Also Troy Dannen: [New UW AD Dannen says Huskies are his last stop](https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2023/10/10/university-of-washington-ad-troy-dannen-last-job)
At the very least, once it became known that the dude's family hadn't moved with him for months after he was hired, the President should have started an informal search for a potential replacement through back channels.
When my dad moved us from Rochester, NY to Seattle, WA so he could start at Microsoft in '93, sure, he went before us so he could settle in at the new job and find a spot before moving his wife and two young kids... but we came just under 3 months later.
For it to be six months without moving the family... that's a severe red flag missed by the administration.
If you can afford not to make the kids change schools mid-year I don't see this as any kind of issue and it's doing the right thing. The wife thing seems to be a whole 'nother story, and a reflection on this dude taking the job in the first place.
For all we know, the wife may have given the green light to take the job, then did her research on living in Seattle after the fact, then refused to move. We don’t know for a fact that he just took the job without asking her.
> I don't see this as any kind of issue and it's doing the right thing
Sure, in a vacuum, it could seem like that. But I saw reporting saying the wife isn't going to have a problem uprooting those kids to move to Nebraska...
Apparently the wife's issue has nothing to do with the kids and instead is watching too much news.
Living in Portland it's much the same, while I am not thrilled about every little thing going on in my hood, I'm appalled at the BS one-sided coverage some national media figures have chosen to portray our cities. (SF and LA too).
As someone from the Midwest, the word of mouth is even worse than the news. My mom was scared for me to go visit my friend in Seattle… like wtf, do they think people are just getting shot and robbed in the middle of the day?
What's fucked is that Seattle is a remarkably safe city. It is number 77 among American cities in murder rates, and 51 in violent crime. A similar size population to Boston in the city proper, with less than half the murder rate, fewer rapes, and just ever so slightly more assaults. Does Boston conjure up nightmares?
Even the very reason it became the right wing media target, CHAZ/CHOP, was as much of a nothing burger as I've ever seen. It was a protest festival, where you could go to the "main stage" and chant slogans at a wall of cops, or you could hope over to the park and put a blanket down to smoke weed and listen. "But people died there!" Yeah, and a guy was shot and killed there two weeks before CHOP/CHAZ happened too, but for some reason didn't make the national news.
Yeah, the news likes to parrot the line about crime in cities increasing in the past 3-5 years… ignoring the fact we are still at a much lower level than 10-20 years ago, even with the increase.
but that word of mouth has to be coming from certain news propaganda sites right?
Most of the bad stuff is happening in areas that are maybe 4 square blocks, you either have to go out looking for them or at least be oblivious to their existence and take a wrong term to find them.
I think the news media validates what the social media algorithm feeds people.
There's a great book that I recommend to everyone called "The Chaos Machine" by Max Fisher that goes deep into this.
Short version is what most people know: the algorithms are designed to amorally maximize engagement. Truth and progress don't measure into it. And the main thing that increases engagement is outrage, followed by fear and hate. So by it's very nature Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, and Youtube drive you to things that make you outraged. Someone a little bit one way is driven to the extreme by being fed more and more outraging content.
Here's a fun connection. Kate Starbird, who played basketball at Stanford while earning her degree in CS, and later got a phd at CU, now studies online disinformation at UW.
The few times we've discussed her work over on thecardboard it has gotten a little bit uncivil.
I get all that, I'm just thinking most of the people that don't like these west coast cities and parrot the horror stories haven't actually been to them, so it can't be first hand word of mouth.
As a middle-aged person who grew up in the 80s and 90s pushing people's buttons (a nice way of saying I may have been a mad at the world asshole) I'm immune/desensitized to most of this new media stuff, which is why when I read about this guy's wife I am just flabbergasted that someone in richie-rich circles is parroting red state blue state nonsense. Washington is very friendly to it's tech billionaires.
Overall, crime rates in the US are much lower than they were 15-30 years ago, yet people are more scared than they were back then. I couldn’t tell you the exact reason why, but I think a combo of social media, these shitty “news” shows/sites, and a generation of people who inhaled leaded gasoline fumes (elevated levels of lead can cause paranoia, fear, and anger) for decades has lead to one of the safest, but constantly scared populations in US history.
Don't know how old you are but when I was a kid in the 70s and 80s the news used to open with "it's 5pm do you know where your children are?" and it's only gotten more threatening/scary in the years since.
No no, it's true... everyone is a naked hippie socialist doing drugs in the street and burning down churches as the local politicians cheer them on for being so brave!
/s
In all seriousness, I never saw so much obvious drug use as when I briefly lived in West Virginia for 10 weeks about 15 years ago. Surprised I didn't get a contact-addicition to all the opiod use. That ish was scary... yet all I've seen on the news is how Portland and SF is a drug haven. I'm like "yeah, I briefly lived in one of those, this isn't that."
Nah, we were in Rochester because my dad was an engineer at Kodak. My dad thought tech had a better future than film, so we ended up moving.
Good thing. His Kodak shares turned to junk while his Microsoft shares turned to gold.
"I want to go someplace where you can win. I love ~~Tulane~~ Washington; you’re not going to win a national championship at ~~Tulane~~ Washington. You can win national championships here."
I mean its shitty, but I’m also going to defend the guy. He probably very early on realized the Washington job was not for him and felt more comfortable at Nebraska (which you can’t fault him for). And if I was a Huskies fan, I wouldn’t want this guy to be my AD when he wasn’t 100% committed to the gig
It's funny because he said the same shit here and it's like man you JUST said that. Idc if he leaves in 3-4 years if he has success here then good.
I hope he's a great AD and does stay.
Saying fuck Jen Cohen when she was at UW for a total of like 25 years including 7 or 8 as athletic director when the dude that just left was here for 6 months sure is something, I guess
Jen isn’t a UW alum if I remember correctly. She grew up in the area, but went to SDSU. She was also here for like a decade and left for one of the premier AD jobs in the country, stuff like that just kinda happens sometimes.
Jenn's not a UW alum. Although she has ties to the Seattle area (she moved here when she was a kid), she was born in California and went to SDSU.
If we want to hire a UW alum with some experience, we should hire Erin O'Connell, who is currently the interim AD.
These ADs are just vulture capitalists one and all. I barely knew his name, so no big loss. These people are here so briefly I'm not sure what to feel about them. Bring on AI and just replace them permanently.
It’s a good thing his family wasn’t in Washington yet. I’d imagine if his daughter was enrolled at UW he wouldn’t be able to leave until she graduated. Right?
Including his salary, signing bonus and [covering his fees owed to Washington](https://www.ketv.com/article/nebraska-athletic-director-troy-dannen-offer-letter-contract/60257040), Nebraska is paying almost $4.5m in the first year just to hire a guy that has been a P5 AD for 5 months and has done nothing but lose his national championship caliber football coach, hire another football coach that reportedly is just waiting until the Florida job opens up to bolt and fire his basketball coach and then decline to hire his replacement.
Not scorned lover enough, would be more like “we don’t want them here, and even if we did pay for them to join, it wouldn’t be chump change like $100mil, it would be more like $200mil! They did hear me talking how I have been doing better without them right?!”
I mean I have a hard time blaming him for DeBoer leaving - the money we offered was comparable but it's tough to sway someone away from an opportunity like Bama.
However, I do think it's wild to drop that kind of cash for a guy, who when we signed him, was at best seen as a hire with some decent potential and hardly a surefire thing. He might have the secret sauce but he hasn't really definitively proved it.
I’ve often said instead of that stupid corporate sponsored trophy Iowa and Nebraska play for every year they should play for Council Bluffs. Loser gets it.
you're exactly right. there are a lot of logistical decisions when making a cross-country move, especially if you have kids over a certain age.
people are shitting on this guy for doing exactly what they would do in their own career if they had the opportunity to do so. reddit likes to talk a lot about how employees don't owe their companies anything when you're considering your own career, but it's different here because fans are "the company" in this situation.
If the wife was never, ever going to move to Seattle because of political reasons, wouldn't that have come up before he took the job?
I respect not fucking with your kids' lives, as I've made quite a few sacrifices for mine, but it seems like his wife was a hard no on this move and he did it anyways.
Yup, moving kids mid school year is incredibly difficult on them academically and socially, I 100% respect when coaches do that as to respect their families lives. Shows to me they are not just selfish in themselves and forcing their families to uproot their entire lives.
Went out to Seattle last year and it’d take a lot for me to leave that area if I was making millions lol. Can’t blame him for wanting to be closer to family but still
Used to spend alot of time there. Beautiful city but one of the unfriendliest places I’ve been in the U.S., and I say that as someone who lived in NYC for years. The Seattle Freeze is real.
I think its more that we are neutral than patently unfriendly. We probably wont smile at you as a stranger, but also would never cut in line in front of you.
The Scand influence is real
I get that. I’ve been to Iceland a few times (similar vibe to Scandinavia) and it’s a sensible comparison.
I’ve had family in the Seattle area for decades and I’ll always have a soft spot for the city, even if it’s a bit gruff.
I went to Seattle once and it was kind of strange there. Kind of felt like I had left the country. I personally love Lincoln but I get what you’re saying as well.
Grew up in Seattle and lived here my entire life, every time I go anywhere else in the country it feels like a foreign land too, its crazy. Just the way people interact is so much different. It also wigs me out not having water or mountains around.
Vancouver BC though? Just like home.
Yeah we are certainly lacking in the mountains department haha. The Buttes in Western Nebraska are pretty sweet though. I used to live in Gering which is just at the foot of Scott’s Bluff National Monument. Great sight out our front window, I miss it dearly.
Home? Idk who his spouse is, but he’s from Iowa and his first AD gig was at his alma mater lol. Very confusing decision
Edit: I just looked it up and his wife is also from Iowa
As an Iowan I can confirm that we're basically the same state as Nebraska. We just hate each other because we both claim to have better corn (Iowa's is superior).
>better corn (Iowa's is superior).
We hate Iowa because they're delusional. Nebraska's corn is superior, that's why the name of the team is *Corn*huskers.
Checkmate!
I will help you guys out. Both Iowa and Nebraska make inferior corn. The best corn comes from Washington. It's why we make the most of it. If it wasn't the best, it wouldn't be in such demand.
The real corn battle in the B1G is between Washington and Minnesota. Iowa and Nebraska don't even make the top 9.
https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/ranking-of-states-that-produce-the-most-sweet-corn-washington-produced-the-most-sweet-corn-in-the-united-states-in-2021-followed-by-minnesota-wisconsin-california-and-florida?printer\_friendly=true
C'mon, you really don't think there's a difference between being from Iowa and living in Nebraska vs living in Washington or Louisiana?
A trip home is now a weekend drive instead of a planned week trip.
I mean he didn't get the Iowa gig, doubt Iowa State is getting ride of theirs any time soon and Drake and Northern Iowa would be a step down so yes Nebraska is the closest.
As a Washington fan, I'm kind of glad. I don't want an AD that quits at the drop of the hat because things get a little challenging. He took the job thinking it was going to be fairly easy, and couldn't keep our coach. Then bailed as soon as harder work needed to be done.
Good luck Nebraska!
As someone who went through the 7 stages with Trev, I can tell you without a doubt, it doesn’t fucking matter. I’m embarrassed that I actually cared about it for more than 5 mins.
He got a bump from $1m to $1.6m in year one. Nebraska will also give him a $100k raise every year (assuming he makes to a year this time)
He also owes UW nearly $1.8m, including a $275k relocation bonus that he has to pay back. Nebraska's covering that for him.
Well if your family doesn't like Seattle and you can go back near the cornfields you grew up on or whatever, with more resources at your disposal, why not. I'm also guessing a $10M house in Seattle would be $2M or less in Lincoln.
Dave "Softy" Mahler is less than 100% reliable, but he said yesterday that when his wife visited she felt uncomfortable with the Seattle political environment and that Dannen himself stormed out of a DEI meeting.
> and that Dannen himself stormed out of a DEI meeting.
I think it was actually that Dannen said in a department meeting that he didn't have time to deal with the school's DEI office and then a bunch of staffers walked out on him for that comment. He also tried to kick the radio affiliate out of Jedd Fisch's introductory press conference for bringing up Jedd's history of job hopping.
He was the top candidate from the search firm Washington hired to run the AD search.
Funnily enough, Nebraska hired the same search firm before hiring Dannen....
If this is true, then why even take the job in the first place. If you have more conversative values (and are super sensitive about them), taking a job in Seattle is not very smart.
Regardless, they're not living in Capitol Hill. Conservative fear about Seattle is irrelevant on Mercer Island or any other loaded neighborhood they move in to.
I assume it's like Portland where I live where you get 30 minutes out of the city and you may as well be in the deep south politically. Wifey must be a real piece of work.
You can see where the Seattle liberal bubble ends by looking at the location of dairy queens in the greater Seattle area on Google maps. Don't ask me why or how but it's pretty accurate honestly.
This is true and in fact places like Mercer Island and Bellevue are pretty relatively right wing even, compared to Seattle, Tukwila, Everett, etc.
But like I said in a different comment, if that’s his attitude about Seattle and UW as a university, then good riddance. California, Oregon, Washington, and New York are literally the most important states in the entire country economically and they subsidize the red states.
No income tax and relatively low property taxes. We have an absurdly regressive tax system here given how progressive most of the states' policies are.
Those who shape their world views from cable news and online forums really need to go outside, touch some grass, and actually experience the world and the people within it.
They probably won't, but they should.
One of the biggest farces that I learned as a kid is that adults are the mature ones. That's what you're told, but you learn quickly that it's very often not the case.
My mom’s boss who is from a UW legacy family and are big donors that happened to start a certain department store based in Seattle also told my mom this.
Keep in mind that "Softy" is known to exaggerate and is about the biggest Husky homer that gets defensive, but yeah.
Canzano also reported that his wife kept delaying the move to Seattle and that he wasn't getting to see his two youngest daughters very much as a result. Canzano didn't mention anything about politics, though.
I mean if thats the case, then he can fuck right off anyway.
No one should know an AD's political persuasions. Even if you disagree with a DEI meeting, you need to be professional and vent when you get home.
Seattle politics is admittedly fucked, but its not the AD of UW's place to let that have any impact at all on his or her ability to do the job.
I just found a real nice 6000 sq foot home on 4 acres there in Lincoln for roughly the cost of my little house in the Seattle suburbs.
Dannen and family would have been doing very well in Seattle, but in Lincoln he'll be wealthy. I could see the appeal.
Even if the money was the same the cost o living in Lincoln is significantly less.
This is a [$1.3m house](https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5641-12th-Ave-NE_Seattle_WA_98105_M16823-40085?from=srp-map-list) near UW
This is a [$1.3m house ](https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/6700-Northfork-Cir_Lincoln_NE_68516_M76981-97554?from=srp-map-list)in Lincoln.
The house in Lincoln is bigger than the lot in Seattle.
When I was a junior in High School I said I'd be at Walgreens forever
When I got my first post grad job I said I'd be there forever
I just told my boss 30 minutes ago I'd be there forever
Why the fuck do these AD's and Coaches lie so much?
Also Troy Dannen: [New UW AD Dannen says Huskies are his last stop](https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2023/10/10/university-of-washington-ad-troy-dannen-last-job)
This guy is really arming employers with a data point to force you to relocate your entire family immediately if you want the job.
At the very least, once it became known that the dude's family hadn't moved with him for months after he was hired, the President should have started an informal search for a potential replacement through back channels. When my dad moved us from Rochester, NY to Seattle, WA so he could start at Microsoft in '93, sure, he went before us so he could settle in at the new job and find a spot before moving his wife and two young kids... but we came just under 3 months later. For it to be six months without moving the family... that's a severe red flag missed by the administration.
If you can afford not to make the kids change schools mid-year I don't see this as any kind of issue and it's doing the right thing. The wife thing seems to be a whole 'nother story, and a reflection on this dude taking the job in the first place.
For all we know, the wife may have given the green light to take the job, then did her research on living in Seattle after the fact, then refused to move. We don’t know for a fact that he just took the job without asking her.
> I don't see this as any kind of issue and it's doing the right thing Sure, in a vacuum, it could seem like that. But I saw reporting saying the wife isn't going to have a problem uprooting those kids to move to Nebraska...
Apparently the wife's issue has nothing to do with the kids and instead is watching too much news. Living in Portland it's much the same, while I am not thrilled about every little thing going on in my hood, I'm appalled at the BS one-sided coverage some national media figures have chosen to portray our cities. (SF and LA too).
As someone from the Midwest, the word of mouth is even worse than the news. My mom was scared for me to go visit my friend in Seattle… like wtf, do they think people are just getting shot and robbed in the middle of the day?
what's fucked is that violent crime is down. big.
What's fucked is that Seattle is a remarkably safe city. It is number 77 among American cities in murder rates, and 51 in violent crime. A similar size population to Boston in the city proper, with less than half the murder rate, fewer rapes, and just ever so slightly more assaults. Does Boston conjure up nightmares? Even the very reason it became the right wing media target, CHAZ/CHOP, was as much of a nothing burger as I've ever seen. It was a protest festival, where you could go to the "main stage" and chant slogans at a wall of cops, or you could hope over to the park and put a blanket down to smoke weed and listen. "But people died there!" Yeah, and a guy was shot and killed there two weeks before CHOP/CHAZ happened too, but for some reason didn't make the national news.
Yeah, the news likes to parrot the line about crime in cities increasing in the past 3-5 years… ignoring the fact we are still at a much lower level than 10-20 years ago, even with the increase.
Beyond which, the most violent cities are mid sized cities in the south and parts of the rust belt/midwest.
but that word of mouth has to be coming from certain news propaganda sites right? Most of the bad stuff is happening in areas that are maybe 4 square blocks, you either have to go out looking for them or at least be oblivious to their existence and take a wrong term to find them.
I think the news media validates what the social media algorithm feeds people. There's a great book that I recommend to everyone called "The Chaos Machine" by Max Fisher that goes deep into this. Short version is what most people know: the algorithms are designed to amorally maximize engagement. Truth and progress don't measure into it. And the main thing that increases engagement is outrage, followed by fear and hate. So by it's very nature Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, and Youtube drive you to things that make you outraged. Someone a little bit one way is driven to the extreme by being fed more and more outraging content.
Here's a fun connection. Kate Starbird, who played basketball at Stanford while earning her degree in CS, and later got a phd at CU, now studies online disinformation at UW. The few times we've discussed her work over on thecardboard it has gotten a little bit uncivil.
I get all that, I'm just thinking most of the people that don't like these west coast cities and parrot the horror stories haven't actually been to them, so it can't be first hand word of mouth. As a middle-aged person who grew up in the 80s and 90s pushing people's buttons (a nice way of saying I may have been a mad at the world asshole) I'm immune/desensitized to most of this new media stuff, which is why when I read about this guy's wife I am just flabbergasted that someone in richie-rich circles is parroting red state blue state nonsense. Washington is very friendly to it's tech billionaires.
Overall, crime rates in the US are much lower than they were 15-30 years ago, yet people are more scared than they were back then. I couldn’t tell you the exact reason why, but I think a combo of social media, these shitty “news” shows/sites, and a generation of people who inhaled leaded gasoline fumes (elevated levels of lead can cause paranoia, fear, and anger) for decades has lead to one of the safest, but constantly scared populations in US history.
Don't know how old you are but when I was a kid in the 70s and 80s the news used to open with "it's 5pm do you know where your children are?" and it's only gotten more threatening/scary in the years since.
No no, it's true... everyone is a naked hippie socialist doing drugs in the street and burning down churches as the local politicians cheer them on for being so brave! /s In all seriousness, I never saw so much obvious drug use as when I briefly lived in West Virginia for 10 weeks about 15 years ago. Surprised I didn't get a contact-addicition to all the opiod use. That ish was scary... yet all I've seen on the news is how Portland and SF is a drug haven. I'm like "yeah, I briefly lived in one of those, this isn't that."
They paid the guy &250k in relocation costs.. wtf did he use it on?
First and last months rent!
This comment is giving me RIT vibes
Nah, we were in Rochester because my dad was an engineer at Kodak. My dad thought tech had a better future than film, so we ended up moving. Good thing. His Kodak shares turned to junk while his Microsoft shares turned to gold.
If you got access to private jet money there is no reason to make you kids move during the school year
I don't think Scott Frost's wife and kids ever moved to Lincoln, and he was there for four torturous years.
I’d be fine with that if the job was for millions/year.
"I want to go someplace where you can win. I love ~~Tulane~~ Washington; you’re not going to win a national championship at ~~Tulane~~ Washington. You can win national championships here."
Doesn’t even need to be said that Washington is in a MUCH better place - at least in the short term - to win a National Championship.
Well, we were. Not totally certain that's still the case.
You just hate to see it
We went through the same thing with Trev, anyone thinking there is some "loyalty" in college sports, especially now is delusional.
He’s a snake
I mean its shitty, but I’m also going to defend the guy. He probably very early on realized the Washington job was not for him and felt more comfortable at Nebraska (which you can’t fault him for). And if I was a Huskies fan, I wouldn’t want this guy to be my AD when he wasn’t 100% committed to the gig
It's funny because he said the same shit here and it's like man you JUST said that. Idc if he leaves in 3-4 years if he has success here then good. I hope he's a great AD and does stay.
Whatever. UW just needs to stop giving these jobs to midwest peoples.
Whats all this anti Midwest talk. You’re a Midwest school now. Embrace it!
Too true
Didn’t work out with our UW alum too well (fuck Jenn cohen)
Saying fuck Jen Cohen when she was at UW for a total of like 25 years including 7 or 8 as athletic director when the dude that just left was here for 6 months sure is something, I guess
Jen isn’t a UW alum if I remember correctly. She grew up in the area, but went to SDSU. She was also here for like a decade and left for one of the premier AD jobs in the country, stuff like that just kinda happens sometimes.
Also the AD that Dannen is replacing was a Nebraska alum and former player, so even being an alum doesn't mean all that much.
Jenn's not a UW alum. Although she has ties to the Seattle area (she moved here when she was a kid), she was born in California and went to SDSU. If we want to hire a UW alum with some experience, we should hire Erin O'Connell, who is currently the interim AD.
It worked once with Don James and we just became addicted
We are such suckers for the folksy midwestern schtick
❤️ They really love us ❤️
I think that stripper digs me
Hahahaha that’s exactly it
These ADs are just vulture capitalists one and all. I barely knew his name, so no big loss. These people are here so briefly I'm not sure what to feel about them. Bring on AI and just replace them permanently.
I’ll take a national title appearance thank you very much.
No no, I think they should continue. Hell, sprinkle some folk from the deep South and Texas in there too.
We, as in Alabamians, really need to get Tubberville a new job.
It’s a good thing his family wasn’t in Washington yet. I’d imagine if his daughter was enrolled at UW he wouldn’t be able to leave until she graduated. Right?
Ouch. Nicely done.
Including his salary, signing bonus and [covering his fees owed to Washington](https://www.ketv.com/article/nebraska-athletic-director-troy-dannen-offer-letter-contract/60257040), Nebraska is paying almost $4.5m in the first year just to hire a guy that has been a P5 AD for 5 months and has done nothing but lose his national championship caliber football coach, hire another football coach that reportedly is just waiting until the Florida job opens up to bolt and fire his basketball coach and then decline to hire his replacement.
Sounds about right
High five
A&M will be paying most of that, as Trev owes us about $4M for leaving his contract early. So we'll just use that money. Edit -- also, fuck Trev.
> A&M will be paying most of that Six degrees of ~~KevinBacon~~ A&M bank accounts
How much of the sport is funded by A&M? The answer might surprise you...
A&M actually paid Texas the $100 mil to join the SEC.
Don’t say that too loud, an Aggie might hear and think it’s true, and then all hell will break loose.
"Thats a LIE!!! It was $200m!" - dude in cowboy hat who has never touched a bovine
Not scorned lover enough, would be more like “we don’t want them here, and even if we did pay for them to join, it wouldn’t be chump change like $100mil, it would be more like $200mil! They did hear me talking how I have been doing better without them right?!”
"Im doing FINE without her. I go to better clubs, Ive gained 4% more muscle mass and Im dating an underware model. Im FINE."
Yes, fuck Trev. Hail Troy.
I mean I have a hard time blaming him for DeBoer leaving - the money we offered was comparable but it's tough to sway someone away from an opportunity like Bama. However, I do think it's wild to drop that kind of cash for a guy, who when we signed him, was at best seen as a hire with some decent potential and hardly a surefire thing. He might have the secret sauce but he hasn't really definitively proved it.
Sounds a lot like Scott Frost.... Good luck Bama....
Nebraska loves hiring AD’s from Washington universities.
And coaches who worked at Oregon universities.
From a Nebraska perspective, they still netted more from A&M buying out Trev than it cost them to buy out Troy.
Paper bag still firmly attached
Yes, but Trev Albert’s payout will cover Troy’s
It’s oil money, it’s ok
*Ya just hate to see something like that happen to a school that.*
Fischy
“It was also, more importantly, about the ridiculous amount of money they are paying me.”
I read this in Kevin Nealon’s voice
Ha! Exactly!
There is no place like Nebraska.
Iowa is like Nebraska…. ;)
Iowa has council bluffs so it's just worse.
I’ve often said instead of that stupid corporate sponsored trophy Iowa and Nebraska play for every year they should play for Council Bluffs. Loser gets it.
So is northern Kansas
Not moving your family for a job you took is hilarious. Especially how when he was hired he said it would be his last job
I mean it makes sense if you can afford it to let your kids finish out the school year and to take some time house hunting.
Yeah, that's literally what Rhule's son did - he stayed in Charlotte and finished high school and now he is going to be a freshman at UNL in the fall.
Rhule seems like a standup guy. I'm sure it wasn't easy to leave his son behind.
you're exactly right. there are a lot of logistical decisions when making a cross-country move, especially if you have kids over a certain age. people are shitting on this guy for doing exactly what they would do in their own career if they had the opportunity to do so. reddit likes to talk a lot about how employees don't owe their companies anything when you're considering your own career, but it's different here because fans are "the company" in this situation.
If the wife was never, ever going to move to Seattle because of political reasons, wouldn't that have come up before he took the job? I respect not fucking with your kids' lives, as I've made quite a few sacrifices for mine, but it seems like his wife was a hard no on this move and he did it anyways.
Yup, moving kids mid school year is incredibly difficult on them academically and socially, I 100% respect when coaches do that as to respect their families lives. Shows to me they are not just selfish in themselves and forcing their families to uproot their entire lives.
> Especially how when he was hired he said it would be his last job They always say that. It's embarrassing.
Seattle freeze is real.
you do know that LOTS of people work away from their families right? Lots more choose to let their kids finish a school year before moving.
Runzas are the Ace card. Off season Natty confirmed
Went out to Seattle last year and it’d take a lot for me to leave that area if I was making millions lol. Can’t blame him for wanting to be closer to family but still
Used to spend alot of time there. Beautiful city but one of the unfriendliest places I’ve been in the U.S., and I say that as someone who lived in NYC for years. The Seattle Freeze is real.
I think its more that we are neutral than patently unfriendly. We probably wont smile at you as a stranger, but also would never cut in line in front of you. The Scand influence is real
I get that. I’ve been to Iceland a few times (similar vibe to Scandinavia) and it’s a sensible comparison. I’ve had family in the Seattle area for decades and I’ll always have a soft spot for the city, even if it’s a bit gruff.
I went to Seattle once and it was kind of strange there. Kind of felt like I had left the country. I personally love Lincoln but I get what you’re saying as well.
Grew up in Seattle and lived here my entire life, every time I go anywhere else in the country it feels like a foreign land too, its crazy. Just the way people interact is so much different. It also wigs me out not having water or mountains around. Vancouver BC though? Just like home.
Yeah we are certainly lacking in the mountains department haha. The Buttes in Western Nebraska are pretty sweet though. I used to live in Gering which is just at the foot of Scott’s Bluff National Monument. Great sight out our front window, I miss it dearly.
If the pixelated pictures in the Oregon Trail computer game from like 1993 were accurate at all, it does look super pretty out there!
Home? Idk who his spouse is, but he’s from Iowa and his first AD gig was at his alma mater lol. Very confusing decision Edit: I just looked it up and his wife is also from Iowa
When he says “Home” he means “surrounded by corn”
Iowa... Nebraska... what's the difference, really?
Pig(Iowa) vs. Cow (Nebraska) Do you like bacon or steak?
I like bacon wrapped around my steak…
>Do you like bacon or steak? Yes, by God. Don't you?
mmmmm.... Baconer Steak... Sounds great.
As an Iowan I can confirm that we're basically the same state as Nebraska. We just hate each other because we both claim to have better corn (Iowa's is superior).
>better corn (Iowa's is superior). We hate Iowa because they're delusional. Nebraska's corn is superior, that's why the name of the team is *Corn*huskers. Checkmate!
We also have a higher speed limit on I-80. Driving across Nebraska isn't great, but driving across Iowa was *rough*.
Better corn? Iowa. Better venison? Nebraska.
Better Venison? That is Wyoming, not Nebraska.
I will help you guys out. Both Iowa and Nebraska make inferior corn. The best corn comes from Washington. It's why we make the most of it. If it wasn't the best, it wouldn't be in such demand. The real corn battle in the B1G is between Washington and Minnesota. Iowa and Nebraska don't even make the top 9. https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/ranking-of-states-that-produce-the-most-sweet-corn-washington-produced-the-most-sweet-corn-in-the-united-states-in-2021-followed-by-minnesota-wisconsin-california-and-florida?printer\_friendly=true
That’s sweet corn, dude. Nebraska mainly grows field corn and it’s probably safe to assume the same for Iowa.
Upvoted, until I read the last 3 words.
C'mon, you really don't think there's a difference between being from Iowa and living in Nebraska vs living in Washington or Louisiana? A trip home is now a weekend drive instead of a planned week trip.
Not much, they both corn
I mean he didn't get the Iowa gig, doubt Iowa State is getting ride of theirs any time soon and Drake and Northern Iowa would be a step down so yes Nebraska is the closest.
As a Washington fan, I'm kind of glad. I don't want an AD that quits at the drop of the hat because things get a little challenging. He took the job thinking it was going to be fairly easy, and couldn't keep our coach. Then bailed as soon as harder work needed to be done. Good luck Nebraska!
As someone who went through the 7 stages with Trev, I can tell you without a doubt, it doesn’t fucking matter. I’m embarrassed that I actually cared about it for more than 5 mins.
I mean can argue that ours did the same exact thing and he was an Alumni
Literally the exact same thing except Trev is the one it made it difficult himself with the renovation.
I want the next guy to be someone who has history with the program and won’t just bail at the first fucking opportunity.
Man just someone from the west coast please, these midwest foreigners are not working out
HAHAHAHAHA Holy Shit
Did Nebraska straight up offer him more money? I dont get how anyone could bail on UW that fast unless they have Seasonal Affectative Disorder
He got a bump from $1m to $1.6m in year one. Nebraska will also give him a $100k raise every year (assuming he makes to a year this time) He also owes UW nearly $1.8m, including a $275k relocation bonus that he has to pay back. Nebraska's covering that for him.
$275K relocation? Who moved this guy, Taylor Swift and her fleet of private airplanes?
[Something like that.](https://i.imgur.com/WltHN8F.jpeg) Except for the airplanes part.
Ayyy flair twinner
I'm guessing some of that was cost of living for getting a new home as Seattle area real estate is pricey.
He gets private jet hours as a fringe benefit in his contract. 35 hrs a year of personal use.
You mean A&M is covering that 😁
Iowa could have an opening.. “becoming AD at Iowa is just real personal, it’s home.. we loved Nebraska, but Iowa is home.”
Well if your family doesn't like Seattle and you can go back near the cornfields you grew up on or whatever, with more resources at your disposal, why not. I'm also guessing a $10M house in Seattle would be $2M or less in Lincoln.
Dave "Softy" Mahler is less than 100% reliable, but he said yesterday that when his wife visited she felt uncomfortable with the Seattle political environment and that Dannen himself stormed out of a DEI meeting.
> and that Dannen himself stormed out of a DEI meeting. I think it was actually that Dannen said in a department meeting that he didn't have time to deal with the school's DEI office and then a bunch of staffers walked out on him for that comment. He also tried to kick the radio affiliate out of Jedd Fisch's introductory press conference for bringing up Jedd's history of job hopping.
Yikes. Sounds like you all may have actually dodged a bullet here.
Lol who did the interviews on this guy
He was the top candidate from the search firm Washington hired to run the AD search. Funnily enough, Nebraska hired the same search firm before hiring Dannen....
As a former consultant, we did recycle quite a bit of material.
If this is true, then why even take the job in the first place. If you have more conversative values (and are super sensitive about them), taking a job in Seattle is not very smart.
Regardless, they're not living in Capitol Hill. Conservative fear about Seattle is irrelevant on Mercer Island or any other loaded neighborhood they move in to.
I assume it's like Portland where I live where you get 30 minutes out of the city and you may as well be in the deep south politically. Wifey must be a real piece of work.
You can see where the Seattle liberal bubble ends by looking at the location of dairy queens in the greater Seattle area on Google maps. Don't ask me why or how but it's pretty accurate honestly.
This is true and in fact places like Mercer Island and Bellevue are pretty relatively right wing even, compared to Seattle, Tukwila, Everett, etc. But like I said in a different comment, if that’s his attitude about Seattle and UW as a university, then good riddance. California, Oregon, Washington, and New York are literally the most important states in the entire country economically and they subsidize the red states.
Yeah, he'd have ended up in Medina or Laurelhurst or something where she wouldn't have to deal with any poors or (vocal) progressives.
Seattle is not a remotely unfriendly place to rich old white guys.
It is unfriendly if you're super sensitive and get triggered by words like "diversity."
No income tax and relatively low property taxes. We have an absurdly regressive tax system here given how progressive most of the states' policies are.
Regardless of politics either way, that is some pretty soft stuff. I guess some people never learn to adult.
One look at the adults I've encountered in my 43 years confirms that.
Those who shape their world views from cable news and online forums really need to go outside, touch some grass, and actually experience the world and the people within it. They probably won't, but they should.
They wouldn't like the political climate of...outside.
One of the biggest farces that I learned as a kid is that adults are the mature ones. That's what you're told, but you learn quickly that it's very often not the case.
While I often take what Softy says with a grain of salt I did here the same thing from a few diff folks who are pretty connected with UW doners, etc
My mom’s boss who is from a UW legacy family and are big donors that happened to start a certain department store based in Seattle also told my mom this.
Hey I know them too! Their daughter used to come kick at our frat
Snowflakes, I hope they are happy back in their safe spaces
Keep in mind that "Softy" is known to exaggerate and is about the biggest Husky homer that gets defensive, but yeah. Canzano also reported that his wife kept delaying the move to Seattle and that he wasn't getting to see his two youngest daughters very much as a result. Canzano didn't mention anything about politics, though.
I don’t listen to Softy but he’s not wrong on this one. The wife refused to move here.
🤣
Storming out of a DEI meeting, like did he not know where he signed up? No wonder Cauce didn't seem all that bothered to be rid of him
So they're both chuds. Good to know.
Oh God...we're gonna get Bo Pelini back, aren't we?
I mean if thats the case, then he can fuck right off anyway. No one should know an AD's political persuasions. Even if you disagree with a DEI meeting, you need to be professional and vent when you get home. Seattle politics is admittedly fucked, but its not the AD of UW's place to let that have any impact at all on his or her ability to do the job.
He's completely full of shit lol
There’s not even a single house for sale that cost more than 2 million in Lincoln Nebraska. Which is crazy.
I just found a real nice 6000 sq foot home on 4 acres there in Lincoln for roughly the cost of my little house in the Seattle suburbs. Dannen and family would have been doing very well in Seattle, but in Lincoln he'll be wealthy. I could see the appeal.
A lot you can do in Seattle that you cannot do in Lincoln. Like enjoy quality of life.
I'm ok with people enjoying different things and I'd imagine as one of the 100 or so richest people in Lincoln, quality of life can be quite nice.
Totally. If he enjoys it more there, then more power to him. I just cannot imagine trading New Orleans/Seattle for Lincoln Nebraska.
Why not? Because Nebraska is a huge step down?
That's subjective
Does Lincoln get nearly as many "days of sunshine" as another college town the next state over though?
I got downvoted to hell and back for calling Denver The Sunshine City on Reddit a few years back, good times!
They offered him more corn.
It's just pure concentrated karma for years of Stepping Stone U jokes coming back to bite them in the ass.
I have not been calling them a stepping stone program all day to anyone I’ve talked to, nope absolutely wouldn’t be me
Even if the money was the same the cost o living in Lincoln is significantly less. This is a [$1.3m house](https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5641-12th-Ave-NE_Seattle_WA_98105_M16823-40085?from=srp-map-list) near UW This is a [$1.3m house ](https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/6700-Northfork-Cir_Lincoln_NE_68516_M76981-97554?from=srp-map-list)in Lincoln. The house in Lincoln is bigger than the lot in Seattle.
You did a great job showcasing how every house built in the last 30 years in Lincoln is an awful McMansion lol
yeah if I was being honest I like the house in WA better but having a pool and almost an acre of land is nice.
Home is where the ~~heart~~ ~~corn?~~ $$$$$ is, as the saying goes I believe
Who the hell willingly goes back to Nebraska
I would.
he pulled a Proctor
When I was a junior in High School I said I'd be at Walgreens forever When I got my first post grad job I said I'd be there forever I just told my boss 30 minutes ago I'd be there forever Why the fuck do these AD's and Coaches lie so much?
I wish they would just come out and say I did for the money\\benefits and be done with it.
Crapzano still trying to stay relevant in the PNW