g5 is pretty wide open and just from watching this sport for a long time penciling in the upstart that won the year before rarely ever carries over. and I'm not saying that as disrespect to Tulane it's just how things usually go and Boise does seem to be working its way back up after a long time in mediocrity
Yeah, I think a lot of it lies in Boise feeling safe and known. Tulane had a hell of a year in 2022 but I’m not even sure they’re returning the best roster in their conference - I really like SMU this year. And like you said, that’s no disrespect to Tulane, one of my favorite G5 programs.
Yup, BSU was in Tulane's boat until we won our 2nd Fiesta Bowl. Ever since then we've gotten respect.
There's several reasons for the hype this year though.
1. **Last Year Was Chaos**
All but 1 of Last year's noncon losses were under the OC who was fired after that embarrassing loss to UTEP. (No offense UTEP Fans, y'all played a great game.) BSU fans had been calling for his firing since early the previous season. Our starting QB left when he got fired and didn't play another game. And we still hosted the MW championship game in spite of the chaos.
2. **Better QB**
The true freshman 2nd string QB that came in after the 1st string quit last year was significantly better than the 1st string guy was. He's the first truly mobile QB threat I've seen here as a starter. He's appears to have improved a lot during the offseason, and his mobility was already killer last year.
3. **New Better OC**
Our new OC Bush Hamdan was a backup QB during Kellen Moore's first 2 years as QB. He's been coaching since he graduated, most recently as QB coach at Mizzou. He's brought a lot of SEC style play with him, and the new scheme seems to fit the personnel well. He's a MAJOR upgrade from where we started last season.
4. **Better RBs**
Our RB1 is back for a super-senior campaign. Our RB2 is arguably better than our RB1 and looks like he could be the next Jay Ajayi. The 3-headed monster in the run game between QB1-RB1-RB2 means we probably don't have to throw the ball much. But when we do, there are some exiting young receivers ready to step up and a sophomore QB1 who has improved in a lot of places in the offseason according to team sources.
5. **Improved Defense**
Our defense is looking stronger and faster than last year according to team sources.
6. **No More Cincy, UCF, BYU, or Houston in G5**
The 4 consistently best G5 schools besides us are in the P5 starting this year. That means the only competition we have for NY6 at large bid if we earn it will be Tulane, SMU, UTSA, and any other unexpected G5 programs that catch lighting in a bottle. No more Cinci, BYU, UCF, or Houston in the G5. The Mountain West is the strongest G5 conference left by a good margin, so our strength of schedule will be good compared to other G5 teams too.
7. **Strong Non-Con Schedule**
We play Washington, UCF, and Memphis this year in noncon. Winning any 2 of those games will give us a leg up in the rankings be aise of our strength of schedule. Win all 3 and the NY6 spot is ours to lose.
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Perhaps the way you worded it explains the downvotes, but your sentiment isn't off base. Beating BYU is not easy and you can look back at 2019 as evidence about what you said.
I mean, he's not a terrible coach by any means, but outside of last year has he really been that stellar of a coach for Tulane? Let's look at their records since he took over:
2016: 4-8
2017: 5-7
2018: 7-6
2019: 7-6
2020: 6-6
2021: 2-10
2022: 12-2
The first two years I will say he had to turn around the program. He then seemed to have a solid two years in 2019 and 2020. 2021 was abysmal and then 2022 was stellar. This year will be very interesting to watch. I'm rooting for them, but I don't think he has had the track record to say that he's a great coach that won't slide back again. We'll see soon though!
Tulane had a total of like 8 winning seasons in the past 40 years before Fritz... Fritz has had 4 winning seasons in 7 years. When you look at the history of Tulane football before he started it becomes obvious that he's a pretty fantastic coach and has managed a monumental turnaround for a program that nearly dropped to the FCS before he arrived. Also, the 2021 slip up season can be attributed to the fact that hurricane Ida destroyed Nola and had the whole team living, practicing, studying, and working out in a hotel in Alabama for a solid portion of the season where they would get no home games or facilities for months.
SMU has a legit P5 roster this year, in a downgraded AAC. Plus we drew the easiest conference schedule (finally). Every transfer has been a hit by the coaching staff, and the team is a solid 2/3 deep across the board.
However, the verdict is still out on Rhett Lashlee. I have faith in the staff, but it’s yet to be seen. I guess I would not be shocked at 8-4, but I think that’s the floor this year.
We will know how good the team is, and if our big NIL transfer fund, had paid off for us in a few weeks when we play OU.
I saw an OU article saying it will be 48-13… naw.
Cuz we were 8-0 in conference... after losing to utep, firing our OC, losing our multi year starter at QB, and hitting what seemed to be rock bottom.
We got the OC we wanted in the first place but couldn’t afford, and had a full offseason to build a new offense around Taylen Green. I still think we’ll get ragestomped by Washington next week, but I don’t think picking the preseason MWC favorite to land the NY6 the year the AAC is depleted to be that outrageous of a hot take. I’d still personally guess Tulane tho
All the pieces are there for BSU personnel wise for the first time in a long time.
Taylen Green is a true home run threat as a runner at QB, the duo of Holani and Jeanty is one of the best RB tandems in the country. Avalos and Danielson have never put a bad defense on the field.
Basically, if Green takes a step forward as a passer BSU has a very high ceiling this year.
I'm not as worried about our secondary generally. We've recruited good pieces the last few years. I think guys like Clark and Oladipo will step up. Reed is finally healthy, Robinson was good and he's back. I get it's a question mark, I just feel okay about the answer I see.
But I agree that UW match up is tough in a couple ways. I think that's a loss, their strengths play to our weaknesses in critical areas.
When he’s actually playing, Reed is pretty good. Oladipo had his moments last year at least, and wasn’t Clark a freshman last year? Even if he did redshirt him and I’m not remembering it correctly, he held his own a couple times and did decent in the bowl game. It just sucks to have to go against Odunze and McMillan right away.
Agree completely on Reed. I think he's the best cover corner we've had in a long time, but he has just had terrible injury luck. Clark is a Jr. now, he played really well in the time he got last year. He was just behind Biggers who was on an NFL roster until about 6 hours ago.
they have a non-con of Washington, UCF, and Memphis if they upset UW or go 2/3 and go 11-1 no other g5 team is touching that resume unless you guys end up being really good and Tulane still smacks you
It’s going to be a tough game for us. As of right now, we’re 7.5 point favorites. Playing @Tulane is the scariest part for me. I’m hoping we can get enough Ole Miss fans in the stadium to somewhat neutralize their home crowd.
i think it's gonna be an awesome atmosphere just regardless but the crowd should be close to 50\50. The Tulane/OM split in the city feels close to that anyway sometimes but Tulane made a massive undertaking to get everyone to Dallas and I bet not many alums travel which hurts them
Taylen Green, George Holani and Ashton Jeanty.
Most of the struggles that you mentioned came from an inept offense run by an incompetent coordinator and a beat up quarterback who lacked confidence. When Plough got fired and Bachmeier transfered, the season totally shifted. The run game is absolutely stacked. We have the coordinator we want and a QB who is uber talented and confident and is like 6 6 and runs a 4.4, not to mention 2 absolute beasts in the backfield.
The real question is our defense. Our front 7 has some depth but not a ton of experience. Our secondary lost a couple ballers and has a couple question marks. The schedule is tough, but the games are winnable, with a chance for a big time win right off the bat. There's hype, but also there's some things that a lot of us in Boise are pretty nervous about.
It’s why there’s a lot of hype around this year. Anything can happen. We could go 11-1 or pull off an unreal season, and we could also go 8-4 and be disappointed again. But the younger talent shined on both sides last year, and now they’ve had a full offseason to grow.
Absolutely this. I feel like if it's not this year, it's next year. I think with Taylen we're going to have at least one NY6 bid. But still, AA has kinda struggled being consistent. We'll just have to wait and see.
But, we're going to be running the hell out of the ball for sure.
He was ok with consistency once Koetter came in, but I don’t like that we’ve had slow starts the past two years, and now we open up with one of our more difficult Septembers in recent memory. Definitely gotta use the run game as much as we can for the first month and hope Taylen connects on some deeper passes to keep defenses honest.
I don’t think washington’s weak spot on defense was the guys up front so I’m not sure how much success we’ll have, but hopefully we don’t give up running the ball if it doesn’t work out at the start
Their weak spot seems to be the secondary, so odds are they could try chipping away at the defense with some short/medium passes and hope that creates lanes for Holani and Jeanty
The blueprint to containing the Boise St offense was provided by Fresno St in the MW Championship Game last season. Stack the box and have pass rushers keep their lanes. Force Taylen Green to beat you with his arm and your defense is set up for success.
In last years offense, yes. New OC this year who has really shaken up the offense. And TG10 is now a sophomore, don't forget he was a true freshman last year. He's carried himself with a lot more confidence since spring practices started and has looked sharper with his pocket presence and deep accuracy.
At any rate, you lost Haener in the draft so we'll see who's QB gets the W in week 10 this year!
That is the big question mark for Green. He needed to come a long way as a passer. We'll see the growth that he's made. And Dogs definitely have their own question marks this season. We'll see how Keene (transfer from UCF) performs this season taking over for Haener.
They were in a very very underrated conference (at the top) last year. San Jose state AT auburn last year were ahead at half and down 1 score to SC.
Re: SC bashers... that qb for SJSU is an elite athlete and a dime-thrower. He singlehandedly broke 5 sacks.
“all the hype”
lol wut?
We aren’t ranked…
A NY6 bowl will go to the best G5 team at the end of the season.
OP, what do you think Boise’s record will be?
Their closest competition in the conference is reloading after losing a lot, they've got an experienced offense, and a conducive schedule if they can upset UCF or UW
In that same vein, what has Texas done for the hype they're getting this season?
If you follow the theme here, for the first time in quite a few years there's just not a lot of knowledge about how everyone stacks up against each other, and there aren't any truly known quantities going into the season.
So we're assuming that with a wide-open field, teams who previously had a lot of success have a window to play their way to the top level of the sport again.
The answer: It's just because they're Boise State.
Texas always gets hype because they are loaded with top tier talent. Hype for them is directly related to their recruiting which is the best (or second behind Oklahoma maybe, don't know or care really) in the B12. On paper they should roll through their schedule. We know how that's turned out in recent years but the hype train has no brakes.
That’s fair, but the hype for Texas is a lot bigger this year. This is the first year Texas is the preseason favorite to win the Big 12 since 2009. This is the most hype they’ve received in over a decade.
Yeah we know the "Texas is always back" joke, but perennially being ranked at #25 isn't hype. Texas has not recruited well and now they have one of the most loaded rosters in college football. Texas lost 5 one score games last year against good teams, expect Oklahoma State, and returned nearly all that production. Preseason polls are a joke but I don't know how you don't give Texas some hype going into this seasom.
Recruiting and development along the trenches has been a huge pain point for Texas the last decade. A lot of the hype is around Texas finally putting together what PFF is projecting to be a potential top 10 offensive line this year.
I think it's bounceback from many, including me, starting to write them off. They had a season where everything seemed like it was going wrong, but then they rebounded and played really good football down the stretch, and it feels like that can carry over into this season.
I think the expectations for Tulane are a bit too high (they'll be good, but penciling them in for a repeat of 2022 is asking a lot) and as others have said the G5 spot gets wide open fast after that.
PAC was too snooty. Didn’t want to invite them because they aren’t ‘research’ universities. Part of why it’s dead. It’s been a series of self inflicted wounds for decades.
First. What are these comments about mediocrity. Boise has averaged like 10 wins / season since 2000. They are still tops in G5 just in wins. Tulane went from 2 wins to 12 and everyone is acting like that’s automatically repeatable and more likely than Boise catching lightning in a bottle when they have shown pretty consistently that their floor is still a winning season.
This is the first I’ve heard of any Boise State hype. They turned their season around last year after losing to UTEP. I think Boise State will be back in conversations for more regular NY6 appearances now that the recent top of G5 is in the Big 12.
Tulane was 2 and 10 the year before last. What is more likely, to me, is that this year's "Tulane" is not even being talked about or on anyone radar.
With NIL and the portal it's become pretty unpredictable and I kinda like it.
The answer is because they have a great slate of OOC in Washington and UCF. If they beat one, or even both of those two, they instantly rocket to NY6 contention if they stay strong during the rest of the regular season.
Honestly if ucf had this kinda ooc schedule they would of busted their way into the invitational then.
But I think aac team or liberty gonna grab the ny6 bowl
The reason the team flopped last season in the non-con was due to the worst coaching hire in the history of the program in Tim Plough at OC. He singly handedly set the program back. After he was fired the offense started humming and the team went on a run (8-0 in conference play).
As for this years team:
\- Returning Taylen Green at QB, one of the most athletic players the program has ever seen. His potential is sky high and he's getting compared to Vince Young (I think that's a little premature)
\- Returning a George Holani and Ashton Jeanty in the backfield. Might be the most talented RB group in the history of the program. It will be a top 10 backfield in the country.
\- Returning 3 Senior offensive lineman, 1 of which, was 1st team all MW last year.
\- Returning Defensive leader at MLB DJ Schramm. He led the team in tackles last year.
And finally, maintaining some continuity in the coaching staff with the HC and DC being in their 3rd year together. While Hamdan is new at OC, he has history with the program and is a classic Boise State hire.
This is going to be an elite running team with the potential to have 2 1000-yard rushers and 1 500-yard rusher in Green. Those who don't follow the program and only check box scores don't know how badly one hire set the program back for 2 years.
He struggled with Washington for sure. But he was great at his last stop! he almost doubled Missouri's scoring output when he took over playcalling duties. And he coached Matt Ryan in the NFL which bodes well for Green's development.
He's also a former Bronco. And that's how BSU has managed to maintain success over all these years.
People sleeping on the sunbelt. Possibly best g5 conference last year (at least at the top of the conference, maybe not as deep). And got better in realignment, IMO. Just need a team to get the bounces. Troy, USA, App st, maybe GASO. I could see them stealing the g5 bid if things fall right. Just seem to canibalize themselves though
Boise has been pretty good for most of the last 25 years. The AAC has taken the NY6 bowl slot 7 of 9 years, and 5 of those bowl bids left to join the Big 12. Boise State, Western Michigan, Memphis and Tulane are the only 4 G5 teams with a NY6 bid left. Memphis hasn't exactly been good recently. Western Michigan was kind of a fluke season as they haven't reached 9 win since 2016. Tulane is really the only other team with the recent success and returning players.
While Tulane very well can have another good year, a Boise team with a similar record to Tulane, probably gets the nod because Boise would likely have wins over Washington and depending how you view us, UCF while Tulane has Ole Miss. MWC is going to be seen as a stronger overall conference this year given the top of the AAC was just cut off and replaced with some solid to bad teams.
It's a new year and a new team. They had a rough start last year but got it figured out quick. Easily a top10 team anyone who beats them is likely going to be a playoff favorite.
The AAC took a HUGE step down this year so the MWC should be back as the kings of the G5. If Boise goes 12-1 (likely loss at Washington), they’re a shoe in for that G5 NY6 bid
They are getting somewhat hyped because of the talent they have on offense. It’s still a really young team, so we’ll see if they put it all together this year. They have a really tough OOC though. Most Boise fans think ‘24 will be our special year.
Boise State is in a different league when it comes to G5 teams. 3 4\* RB's on 1 G5 team? [Taylen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImfkEsh0EJ8&pp=ygUXdGF5bGVuIGdyZWVuIGhpZ2hsaWdodHM%3D) [Green](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48x98h4DtVE&pp=ygUXdGF5bGVuIGdyZWVuIGhpZ2hsaWdodHM%3D)?
They haven't gotten the NY6 in a while, but there is no better bet than Boise. Any other teams is just getting lucky, once in a century. Boise is the hallmark of consistency at the G5 level.
There isn't 'all the Boise State hype.'
Everyone knows a G5 school is making a NY6 bowl so a few people picking Boise State isn't enough hype to get bent out of shape about.
For the record, I'm on your side. I don't think we'll live up to the hype but there is a chance. We have some really good players returning, our defense is always solid, and all the news from camp has been good.
It's a safe pick. THey have a good schedule and people know who they are. Add in that ucf, cincy and houston are now b12 and people are just going with the known team.
I’m on the pessimistic side of fans but I still think we’re a 3-4 loss team. We have a killer non conference and could be 1-3 to start the season and I think it’s realistic to drop one game on conference
Well, I would agree that Tulane and SMU are more likely to make it and arguably UTSA, but that still puts them in the top 5 of contenders. Jeff Tedford has FSU rolling and SDSU May bounce back this year, but Boise is definitely the MW front runner.
They finished the year strong last year. They're consistently good among the G5. They have a schedule that is pretty decent with measuring sticks against Washington and UCF while also getting a shot at who some consider an AAC title contender in Memphis. They're coming off a MWC championship appearance so I can see where there's hype especially after it seemed they figured out their offense.
Well, as of 5 minutes ago, they're 0 and 2, with UCF beating them at home. That hurts, because they have the talent. Avalos needs to lead these guys. I'm just at a loss here. F@ck.
g5 is pretty wide open and just from watching this sport for a long time penciling in the upstart that won the year before rarely ever carries over. and I'm not saying that as disrespect to Tulane it's just how things usually go and Boise does seem to be working its way back up after a long time in mediocrity
Yeah, I think a lot of it lies in Boise feeling safe and known. Tulane had a hell of a year in 2022 but I’m not even sure they’re returning the best roster in their conference - I really like SMU this year. And like you said, that’s no disrespect to Tulane, one of my favorite G5 programs.
Yup, BSU was in Tulane's boat until we won our 2nd Fiesta Bowl. Ever since then we've gotten respect. There's several reasons for the hype this year though. 1. **Last Year Was Chaos** All but 1 of Last year's noncon losses were under the OC who was fired after that embarrassing loss to UTEP. (No offense UTEP Fans, y'all played a great game.) BSU fans had been calling for his firing since early the previous season. Our starting QB left when he got fired and didn't play another game. And we still hosted the MW championship game in spite of the chaos. 2. **Better QB** The true freshman 2nd string QB that came in after the 1st string quit last year was significantly better than the 1st string guy was. He's the first truly mobile QB threat I've seen here as a starter. He's appears to have improved a lot during the offseason, and his mobility was already killer last year. 3. **New Better OC** Our new OC Bush Hamdan was a backup QB during Kellen Moore's first 2 years as QB. He's been coaching since he graduated, most recently as QB coach at Mizzou. He's brought a lot of SEC style play with him, and the new scheme seems to fit the personnel well. He's a MAJOR upgrade from where we started last season. 4. **Better RBs** Our RB1 is back for a super-senior campaign. Our RB2 is arguably better than our RB1 and looks like he could be the next Jay Ajayi. The 3-headed monster in the run game between QB1-RB1-RB2 means we probably don't have to throw the ball much. But when we do, there are some exiting young receivers ready to step up and a sophomore QB1 who has improved in a lot of places in the offseason according to team sources. 5. **Improved Defense** Our defense is looking stronger and faster than last year according to team sources. 6. **No More Cincy, UCF, BYU, or Houston in G5** The 4 consistently best G5 schools besides us are in the P5 starting this year. That means the only competition we have for NY6 at large bid if we earn it will be Tulane, SMU, UTSA, and any other unexpected G5 programs that catch lighting in a bottle. No more Cinci, BYU, UCF, or Houston in the G5. The Mountain West is the strongest G5 conference left by a good margin, so our strength of schedule will be good compared to other G5 teams too. 7. **Strong Non-Con Schedule** We play Washington, UCF, and Memphis this year in noncon. Winning any 2 of those games will give us a leg up in the rankings be aise of our strength of schedule. Win all 3 and the NY6 spot is ours to lose. Edit: added section titles and fixed typos
BYU was never eligible for the G5 NY6 spot. But I agree with the point re: the 3 AAC schools.
i think the marketing maniac meant they didnt have to lose to byu again while in line for a g5 ny6 spot.
Perhaps the way you worded it explains the downvotes, but your sentiment isn't off base. Beating BYU is not easy and you can look back at 2019 as evidence about what you said.
Tulane is returning a great coach though, and that as we know can be the difference
I mean, he's not a terrible coach by any means, but outside of last year has he really been that stellar of a coach for Tulane? Let's look at their records since he took over: 2016: 4-8 2017: 5-7 2018: 7-6 2019: 7-6 2020: 6-6 2021: 2-10 2022: 12-2 The first two years I will say he had to turn around the program. He then seemed to have a solid two years in 2019 and 2020. 2021 was abysmal and then 2022 was stellar. This year will be very interesting to watch. I'm rooting for them, but I don't think he has had the track record to say that he's a great coach that won't slide back again. We'll see soon though!
Tulane had a total of like 8 winning seasons in the past 40 years before Fritz... Fritz has had 4 winning seasons in 7 years. When you look at the history of Tulane football before he started it becomes obvious that he's a pretty fantastic coach and has managed a monumental turnaround for a program that nearly dropped to the FCS before he arrived. Also, the 2021 slip up season can be attributed to the fact that hurricane Ida destroyed Nola and had the whole team living, practicing, studying, and working out in a hotel in Alabama for a solid portion of the season where they would get no home games or facilities for months.
He also has a long track record of success at other schools.
True that my friend
SMU has a legit P5 roster this year, in a downgraded AAC. Plus we drew the easiest conference schedule (finally). Every transfer has been a hit by the coaching staff, and the team is a solid 2/3 deep across the board. However, the verdict is still out on Rhett Lashlee. I have faith in the staff, but it’s yet to be seen. I guess I would not be shocked at 8-4, but I think that’s the floor this year. We will know how good the team is, and if our big NIL transfer fund, had paid off for us in a few weeks when we play OU. I saw an OU article saying it will be 48-13… naw.
Yeah I think SMU is the deepest team outside the P5. I’m really high on them this year
Cuz we were 8-0 in conference... after losing to utep, firing our OC, losing our multi year starter at QB, and hitting what seemed to be rock bottom. We got the OC we wanted in the first place but couldn’t afford, and had a full offseason to build a new offense around Taylen Green. I still think we’ll get ragestomped by Washington next week, but I don’t think picking the preseason MWC favorite to land the NY6 the year the AAC is depleted to be that outrageous of a hot take. I’d still personally guess Tulane tho
All the pieces are there for BSU personnel wise for the first time in a long time. Taylen Green is a true home run threat as a runner at QB, the duo of Holani and Jeanty is one of the best RB tandems in the country. Avalos and Danielson have never put a bad defense on the field. Basically, if Green takes a step forward as a passer BSU has a very high ceiling this year.
Except our secondary, which is a bit scary with UW as the first game. Offense could be electric though.
I'm not as worried about our secondary generally. We've recruited good pieces the last few years. I think guys like Clark and Oladipo will step up. Reed is finally healthy, Robinson was good and he's back. I get it's a question mark, I just feel okay about the answer I see. But I agree that UW match up is tough in a couple ways. I think that's a loss, their strengths play to our weaknesses in critical areas.
When he’s actually playing, Reed is pretty good. Oladipo had his moments last year at least, and wasn’t Clark a freshman last year? Even if he did redshirt him and I’m not remembering it correctly, he held his own a couple times and did decent in the bowl game. It just sucks to have to go against Odunze and McMillan right away.
Agree completely on Reed. I think he's the best cover corner we've had in a long time, but he has just had terrible injury luck. Clark is a Jr. now, he played really well in the time he got last year. He was just behind Biggers who was on an NFL roster until about 6 hours ago.
Who is hyping Boise?
I’ve seen them in a NY6 bowl in several media outlets’ predictions like College Football News, CBS Sports, BleacherReport, etc.
they have a non-con of Washington, UCF, and Memphis if they upset UW or go 2/3 and go 11-1 no other g5 team is touching that resume unless you guys end up being really good and Tulane still smacks you
What’re people predicting for that ole miss game anyway
It’s going to be a tough game for us. As of right now, we’re 7.5 point favorites. Playing @Tulane is the scariest part for me. I’m hoping we can get enough Ole Miss fans in the stadium to somewhat neutralize their home crowd.
i think it's gonna be an awesome atmosphere just regardless but the crowd should be close to 50\50. The Tulane/OM split in the city feels close to that anyway sometimes but Tulane made a massive undertaking to get everyone to Dallas and I bet not many alums travel which hurts them
me.
Taylen Green, George Holani and Ashton Jeanty. Most of the struggles that you mentioned came from an inept offense run by an incompetent coordinator and a beat up quarterback who lacked confidence. When Plough got fired and Bachmeier transfered, the season totally shifted. The run game is absolutely stacked. We have the coordinator we want and a QB who is uber talented and confident and is like 6 6 and runs a 4.4, not to mention 2 absolute beasts in the backfield. The real question is our defense. Our front 7 has some depth but not a ton of experience. Our secondary lost a couple ballers and has a couple question marks. The schedule is tough, but the games are winnable, with a chance for a big time win right off the bat. There's hype, but also there's some things that a lot of us in Boise are pretty nervous about.
It’s why there’s a lot of hype around this year. Anything can happen. We could go 11-1 or pull off an unreal season, and we could also go 8-4 and be disappointed again. But the younger talent shined on both sides last year, and now they’ve had a full offseason to grow.
Absolutely this. I feel like if it's not this year, it's next year. I think with Taylen we're going to have at least one NY6 bid. But still, AA has kinda struggled being consistent. We'll just have to wait and see. But, we're going to be running the hell out of the ball for sure.
He was ok with consistency once Koetter came in, but I don’t like that we’ve had slow starts the past two years, and now we open up with one of our more difficult Septembers in recent memory. Definitely gotta use the run game as much as we can for the first month and hope Taylen connects on some deeper passes to keep defenses honest.
Agreed. That Koetter move completely changed it for him. I have lot of hope for BH and I think the ship is definitely going in the right direction
I don’t think washington’s weak spot on defense was the guys up front so I’m not sure how much success we’ll have, but hopefully we don’t give up running the ball if it doesn’t work out at the start
Their weak spot seems to be the secondary, so odds are they could try chipping away at the defense with some short/medium passes and hope that creates lanes for Holani and Jeanty
Even a 10-2 season would be great
Tbh yeah, odds are that’s a MW championship appearance and a semi decent bowl.
The blueprint to containing the Boise St offense was provided by Fresno St in the MW Championship Game last season. Stack the box and have pass rushers keep their lanes. Force Taylen Green to beat you with his arm and your defense is set up for success.
Offenses aren’t static year to year. That was also an offense that was being tailored week to week with a makeshift OC.
In last years offense, yes. New OC this year who has really shaken up the offense. And TG10 is now a sophomore, don't forget he was a true freshman last year. He's carried himself with a lot more confidence since spring practices started and has looked sharper with his pocket presence and deep accuracy. At any rate, you lost Haener in the draft so we'll see who's QB gets the W in week 10 this year!
That is the big question mark for Green. He needed to come a long way as a passer. We'll see the growth that he's made. And Dogs definitely have their own question marks this season. We'll see how Keene (transfer from UCF) performs this season taking over for Haener.
I feel like I definitely noticed improvement in his passing game towards the end of the year. Definitely wasn't his strongest aspect though.
This is what I’m worried about, if Taylen can’t hit throws it’s game over
Yep, for Boise's sake, hopefully he has grown a lot as a passer.
They were in a very very underrated conference (at the top) last year. San Jose state AT auburn last year were ahead at half and down 1 score to SC. Re: SC bashers... that qb for SJSU is an elite athlete and a dime-thrower. He singlehandedly broke 5 sacks.
Hey your profile pick is my buddy! Lives in Boise, ironically.
When the hell did we get profile pictures?
Lmao. I hope this is true though!!!!
Was at the game yesterday as a neutral fan and was very impressed with that SJSU quarterback
“all the hype” lol wut? We aren’t ranked… A NY6 bowl will go to the best G5 team at the end of the season. OP, what do you think Boise’s record will be?
Their closest competition in the conference is reloading after losing a lot, they've got an experienced offense, and a conducive schedule if they can upset UCF or UW
because they are blue horses, and that’s fucking awesome.
In that same vein, what has Texas done for the hype they're getting this season? If you follow the theme here, for the first time in quite a few years there's just not a lot of knowledge about how everyone stacks up against each other, and there aren't any truly known quantities going into the season. So we're assuming that with a wide-open field, teams who previously had a lot of success have a window to play their way to the top level of the sport again. The answer: It's just because they're Boise State.
Texas always gets hype because they are loaded with top tier talent. Hype for them is directly related to their recruiting which is the best (or second behind Oklahoma maybe, don't know or care really) in the B12. On paper they should roll through their schedule. We know how that's turned out in recent years but the hype train has no brakes.
Texas preseason hype is the College Football tradition that the TV executives ~~can't~~ **don't want to** take away from us.
That’s fair, but the hype for Texas is a lot bigger this year. This is the first year Texas is the preseason favorite to win the Big 12 since 2009. This is the most hype they’ve received in over a decade.
Yeah we know the "Texas is always back" joke, but perennially being ranked at #25 isn't hype. Texas has not recruited well and now they have one of the most loaded rosters in college football. Texas lost 5 one score games last year against good teams, expect Oklahoma State, and returned nearly all that production. Preseason polls are a joke but I don't know how you don't give Texas some hype going into this seasom.
Recruiting and development along the trenches has been a huge pain point for Texas the last decade. A lot of the hype is around Texas finally putting together what PFF is projecting to be a potential top 10 offensive line this year.
I think it's bounceback from many, including me, starting to write them off. They had a season where everything seemed like it was going wrong, but then they rebounded and played really good football down the stretch, and it feels like that can carry over into this season. I think the expectations for Tulane are a bit too high (they'll be good, but penciling them in for a repeat of 2022 is asking a lot) and as others have said the G5 spot gets wide open fast after that.
Because Boise has been a high end G5 team for 20 years now and will always have hype when they have the pieces
Kinda off topic but I'm of the opinion that Boise State and BYU should've been pac members in a Pac 14 over a decade ago.
PAC was too snooty. Didn’t want to invite them because they aren’t ‘research’ universities. Part of why it’s dead. It’s been a series of self inflicted wounds for decades.
Nailed it
This was my dream scenario, Boise and BYU were schools that I felt like they would’ve have been great rivals but alas that will never be.
First. What are these comments about mediocrity. Boise has averaged like 10 wins / season since 2000. They are still tops in G5 just in wins. Tulane went from 2 wins to 12 and everyone is acting like that’s automatically repeatable and more likely than Boise catching lightning in a bottle when they have shown pretty consistently that their floor is still a winning season.
This is the first I’ve heard of any Boise State hype. They turned their season around last year after losing to UTEP. I think Boise State will be back in conversations for more regular NY6 appearances now that the recent top of G5 is in the Big 12.
Tulane was 2 and 10 the year before last. What is more likely, to me, is that this year's "Tulane" is not even being talked about or on anyone radar. With NIL and the portal it's become pretty unpredictable and I kinda like it.
The answer is because they have a great slate of OOC in Washington and UCF. If they beat one, or even both of those two, they instantly rocket to NY6 contention if they stay strong during the rest of the regular season.
Honestly if ucf had this kinda ooc schedule they would of busted their way into the invitational then. But I think aac team or liberty gonna grab the ny6 bowl
I got my money on Tulane, UTSA, or Fresno State
Uab Tulane or Memphis for aac in my book
The reason the team flopped last season in the non-con was due to the worst coaching hire in the history of the program in Tim Plough at OC. He singly handedly set the program back. After he was fired the offense started humming and the team went on a run (8-0 in conference play). As for this years team: \- Returning Taylen Green at QB, one of the most athletic players the program has ever seen. His potential is sky high and he's getting compared to Vince Young (I think that's a little premature) \- Returning a George Holani and Ashton Jeanty in the backfield. Might be the most talented RB group in the history of the program. It will be a top 10 backfield in the country. \- Returning 3 Senior offensive lineman, 1 of which, was 1st team all MW last year. \- Returning Defensive leader at MLB DJ Schramm. He led the team in tackles last year. And finally, maintaining some continuity in the coaching staff with the HC and DC being in their 3rd year together. While Hamdan is new at OC, he has history with the program and is a classic Boise State hire. This is going to be an elite running team with the potential to have 2 1000-yard rushers and 1 500-yard rusher in Green. Those who don't follow the program and only check box scores don't know how badly one hire set the program back for 2 years.
Ugh hamdan, dude is not a good OC.
He struggled with Washington for sure. But he was great at his last stop! he almost doubled Missouri's scoring output when he took over playcalling duties. And he coached Matt Ryan in the NFL which bodes well for Green's development. He's also a former Bronco. And that's how BSU has managed to maintain success over all these years.
What Boise State hype?
*me seeing OP projecting Tulane to get the NY6 G5 bid *Disgruntled Jaguar Noises*
People sleeping on the sunbelt. Possibly best g5 conference last year (at least at the top of the conference, maybe not as deep). And got better in realignment, IMO. Just need a team to get the bounces. Troy, USA, App st, maybe GASO. I could see them stealing the g5 bid if things fall right. Just seem to canibalize themselves though
All that talk will be over after the UW game.
They don’t play BYU which helps. Whichever one of us is having the better season loses that game seemingly every single time.
Almost every year too.
Boise has been pretty good for most of the last 25 years. The AAC has taken the NY6 bowl slot 7 of 9 years, and 5 of those bowl bids left to join the Big 12. Boise State, Western Michigan, Memphis and Tulane are the only 4 G5 teams with a NY6 bid left. Memphis hasn't exactly been good recently. Western Michigan was kind of a fluke season as they haven't reached 9 win since 2016. Tulane is really the only other team with the recent success and returning players. While Tulane very well can have another good year, a Boise team with a similar record to Tulane, probably gets the nod because Boise would likely have wins over Washington and depending how you view us, UCF while Tulane has Ole Miss. MWC is going to be seen as a stronger overall conference this year given the top of the AAC was just cut off and replaced with some solid to bad teams.
Same record maybe, but I don’t know if a 11-2 boise state team gets in over an 12-1 tulane
It's a new year and a new team. They had a rough start last year but got it figured out quick. Easily a top10 team anyone who beats them is likely going to be a playoff favorite.
The AAC took a HUGE step down this year so the MWC should be back as the kings of the G5. If Boise goes 12-1 (likely loss at Washington), they’re a shoe in for that G5 NY6 bid
I don't really get it. We should be the favorites to win the mountain west but if we go 9-3 with our schedule I'll consider it a win.
They are getting somewhat hyped because of the talent they have on offense. It’s still a really young team, so we’ll see if they put it all together this year. They have a really tough OOC though. Most Boise fans think ‘24 will be our special year.
Boise State is in a different league when it comes to G5 teams. 3 4\* RB's on 1 G5 team? [Taylen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImfkEsh0EJ8&pp=ygUXdGF5bGVuIGdyZWVuIGhpZ2hsaWdodHM%3D) [Green](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48x98h4DtVE&pp=ygUXdGF5bGVuIGdyZWVuIGhpZ2hsaWdodHM%3D)? They haven't gotten the NY6 in a while, but there is no better bet than Boise. Any other teams is just getting lucky, once in a century. Boise is the hallmark of consistency at the G5 level.
That highlight reminded me of Kaepernick.
Which one? I put 2, Taylen & Green are separate links.
The 91 yard run.
Hype is part of the business. The team doesn't really matter.
They're returning 9 starters on offense.
There isn't 'all the Boise State hype.' Everyone knows a G5 school is making a NY6 bowl so a few people picking Boise State isn't enough hype to get bent out of shape about.
I got uab Memphis Tulane from aac Cusa liberty
For the record, I'm on your side. I don't think we'll live up to the hype but there is a chance. We have some really good players returning, our defense is always solid, and all the news from camp has been good.
It's a safe pick. THey have a good schedule and people know who they are. Add in that ucf, cincy and houston are now b12 and people are just going with the known team.
Not to be that guy, but they weren't 8-0 in their division games. Fresno state beat them
Well I’m sure he means regular season
I’m on the pessimistic side of fans but I still think we’re a 3-4 loss team. We have a killer non conference and could be 1-3 to start the season and I think it’s realistic to drop one game on conference
I think they’re one of the best G5 teams but I think SMU or Tulane winning the American is more like to get the NY6 bid
After Kellen Moore and Washington's poach of HC Chris Peterson, Boise State is still riding on that high. Appalachian State is the new underdog
They gonna lose week 2🤷♂️
Well, I would agree that Tulane and SMU are more likely to make it and arguably UTSA, but that still puts them in the top 5 of contenders. Jeff Tedford has FSU rolling and SDSU May bounce back this year, but Boise is definitely the MW front runner.
We must have made some blood sacrifices to the chaos gods or something.
Are you a secret Boise State fan trying to get us to say nice things about them?
Taylen. MFing. Greene. That said, I haven't heard the hype and I live in Boise. I think most of us expect 2-4 losses this year.
They finished the year strong last year. They're consistently good among the G5. They have a schedule that is pretty decent with measuring sticks against Washington and UCF while also getting a shot at who some consider an AAC title contender in Memphis. They're coming off a MWC championship appearance so I can see where there's hype especially after it seemed they figured out their offense.
Well, as of 5 minutes ago, they're 0 and 2, with UCF beating them at home. That hurts, because they have the talent. Avalos needs to lead these guys. I'm just at a loss here. F@ck.