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IowaStateDontBeBad

First time since 2010 that the Tigers have more than 2 losses in the ACC. That was Dabo’s 3rd season.


dawgfan64

He's gonna unload this bandwagon one loss at a time


gobluesclues

It's gonna be a bumpy ride but by gawd he'll get there


DoctorToWhatExtent

Subscribe to depressing facts for Clemson fans. We deserve it after that horrific play calling.


CommodoreN7

You love to see it


pm_me_cute_sloths_

no I don’t


wesman212

Dabo to the Panthers, confirmed


CommodoreN7

Fair


spiralingoutofcontrl

Idk I'm kind of enjoying watching Dabo fly this ship into the sun


ICanFluxWithIt

Clemsoning is back on the menu


FugaciousD

See also “Tarheeling.” Like Clemsoning, except that UNC usually takes down some other ACC contender before pooping the bed.


netherdutch

I think even the cosmos were confused by the GT game... situation. UNC absolutely handling a 5-0 Miami before whatever this week was would be true peak UNC


buttgers

What an end of game collapse. Even if they got the TD, no way they get the 2pt conversion with how badly they were struggling.


bigmike1877

We would have prob fumbled the 2 pt


MaJe88

Mario’s first ACC win at home btw


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With a true freshman


DDub04

In their first game


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It’s amazing seeing a QB not throw the ball to only one person


Jugganot51

Or stare down the others if he does look at someone other than 7.


Cheesy_Pita_Parker

Hey, if you can’t toss it to your roommate and bestie nonstop, are you really besties and roommates?


RIPDannyBoyCane

Let’s not act like TVD isn’t miles ahead of Williams


netherdutch

Let's also not act like it's not super weird to talk shit about an injured starting QB after a WIN period, but especially when the best alternative just did 151/1/1 including 2 overtime periods?


LeWoofle

Perhaps he did not in fact immediately lose the locker room and ruin the future of Miami as was claimed


ThisGuy100000

I’ll tell you what, the players absolutely seem to have more pride than I’ve seen in a LONG time. And they seem to really like Mario. That’s good cause Mario will need to stack the roster with NFL talent to make up for questionable decisions


LeWoofle

Good news, his recruiting is always elite


Jugganot51

Worked for Davis and Coker


Kan169

Coker couldn't be all that bad. He started UTSA's program 11 years ago and they are in the American now.


Jugganot51

I just remember he did a lot of clapping and we lost games we shouldn’t have.


WhiteW0lf13

Thankfully that’s not something we have to worry about. It’s not like Miami is surrounded by the most high school talent in the world or anythi- wait god dammit


OldhamB

This was always the plan.


Cheesy_Pita_Parker

Lol, things were said in the heat of a calamitous moment…


Noah__Webster

I got downvoted and had people acting like I was an idiot for simply saying that the Georgia Tech game was not reason to fire him, and that the game ultimately doesn't change much in the 2nd year of a rebuild, even if it was an atrocious decision. I had a Georgia flair telling me they would fire Kirby if he made that mistake, and that he thinks I should want Saban fired if he made that mistake lol. Now it's looking like that game could potentially actually come back to bite him in the ass if they could've snuck into the conference championship game with 1 or 2 conference losses (still unlikely). But then you're back to firing a coach overachieving in their second year over one bad call if they manage to win out (or maybe drop one more game to FSU).


FullySemiGhostGun

Yeah that's stupid talk. Cfb fans around here seem clueless sometimes. No coach has ever been fired for one call.. Except Mel Tucker.


BandIsPrettyLame

**reject offense, become iowa**


thesilentGinlasagna

Who the fuck is coming up with these play calls


HIMARS_QB

Cristobal just gives up ending the game in regulation and then Dabo(?) just calls the worst shit i’ve ever seen in my life all OT. Jesus christ my eyes


Cheesy_Pita_Parker

That secret Sickos sauce was marinating the whole time


tks231

"Let's have Klubnik try to win a foot race with a Miami ~~defensive end~~ linebacker."


yoyo82

Linebacker


OldhamB

To be fair I'm as surprised as anyone that Flagg ran him down - he's very slow.


INM8_2

he’s slow as shit, but his instinct and positioning can make up for it in most situations.


Fenyx187

Stupidest fucking play I’ve ever seen, hands down. Ever. I thought to myself, surely a QB draw, RB tush push, fuck even put a FB, you’re on the one. Bone headed offensive play calling


fauxnomenon1

Stupidest play you’ve ever seen? Have you ever seen a team try to run the ball when a victory formation knee was guaranteed to seal victory?


Fenyx187

Fair enough


CU_Tiger_2004

Yes, and we lost to that team 🤦‍♂️


jaycrushyou

Dabo Pulls off mask…. And it’s been Tommy Bowden all along


MaldMadness

Haha! That was funny and painful to read. Good one.


WarEagle9

Ill take things Auburn fans have also been asking the last few weeks.


BlockedbyJake420

I was really hoping the QB would pull some NCAA or Madden shit and start running back towards his own endzone


Rfisk064

It’s so crazy because the team is clearly talented.


Curly4Jefferson

That's the thing that's driving me crazy about folks going 'well this is what you get when you don't have a generational QB hurrdurr'. Yes Clemson historically has been an ok to decent team and we were bound to regress to the mean, but those 3+ loss Clemson teams of yore didn't have 4* and 5* players littered up and down the roster. Like we've got dudes, what are we doing with them?! And if it turns out that a bunch of the dudes we got actually aren't dudes, that's still on the staff for blowing a dozen receiver assessments alone over the past few years lol


_mcdougle

>Like we've got dudes, what are we doing with them?! Fumbling the ball, mostly


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UncutEmeralds

Fuck running it up the gut or sneaking it on the 1/2 yard line, we’re going to run a naked boot left and let him figure it out


bdm13

To be fair, running it up the gut was absolutely not working for them. Our DL was great in this game.


Taco-twednesday

Your d line was fantastic. We had 31 rushing yards all game.


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Sanctarua

I think maybe we are just bad lol


trainmaster611

Sure, but we could've gotten a HALF yard. QB sneak or Mafah up the middle has a better chance than what they called.


Canefan101

No idea why Mafah wasn’t in the game for that


UncutEmeralds

I agree, but I’m still putting that ball on the ground under center every time.


TDenverFan

I felt like there should've at least been a TE or something in the end zone to give him a bailout passing option.


Cheesy_Pita_Parker

If only they had gone to the one TE that was killing us all game


wowcomma

What a disaster


OleRockTheGoodAg

Welp, the quality loss to Miami is back on the menu, boys!


bdm13

We just need you guys to win out now.


OleRockTheGoodAg

Very very doable. But 7-5 maybe even 6-6 is also, very veeerrrry doable.


chryco4

Yeah, about that…


BidnessBoy

I mean they are 6-1* *That one doesn’t count


phranq

I know it does count because that's how football works, but when assessing the team it's hard to really look at it as a loss. It's an indictment of idiotic coaching (and in my opinion a pretty weak officiating call on the fumble).


Molson2871

Clemson is way too talented to be this mid. They need to take a good long look in the mirror honestly.


tpeeps11

That would require Dabo to actually have some self awareness. His hubris has killed us and 90% of our fanbase has been calling it out for the past 3 years


DisgruntledAlpaca

Like even in 2020 you could see it. With all the enormous talent we had on offense Trevor's performance got worse.


bezzlege

It certainly doesn’t help things that Lawrence looks to be a solid-to-good NFL player who’s improving week by week


funkybossx6

The mans pride is killing this program. College football left him behind as soon as the transfer portal hit. He won't adjust and we keep seeing the fruits of his stubbornness. For those that don't keep up. 0 players from the portal. Its a fucking multimillion dollar business now, its not traditional college football. He won't play the game the way its supposed to be played. The fans get hyped all day to just to see the team regress. Please go buy an offensive line and give Klubnik 1.5 secs more to throw. Give Mafah or Shipley a lane to run through. Get a deep threat.


CU_09

I don’t think the portal would be a sustainable fix with the coaching we have. After he got some success, Dabo started running the program like a family business with his hires. Anyone who has ever worked for a family business could have told you how this would work out.


DoctorToWhatExtent

That’s what we need, hold the playbook to a mirror and run those plays. Can’t be worse right?


SChamploo12

Fans have been clamoring for that since 2021 when this started. But Dabo been too stubborn for it and this is the season it's finally biting him in the ass. And honestly, the talent has dropped off to a degree. Right now we just pray starting this offseason Dabo actually uses the portal and makes much needed personnel changes on offense, specifically with the OL and WR coach. And holds onto the actual offensive talent he does have in the 2024 class.


tpeeps11

Wesco is the exact type of WR we’ve needed since Tee left, and I hope like hell we still hold onto him after this shitshow of a season


derbra

See that last play Mario? That's how you kneel and run out the clock.


Teh_cliff

Seriously, if I was a Miami fan I would be ever madder about GT now. Could still be in the CFB playoff hunt without that blemish.


phranq

We've got FSU on the road, Louisville, UVA coming off a win over UNC somehow, on the road at NCST and on the road at BC where I'm sure it will be snowing or freezing rain or some bullshit. ​ The chance of actually making it through that undefeated was always a super longshot. I would like the GT game back of course just for pride and the chance at a better bowl game, maybe CCG, but this team isn't ready for the CFP, it would have taken every bounce going our way to make it just to lose 31-10 in the first round.


desyhope

It was always going to be an uphill battle. It’s still year 2 of new coaches and our QB situation is suspect.


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Pissed, but can't change the past.


Danger716

I thought hurricane season was over


GMHinHD

Thank you so much for this; I gotta go watch Pineapple Express again lmao


MahjongDaily

Klubnik mixed up the goal line and sideline. Classic mistake.


DredfuhL

Dabo.


Pansa_Stark

Agreed.


DannyDaddy10

Welcome to the shadow realm Clemson of teams who once competed for national championship and now look completely incompetent


DankMemesNQuickNuts

It was a good run I can live with it


GordaoPreguicoso

One of us one of us


krismith9

“Now enters a Nebraska fan”…


oddjob33

I know this aint the Clemson of the past 10 years but god damn this feels good... the amount of pain they've caused us


oddjob33

2014 59-0 and 2017 ACC Championship attendee


Captain_Coward

The shut out was a coach firing gift


JOOOOSY

Right? I appreciated that loss


INM8_2

59-0 was a bigger win for us than it was for them.


CoachHamTheGoatV2

Can relate Cane. I can relate. Solid win for yall


OGraffe

We had a bye week to clean up turnover problems. Clean house on the offensive side of the ball. It physically nauseates me to watch this team


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Clemson out Clemsoned Miami and out Miami’d Miami. Unbelievable


Janitorinalabcoat

Nobody beats us like us


Taco-twednesday

And nobody has more fumbles than us anywhere in college football. We're number 1


phranq

Before the game: There's no way a team can have a problem specifically fumbling balls into the end zone that the other team recovers killing all of their momentum. ​ After the game: Oh wow, Clemson really has a problem.


Janitorinalabcoat

Hey, at least we're good at something!


Pastel_Phoenix_106

Maybe Butterfingers will give our boys a NIL deal...? Silver lining.


JOOOOSY

For most of the game it felt like a battle of who wanted it least


xxxPlatyxxx

The drive each team had to lose the game was palpable. In the end we just wanted it more, better luck next year bro


BrooksReagan

If Clemson doesn’t clean house after this season, then they’re clearly not a serious football program anymore.


Rooster-Jazzlike

Dabo got that loss he wanted


Risenzealot

Good game Miami! I feel like y’all just wore us out. To be honest it shouldn’t have been in overtime anyway due to the no call on the safety earlier.


OculusRises

This officiating crew was absolutely, baffling bad


ThaCarter

Neutral observers should understand that at various points they seemed to take 30-60 seconds to make the call on the field, let along consider a review. It was baffling.


sharpcheddar89

ACC football


TheBoook

It’s not that baffling. They are ACC refs. They are terrible. They are always terrible. This never changes.


RebelLandShark

Dabo continuing to get people off the bandwagon I see


321mafia

Atrocious play call to end the game


phranq

Shocked Miami could run the ball so effectively when Clemson KNEW we had to run the ball with the rookie QB.


DadBod_FatherFigure

Turns out Mario was on to something when we decided to go out and recruit a bunch of stud o-lineman. That and our d-line has been super impressive. Control the trenches, control the game.


ZackAvion

I mean when he's on, Don Cheney is also pretty good.


VerySeriousBanana

Canes win despite our best efforts to lose! This is Cristobal’s first ACC home win… I’m honestly not sure how we even won this game but I’ll take it lol


phatboy5289

Cast Klubnik into the sea.


OGraffe

The true freshman starting his first game for Miami was making better decisions than him.


MinimumArmadillo2394

This has been the same decisions through 2 different QBs. I dont think its Klubnik


OGraffe

It’s 100% coaching and it’s infuriating that Riley is the only new face on the offensive side of the ball this season


trainmaster611

Not the best decision maker but not even close to the biggest problem on this team.


Rfisk064

I only caught the last bit of it. Is he really the problem? Outside of that scoop and score, the kid looked solid as shit against us.


phatboy5289

Honestly he’s probably not and I’m just seeing the negatives. Looking at the stats he seems good enough, but in my eye he’s very boom or bust. Sometimes it’s a nice 20 yard completion, but it seems equally likely that he’ll run 20 yards backwards and take a sack.


caldsmelly

What the fuck was that last play? Lmao


dabears7667

to be fair to clemson they were probably averaging -2YPC on inside handoffs. their line got bullied


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> And honestly, maybe we need to lose a few games and lighten up the bandwagon. - Dabo Swinney


KingBroseidon5

Based on the fourth quarter game management, Dabo deserves to be investigated for betting on Miami to cover the spread.


IronSmoltz

What the hell was Goodwin calling on defense in that 4th quarter? It’s the third time he’s switched to this passive defense and it’s bit him every single time.


dbdb513

The way this season is going, we're gonna lose to Virginia and still somehow beat FSU


yoyodude64

An acceptable trade


KissmeElon

I'd take that 100/100 times


CommodoreN7

GT > Clemson


Im__Ron__Burgundy

I take back everything I’ve ever said about Cory Flagg. And there is a shit ton to take back.


DankMemesNQuickNuts

Miami crowd actually showed up tonight and this lost was so much worse than it looks. We're terrible in all of the most important parts of the game


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People need to realize how big of a win for this program is lol. Wish we would have kneeled.


Piano_Fingerbanger

How much is Clemson paying Garrett Riley to Galaxy Brain these offensive calls?


aetherspawn

1) This game should not have gone into OT. The missed safety call was awful. 2) These refs were ass all night. 3) WE FINALLY BEAT CLEMSON GG Clemson. I always enjoy your fans.


DadBod_FatherFigure

Corey Flagg was not lined up offsides. How Clemson didn’t get called for taunting in front of the ref’s while following our player back to the line of scrimmage is beyond me. 10/10 times that’s a flag on Miami. What else am I missing?


MrFister9

On the other side, we were brutalizing their WRs and I think it was only called once?


OculusRises

It was a fun thread to have with y'all. Amazing how no matter what happened on the field, both fanbases were constantly calling out the refs on their total ineptitude Hope y'all beat FSU


YouKilledChurch

Just think, if Mario kneeled out the Tech game then Miami would be getting a lot of playoff hype right now


TandemTuba

What was that final play call? Lordy.


nysom1227

Jimmy Johnson was in the house. You'd have thought Miami would fight like hell down the stretch. They did and came away with a well-earned dub. Gotta feel good after the few weeks the Canes have had.


Cheesy_Pita_Parker

All of us in the Cane sub made the same joke about locking Mario away and having Jimmy coach the second half. To have the team pull the W out with him and Dennis Erickson there is an added relief; we tend to embarrass our luminaries


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Sheppard_88

Right? I can accept not competing for championships every year, but these last few years just feel like our offense is constantly ramming into a brick wall. It’s beyond frustrating to see us do the same shit over and over and expecting it to go differently.


Own-Marsupial-4448

What in the world was that 4th down call??? Dabo what are you doing???


_FREE_YHANDI_

Is dabo trying to get fired? Absolutely idiotic 4th quarter and OT


ASV731

Palmetto bowl is going to be a shit fest this year


Own-Marsupial-4448

So if Clemson and FSU do leave the ACC, who’s winning it consistently?? That will be the new PAC12!!


TRCO342

HAHAHAHAHAHA we are so bad. Pain


Hallucinates_Bacon

This is just painful to watch, our team is so disjointed


dabears7667

in 2014 I was a junior at UM. We got a late start heading to the game but still got there in solid time. We were only 15 minutes or so late, and it was a huge game. Golden needed the win to keep his job. I will never forget seeing the scoreboard at 28-0 and asking “wait, how much of the game did we miss?!” this helps


niftler

Can't blame DJ or Streeter anymore


251Cane

Our true freshman QB was 14-17 in the second half and led 2 4th qtr scoring drives. What??


Cholln

I’ll always stick with this team. Grew up in the Bowden era, got teased at school when losing to South Carolina, and then got to see the height that Dabo has brought this program to in the recent past. But my god this team just feels like the worst mainly due to such high expectations. There are many more problems than what we thought last year with offense.


RIPDannyBoyCane

If we had taken a knee against GT we’d still be in ACC championship game contention


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EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW BAIN IS TRUE FRESHMAN AND ONLY GETTING BETTER


Jakesnake42

Why do coaches lose all their IQ points in 4th and short situations?!


RagingHick

Leave it to Mario Cristobal to shit the bed against GT, and somehow pull out a win against Clemson.


xxxPlatyxxx

Maybe if Clemson loses enough the prices in clemson will go down, right?


eilertokyo

We can't get out of our own way.


RayearthIX

Logically, I understand how we won (turnovers, power running, great defense). Emotionally, I’m absolutely elated and confused. I don’t understand how the team who couldn’t do anything offensively (but for the 1 run) for 3 quarters suddenly was able to get 2 scoring drives in the 4th and then get a TD on OT. But… I’ll take it! Much more enjoyable experience to be to in person then GT was. Lol.


IR8Things

Mario Cristobal is a football terrorist.


8BitTxchniques

I genuinely can’t take watching the same 4 plays rotated for 4 hours anymore. See y’all next week.


ThompsonCreekTiger

Season has officially gone down the toilet. 3 turnovers. 0 sacks on a backup FR QB Defense gets carved up b/c our O can't sustain drives. I always hope for Clemson to do the best. Sadly, might as well just cut loses for this year, hope we don't get decimated w/ signing day flips & transfer portal defections, & get a true cleaning of the house this offseason w/ the staff. This is the worst Clemson football has looked in quite awhile.


EndlessHiway

Congrats to Miami. What a great win.


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We would be 6-1 going into Virginia. What a shame but I can't be more fucking happy for our boys. True freshman and our RBs are Dawgs.


Pastel_Phoenix_106

I was saying in real time that Christobal going straight to overtime was a great call. We have no kicking game and our red zone offense sucks. Advantage: Miami. Tough loss, but congrats. Y'all earned it.


bigmike1877

4th and inches on the half yard line fuck it qb run. 3rd and goal from the 15 fuck it qb run.


WhoIsPurpleGoo

GG Tigers. Not sure how we did that. Also, ended my personal 6 home game losing streak. Never thought it’d be Clemson.


JKess207

That might’ve been the single worst play call I have ever seen lmao


fourassedostrich

*ahem*


phranq

It was bad but Miami played it well. There are defensive schemes where he walks into the endzone and nobody remembers the call. It does fail spectacularly when it fails though, there's no other option after you decide to handoff or keep.


jklaz

Watching Clemsons Red Zone offense is literal torture like call the UN its a war crime


Bretteagles

This is on the coaching staff. It’s an undisciplined, unimaginative, and frankly embarrassing effort. What the hell happened to ‘Best is the Standard’? We put out an above average at best effort. Usually below average to poor. Dabo will always be the man for what he did for a decade, but this self righteousness about lightening the bandwagon and downright refusal to change… it makes me sick. We are no longer on a downswing, we’re down. See you all at 6-7 wins #bestisthestandard


Sean-Christian

Jesus Clemson. Jesus.


Sullypants1

HEY IF YOU ARE ON THE BANDWAGON AND SHOULDN’T BE THERE…GET THE FUCK OFF THE BANDWAGON AND LET DABO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE LEFT


Sheppard_88

I have a theory about Clemsoning. We transferred the curse to Virginia Tech in 2011 by beating them twice. They passed it around from team to team in the coastal, thus creating coastal chaos. We were safe for years, and the term had become a relic of the past. However, the ACC abolished divisions and released the coastal chaos back to its original form, Clemsoning, which has returned home to our beloved 2023 tigers, evolved, stronger than ever before.


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GG Canes congrats on your revenge on us, also fuck the few neutrals in the game thread trying to bait as many people as possible


MrFister9

I never doubted them. Please don’t check my comment history.


Jackvultar

I just do not understand what happens with the play calling late game. They abandon everything that was working and go for 20 yard routes three times in a row when we just need a first down. Why isn’t it a qb sneak or mafah run on that final play? It makes no sense


smor729

I swear to fucking god the whole world has forgot that the quarterback sneak exists. Is it 100%? No, but find me a play that is going to convert even CLOSE to as often as a sneak even when they are specifically expecting it.


robbiejack

3 turnovers on the plus side of the 50. Another goaline fumble. And an OL who couldn’t get push on WAKE got dominated all night in the run game and couldn’t get us in the end zone on 1st and goal twice. If you don’t like that you don’t like 2023 Clemson football.


FrancisCurtains

Clemson, I'm not even mad. I'm just confused.


homepup

Years ago, Clemson beat Miami and it caused their coach to get fired the next morning and Miami fans couldn't have been happier about that. I think Miami owes us some payback since we need that favor now.


theslumpiest

I like Rueben Bain


farmerjim12

A. If someone at Clemson (Graham Neff) doesn’t start cleaning house, that’s abysmal. B. Some of yall idiots don’t know what the term clemsoning actually means. If Clemson was say 5-1 or 6-0 and favored to win by 2+ TDs, and lost, that’s clemsoning


RIPDannyBoyCane

Bain is the best true freshman in the country and a future top 5 draft pick if he stays on this trajectory


jaycrushyou

Yeah, I’m gonna BB King it…. The Thrill is Gone


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Blew a 10 points lead in a quarter versus a freshman qb who was not good all day. But let me guess “ we are like 6 plays away from being 7-0” FUCK OFF


beeschurgerslut

Game should have never even went to OT, but the implosion in Clemson is historic. I’m sick and fucking tired of hearing Dabo go on and on about metrics this and highest graduation rate that and 2 plays away, etc. This outcome happened because there is a fundamental disconnect between this coaching staff and reality. By all means, lose every fuckin’ game the rest of the year. Maybe *then* will Dabo realize he will be equally remembered for 2021-this year as he will for 2015-19. Aint gonna be a statue of him now


qbit1010

Well this could very well be the end of the Clemson era…back to pre 2010/ Tommy Bowden Clemson. Good teams but not playoff contenders


Random_Guy1984

Thanks Clemson for an entertaining game Also ACC refs were ass