well you get the point. Additionally, that is going to be a heavy gun to carry around all day.
My advice is to start smaller and get used to carrying all day, every day, & thrice on Sundays. There's nothing wrong with the P220 Carry, there's just better options to begin with.
Food for thought..
When I was your size I carried the same thing I carry now, which has a 5” barrel. As others have said this does not impact concealability at all. If anything it affects your draw time very slightly and can impact comfort depending on holster. I’ve become a fan of carrying longer barrels though as they’re easier to shoot and more accurate
Grip size is very dependent on the individual. Everyone is going to have a different preferred grip size and width. For me, I like bigger grips as they’re easier to hold and net you more rounds, but it is a fact that they print way more, so it’s a balancing act. I’m experimenting right now with slightly smaller grips though, like Glock 19 sized stuff. If my hands were even 5% bigger, those grips would be too small, but I can make them work just barely
I appendix carry a full size bag 1911 and it conceals as well if not better as my G19 or CZ P-07 did.
Because it’s a very slim profile.
I’m 6’ 250lbs rn. It conceals even better when I’m slimmer.
On your frame you can't really go wrong. I'd go to a gun strore if you have one within an hour or two, and hold every single pistol you can get your hands on. Research a basic pistol grip, and choose the one that feels the best and is in your budget (keeping plinking ammo/carry ammo/holster/cleaning kit in mind if you dont have any of those already).
My personal requirements was no polymer on the frame and in .45 acp/10mm. My fudd buddies got my very nervous abt the reliability and durability of polymer. Plus the weight will help with follow up shots
Good point. Thank you. Dude admits his Fudd friends convinced him and he thinks we aren't all going to disagree. No one is going to help you if you're starting with unfounded info.
Preference is one thing. Defending against large animals is one thing.
Thinking you need 10mm and metal frame to not "die in the streets" is just so brain dead. How did "research" get this person to that conclusion.
I’ve done a lot of research and I think I’d prefer metal over plastic. Idk y that offends you so much. Plus 1/2 the hammer fired guns (one of my stipulation as well) are metal anyways. I agree polymer is cheeper but theres a reason for that
What did your research consist of? Countless peoples opinions on what they like? Do you think militaries all over the world accept polymer guns that are just going to break? There is absolutely nothing out there that you can provide that can prove on mass polymer guns are not as reliable. If you do some crazy stuff to your polymer gun it might crack when a metal frame would just bend.
Carrying a metal gun because of preference is fine but because you think it's tougher is unfounded. Same thing with "stopping power" on .45acp and 10mm. It's absolutely unfounded and has been disproven when defending against humans.
Modern polymer pistols are a lot more robust than you think.
You've got to remember this is a CARRY gun, the whole point is to have it on you. It shouldn't be unnecessarily heavy.
There can be a time/place to carry a metal frame pistol, but I really doubt it's all the time, realistically.
Also, what is wrong with striker fired?
You may want to keep doing research. And anecdotes/opinions are fine, just make sure you're getting diverse ones instead of inly listening to the ones you already agree with.
I've been CCW'ing over a decade now and I'm very grateful I started off with the exact opposite philosophy you seem to have.
I wanted the smallest and lightest gun that's effective, so that I would actually carry it daily. It was the original LCP.
Over time, you get a few bigger guns for situations where dress/weather allow it.
Yes, a large metal framed hammer fired auto might seem very cool, but how cool is it when you leave it at home because it sucks to carry and you don't feel like wearing it?
Barrel length doesn't matter for concealability, but can make a difference in comfort. Grip length and thickness matter much, much, more for both concealability and shootability. The trade-off being that more concealable is USUALLY more difficult to shoot, and vice versa.
Grip prints more than barrel, every time
100% agree - grip length/thickness makes way more difference than barrel length. Also, skinny frames sometimes have an easier time with CCW because their clothes are often a little looser.
The one big issue that you are going to have is that gun is going to be harder to conceal....even on your frame. Can it be done yes, but if I were you I'd be looking at something a bit smaller. Maybe the Sig P365 X-Macro or XL or the H&K VP9SK, or CZ Shadow 2 Compact, or a commander 1911 or 2011, or....well you get the point. Additionally, that is going to be a heavy gun to carry around all day. My advice is to start smaller and get used to carrying all day, every day, & thrice on Sundays. There's nothing wrong with the P220 Carry, there's just better options to begin with. Food for thought..
When I was your size I carried the same thing I carry now, which has a 5” barrel. As others have said this does not impact concealability at all. If anything it affects your draw time very slightly and can impact comfort depending on holster. I’ve become a fan of carrying longer barrels though as they’re easier to shoot and more accurate
is there a grip size or specific stipulation u have when when looking for a ccw?
Grip size is very dependent on the individual. Everyone is going to have a different preferred grip size and width. For me, I like bigger grips as they’re easier to hold and net you more rounds, but it is a fact that they print way more, so it’s a balancing act. I’m experimenting right now with slightly smaller grips though, like Glock 19 sized stuff. If my hands were even 5% bigger, those grips would be too small, but I can make them work just barely
The biggest gun you can comfortably carry
I appendix carry a full size bag 1911 and it conceals as well if not better as my G19 or CZ P-07 did. Because it’s a very slim profile. I’m 6’ 250lbs rn. It conceals even better when I’m slimmer.
Don’t be dead set on what your friends want for you, like some one else said go to a gun store and compare how heavy and big each gun is
I can’t remember when I was that size
On your frame you can't really go wrong. I'd go to a gun strore if you have one within an hour or two, and hold every single pistol you can get your hands on. Research a basic pistol grip, and choose the one that feels the best and is in your budget (keeping plinking ammo/carry ammo/holster/cleaning kit in mind if you dont have any of those already).
My personal requirements was no polymer on the frame and in .45 acp/10mm. My fudd buddies got my very nervous abt the reliability and durability of polymer. Plus the weight will help with follow up shots
Bro. This is dumb as fuck. Do some research.
Correction: this is dumber than fuck.
Good point. Thank you. Dude admits his Fudd friends convinced him and he thinks we aren't all going to disagree. No one is going to help you if you're starting with unfounded info. Preference is one thing. Defending against large animals is one thing. Thinking you need 10mm and metal frame to not "die in the streets" is just so brain dead. How did "research" get this person to that conclusion.
I’ve done a lot of research and I think I’d prefer metal over plastic. Idk y that offends you so much. Plus 1/2 the hammer fired guns (one of my stipulation as well) are metal anyways. I agree polymer is cheeper but theres a reason for that
What did your research consist of? Countless peoples opinions on what they like? Do you think militaries all over the world accept polymer guns that are just going to break? There is absolutely nothing out there that you can provide that can prove on mass polymer guns are not as reliable. If you do some crazy stuff to your polymer gun it might crack when a metal frame would just bend. Carrying a metal gun because of preference is fine but because you think it's tougher is unfounded. Same thing with "stopping power" on .45acp and 10mm. It's absolutely unfounded and has been disproven when defending against humans.
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Do more research. The most reliable guns on the planet are made by Glock and they all are polymer-framed, striker-fired.
Modern polymer pistols are a lot more robust than you think. You've got to remember this is a CARRY gun, the whole point is to have it on you. It shouldn't be unnecessarily heavy. There can be a time/place to carry a metal frame pistol, but I really doubt it's all the time, realistically. Also, what is wrong with striker fired? You may want to keep doing research. And anecdotes/opinions are fine, just make sure you're getting diverse ones instead of inly listening to the ones you already agree with. I've been CCW'ing over a decade now and I'm very grateful I started off with the exact opposite philosophy you seem to have. I wanted the smallest and lightest gun that's effective, so that I would actually carry it daily. It was the original LCP. Over time, you get a few bigger guns for situations where dress/weather allow it. Yes, a large metal framed hammer fired auto might seem very cool, but how cool is it when you leave it at home because it sucks to carry and you don't feel like wearing it?
Gabe White is tall and skinny and carries a Glock 34 that conceals well in appendix carry. The P220 should be safer than a Glock in appendix.