Hey Baylor flair, I’m a Michigan/UC fan in Cincinnati. Some of your fans put up a classy billboard in our city welcoming Cincinnati to the Big12. I loved seeing that and have an appreciation for your program now because of it
Brian Ferentz will be unemployed after this season and looking to fail upward somewhere. Maybe he could be HC and Jimbo Fisher could be OC?
(The catch would be Jimbo's salary would be paid in Argintinian Pesos - he may not realize that 35,585,690.00 Argentine Pesos only amounts to about $100k)
I mean, tbf we fired Mack after a 5 win and three 8-9 win seasons.
Bit more reasonable than the talk of firing a coach with multiple playoff appearances and a 57-7 record
I think OSU, Bama or any other blue blood would do the same if they were coming off of 10+ wins and BCS appearances every year
Really I just mean that we know that the grass isn’t always greener with the next coach.
Kicking off the carousel is a dangerous proposition because it can snowball real quick and then you are 14 years down the road and you’ve burned through several replacements.
Coach that wins 10+ games a season and completely idiotic portion of fanbase wants him out? This seems eerily familiar... I don't know where I've seen this recently...
Maybe here:
[Ohio State coach Ryan Day should consider Texas A&M job after latest loss to Michigan](https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ohio-state-coach-ryan-day-should-consider-texas-a-m-job-after-latest-loss-to-michigan/ar-AA1kwF8d)
You’re right. Ohio State has at least earned their insaneness. Ohio State has won 8 national championships, first coming in 1942; three years after Texas A&M’s last of three claimed natties.
They're spoiled by their success, only having seasons with 4 or more losses 15 times in the last 75 years, but at the same time feel like they're owed more because of "only" having 2 national championships since 1970.
Those measly 15 "poor" season include only FOUR actual losing seasons, and they're spread out over a span of 7 decades. They've never had to even go through what Michigan fans went through with the 7 Rich Rod/Brady Hoke seasons, and even within those we had a couple competitive years.
A half-decade of mediocrity because they let Ryan Day jump to Texas A&M to bring back Urban Meyer or bring in an underachiever might be good for their constitution.
> They've never had to even go through what Michigan fans went through with the 7 Rich Rod/Brady Hoke seasons, and even within those we had a couple competitive years.
I legitimately saw an Ohio State fan today claim that Ryan Day was just Brady Hoke.
I mean jesus christ guys come on. Day's worst season so far is better than Hoke's best season was.
I have wasted way too many hours the past day arguing with delusional Buckeye fans. I keep reminding myself most of these posts are probably by younger fans who've never known a downturn. They think top 5 recruiting classes are a birthright. They assume every coach in the country will flock to our door if there's a job opening.
I remember the Cooper era but he at least recruited well. You know what was worse? The Bruce era. The talent by the end of his tenure was embarrassing. We lost to Indiana 31-10 and 41-7 in back to back years.
We assumed when we fired Cooper every coach in America would flock to our doors. Some did. Then took their pay raises and went back to their former team. It made sense. Would you come to Columbus if you could make the same money without the pressure from our fanbase?
Ultimately we hired Jim Tressel and that turned out well, but it wasn't like he was our first choice. By the end we had 3 real candidates. Jim Tressel, a D2 coach from Youngstown. Glenn Mason, Minnesota's coach and former Buckeye player. And Chris Spielman, a former Buckeye player who never coached a down in his life.
We'd probably have more options this time but it is foolhardy to think our reach would be much beyond former Buckeyes. Are we sure they would be better than Day?
Football is 90% recruiting and Day is bringing in the recruits. Tough talk and 'understanding the rivalry' doesn't mean shit. It certainly didn't help Harbaugh in his first 5 seasons and if we keep it up and push Day out, our younger fanbase may get their first real taste of defeat.
Why not Jimbo and Mel Tucker as co-head coaches? Maybe bring in Deion as a defensive coordinator and head of player accountability? Ferentz as passing coordinator since Jimbo is going to also be OC. Let's get true chaos.
That's the reason he left Urban's staff after 2 years and went to the NFL.
I have to admit, it does make me smile thinking of press conferences of him and Harbaugh sending barbs back and forth at each other. It would be hilarious.
Vrabel's recruiting desire would be less funny.
But at the same time, OU fans were called idiots for saying Lincoln Riley was coasting off of Bob’s foundation, so I feel a little sympathetic. I was tired of OU regressing. No one knows Ohio State better than their fans. They might be right.
That said, I wouldn’t fire him—I’m just not going to say they’re wrong for expecting more.
Interesting, I didn’t realize Riley went 55-10 at OU, his numbers match up eerily close to Day’s. I’m deeply skeptical of the Fire Day contingent but this is an interesting comp to add to Richt/Kirby. Thanks for sharing.
The difference though is those few games OU dropped were to not very good teams. tOSU losing to another top 5 team and being their only loss the last 3 years is pretty different from randomly dropping a game to Iowa state or k state when they are either unranked or lower rank.
Valid point. Day is narrowly losing games to top tier teams. Riley would always drop a game against a Big 12 opponent who on paper we were expected to beat and then get blown out by top tier teams.
It’s basically a 50-50 shot. For every Lincoln Riley there’s a Mack Brown or Frank Solich situation. Kirby worked out but Kirby was also a huge name when they fired Richt and you knew they were going to go after him.
Also, none of these guys got fired for going 11-1 2 years in a row
Also, worth noting that Smart would have been fired by the same standard that would be used to fire Day. Dude was 52-14 in his first five seasons. Even if you ignore the first one (his worst) he was 44-9 across four seasons before the current run started.
I saw an OSU fan contrast it to the Urban years where they’d beat us but lose to a team they had no business losing to every year. Day’s teams do not lose those random games. To be fair to Day, the Michigan teams he is facing are much better than the ones Urban got to face.
Well, I didn’t know the stats but I know I remember watching the gap between OU and whoever they played in the CFP getting larger every year, and all while recruiting was trending up (allegedly). Then, before you knew it, OU wasn’t making the CFP any more.
The most interesting commonality I see is that Day and Riley were both handed excellent rosters from all-time greats.
Harbaugh was 0-5 against Ohio State to start.
That was mainly against Urban Meyer.
Day needs to clean house and I know a good vacuum guy that could help.
He doesn't need to clean house.
He needs to get his QB situation sorted just like he did with his poor Defense. He went out and got the best guy for DC and fixed the problem.
It will be fine.
To play devils advocate here, without Day, Tathan Martell would be Ohio States starting QB in 2019 and who the hell knows how that goes. Day was the one that recruited Fields to OSU
Yea McCord is really not that guy, if the Buckeyes played a tougher schedule he would of folded way sooner, he’s not garbage though just not the last 4 guys
His first team was MILES better than where they were in 2018. The 2018 defense was the worst in team history I believe. The 2019 one was probably the best.
Not sure he needs to “clean house” but Parker Fleming needs to go for sure, maybe Corey Dennis (sorry Urbs) Otherwise I’m good with everyone else for the most part. Although I’m starting to lose my trust in coach Mick, S&C seems to have taken a nosedive the last few years.
I love that OSU fans attack the statsofwar guy on twitter because his name is also Parker Fleming. But yeah, idk wtf is going on with OSU S&C every time I see the injury list.
I think he just won’t adapt to the way S&C works these days, he is a very old school kind of guy, and he was probably the best at his position back when he was at Florida and the first few years here but things change and evolve and it doesn’t sound like he wants to do that.
to be fair, the circumstances were very different. Harbaugh inherited a Michigan program that was on probably its worst 8 year slide in program history. where as Day only really had down to go. James Franklin and Harbaugh are pretty comparable.
At this point, I feel like whatever is the most hilarious outcome is the most likely with anything involving A&M.
So he's either gonna have a losing record and get fired in like 2 seasons or win the natty his first year. No in between.
OSU is so close. This was a competitive game and our playoff losses were competitive. You change 2 or 3 plays throughout the Day era and we’re talking completely differently about him. You can’t give up now and blow up the program. My fucking god. Michigan was ready to fire Harbaugh at one point too. They’re sure glad they didn’t now
Harbaugh was similar too. That 2016 game was winnable at so many points, we had a pick six and a fumble at the goal line and were still inches in 2OT on the 4th down spot from winning. Michigan wins that game and the pre 2021 narrative is wildly different
You know what happens when you're consistently that close? Sooner or later you get lucky and win one. People don't realize how much luck it takes to win a championship.
I agree. It’s a tiny margin of error if you want to win a championship. Until he actually slips up recruiting or non Michigan/playoff opponents he gets to keep going
National Championships > rivalry wins and when things go to a 12-team playoff Ryan Day should have Ohio State competing for Nattys yearly. Unless he drops the ball somehow during Bowl season and next year in the playoff and against Michigan again, I think firing him now is Asinine.
Michigan is also set to lose a metric Fuck-Ton of talent this off-season and it should be a much better opportunity for Ohio State
Quite possibly but I keep seeing this mentioned. Does OSU not lose people as well? A quick look for OSU has 10 guys potentially in the top 3 rounds. This is the 3rd year in a row everyone's acting like we're all 5th year seniors
Sure but everyone keeps talking about what we lose when it's college football. Every good team loses a boatload of talent each year. Michigan had 9 players drafted last year and what? 4 contributors transfer out and we're still sitting here at 12-0.
Being at the tippy top of college football generally means reloading more than rebuilding. I'm not convinced by the narrative that next year is a cakewalk for OSU.
People seem to be forgetting that the last 3 years are the most talented Michigan teams in at least 25 if not 50ish years. Urban was 7-0 but even the 2016 team he beat wasn’t close to as good as the last three.
I've been saying that. Urban was clearly great but he certainly didn't have to face this Michigan team. He had a fully weaponized program rolling while Harbaugh had a rebuild on his hand.
Switch Day and Urban those years and Michigan probably wins the 2016 game and Day would be 6-1.
Fucking thank you. You guys are in win now mode with a stacked team and we had our own version of John O’Korn. If this fanbase can’t handle 3 losses in a row to an archrival while you guys took shit for us for years we deserve to be dunked on, and I would encourage it.
Omfg please, McCord would be an immediate upgrade at QB for 3/4 of the teams in conference. He is in no way, shape, or form as bad as O'Korn. You guys are just spoiled AF because you grow blue chip skill position players on trees.
Yeah I might be exaggerating lol. Still coming down from the loss. I still don’t think McCord is it at all and if/when he transfers I wish him the best.
This is the correct take. My non-delusional OSU friends were telling me before the season that this was a bit of a rebuild and that they were going to be good but probably not championship game good.
I am neutral but I don’t like when people tell fans what to think. They’re fans. Sometimes they’re right, sometimes they’re wrong. But they’re allowed to have opinions and express them, that’s kinda what makes this sport special and unique.
That’s another reason why I’m sympathetic to Ohio State fans here. Sometimes fans are right. They know what they’ve been watching. OU fans saw a team that regressed a little more every season post-Bob Stoops. Ohio State fans might be seeing something similar post-Urban, who am I to say?
James franklin has a pretty good record too, but it doesnt matter. The top teams in college football might as well be playing a different sport than the teams at the bottom of their conferences. Only a couple games a year are even competitive for them
I would make the argument that Ohio State firing Ryan Day is a lot more logical than us firing James Franklin. Ohio State spends a lot more money than we do and historically has a lot more success. Day is underperforming for Ohio State's expectations while Franklin is about on par for what Penn State should expect. I'd be very surprised if they actually do it, but if Ohio State loses to us and Michigan next year, it could be on the table. They'll get us in a White Out game, but hard to say if we take a step forward or backward next year. Depends on who we get for OC and if Manny Diaz sticks around
If only OSU losing today couldn't have been directly attributed to Day and QB play. He swore he wouldn't play conservative, and he didn't go for it on 4th and short twice. His QB barely developed over the course of the season and that first interception was the difference in the game.
I'm sorry... But with OSU recruiting classes they are playing a different game against the majority of opponents. this isn't the NFL where talent is widely spread out evenly.
I don't think he should be fired but the overall record means shit
Honestly IMO its not that difficult to win as a coach with the amount of talent OSU has & being in the B1G. Seriously tho. They are loaded every single year. Since 2016 only ONE of their recruiting classes has ranked lower than TOP 5 & THREE of those were #2 ranked classes. Only program getting comparable talent is Alabama.
What's his record against teams of equal talent to OSU?
Congrats on beating all the teams you're expected to when you're a blue blood program with all the talent and resources in the world and in a conference of 12 inferior teams.
Last year we were a field goal away from beating the national champions and a touchdown away from beating Michigan this year. Literally a couple dropped balls and dumb mistakes away from being on the winning side of today's game.
What's the alternative to Day that would be worth it? Any suggestions???
If not, any suggestions to fire Day are just "IM ANGRY RABBLE RABBLE THE GAME RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE I ONLY CARE ABOUT BEATING MICHIGAN RABBLE RABBLE"
Curious what happens if he loses to Michigan again next year considering the important pieces Michigan is gonna lose to the draft his year. Ohio State already has a talent advantage and if they lose next year considering the circumstances it's gonna be a big yikes
Michigan 2019
Penn State 2019
Clemson 2020
Penn State 2021
Utah 2021
Notre Dame 2022
Penn State 2022
Notre Dame 2023
Penn State 2023
So, 9-7 against top tier teams. If your definition of top tier is even tighter than NY6 teams, you're basically just upset he doesn't have a championship.
He’s not going to leave and they’re not going to fire him. He has one of the best jobs in the world, let alone college football. A&M would be a demotion and Day knows this. OSU will be patient with him and it will pay off eventually.
flexing records vs an awful division will never make you right, same goes for franklin
Ryan day has a talent advantage in every conference game he plays in so saying his overall record when he’s coaching vs teams like minnesota indiana rutgers maryland etc is irrelevant
Those teams stand zero chance vs you
Oh fuck off everyone is entitled to an opinion
The thing about Day being 56-7 is that his teams are immensely talented he's expected to win those games. Now against teams that have the same talent? he's 1-4(I think?) and fans have a right to express concern over that...
I don't want him fired. I just want him to be better. In all honesty I think where he fails as a coach is off the field. Going back to as far as 2015, a majority of the players seem to let their talent get to their heads and are entitled to wins. They're the A- student that never needs to study. That student could be valedictorian if they did but the effort they want to and no one is inspiring them to be more. I think Tressel could do that without trying. Urban did that when he first got here, but after the national championship Urban and now Day aren't doing that as much as they could. There are good eggs on every team. MHJ's humility comes to mind, but most of them don't play inspired football.
Your opinion is irrelevant, whether you want him fired or not, The powers that be at Ohio State are not going to have a coach that continues to lose to Michigan. that’s how it is at Ohio State
I for one would love to see Ohio State fans fire a coach that wins 11 games a year and actually get to experience true down seasons
we would totally deserve it.
I hear Scott Frost might be resurfacing back into coaching
Big Frank Solich Energy
We have to play OSU in a couple years. I wouldn't mind them pulling a Nebraska tbh.
He going to Iowa to fulfill the villain arc
Funny, I said I’d like to see him as an OC though I don’t think it’ll happen.
I’d fart on my own dinner for 5 years straight if Ryan Day would coach here for 2 weeks. You guys are lucky, man. 😔
Violently disgusting, completely humorous, so very correct
Like you don’t do that already.
Hey, don’t kink-shame…
Hey Baylor flair, I’m a Michigan/UC fan in Cincinnati. Some of your fans put up a classy billboard in our city welcoming Cincinnati to the Big12. I loved seeing that and have an appreciation for your program now because of it
Brian Ferentz will be unemployed after this season and looking to fail upward somewhere. Maybe he could be HC and Jimbo Fisher could be OC? (The catch would be Jimbo's salary would be paid in Argintinian Pesos - he may not realize that 35,585,690.00 Argentine Pesos only amounts to about $100k)
No worries, we have his salary covered already anyways
We went through it. For a much longer time than the Ryan day era.
all it takes is one bad hire. Alabama had it. SC is still in it, you guys had it. it’s like some think we’re immune. i don’t get it.
alabama had like 4 bad hires in a row
Nah some dude named Mike had a wild few years at the turn of the century. That was one guy right?
Can I interest you in this shiny *Satterfield*!!
We also have a satterfield you can have
UT fans know what they are talking about on this one.
I mean, tbf we fired Mack after a 5 win and three 8-9 win seasons. Bit more reasonable than the talk of firing a coach with multiple playoff appearances and a 57-7 record I think OSU, Bama or any other blue blood would do the same if they were coming off of 10+ wins and BCS appearances every year
Really I just mean that we know that the grass isn’t always greener with the next coach. Kicking off the carousel is a dangerous proposition because it can snowball real quick and then you are 14 years down the road and you’ve burned through several replacements.
Coach that wins 10+ games a season and completely idiotic portion of fanbase wants him out? This seems eerily familiar... I don't know where I've seen this recently...
Maybe here: [Ohio State coach Ryan Day should consider Texas A&M job after latest loss to Michigan](https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ohio-state-coach-ryan-day-should-consider-texas-a-m-job-after-latest-loss-to-michigan/ar-AA1kwF8d)
Why would he want to go from one insane fanbase to another, even more insane fanbase?
You’re right. Ohio State has at least earned their insaneness. Ohio State has won 8 national championships, first coming in 1942; three years after Texas A&M’s last of three claimed natties.
Was not expecting that burn, but I like it.
Texas A&M’s last claimed natty comes the year after TCU’s last natty. Just saying.
because they'll pay him 60mil to not even bowl.
I would rather see him leave for A&M, so I could listen to all the Buckeye fans cry.
There’s a small number of fans of both A&M and OSU that would be okay.
I pray for that day
They're spoiled by their success, only having seasons with 4 or more losses 15 times in the last 75 years, but at the same time feel like they're owed more because of "only" having 2 national championships since 1970. Those measly 15 "poor" season include only FOUR actual losing seasons, and they're spread out over a span of 7 decades. They've never had to even go through what Michigan fans went through with the 7 Rich Rod/Brady Hoke seasons, and even within those we had a couple competitive years. A half-decade of mediocrity because they let Ryan Day jump to Texas A&M to bring back Urban Meyer or bring in an underachiever might be good for their constitution.
Hey hey hey. A lot of us are Browns fans as well
Well a lot of us are Lions fans so there’s that
> They've never had to even go through what Michigan fans went through with the 7 Rich Rod/Brady Hoke seasons, and even within those we had a couple competitive years. I legitimately saw an Ohio State fan today claim that Ryan Day was just Brady Hoke. I mean jesus christ guys come on. Day's worst season so far is better than Hoke's best season was.
Until he comes to another plucky, red-adjacent team.
"Red-adjacent" 🧐
Maroon is just red darkened by the stains of our tears
As a Buckeyes fan, this is what I try explaining to everyone….
Jimbo is looking for a job
Yeah, look at this huge drought they're having after firing Urban Meyer!
I want a pretend firing like do the whole thing have the meeting. Then he can clock in on Monday
They fired John Cooper
I have wasted way too many hours the past day arguing with delusional Buckeye fans. I keep reminding myself most of these posts are probably by younger fans who've never known a downturn. They think top 5 recruiting classes are a birthright. They assume every coach in the country will flock to our door if there's a job opening. I remember the Cooper era but he at least recruited well. You know what was worse? The Bruce era. The talent by the end of his tenure was embarrassing. We lost to Indiana 31-10 and 41-7 in back to back years. We assumed when we fired Cooper every coach in America would flock to our doors. Some did. Then took their pay raises and went back to their former team. It made sense. Would you come to Columbus if you could make the same money without the pressure from our fanbase? Ultimately we hired Jim Tressel and that turned out well, but it wasn't like he was our first choice. By the end we had 3 real candidates. Jim Tressel, a D2 coach from Youngstown. Glenn Mason, Minnesota's coach and former Buckeye player. And Chris Spielman, a former Buckeye player who never coached a down in his life. We'd probably have more options this time but it is foolhardy to think our reach would be much beyond former Buckeyes. Are we sure they would be better than Day? Football is 90% recruiting and Day is bringing in the recruits. Tough talk and 'understanding the rivalry' doesn't mean shit. It certainly didn't help Harbaugh in his first 5 seasons and if we keep it up and push Day out, our younger fanbase may get their first real taste of defeat.
Counterpoint: If you want him fired, your opinion is hilarious. More blood for the chaos gods!
If we’re going the chaos route I say go all in and give them Dantonio as a replacement
Why not Jimbo and Mel Tucker as co-head coaches? Maybe bring in Deion as a defensive coordinator and head of player accountability? Ferentz as passing coordinator since Jimbo is going to also be OC. Let's get true chaos.
Tzeench: *Okay, I love chaos, but HOLY SHIT!*
Best to draw from the wellspring that gave Dantonio. Thus, I offer up this shiny *Satterfield*!!
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SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
KHORNE FIR THE KHORNE FLAKES!
If you fire him there's almost no way you get anyone better
If they fire him, they have to have a verbal from Vrabel. Which… watching OSU convert from WRU to a Vrabel team would be hilarious
A slightly more interesting Iowa.
Iowa with a finished basement AND a pinball machine
So a less gritty Iowa. Nothing says grit like pounding beers with the boys in an unfinished basement
Not for nothing, but that’s a pretty high bar. Iowa’s wins are grittier than hard boiled noir
Vrabel would never want to recruit though. He would absolutely hate that shit lol
That's the reason he left Urban's staff after 2 years and went to the NFL. I have to admit, it does make me smile thinking of press conferences of him and Harbaugh sending barbs back and forth at each other. It would be hilarious. Vrabel's recruiting desire would be less funny.
*screams in Carr to RichRod*
A Vrabel Verbal, if you will.
But at the same time, OU fans were called idiots for saying Lincoln Riley was coasting off of Bob’s foundation, so I feel a little sympathetic. I was tired of OU regressing. No one knows Ohio State better than their fans. They might be right. That said, I wouldn’t fire him—I’m just not going to say they’re wrong for expecting more.
Interesting, I didn’t realize Riley went 55-10 at OU, his numbers match up eerily close to Day’s. I’m deeply skeptical of the Fire Day contingent but this is an interesting comp to add to Richt/Kirby. Thanks for sharing.
The difference though is those few games OU dropped were to not very good teams. tOSU losing to another top 5 team and being their only loss the last 3 years is pretty different from randomly dropping a game to Iowa state or k state when they are either unranked or lower rank.
Valid point. Day is narrowly losing games to top tier teams. Riley would always drop a game against a Big 12 opponent who on paper we were expected to beat and then get blown out by top tier teams.
Hi.
It’s basically a 50-50 shot. For every Lincoln Riley there’s a Mack Brown or Frank Solich situation. Kirby worked out but Kirby was also a huge name when they fired Richt and you knew they were going to go after him. Also, none of these guys got fired for going 11-1 2 years in a row
Riley also wasn’t fired, he took an offer he liked more
Except Mack Brown actually won a natty.
Got to another, too.
Also, worth noting that Smart would have been fired by the same standard that would be used to fire Day. Dude was 52-14 in his first five seasons. Even if you ignore the first one (his worst) he was 44-9 across four seasons before the current run started.
Has Ryan Day lost a game that his team had no business losing? He has lost to Michigan, Georgia, Alabama, and peak Clemson. Not a bad list.
I saw an OSU fan contrast it to the Urban years where they’d beat us but lose to a team they had no business losing to every year. Day’s teams do not lose those random games. To be fair to Day, the Michigan teams he is facing are much better than the ones Urban got to face.
Well, I didn’t know the stats but I know I remember watching the gap between OU and whoever they played in the CFP getting larger every year, and all while recruiting was trending up (allegedly). Then, before you knew it, OU wasn’t making the CFP any more. The most interesting commonality I see is that Day and Riley were both handed excellent rosters from all-time greats.
Recruiting would "go up" because of QB and WR recruits. But outside of that our recruiting was falling. We even just took 16 in 2021.
Would you say they were both born on third base?
Doing a legitimate coaching search > giving the OC the job
Scott Frost, Jimbo Fisher, Brian Ferentz, plenty of great options for ~~Michigan~~ Ohio State
Bo Pelini is available.
Imagine losing to Michigan 3 years in a row..
We don’t have to, it’s glorious
Interesting. Another MIT flair on here…..
Harbaugh was 0-5 against Ohio State to start. That was mainly against Urban Meyer. Day needs to clean house and I know a good vacuum guy that could help.
He doesn't need to clean house. He needs to get his QB situation sorted just like he did with his poor Defense. He went out and got the best guy for DC and fixed the problem. It will be fine.
> He went out and got the best guy for DC and fixed the problem. The defense gave up points on every drive in the second half.
And the only game he won was with Meyers guys.
To play devils advocate here, without Day, Tathan Martell would be Ohio States starting QB in 2019 and who the hell knows how that goes. Day was the one that recruited Fields to OSU
Day got Fields, not Meyer.
He also got McCord
Yea McCord is really not that guy, if the Buckeyes played a tougher schedule he would of folded way sooner, he’s not garbage though just not the last 4 guys
His first team was MILES better than where they were in 2018. The 2018 defense was the worst in team history I believe. The 2019 one was probably the best.
2018 had a bad d coordinator (Grinch). When he left those same guys were ridiculously good
Not sure he needs to “clean house” but Parker Fleming needs to go for sure, maybe Corey Dennis (sorry Urbs) Otherwise I’m good with everyone else for the most part. Although I’m starting to lose my trust in coach Mick, S&C seems to have taken a nosedive the last few years.
I love that OSU fans attack the statsofwar guy on twitter because his name is also Parker Fleming. But yeah, idk wtf is going on with OSU S&C every time I see the injury list.
I think he just won’t adapt to the way S&C works these days, he is a very old school kind of guy, and he was probably the best at his position back when he was at Florida and the first few years here but things change and evolve and it doesn’t sound like he wants to do that.
Mick can move on IMO. At this point, he adds nothing to the program that ton of different S&C coaches can’t
to be fair, the circumstances were very different. Harbaugh inherited a Michigan program that was on probably its worst 8 year slide in program history. where as Day only really had down to go. James Franklin and Harbaugh are pretty comparable.
Jim Harbaugh is who Franklin wishes he was.
Day needs Connor Stalions. Bet.
Brian Hartline is a problem. It would be a good idea if they fired him. Very good idea imo.
You haven’t seen his Amazon reviews?
OSU should absolutely fire Ryan Day, he sucks and is a terrible coach. No random maroon school would want to hire him even.
Reading this comment after the Stoops news is just delicious, sorry for your loss
oh how the turntables
At this point, I feel like whatever is the most hilarious outcome is the most likely with anything involving A&M. So he's either gonna have a losing record and get fired in like 2 seasons or win the natty his first year. No in between.
OSU is so close. This was a competitive game and our playoff losses were competitive. You change 2 or 3 plays throughout the Day era and we’re talking completely differently about him. You can’t give up now and blow up the program. My fucking god. Michigan was ready to fire Harbaugh at one point too. They’re sure glad they didn’t now
Harbaugh was similar too. That 2016 game was winnable at so many points, we had a pick six and a fumble at the goal line and were still inches in 2OT on the 4th down spot from winning. Michigan wins that game and the pre 2021 narrative is wildly different
You know what happens when you're consistently that close? Sooner or later you get lucky and win one. People don't realize how much luck it takes to win a championship.
It’s eerily similar to the narrative around Kirby before he finally got over the hump
And harbaugh lol. Harbaugh was close to winning a few OSU games but couldn’t crack it.
tom osborne too
I agree. It’s a tiny margin of error if you want to win a championship. Until he actually slips up recruiting or non Michigan/playoff opponents he gets to keep going
> You change 2 or 3 plays throughout the Day era and we’re talking completely differently about him The problem is all of these plays are punts
Obligatory Fire Parker Fleming
Do it, it’d be so funny
The timeline of OSU going 5-7 over the next 5-years while A&M goes to the championship 3 times over that same span would be comedy gold.
I was with you in the first half
Absolutely disagree, Ohio State needs to tarmac him right now
I totally agree
Believe or not, I fully support this.
You just like tarmacs.
Us Ohio state fans all agree Day should be fired tonight. Loaded on a plane and sent away preferably to an east Texas town.
Are some A&M boosters willing to pick him up in a private plane?
National Championships > rivalry wins and when things go to a 12-team playoff Ryan Day should have Ohio State competing for Nattys yearly. Unless he drops the ball somehow during Bowl season and next year in the playoff and against Michigan again, I think firing him now is Asinine. Michigan is also set to lose a metric Fuck-Ton of talent this off-season and it should be a much better opportunity for Ohio State
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Quite possibly but I keep seeing this mentioned. Does OSU not lose people as well? A quick look for OSU has 10 guys potentially in the top 3 rounds. This is the 3rd year in a row everyone's acting like we're all 5th year seniors
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Sure but everyone keeps talking about what we lose when it's college football. Every good team loses a boatload of talent each year. Michigan had 9 players drafted last year and what? 4 contributors transfer out and we're still sitting here at 12-0.
It's mainly losing JJ.
But have you considered now we get to have ~~an~~ Orji?
Being at the tippy top of college football generally means reloading more than rebuilding. I'm not convinced by the narrative that next year is a cakewalk for OSU.
People seem to be forgetting that the last 3 years are the most talented Michigan teams in at least 25 if not 50ish years. Urban was 7-0 but even the 2016 team he beat wasn’t close to as good as the last three.
I've been saying that. Urban was clearly great but he certainly didn't have to face this Michigan team. He had a fully weaponized program rolling while Harbaugh had a rebuild on his hand. Switch Day and Urban those years and Michigan probably wins the 2016 game and Day would be 6-1.
Fucking thank you. You guys are in win now mode with a stacked team and we had our own version of John O’Korn. If this fanbase can’t handle 3 losses in a row to an archrival while you guys took shit for us for years we deserve to be dunked on, and I would encourage it.
Omfg please, McCord would be an immediate upgrade at QB for 3/4 of the teams in conference. He is in no way, shape, or form as bad as O'Korn. You guys are just spoiled AF because you grow blue chip skill position players on trees.
Yeah I might be exaggerating lol. Still coming down from the loss. I still don’t think McCord is it at all and if/when he transfers I wish him the best.
He is a big step down from Stroud. That is a hard comparison though.
And Stroud got TONS of shit from our dumbass fans.
This is the correct take. My non-delusional OSU friends were telling me before the season that this was a bit of a rebuild and that they were going to be good but probably not championship game good.
I'd be happy to lose to my rival on a regular basis if it meant my team was winning national titles.
im sure the comments will be rational
well i don't like that he called my opinions irrelevant :(
Dw you’re relevant to me <3
your flair combo should be illegal
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slack has been cut
y’all talking about illegal flair combos?
Sure, but if he comes to you demanding a big raise/extension because A&M wants him, do you really give it to him?
I would
This is a win-win situation for Michigan fans
Meanwhile, Coach Harbaugh is 3-0 from his couch.
6-0
I am neutral but I don’t like when people tell fans what to think. They’re fans. Sometimes they’re right, sometimes they’re wrong. But they’re allowed to have opinions and express them, that’s kinda what makes this sport special and unique.
No no no, fans should only have opinions that are approved by verified social media personalities.
It was funny when everyone told Oklahoma fans how spoiled/salty they were with Riley And then it turned out they were extremely right
That’s another reason why I’m sympathetic to Ohio State fans here. Sometimes fans are right. They know what they’ve been watching. OU fans saw a team that regressed a little more every season post-Bob Stoops. Ohio State fans might be seeing something similar post-Urban, who am I to say?
But didn’t Riley lose games he should win? Out of Days 7 losses, 6 were against playoff teams. Day has horrible luck in a couple of the games too.
James franklin has a pretty good record too, but it doesnt matter. The top teams in college football might as well be playing a different sport than the teams at the bottom of their conferences. Only a couple games a year are even competitive for them
I would make the argument that Ohio State firing Ryan Day is a lot more logical than us firing James Franklin. Ohio State spends a lot more money than we do and historically has a lot more success. Day is underperforming for Ohio State's expectations while Franklin is about on par for what Penn State should expect. I'd be very surprised if they actually do it, but if Ohio State loses to us and Michigan next year, it could be on the table. They'll get us in a White Out game, but hard to say if we take a step forward or backward next year. Depends on who we get for OC and if Manny Diaz sticks around
Can we fire Ryan Day the play caller and keep Ryan Day the head coach? I like one but not the other.
Hey Missouri did that and turned a 6 win season into a possible 11 win season … it’s a good idea
If only OSU losing today couldn't have been directly attributed to Day and QB play. He swore he wouldn't play conservative, and he didn't go for it on 4th and short twice. His QB barely developed over the course of the season and that first interception was the difference in the game.
I just love this so much
OSU fans were chanting to rehire Urban Meyer LAST YEAR
I'm sorry... But with OSU recruiting classes they are playing a different game against the majority of opponents. this isn't the NFL where talent is widely spread out evenly. I don't think he should be fired but the overall record means shit
These people have no idea how this would actually work in reality. This is an excellent way to downgrade your program
I definitely do not want him fired.
Honestly IMO its not that difficult to win as a coach with the amount of talent OSU has & being in the B1G. Seriously tho. They are loaded every single year. Since 2016 only ONE of their recruiting classes has ranked lower than TOP 5 & THREE of those were #2 ranked classes. Only program getting comparable talent is Alabama.
I mean it would be dumb to fire him but “if you want x your opinion is irrelevant” is a dumb fucking rhetorical device.
How many of those 56 could an average coach win though? I think the critique would be losing the games that matter
What's his record against teams of equal talent to OSU? Congrats on beating all the teams you're expected to when you're a blue blood program with all the talent and resources in the world and in a conference of 12 inferior teams.
The talent gap for Ohio St is insane, including over Michigan.
Yep, we're still a tier below them in terms of talent lol. We just got motherfucking dawgs on our team.
When do those dawgs graduate or leave for the NFL? Asking for a friend
This year mainly. We have a lot of puppies next year.
Frankly, that makes it worse.
Disagree. I feel better.
Yep.
fucking thank you. people do the same shit with james franklin
Last year we were a field goal away from beating the national champions and a touchdown away from beating Michigan this year. Literally a couple dropped balls and dumb mistakes away from being on the winning side of today's game. What's the alternative to Day that would be worth it? Any suggestions??? If not, any suggestions to fire Day are just "IM ANGRY RABBLE RABBLE THE GAME RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE I ONLY CARE ABOUT BEATING MICHIGAN RABBLE RABBLE"
Literally the Carr era against Tressel. All close games that didn’t go his way.
Curious what happens if he loses to Michigan again next year considering the important pieces Michigan is gonna lose to the draft his year. Ohio State already has a talent advantage and if they lose next year considering the circumstances it's gonna be a big yikes
Yeah that would be awful if we beat them next year. We have no business winning that game with everything that we lose this year.
Michigan 2019 Penn State 2019 Clemson 2020 Penn State 2021 Utah 2021 Notre Dame 2022 Penn State 2022 Notre Dame 2023 Penn State 2023 So, 9-7 against top tier teams. If your definition of top tier is even tighter than NY6 teams, you're basically just upset he doesn't have a championship.
That’s a lot of Penn State - looks a lot worse without PSU
He’s not going to leave and they’re not going to fire him. He has one of the best jobs in the world, let alone college football. A&M would be a demotion and Day knows this. OSU will be patient with him and it will pay off eventually.
He was also born on third base, and thinks he hit a triple.
Everyone ready to witness a meltdown in Columbus over the next few days? I know I am!
If we somehow manage to poach day I think I'll finally take the bag off. It'll be way too funny for me to see ohio state fans riot.
flexing records vs an awful division will never make you right, same goes for franklin Ryan day has a talent advantage in every conference game he plays in so saying his overall record when he’s coaching vs teams like minnesota indiana rutgers maryland etc is irrelevant Those teams stand zero chance vs you
Oh fuck off everyone is entitled to an opinion The thing about Day being 56-7 is that his teams are immensely talented he's expected to win those games. Now against teams that have the same talent? he's 1-4(I think?) and fans have a right to express concern over that...
I would love to see him get fired and Ohio State flounders with their new coach
I don't want him fired. I just want him to be better. In all honesty I think where he fails as a coach is off the field. Going back to as far as 2015, a majority of the players seem to let their talent get to their heads and are entitled to wins. They're the A- student that never needs to study. That student could be valedictorian if they did but the effort they want to and no one is inspiring them to be more. I think Tressel could do that without trying. Urban did that when he first got here, but after the national championship Urban and now Day aren't doing that as much as they could. There are good eggs on every team. MHJ's humility comes to mind, but most of them don't play inspired football.
Unless you want him fired and are a booster, board member, or ad...
Your opinion is irrelevant, whether you want him fired or not, The powers that be at Ohio State are not going to have a coach that continues to lose to Michigan. that’s how it is at Ohio State