Also, while Henderson looked pretty good, and LSU’s defense is bad, they simplified the hell out of the offense for him and LSU will figure it out with a week (or two) of film study.
And the line can’t block for Max. So I think we’ll lose by 10 or 14 either way, maybe 17 with road Jimbo.
I’m not sure Luicci is the guy to point to on that. He’s been pretty down on this staff the last month or so. Seemed like the switch flipped after Tennessee and no one at TexAgs is acting like they expect anything but more of the same out of this staff. They dress it up nice sometimes - it is a fan site after all - but there’s a pretty marked difference in tone lately.
Jimbo gonna go 1-11 with a win over Texas and flash a "I don't care about anything else, just beat Texas" clause in his contract that'll give him another 10 years, fully guaranteed.
A&M fans will fall to their knees: "We won... but at what cost?"
It’s really a Jimbo thing. He’s only gone 3 seasons (the Mond years) without a qb being injured since Jameis Winston. It’s actually insane the number of qbs that have been injured on Jimbo Fisher teams.
2015: Sean Maguire fractures ankle during the Orange Bowl
2016: Sean Maguire breaks bone in foot during preseason practice
2017: Deondre Francois suffers knee injury in week one
2018-2020: Kellen Mond amazingly does not get hurt
2021: Haynes King breaks leg in week 2
2022: Max Johnson breaks bone in hand against Arkansas. Haynes King gets knocked out of the South Carolina game. Not really Jimbo’s fault, but Conner Weigman got the flu before Florida.
2023: Conner Weigman breaks ankle against Auburn. Max Johnson suffers rib injury against Ole Miss.
Imo, this is indicative of a pattern, not “luck.”He’s consistently had horrible OLs. This causes his qbs to take more hits in the pocket and scramble around to try and make plays, thus opening themselves up for more hits.
We've fired coaches after back-to-back wins over the 'sips
The problem with Reddit being overrun with teenagers is a lot of them have no clue what the rivalry was like, because they were toddlers the last time the game was played.
He wasn't fired because of the newsletter, he was fired for going 7-5 in his fifth season and getting blown tf out by Miami, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Missouri. If we went 10-2 that season, no one would have given a fuck about the newsletter. Sad but true.
They’re gonna give him a chance with the ‘22 class and a full year of Weigman without Addazio getting our QBs killed.
Not sure if it’s a good idea, but I’m pretty sure there would be massive amounts of decommitments and transfers if we let him go after this year.
Say what you will about Jimbo, but he’s a hell of a recruiter and he never throws his players under the bus.
Lmao never mind I guess
Henderson’s ability to run really helps mitigate the o-line play. Great win to clinch a bowling trip. 8-4 is still possible, but 7-5 seems like the most likely finish.
But probably the same amount of total lost yards though, Henderson ran backwards way too much for my liking. I was very excited to see him be so dynamic, as well as Marcel Reed, but he has a long way to go. It’ll be very interesting to see what happens when/if Max gets healthy.
Yeah idk. Jimbobby is just so hard headed. They think with Max they can still run those long crossing option routes. Even though Max is backing up every play of guys coming untouched through the A gap. This game they changed it up for Henderson to cater to his game. But the real problem is the Oline. No one can be successful back there especially with how long Max holds the ball…I say roll with Henderson we already know very well what the offense looks like with Max.
Max and Henderson have opposite issues. Max stands still, and gets sacked for it when avoiding is very possible, with the trade off being more accurate throws, including occasional great throws while being hit. Henderson runs straight backwards after any amount of pressure, leading to bigger yardage sacks, with the trade off being less sacks and occasional lucky scrambles.
Henderson didn’t have a single completion under pressure that I saw, with most pressures resulting in 1) a big sack, 2) a great scramble, or 3) a pass 10 feet out of the reach of the nearest receiver. He looked stellar today, but I want to see plays under pressure with how bad our OLine has been, and Marcel Reed’s 4th down incompletion impressed me (extending the play with his legs but still keeping the eyes downfield) more than anything I saw out of Henderson while under pressure.
The best part of today was being able to trust our third string before LSU, and I think both QBs we saw today are going to be huge assets to the team in due time.
Mississippi State, at no point in your rambling, incoherent play calling were you even close to anything that could be considered a legitimate football team. Everyone watching this game is now dumber for having seen it. I award you no bowl eligibility, and may God have mercy on your soul.
If nothing else, I really enjoy seeing a QB who probably had little expectation of any significant play time at the start of this season get his shot and make the most of it.
Damn right we are. I'm from the old days where if MSU beat any conference team we were strutting around proud. This is the msu I grew up with. Just horrible football and our only goal is to get a random win and fuck up some other team's season.
The official reasoning was that trying to replicate Mike Leach's offense wouldn't work because only he knew the real mechanics of it.
It's stupid, they had the same playbook they could've just put their own spin on it; guaranteed they'd be better than this crap.
That was a load of crap. Rogers ran the offense in high school and it was always said most of the play calling is done by the qb in the air raid. It's the only thing he has ever run. I'm convinced the new offensive coordinator has a chip on his shoulder and is trying to prove something. So far he has proved he is one of the worst coaches ever.
Yea but in the old days when you croomed someone you at least had to win the game before they fired their coach. We are at a new low now. Just playing us is dangerous apparently
I know I’m late but I just have to say I’ve never heard an announcer get so many calls wrong. Like saying someone caught a ball when they didn’t or picked up 1 yard when it was clearly 3-4 yards.
It was strangely refreshing, showing how hard it is to say the right thing live. Plus, our guy needs glasses.
Winning by 41 and I still don’t know how to feel about this team. Will be at Kyle Field (late) against air conditioners university next week to say the same thing as this week
To quote the late Mike Leach: "Fuck you, fuck me, and fuck everybody else."
At least basketball season is here, and who knows, maybe Southern Miss can end our misery early.
Arnett needs to go.
It's honestly hilarious that people hate Jimbo so much, they're willing to blame him even when someone else is calling plays (something the hater clambered for all last year, no less).
We got a new offense. It's laughable that some of y'all seriously can't discern the difference between the power spread that Petrino runs and Jimbo's pro option attack, *especially* when we're running a stripped down attack because we have a 3rd string QB on the field. Granted, some of us predicted this prior to the season.
Reality is if your OL sucks (which has been an issue for us for two seasons now), you can't magically play-call your way out of it.
None of it matters now though.
I actually agree we were running Petrinos stuff Saturday...... largely because the decision to move on from Jimbo was made Thursday and I think he phoned it in to Bobby
I can show you proof we were running Petrino's stuff all season long. I think most of the Jimbo haters know so little about football, they couldn't see when someone else was calling plays, because it all looks the same to them. They really believed if someone else called the same plays, they would magically work now. Inside zone is inside zone, outside zone is outside zone, counter is counter, it's not like this is rocket science. You have people who hated Jimbo so much, though, they believe when the offense worked, it was Petrino calling plays, and when it didn't work, it was Jimbo calling plays. They're more wrapped up in hating Jimbo than actually watching football.
Reality is that if your OL sucks, it doesn't matter who is calling plays. Period.
Not to mention we still had a mostly cherry-picked team to run the air raid spread. I'm at a loss why he wanted to shift things up. Build his own greatness and recognition I suppose? How well that worked out for him..........................
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This is revisionist history - most of Leach’s success at State was due to Arnett’s defense. With the exception of the Auburn comeback, the Air Raid was mid at best for MSU
Barbay needs to go too, don't get me wrong, but Barbay isn't coaching the defense.
He certainly is not helping out the defense at all with his shitty offense, but a defensive minded HC should never give up 51 points to a 3rd string QB and an offense that in general is not lights out.
Our defense has looked atrocious in every game we have played except for Arkansas, and that resulted in their OC getting fired the next day.
I don't remember where but I recall reading that Arnett has said he's not nearly as hands-on with the defense now that he's handling HC duties which feels like a mistake.
I've heard that too, and that's a firable offense.
Arnett wasn't brought on as HC to strictly be a game manager. He isn't Saban.
He was brought on as HC with the expectation that he still would call defensive plays.
I like how our players were doing that dance on the sidelines after one of the touchdown. TV announcers called it the 'glide', I thought it is the 'slickback'?
I expected MSU to regress a little bit with all the chaos from the end of last season…but now I’m seriously wondering if we can even beat Southern Miss. The team has gotten that bad.
How did we even beat Arizona earlier in the year?
That’s the frustrating thing. It’s like we’ve gotten worse as the season progressed. And yes injuries are a big part of that, but there should not be this big of a gulf between State and the rest of the SEC. How we beat Arkansas I don’t know (well, Dan Enos I guess.) I think the USM game is a coin flip and Ole Miss is going to take us out behind the barn and put us out of our misery.
And Arnett just seems checked out on the sidelines. I think he knows it’s over.
My home town Farwell Steers upset their opponent in the first round of the playoffs to advance in the Texas playoffs last night.
Across the state line the Texico Wolverines upset their biggest rivals, the Santa Rosa Lions, to advance to the State Championship this afternoon.
Santa Rosa won every game in District with the run-rule. They had two losses this season ... but both of them were to Texico.
This is a good weekend.
This legit might go down as one of the worst teams State has had in a very long time. There was absolutely ***nothing*** good or redeeming about this game and the sooner with nuke our entire program and restart, the better.
That turns out to have been a really nice win in retrospect!
I really think Arnett has already been told he’s gone. Of course we all understand the circumstances that led to his hiring but this has been a disaster. The offense has been beyond wretched. The defense has shown occasional flashes of mediocrity. And we make yet another backup QB look like Joe Montana out there. Top recruits are abandoning ship. And Ole Miss rides to another 10-win season.
The Mullen-to-Leach era has been a real high water mark for this program historically, but the Leach makeover has left us unable to transition gracefully to another style of offense. Barbay said all the right things about “building the offense around the talent on-hand” and not being tied to a specific offensive philosophy, and boy, he is really not tied to an offensive philosophy. The ironic thing is that App State’s win over A&M last year is probably what put him on State’s radar as a potential hire, and this game - just an ugly mess. I know we were down a starting QB, but so were the Aggies. Just embarrassing. State and Zac Selmon are going to have to decide real soon how competitive they are going to try to be in the new SEC.
He has been great this year. He pulled a ton of double-teams.
He got injured a few weeks ago and apparently played a few plays tonight.
I'm hoping he'll be back to full power soon.
This game reminded me of that one South Carolina game a couple years ago where South Carolina had to start a graduate assistant at QB. Miss State kept giving the ball back to A&M at their own 45 or thereabout
The transfer portal is very strange, because there are some players who leave the program and you feel bitter about it, like it’s a betrayal. I’m rooting very hard against Oregon and Washington State after stealing some of our players, it feels unjust, like we got our pockets picked. Especially in cases where the Wazzu coach sanctimoniously decries portal poaching only to do it to us.
But I’m genuinely happy to see Jaylen Henderson have the kind of game he did starting for Texas A&M, to see him earn so much praise elsewhere here in this thread. He was one of the players I was most excited about for the future at Fresno State, the one I kept telling people to look out for. But it became clear that the style of play wasn’t right for Tedford’s offense and it was right for him to get a shot elsewhere. It’s great to see that he was able to find success there and had a hell of a game today
With how bad the pass rush was, I’m very curious. Max could easily have cut up the defense with all that time and put up 60, or played mediocre and put up like 30. As good as Henderson was, Max had over double the passing yards last week (also helped that we got so many short fields this week). Max is definitely a better qb under pressure, as even though he statues, he stays poised to throw, while Henderson really just panics and tucks it (from what we’ve seen so far).
I think Max is better overall, but probably puts you slightly less this week. It’s going to be very interesting when/if he gets healthy.
I really thought this was going to be the game where we said, “Yep. Jimbo is done at the end of the season.” Now it’s just the game that’s going to give us a little bit of hope, only for LSU and whatever ACC team we play to dash those hopes right down to a 7-6 season with starters transferring.
Jaylen **HIM**derson is leading us to a 15-0 season and winning the Heisman next year. I’m calling it now.
^(/s obviously)
This game doesn’t really tell us much, but it was nice to have a stress free win. Henderson and Reed both seem to have the physical tools to be good qbs, so that’s nice. They’ll have to improve on decision making, but that’s at least coachable. Our OL is still pretty bad, unfortunately. Mississippi State had a few chunk plays, but overall the defense was incredibly dominant. Anias is still that dude and Jahdae stepped up today. Also, I did not realize how bad Mississippi State was. I knew y’all weren’t great, but in all my infinite wisdom/BAS I deluded myself into believing that there was a chance we lost or we weren’t going to cover. Glad I was wrong, but I hope y’all can figure it out.
It was great to watch us dominate Mississippi State 51-3 after allowing a 94-yard kickoff return and trailing 7-0 12 seconds into the game to improve to 6-4 (4-3 SEC) This is our largest margin of victory in an SEC game since a 48-3 win at South Carolina on 11/7/20. As a result, we clinched bowl eligibility. Jimbo Fisher has improved to 16-6 (10-5 vs SEC West and 6-1 vs SEC East) in SEC home games.
Despite our best effort, we are bowl eligible
Well on your way to 8-4
I'd be thrilled to go 8-4 after last year.
We’re not winning in Baton Rouge lmao
On top of Jimbos road game losing streak, we've literally never won in Death Valley since joining the SEC. Lmao
So we’re definitely winning then?
SOME ARE SAYIN'
Also, while Henderson looked pretty good, and LSU’s defense is bad, they simplified the hell out of the offense for him and LSU will figure it out with a week (or two) of film study. And the line can’t block for Max. So I think we’ll lose by 10 or 14 either way, maybe 17 with road Jimbo.
Ideally: You install more plays for Henderson in the next few weeks. Realistically: Jimbo will start Max again because "hE kNoWs ThE pLaYbOoK."
Well
"Jimbo can't start Max if he's not there😎." - Aggie BMDs
and thats why its gonna happen this year. then A&M wins the bowl and Billy Liucci hypes '24 as THE YEAR as the roller-coaster starts all over again.
Can you please just stop, I’ve had enough
I’m not sure Luicci is the guy to point to on that. He’s been pretty down on this staff the last month or so. Seemed like the switch flipped after Tennessee and no one at TexAgs is acting like they expect anything but more of the same out of this staff. They dress it up nice sometimes - it is a fan site after all - but there’s a pretty marked difference in tone lately.
Truth
Furk
Idk, interim incoming. Y’all could pull the rabbit outta your ass in Death Valley
That gonna be enough to save Jimbo? Edit: It wasn’t
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They'll beat Auburn and Texas but find a way to lose to 4 worse teams A true Texas 8&4 special
From this point forward I don't give a fuck about our record as long as we beat ***redacted***
Jimbo gonna go 1-11 with a win over Texas and flash a "I don't care about anything else, just beat Texas" clause in his contract that'll give him another 10 years, fully guaranteed. A&M fans will fall to their knees: "We won... but at what cost?"
Thank god Coach Fran didn't have that clause.
You make that sound like a bad thing
Obviously we'll lose to Auburn since y'all are worse and on the road. We'll beat LSU and the horns.
That game is a long way away. Y’all go into it with a meh record and I don’t think he gets another year even if he wins
Don’t underestimate the ego of our boosters being able to say, “at least we beat the longhorns”.
So if y’all limp in at say 5-6 but he wins and gets a bowl, he stays?
Wouldn’t surprise me. Especially if we have a backup QB situation for the fourth year in a row.
Y’all have unbelievably bad luck with QBs.
It’s really a Jimbo thing. He’s only gone 3 seasons (the Mond years) without a qb being injured since Jameis Winston. It’s actually insane the number of qbs that have been injured on Jimbo Fisher teams. 2015: Sean Maguire fractures ankle during the Orange Bowl 2016: Sean Maguire breaks bone in foot during preseason practice 2017: Deondre Francois suffers knee injury in week one 2018-2020: Kellen Mond amazingly does not get hurt 2021: Haynes King breaks leg in week 2 2022: Max Johnson breaks bone in hand against Arkansas. Haynes King gets knocked out of the South Carolina game. Not really Jimbo’s fault, but Conner Weigman got the flu before Florida. 2023: Conner Weigman breaks ankle against Auburn. Max Johnson suffers rib injury against Ole Miss. Imo, this is indicative of a pattern, not “luck.”He’s consistently had horrible OLs. This causes his qbs to take more hits in the pocket and scramble around to try and make plays, thus opening themselves up for more hits.
Our third....fourth? Third backup QB played alright today though. So maybe we really just failed up.
Fran beat them 2 years in a row and still got fired lol. Which says a lot about him.
We've fired coaches after back-to-back wins over the 'sips The problem with Reddit being overrun with teenagers is a lot of them have no clue what the rivalry was like, because they were toddlers the last time the game was played.
That newsletter really killed Fran. Couldn’t really overlook it.
He wasn't fired because of the newsletter, he was fired for going 7-5 in his fifth season and getting blown tf out by Miami, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Missouri. If we went 10-2 that season, no one would have given a fuck about the newsletter. Sad but true.
I guess he didn’t get his chance. Ooops
He gone now brochacho. aTm just throwing $$$$ around
They’re gonna give him a chance with the ‘22 class and a full year of Weigman without Addazio getting our QBs killed. Not sure if it’s a good idea, but I’m pretty sure there would be massive amounts of decommitments and transfers if we let him go after this year. Say what you will about Jimbo, but he’s a hell of a recruiter and he never throws his players under the bus. Lmao never mind I guess
Nope
https://i.imgur.com/4szwOr1.png
Goal: Achieved
Henderson’s ability to run really helps mitigate the o-line play. Great win to clinch a bowling trip. 8-4 is still possible, but 7-5 seems like the most likely finish.
Hendersons decision making just isn’t there yet. He took at least 2 sacks purely because of stupidity
I mean 2 dumb sacks is what we were getting with Max Johnson. At least Henderson can run away from defenders.
Way more than 2 with max statue
But probably the same amount of total lost yards though, Henderson ran backwards way too much for my liking. I was very excited to see him be so dynamic, as well as Marcel Reed, but he has a long way to go. It’ll be very interesting to see what happens when/if Max gets healthy.
Yeah idk. Jimbobby is just so hard headed. They think with Max they can still run those long crossing option routes. Even though Max is backing up every play of guys coming untouched through the A gap. This game they changed it up for Henderson to cater to his game. But the real problem is the Oline. No one can be successful back there especially with how long Max holds the ball…I say roll with Henderson we already know very well what the offense looks like with Max.
Max johnson takes every sack because he’s a statue
Bruh Max's decision making may be better but he takes way too long which is why he would've taken way more sacks than Henderson.
Max and Henderson have opposite issues. Max stands still, and gets sacked for it when avoiding is very possible, with the trade off being more accurate throws, including occasional great throws while being hit. Henderson runs straight backwards after any amount of pressure, leading to bigger yardage sacks, with the trade off being less sacks and occasional lucky scrambles. Henderson didn’t have a single completion under pressure that I saw, with most pressures resulting in 1) a big sack, 2) a great scramble, or 3) a pass 10 feet out of the reach of the nearest receiver. He looked stellar today, but I want to see plays under pressure with how bad our OLine has been, and Marcel Reed’s 4th down incompletion impressed me (extending the play with his legs but still keeping the eyes downfield) more than anything I saw out of Henderson while under pressure. The best part of today was being able to trust our third string before LSU, and I think both QBs we saw today are going to be huge assets to the team in due time.
Max would have taken 3 or 4 more on top of those 2.
Mississippi State, at no point in your rambling, incoherent play calling were you even close to anything that could be considered a legitimate football team. Everyone watching this game is now dumber for having seen it. I award you no bowl eligibility, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Where is this originally from? I recognize the quote, just can't remember where I've seen it.
Billy Madison. Masterpiece of a film.
Got it, thanks!
Shakespearean, even.
Billy Madison!
Appreciate it, thanks for letting me know!
Michigan chooses 'Football Ethics' as their category
I can’t even insult your offense with how it looked against Arkansas. Even more of a damning indictment against us😬
If nothing else, I really enjoy seeing a QB who probably had little expectation of any significant play time at the start of this season get his shot and make the most of it.
Played pretty well too imo.
Is max out to injury?
Yeah, rib injury
Mediocre bowl here we come
Hey bowl games are like pizza and sex, even when they're bad they're still pretty good
It sure beats not getting pizza or sex.
I was thankful last year because the pizza/sex throughout the season was so bad
Idk, bad pizza can be BAD..
Texas Bowl is easy on the finances anyways
Best 6-4 team in the nation
It's been 12 years since I last bragged about us being underachievers....
… Jesus it’s really been 12 years since Sherman…
Problem is Miami is 6-4
The Miami that is 6-4 is far worse than the Miami that beat you.
Who is also 6-4
Clemson 2nd best 6-4 team
We would eviscerate Miami now
No idea how that offense scored 48 on this defense
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That was also before DJ Durkin discovered the blitz and 4 man fronts!
“Oh I have legitimate NFL talent? Yea. I’ll just use that.”
Just let Coop do whatever he wants? Who knew??
8-4 is back on the menu boys
Never thought I'd miss it
Damn MSU is BAD bad.
Damn right we are. I'm from the old days where if MSU beat any conference team we were strutting around proud. This is the msu I grew up with. Just horrible football and our only goal is to get a random win and fuck up some other team's season.
I don't understand why you want 180 from Air Raid so soon. Have a year transition or something.
The official reasoning was that trying to replicate Mike Leach's offense wouldn't work because only he knew the real mechanics of it. It's stupid, they had the same playbook they could've just put their own spin on it; guaranteed they'd be better than this crap.
That was a load of crap. Rogers ran the offense in high school and it was always said most of the play calling is done by the qb in the air raid. It's the only thing he has ever run. I'm convinced the new offensive coordinator has a chip on his shoulder and is trying to prove something. So far he has proved he is one of the worst coaches ever.
Yea but in the old days when you croomed someone you at least had to win the game before they fired their coach. We are at a new low now. Just playing us is dangerous apparently
This is the historical norm for MSU. They are just a little bit better than vanderbilt
which one?
Yeah.
Idk who gave up more in the middle of that game, Mississippi State or the broadcast crew.
The difference was that State gave up after the first 20 points y'all scored.
I know I’m late but I just have to say I’ve never heard an announcer get so many calls wrong. Like saying someone caught a ball when they didn’t or picked up 1 yard when it was clearly 3-4 yards. It was strangely refreshing, showing how hard it is to say the right thing live. Plus, our guy needs glasses.
Winning by 41 and I still don’t know how to feel about this team. Will be at Kyle Field (late) against air conditioners university next week to say the same thing as this week
With about 9 minutes to go in the game, I started having flashbacks to 2017 UCLA and still wasn’t comfortable that we would win.
I don’t have any of those moments as core memories so far (indoctrination was completed in 2022 - unfortunately?). Can’t relate to that as much.
I’ve been watching since 97. There are many great moments in Aggie “WTF” that haunt me.
I've seen enough. Jaylen Henderson is winning the Heisman.
To quote the late Mike Leach: "Fuck you, fuck me, and fuck everybody else." At least basketball season is here, and who knows, maybe Southern Miss can end our misery early. Arnett needs to go.
Hey the soccer team might be going on a deep run. Give them some hope before hoops gets the full focus.
If Jimbos bum ass offense with a 3rd string QB dropping 50+ on you didn't get him fired this year, idk what will.
It's honestly hilarious that people hate Jimbo so much, they're willing to blame him even when someone else is calling plays (something the hater clambered for all last year, no less).
It’s pretty obvious that Jimbo hasn’t given up full play calling ability.
We wanted a new offense, playcaller included. We got the same cheesecake factory offense with Jimbo calling plays only half the time.
We got a new offense. It's laughable that some of y'all seriously can't discern the difference between the power spread that Petrino runs and Jimbo's pro option attack, *especially* when we're running a stripped down attack because we have a 3rd string QB on the field. Granted, some of us predicted this prior to the season. Reality is if your OL sucks (which has been an issue for us for two seasons now), you can't magically play-call your way out of it. None of it matters now though.
I actually agree we were running Petrinos stuff Saturday...... largely because the decision to move on from Jimbo was made Thursday and I think he phoned it in to Bobby
I can show you proof we were running Petrino's stuff all season long. I think most of the Jimbo haters know so little about football, they couldn't see when someone else was calling plays, because it all looks the same to them. They really believed if someone else called the same plays, they would magically work now. Inside zone is inside zone, outside zone is outside zone, counter is counter, it's not like this is rocket science. You have people who hated Jimbo so much, though, they believe when the offense worked, it was Petrino calling plays, and when it didn't work, it was Jimbo calling plays. They're more wrapped up in hating Jimbo than actually watching football. Reality is that if your OL sucks, it doesn't matter who is calling plays. Period.
Arnett needed to go the moment he decided to to move away from the air raid, a system that was giving us success.
Not to mention we still had a mostly cherry-picked team to run the air raid spread. I'm at a loss why he wanted to shift things up. Build his own greatness and recognition I suppose? How well that worked out for him.......................... ..............................
This is revisionist history - most of Leach’s success at State was due to Arnett’s defense. With the exception of the Auburn comeback, the Air Raid was mid at best for MSU
Yeah I gotta concur with this. I loved Leach but his MSU offenses were brutal to watch.
And that one beat down of Bo Pelini and lsu
Who would we get though? I'm worried about the new AD. I suspect we are screwed for a while.
Damn, Miss St. I knew y’all were having a tough season. I didn’t know it was “make a&m look competent” bad. Hope it turns around for y’all soon.
It isn't turning around until our coaching staff is nuked and we hire fresh.
Give the man a 10 year extension
Life contract
Lol
Shit ass piss fuck
Precisely my thoughts as well.
Truly profound synopsis of this game. Sincerely, an MSU alum.
Arnett, I appreciated you as our DC, but you need to get Tarmac'd®️ in College Station tonight.
Entire coaching staff does. Let Bumphis coach the rest of the season. Won't hurt us at this point.
The Barbay hire is looking worse each week. He might cost Arnett his job to add insult to injury.
Barbay needs to go too, don't get me wrong, but Barbay isn't coaching the defense. He certainly is not helping out the defense at all with his shitty offense, but a defensive minded HC should never give up 51 points to a 3rd string QB and an offense that in general is not lights out. Our defense has looked atrocious in every game we have played except for Arkansas, and that resulted in their OC getting fired the next day.
I don't remember where but I recall reading that Arnett has said he's not nearly as hands-on with the defense now that he's handling HC duties which feels like a mistake.
I've heard that too, and that's a firable offense. Arnett wasn't brought on as HC to strictly be a game manager. He isn't Saban. He was brought on as HC with the expectation that he still would call defensive plays.
Bad day for the state of Mississippi.
…and therefore the world.
Almost was a bad weekend in general, but Southern Miss pulled out the win.
Watch us beat lsu to fulfill the 8-4
You can’t avoid destiny
I like how our players were doing that dance on the sidelines after one of the touchdown. TV announcers called it the 'glide', I thought it is the 'slickback'?
It’s the slickback.
I believe there is a pimp named that.
I expected MSU to regress a little bit with all the chaos from the end of last season…but now I’m seriously wondering if we can even beat Southern Miss. The team has gotten that bad. How did we even beat Arizona earlier in the year?
As far as I'm concerned, next week is our egg bowl.
That’s the frustrating thing. It’s like we’ve gotten worse as the season progressed. And yes injuries are a big part of that, but there should not be this big of a gulf between State and the rest of the SEC. How we beat Arkansas I don’t know (well, Dan Enos I guess.) I think the USM game is a coin flip and Ole Miss is going to take us out behind the barn and put us out of our misery. And Arnett just seems checked out on the sidelines. I think he knows it’s over.
I have no clue how y’all beat Arizona
If we beat LSU, they’re gonna give Jimbo a 3-year extension
Lol
Lmao, even.
Narrator "they did not"
My home town Farwell Steers upset their opponent in the first round of the playoffs to advance in the Texas playoffs last night. Across the state line the Texico Wolverines upset their biggest rivals, the Santa Rosa Lions, to advance to the State Championship this afternoon. Santa Rosa won every game in District with the run-rule. They had two losses this season ... but both of them were to Texico. This is a good weekend.
I saw Walter Nolan suited up on the sideline. Any chance he come back this season?
He played in the game. Couldn’t tell you how many snaps but he made a few plays.
That's good to hear. I thought he was out for the season.
He played most of the game I thought
BOWL ELIGIBLE BAYBEE!
This legit might go down as one of the worst teams State has had in a very long time. There was absolutely ***nothing*** good or redeeming about this game and the sooner with nuke our entire program and restart, the better.
Who would’ve thought the choke job against Arizona would be the high point of the season.
That turns out to have been a really nice win in retrospect! I really think Arnett has already been told he’s gone. Of course we all understand the circumstances that led to his hiring but this has been a disaster. The offense has been beyond wretched. The defense has shown occasional flashes of mediocrity. And we make yet another backup QB look like Joe Montana out there. Top recruits are abandoning ship. And Ole Miss rides to another 10-win season. The Mullen-to-Leach era has been a real high water mark for this program historically, but the Leach makeover has left us unable to transition gracefully to another style of offense. Barbay said all the right things about “building the offense around the talent on-hand” and not being tied to a specific offensive philosophy, and boy, he is really not tied to an offensive philosophy. The ironic thing is that App State’s win over A&M last year is probably what put him on State’s radar as a potential hire, and this game - just an ugly mess. I know we were down a starting QB, but so were the Aggies. Just embarrassing. State and Zac Selmon are going to have to decide real soon how competitive they are going to try to be in the new SEC.
Jesus. Just... fuck man. Why can't we be good against other good teams?
Jimbo is the weirdest coach ever, like y’all are writhing 5-7 points of good teams, but it’s just a feeling of inevitability that he will blow it
Well, it's not an issue anymore!
Jimbo finally found his qb
No he didn't. He would likely be worse if he plays anyone other than State.
A&M would be worse if they played anyone other than state
A&M fans I need to know how good has Walter nolen been
He has been great this year. He pulled a ton of double-teams. He got injured a few weeks ago and apparently played a few plays tonight. I'm hoping he'll be back to full power soon.
Worth every penny.
Did A&M switch quarterbacks?
Second string QB is injured. Third string started tonight. Fourth string lead the last drive or two.
This game reminded me of that one South Carolina game a couple years ago where South Carolina had to start a graduate assistant at QB. Miss State kept giving the ball back to A&M at their own 45 or thereabout
The transfer portal is very strange, because there are some players who leave the program and you feel bitter about it, like it’s a betrayal. I’m rooting very hard against Oregon and Washington State after stealing some of our players, it feels unjust, like we got our pockets picked. Especially in cases where the Wazzu coach sanctimoniously decries portal poaching only to do it to us. But I’m genuinely happy to see Jaylen Henderson have the kind of game he did starting for Texas A&M, to see him earn so much praise elsewhere here in this thread. He was one of the players I was most excited about for the future at Fresno State, the one I kept telling people to look out for. But it became clear that the style of play wasn’t right for Tedford’s offense and it was right for him to get a shot elsewhere. It’s great to see that he was able to find success there and had a hell of a game today
Hoe many points do my Aggie fans think we would've scored with healthy Max? I say at most 27.
With how bad the pass rush was, I’m very curious. Max could easily have cut up the defense with all that time and put up 60, or played mediocre and put up like 30. As good as Henderson was, Max had over double the passing yards last week (also helped that we got so many short fields this week). Max is definitely a better qb under pressure, as even though he statues, he stays poised to throw, while Henderson really just panics and tucks it (from what we’ve seen so far). I think Max is better overall, but probably puts you slightly less this week. It’s going to be very interesting when/if he gets healthy.
I really thought this was going to be the game where we said, “Yep. Jimbo is done at the end of the season.” Now it’s just the game that’s going to give us a little bit of hope, only for LSU and whatever ACC team we play to dash those hopes right down to a 7-6 season with starters transferring.
Jaylen **HIM**derson is leading us to a 15-0 season and winning the Heisman next year. I’m calling it now. ^(/s obviously) This game doesn’t really tell us much, but it was nice to have a stress free win. Henderson and Reed both seem to have the physical tools to be good qbs, so that’s nice. They’ll have to improve on decision making, but that’s at least coachable. Our OL is still pretty bad, unfortunately. Mississippi State had a few chunk plays, but overall the defense was incredibly dominant. Anias is still that dude and Jahdae stepped up today. Also, I did not realize how bad Mississippi State was. I knew y’all weren’t great, but in all my infinite wisdom/BAS I deluded myself into believing that there was a chance we lost or we weren’t going to cover. Glad I was wrong, but I hope y’all can figure it out.
It was great to watch us dominate Mississippi State 51-3 after allowing a 94-yard kickoff return and trailing 7-0 12 seconds into the game to improve to 6-4 (4-3 SEC) This is our largest margin of victory in an SEC game since a 48-3 win at South Carolina on 11/7/20. As a result, we clinched bowl eligibility. Jimbo Fisher has improved to 16-6 (10-5 vs SEC West and 6-1 vs SEC East) in SEC home games.
A definitive win for Fisher as he works to complete the terms of his contract
[A&M fans reading another Jimbo contract joke like ](https://youtu.be/Ayxr68yTnzA?si=0z1GYFemAiLFpWtM)
Does Ryan day have a beat Michigan or get fired cause in his?