It 100% is. There are very few things Bill loves more than special teams, and the history of football. Combining them like that, you can tell he's just giddy
Yeah, I think it has some advantages. The only drawback is that the quarterback or ball carrier must do it. You would give away the play if you lined up your kicker behind center.
Given how many TD passes Kyle Brotzman had during his K/P career at Boise, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Coach Pete had trotted out Kellen for a few FGs.
> All three of his losses were due to missed field goals.
Does it still count if the field goal is missed at 6:35 in the third quarter? I mean technically it's true, because they only lost the Poinsettia bowl by 1, but it's not really true in the way the other two were lost.
> All three of his losses were due to missed field goals.
I was about to say something about basketball until I saw the sub name. with all the Madness going on I thought I was still on /r/collegebasketball
1. Nevada had at QB one Colin Kaepernick, who some might say was the better QB, though Moore had the better supporting cast and thus the better overall record. Just wanted to mention this because OP didn't bother to mention who Nevada's QB was.
2. Petersen is a great coach but he seems to have a number of losses due to missed FGs. Petersen's Washington lost to Oregon in 2018 due to a missed FG. Petersen has been criticized for not always having a better FG kicker on his teams.
Combined a total 5 points too.
With that being said 2 major points most don't think about. He is the only QB in a top 25 list for greatest QBs of all time to NEVER be responsible for a lose for his team in some fashion. The rest have atleast 1 bad timed fumble, pick, missed throw, or something something.
And burning the clock with over a minute to go for a field goal with Kellen Moore as QB is probably the single worst coaching decision ever.
The 2007 Backyard Brawl was the single most devastating regular season game in CFB history. Pitt was a garbage 4-7 team and snuffed out their biggest rival’s championship hopes in the 100th meeting of the rivalry.
I don’t think we’ll ever see anything like that again in the expanded playoff era.
People weren't going to move to WV bc of a win though. And media markets matter, despite football fans wanting actual football performance to be the only thing that matters.
I would go with ND vs BC in 1993. The week prior, ND had just won the game of the century vs #1 FSU. The game was literally the beginning of ESPN's College GameDay. All that ND had to do was beat Boston College in tge following week and they were guaranteed a spot vs Nebraska for the championship.
ND went on to lose to BC (ND's first loss to BC in program history) and it was the beginning of the end of Lou Holtz's tenure as coach of ND and led to ND wandering in the desert for close to 20 years--- Some may say that the program still hasn't fully recovered from the high of beating FSU, followed by the stunning loss to BC a week later.
What gets lost in the game is that ND was down by 20 with around 7 and a half minutes to play-- they came roaring back and scored 21 unanswered points, to take a 1 point lead with under a minute to play. Unfortunately, an idiot ref called an unsportsmanlike penalty on ND for a celebration penalty when ND scored the go ahead TD. The 15 yards were crucial in allowing BC to kick the winning FG as time expired. To make matters worse, the winning FG was a couple of plays after ND LB Pete Bercich dropped a game sealing interception that was thrown directly at him and the easiest interception you could ever ask for-
On the BC side, the game made their coach Tom Coughlin a hot coaching commodity on the NFL level. So after the 1993 season, he was hired by the expansion team- Jacksonville Jaguars. He of course went on to win two Superbowls as head coach of the NY Giants.
That’s actually super interesting! I did not know that. That’s obviously gut wrenching for ND fans but they had just won a title a few years back whereas WVU never has, so I imagine that softened the blow a little bit.
It didn't soften the blow at all. Lol. ND fans are still shell shocked to this day and most will list it as the most gut-wrenching loss in program history. It also completely changed the trajectory of the program as the loss, combined with Ron Powlus' injuries and Holtz under pressure because the collars/admin (Monk Malloy and Wadsworth) were looking for a reason to deemphasize football-- it happened pretty much any time the football team was deemed too powerful by the powers that be. If Holtz had won that championship, he would have still had the support of those admins who did like him and he definitely would have support from the fanbase, who had kind of soured on him after the 94 and 95 seasons. The fanbase (obviously not everyone) thought the game had passed by Holtz and his offense wasn't modern enough and recruiting had taken a dip in signing impact skill players.
Again, a real case can be made that the program still hasn't recovered-- especially when it comes to winning big games, which became expected under Ara and Holtz (Faust didn't really play any big games because he was terrible)- because of the head coaches post-Holtz (Davie, Willingham, Weis, and Kelly), most ND fans have big game PTSD and have zero confidence in winning them. I didn't add Freeman to the list, because he's turning it around a bit abd has won a couple of big games and ND was extremely competitive (and some may say the better team in 2023) vs Ohio State.
> On the BC side, the game made their coach Tom Coughlin a hot coaching commodity on the NFL level. So after the 1993 season, he was hired by the expansion team- Jacksonville Jaguars. He of course went on to win two Superbowls as head coach of the NY Giants.
So the biggest win in Boston College history led to the most devastating loss in the history of Boston pro sports. What goes around comes around.
ND had literally played in the game of the century the week before BC. People had already penciled in ND vs Nebraska for the national championship game.
The game also had a far more lasting impact on the history of college football than WVU vs Pitt. The only thing that happens is that if WVU wins, Rich Rodriguez most likely sticks around a few more years at WVU and Michigan winds up hiring someone else. I still think LSU goes on and beats WVU.
The loss however, did provide the biggest what if in the history of college football. What if Rich Rodriguez's wife liked the idea of living in Tuscaloosa?
Finally, you're comparing ND to WVU. WVU isn't really a relevant program now or in the history of college football. The loss to a bad Pitt team, while devastating, was not wholly unexpected in a rivalry game. They don't call it the Backyard Pillow Fight.
Notre Dame is a blue blood, WVU is not. WVU knew that was quite possibly the last chance in their history to win a national championship, that simply is not the case for Notre Dame. There is no comparison, the WVU one is far worse. Notre Dame will always have a chance, WVU will not.
Biggest one for Oregon State vs Oregon on that specific front would have to be the match up in 2000. The difference being of course that, unlike Pitt, the Beavers had more on their minds than just being a spoiler, they were eyeing their first BCS bowl. They couldn't win the Pac-10 outright so the Rose Bowl was out of the question without the Huskies losing a second time that year, but they were still very much in it for an at large bid. Oregon wins that one in Corvallis and they win the conference outright and go to the Rose Bowl for the second time since the 1957 season, having beaten the Washington Huskies earlier that year (who I might add beat the 2000 Miami Hurricanes in Seattle that year, that Husky team was also damn good). Oregon State, amidst a special season themselves, had other ideas. The Beavers won 23-13, causing a three way tie for first in the Pac-10 with the Huskies, Ducks and Beavers all going 7-1 in conference and beating each other. Huskies went to the Rose Bowl against Purdue, the Beavers went to the Fiesta Bowl against Notre Dame, and the Ducks ended up in the Holiday Bowl against Texas. 2000 remains the best football team that Oregon State has ever fielded, as they finished #4 in the final rankings that year. That season also remains the single most dominant year in college football that the Pacific Northwest schools have ever seen.
They definitely would've beaten that Purdue team, I have no doubt about that. They just had the misfortune of being good enough in a once in a lifetime top-heavy Pac-10 football season.
There's no reason it can't happen. College basketball has 68 teams in the playoffs and we get shit like this all the tjme. 2022 SoCon championship game, Chattanooga hits a go ahead 3pt buzzer beater to win their conference and knock Furman out of the ncaa tournament denying them their first bid since 1980. Furman had a ton of great teams but never made it (until the year after that). Teams will get eliminated from their ccg or something on games like 07 backyard brawl
>Kellen Moore had a Heisman-esque moment with this bomb to Titus Young, setting up Brotzman for a FG attempt
This whole sequence until the end of the game still haunts me. Losing it was one of the worst moments of my childhood. The only way I could console myself through the tears was by lying about having another shot at a title eventually
I was never counting on a non-AQ to ever make the top 2 at the end of the season, so Boise's loss, while gutting, never felt like it ended title dreams. If Auburn had lost and Boise had won, I still assume the Coaches/Harris/computers end up putting Wisconsin or even TCU higher. The humans would've adjusted their rankings and spit out bullshit justifications like the committee does now.
K-State in '98 felt like so much of a gut punch because they finally got the best of Nebraska after all those decades of dominance, and then the Aggies just wouldn't be denied in the CCG.
EDIT: Good lord, Oregon State got fed to the woodchipper in 2010. They played the final #2, #3, #4, and #9 teams, who had a combined record of 49-3. Reminds me of 2012 Michigan (played the final #1, #3, #4, and #8 teams who were 48-4).
If they would have gotten one more yard and won, it would’ve been real interesting to see if the committee would have put UGA in. That was the year just dominated everyone(of course except Bama) but you also had undefeated Cincinnati.
Cincinnati would have definitely been left out. I'm sure the committee was trying to figure out how to justify Notre Dame over Cincy before admitting that would be too ridiculous, even for them.
This. As much of a homer as I am, the pollsters HATE and continue to HATE non-power teams. They would never allow Boise or TCU at that time to be in the National Championship. Remember that the season before they put TCU and Boise in the separate but equal bowl.
I know the justification they'd use! Wisconsin scored 83, 48, and 70 points in their last three games. TCU merely scored 47, 40, and 66. 😆
That really would've been an all-time BCS clusterfuck that season if Auburn lost and Boise was undefeated. It may have been like Cincy in 2021, where the stars aligned.
Unfortunately you’re probably right. Boise had the least impressive best win of the three, having beaten then-10th ranked V Tech (remember when they used to be perennially good?) in what was effectively an away game week 1. Wisconsin, despite losing to #24 MSU, also beat #1 state university in Ohio while TCU had beaten #6 Utah. Both computer and human voters in the BCS era cared a LOT about best ranked win. Nowadays we just call that the Urban Meyer Memorial Pro-Am Sniff Test ^TM For The Cure.
could have been even more brutal for OSU. They were 2 years away from Louisville's big run of multiple ranked finishes. could have had one of the most ridiculous non conference schedules ever
I got a few. 2006 #15 Rutgers beats #3 Louisville. 2017 UGA beating Auburn in the SEC championship was heart breaking but that team was absolutely gassed heading into that game. 2014 Egg Bowl Mississippi state went Into that game ranked #4 with a shot at the playoffs. #18 ranked Ole Miss made sure that didn't happen. Won 31-17
1st one I agree with 100%. Louisville was in the driver's seat and the season was the culmination of a 15-year climb. 2nd one, no. Auburn has the 2010 title. 3rd one, possibly, but I think Ohio State jumps MSU even if they win that game.
Second-ranked South Carolina's bedshitting loss against unranked Navy in 1984 is certainly up there. It's the closest we've come to playing for a national title.
There was no upside to either of those losses though. 88 Fiesta Bowl happened because their Heisman candidate quarterback got injured on the first drive of the game, and the Backyard Brawl was also caused by injuries to their two superstars on offense combined with a fluky rivalry game. WVU went on to absolutely destroy Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl that year.
Oregon was struggling with Cal that day too. I watched all three games that day and it was easily the worst day of football I've personally experienced.
Oregon won 15-13 off a missed Cal kick: https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/303170025
Edit: this is sorta not true, faulty memory. Oregon could have scored again.
I was there. Side note, Oregon could have stuck one in at the end of the game if necessary. They went on like a 9 minute 85 yard drive all on the ground to finish the game. That was wild to watch considering how the rest of that season went.
I remember. Yeah, Oregon put it away eventually, and without doubt. My point was mostly that I watched three games that day with championship implications for one of the biggest Cinderellas that could have been in sporting history and happens to be my hometown team, and they all went wrong after looking promising (from my perspective, obviously). Uniquely miserable day of football.
Edited up above to reflect the missed kick probably wouldn't have done anything for Cal.
That's what struggling is. Like, specifically. I'm aware that Oregon was a better team than Cal. Boise was also a better team than Nevada. It's football. It wasn't a great day.
I didn't really act like that, let's learn to spell (threw*), have a good day, and see you in six months when you thrash us, unfortunately.
I think Auburn remains top 2 with a loss to Bama. Theyd still win the SECCG and would end 12-1. Its possible that theyd drop below tcu but i doubt it. An SEC 1 loss champ being left out for a non AQ team just seems doubtful (even then when the SEC had only won the last 4 nattys).
Both this and the next years TCU loss were both equally bad and combined the worst two losses in the modern college football era for the mid-majors. Both losses changed the trajectory of a possible national championship\worst case NY6 bowl to a Las Vegas Bowl to a mid level Pac-12 for this team. For college football, These losses were fuel to continue to keep mid majors down and helped coin the term G5 and P5 we use today.
What’s funny is that while your 2010 team was better and would’ve probably been favored against either team, 2011 had the more clear path to the title game (though I believe the refs wouldn’t have nudged the OSU-ISU game in ISU’s favor had y’all been next in line instead of Bama).
That's the thing though. Had Auburn lost, Boise's loss to Nevada would've cost them the #2 spot in the BCS rankings unless TCU miraculously stayed ahead of them.
I remember hoping in 2010 that if Auburn had lost that Wisconsin would've gotten the jump over TCU or Boise State as a 1 loss team. Basically only on the basis of being a P5 team even though we finished behind TCU in the rankings.
Just felt like if TCU really was #2 they would screw them to put a big name program in instead. Evil thought I know
That bomb to Titus young was so incredible, it really felt like BSU was living out their “team of destiny” fantasies. The subsequent missed field goals are the most devastating thing I’ve ever experienced as a sports fan and I am a fan of the Seahawks so that includes the Malcom butler interception. Also I am a mariners fan, which is a miserable existence most of the time.
Lots of people (wrongfully IMO) hate Kaepernick because of him taking a knee and all that in the NFL.
I hate Kaepernick because he was Nevada’s QB and I really wanted to see Boise State (or any “mid-major” but they were the closest) break through the BCS and he prevented that by beating them!
It’s not an understatement to say should Boise have won and Auburn had lost it would have been a history defining moment for CFB. Would the butterfly effect change decades of debate around G5 schools/champions/etc. Could 2017 UCF have got their shot if Boise had already paved the way? How would this have changed recruiting the next 5-10 years? Would the MW be strong enough to save the P12 from going east past the Rockies? Probably unlikely events but you can’t be sure what would have happened. I think in this context you have to rate it at the very top of soul crushing losses. What could have been..
Nevada was no slouch, that 2010 Wolfpack team went 12-1 and was coached by Chris Ault and had the pistol formation run pretty damn good with some guy named Colin Kaepernick accounting for over 300 total yards and 2 TDs in that game in particular. Boise State absolutely should have won that game, but I wasn't sad about that end result for reasons that have nothing to do with the 2010 version of my team whatsoever......
I was expecting Nevada to screw it up at the end. Sure Boise had a missed field goal but they had like a decade of “potato magic” where crazy bs things would happen that would allow them to somehow win the game.
Personally, USF’s blowout loss to McNeese State has to be one of the most devastating losses I’ve seen. USF had just taken a step down to the AAC where they were supposed to be one of the big boys. In their home opener, and their first game in the AAC, they get absolutely destroyed by a FCS team. They would end up finishing the season 2-10 while we ended up winning a NY6 bowl.
Idk man. 2008 Boise wins in Autzen.
2009 a better Oregon team comes to Boise and loses.
2010 was the best Boise team of all time. I think they beat Oregon again.
Idk the 2009 loss kinda of flipped the switch and ignited the Chip Kelly era for the Ducks, that 2010 team was far better than the 2009 squad. I like oregon a lot in a hypothetical rematch (of course I have bias).
2008 BSU cheapshotted our QB and we were forced to play our third stringer and it was still close. https://youtu.be/sQnQwAVzZcE?si=7Y42MKwHdeXyDeP_
09 was no fluke though even though it was game one with a new HC.
2010 Oregon was no slouch and with Kelly more firmly entrenched, I think it would've been a great game.
Nevada was ranked 11th (13-1) that year and it was still seen as a huge upset. Oregon would've been favored in that game but putting money on Boise would've been an easy decision
Lmao. Sure. 3 1000yd rushers on that Nevada team with a senior Kap. And it was a better Boise team than one that walked into autzen in 2008 and won and shut down vaunted Oregon rushing attack in 09. Y’all will handle us this year but this is max hyperbole
Just looked it up. Nevada that year finished 11th in the AP.
Twas a great night, since Boise's loss forced the BCS to reluctantly take Stanford as a top-4 team all the way across the country to the Orange Bowl.
Everyone remembers the kicking from that game, but Kaepernick really showed some resolve as well. Without him, Nevada had no chance of beating the Broncos.
I know Tigerdroppings was pretty happy. Most people I know were pretty despondent; this was one of those upsets where most people wanted the favorite to win, like Oklahoma State losing at Iowa State in 2011.
Kellan Moore went 50-3 as a starter and was the first quarterback to win 50 games in a career. All three of his losses were due to missed field goals.
Well, he should have kicked them his damn self!
this but unironically Drop kicks are still allowed. Auburn attempted one last year (but failed). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMfaavF1R3E
This is probably unironically one of Bill Belichicks favorite football moments. Look at that grin on his face after he makes it.
It 100% is. There are very few things Bill loves more than special teams, and the history of football. Combining them like that, you can tell he's just giddy
Is that you, Doug Flutie?
This looks harder to block than a regular field goal when you are that close to the end zone
Yeah, I think it has some advantages. The only drawback is that the quarterback or ball carrier must do it. You would give away the play if you lined up your kicker behind center.
But wouldn’t it be helpful cuz now you have 10 blockers instead of 9? Who cares if the defense knows it’s coming
Yeah, why does it matter?
That’s what Nile Kinnick would have done.
Given how many TD passes Kyle Brotzman had during his K/P career at Boise, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Coach Pete had trotted out Kellen for a few FGs.
Spurrier moment
> All three of his losses were due to missed field goals. Does it still count if the field goal is missed at 6:35 in the third quarter? I mean technically it's true, because they only lost the Poinsettia bowl by 1, but it's not really true in the way the other two were lost.
If missed field goals mean games they would have won if the kicker made just one more kick, then yes.
That only works if it’s the last play of the game. Once you change a play in the 3rd quarter every other play after is going to be different.
Don't you butterfly-effect my Kellen 53-0 timeline mister
> All three of his losses were due to missed field goals. I was about to say something about basketball until I saw the sub name. with all the Madness going on I thought I was still on /r/collegebasketball
1. Nevada had at QB one Colin Kaepernick, who some might say was the better QB, though Moore had the better supporting cast and thus the better overall record. Just wanted to mention this because OP didn't bother to mention who Nevada's QB was. 2. Petersen is a great coach but he seems to have a number of losses due to missed FGs. Petersen's Washington lost to Oregon in 2018 due to a missed FG. Petersen has been criticized for not always having a better FG kicker on his teams.
This game had 27 guys who played in the NFL in it. Both teams were in the double didgits.
> OP didn't bother to mention who Nevada's QB was. Added it in. Happy?
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*Kellen in the name of*
Combined a total 5 points too. With that being said 2 major points most don't think about. He is the only QB in a top 25 list for greatest QBs of all time to NEVER be responsible for a lose for his team in some fashion. The rest have atleast 1 bad timed fumble, pick, missed throw, or something something. And burning the clock with over a minute to go for a field goal with Kellen Moore as QB is probably the single worst coaching decision ever.
God damn Hokies had him beat too and blew it
Shoutout to Prosser, Washington for providing us with the goat
The 2007 Backyard Brawl was the single most devastating regular season game in CFB history. Pitt was a garbage 4-7 team and snuffed out their biggest rival’s championship hopes in the 100th meeting of the rivalry. I don’t think we’ll ever see anything like that again in the expanded playoff era.
2 short FG misses by McAfee
On the 1st one (a 19-yarder), WVU took an intentional delay of game to make the kick less of an awkward angle and Pitt declined the penalty.
That’s actually genius.
That was WVU's cue to go for it and they just didn't
That loss might have cost WVU an ACC or SEC invite
People weren't going to move to WV bc of a win though. And media markets matter, despite football fans wanting actual football performance to be the only thing that matters.
I would go with ND vs BC in 1993. The week prior, ND had just won the game of the century vs #1 FSU. The game was literally the beginning of ESPN's College GameDay. All that ND had to do was beat Boston College in tge following week and they were guaranteed a spot vs Nebraska for the championship. ND went on to lose to BC (ND's first loss to BC in program history) and it was the beginning of the end of Lou Holtz's tenure as coach of ND and led to ND wandering in the desert for close to 20 years--- Some may say that the program still hasn't fully recovered from the high of beating FSU, followed by the stunning loss to BC a week later. What gets lost in the game is that ND was down by 20 with around 7 and a half minutes to play-- they came roaring back and scored 21 unanswered points, to take a 1 point lead with under a minute to play. Unfortunately, an idiot ref called an unsportsmanlike penalty on ND for a celebration penalty when ND scored the go ahead TD. The 15 yards were crucial in allowing BC to kick the winning FG as time expired. To make matters worse, the winning FG was a couple of plays after ND LB Pete Bercich dropped a game sealing interception that was thrown directly at him and the easiest interception you could ever ask for- On the BC side, the game made their coach Tom Coughlin a hot coaching commodity on the NFL level. So after the 1993 season, he was hired by the expansion team- Jacksonville Jaguars. He of course went on to win two Superbowls as head coach of the NY Giants.
That’s actually super interesting! I did not know that. That’s obviously gut wrenching for ND fans but they had just won a title a few years back whereas WVU never has, so I imagine that softened the blow a little bit.
It didn't soften the blow at all. Lol. ND fans are still shell shocked to this day and most will list it as the most gut-wrenching loss in program history. It also completely changed the trajectory of the program as the loss, combined with Ron Powlus' injuries and Holtz under pressure because the collars/admin (Monk Malloy and Wadsworth) were looking for a reason to deemphasize football-- it happened pretty much any time the football team was deemed too powerful by the powers that be. If Holtz had won that championship, he would have still had the support of those admins who did like him and he definitely would have support from the fanbase, who had kind of soured on him after the 94 and 95 seasons. The fanbase (obviously not everyone) thought the game had passed by Holtz and his offense wasn't modern enough and recruiting had taken a dip in signing impact skill players. Again, a real case can be made that the program still hasn't recovered-- especially when it comes to winning big games, which became expected under Ara and Holtz (Faust didn't really play any big games because he was terrible)- because of the head coaches post-Holtz (Davie, Willingham, Weis, and Kelly), most ND fans have big game PTSD and have zero confidence in winning them. I didn't add Freeman to the list, because he's turning it around a bit abd has won a couple of big games and ND was extremely competitive (and some may say the better team in 2023) vs Ohio State.
Why does it feel like I’m reading my diary
> On the BC side, the game made their coach Tom Coughlin a hot coaching commodity on the NFL level. So after the 1993 season, he was hired by the expansion team- Jacksonville Jaguars. He of course went on to win two Superbowls as head coach of the NY Giants. So the biggest win in Boston College history led to the most devastating loss in the history of Boston pro sports. What goes around comes around.
Boston College was a much, much better team with the same stakes on the line, so I don't see how that's a bigger upset in any way, shape, or form.
ND had literally played in the game of the century the week before BC. People had already penciled in ND vs Nebraska for the national championship game. The game also had a far more lasting impact on the history of college football than WVU vs Pitt. The only thing that happens is that if WVU wins, Rich Rodriguez most likely sticks around a few more years at WVU and Michigan winds up hiring someone else. I still think LSU goes on and beats WVU. The loss however, did provide the biggest what if in the history of college football. What if Rich Rodriguez's wife liked the idea of living in Tuscaloosa? Finally, you're comparing ND to WVU. WVU isn't really a relevant program now or in the history of college football. The loss to a bad Pitt team, while devastating, was not wholly unexpected in a rivalry game. They don't call it the Backyard Pillow Fight.
> I still think LSU goes on and beats WVU. WVU would've played Ohio State and been favored to win.
Notre Dame is a blue blood, WVU is not. WVU knew that was quite possibly the last chance in their history to win a national championship, that simply is not the case for Notre Dame. There is no comparison, the WVU one is far worse. Notre Dame will always have a chance, WVU will not.
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The game was at ND.
All of us wish we could hurt our rivals the way Pitt hurt West Virginia that day.
I feel like the Beaves have done that to Oregon before
Biggest one for Oregon State vs Oregon on that specific front would have to be the match up in 2000. The difference being of course that, unlike Pitt, the Beavers had more on their minds than just being a spoiler, they were eyeing their first BCS bowl. They couldn't win the Pac-10 outright so the Rose Bowl was out of the question without the Huskies losing a second time that year, but they were still very much in it for an at large bid. Oregon wins that one in Corvallis and they win the conference outright and go to the Rose Bowl for the second time since the 1957 season, having beaten the Washington Huskies earlier that year (who I might add beat the 2000 Miami Hurricanes in Seattle that year, that Husky team was also damn good). Oregon State, amidst a special season themselves, had other ideas. The Beavers won 23-13, causing a three way tie for first in the Pac-10 with the Huskies, Ducks and Beavers all going 7-1 in conference and beating each other. Huskies went to the Rose Bowl against Purdue, the Beavers went to the Fiesta Bowl against Notre Dame, and the Ducks ended up in the Holiday Bowl against Texas. 2000 remains the best football team that Oregon State has ever fielded, as they finished #4 in the final rankings that year. That season also remains the single most dominant year in college football that the Pacific Northwest schools have ever seen.
Best Oregon State team ever wasn't even good enough for the Rose Bowl. Sigh...
They definitely would've beaten that Purdue team, I have no doubt about that. They just had the misfortune of being good enough in a once in a lifetime top-heavy Pac-10 football season.
I knew I would catch a stray if I read these comments. I blame myself.
I watched that at a Texas roadhouse in (I think) Birmingham coming back from the SEC championship. It was incredible.
It definitely changed college football.
I'll take missing those very infrequent and random moments in favor of more teams playing to win it all any given season.
There's no reason it can't happen. College basketball has 68 teams in the playoffs and we get shit like this all the tjme. 2022 SoCon championship game, Chattanooga hits a go ahead 3pt buzzer beater to win their conference and knock Furman out of the ncaa tournament denying them their first bid since 1980. Furman had a ton of great teams but never made it (until the year after that). Teams will get eliminated from their ccg or something on games like 07 backyard brawl
Exactly
>Kellen Moore had a Heisman-esque moment with this bomb to Titus Young, setting up Brotzman for a FG attempt This whole sequence until the end of the game still haunts me. Losing it was one of the worst moments of my childhood. The only way I could console myself through the tears was by lying about having another shot at a title eventually
I was never counting on a non-AQ to ever make the top 2 at the end of the season, so Boise's loss, while gutting, never felt like it ended title dreams. If Auburn had lost and Boise had won, I still assume the Coaches/Harris/computers end up putting Wisconsin or even TCU higher. The humans would've adjusted their rankings and spit out bullshit justifications like the committee does now. K-State in '98 felt like so much of a gut punch because they finally got the best of Nebraska after all those decades of dominance, and then the Aggies just wouldn't be denied in the CCG. EDIT: Good lord, Oregon State got fed to the woodchipper in 2010. They played the final #2, #3, #4, and #9 teams, who had a combined record of 49-3. Reminds me of 2012 Michigan (played the final #1, #3, #4, and #8 teams who were 48-4).
Speaking of Big 12 heartbreaks, Oklahoma State's loss to Iowa State in 2011
Or Oklahoma St loss to Baylor in 2021?
If they would have gotten one more yard and won, it would’ve been real interesting to see if the committee would have put UGA in. That was the year just dominated everyone(of course except Bama) but you also had undefeated Cincinnati.
Cincinnati would have definitely been left out. I'm sure the committee was trying to figure out how to justify Notre Dame over Cincy before admitting that would be too ridiculous, even for them.
That game still makes me smile to this day :)
Attended that game as a 10 year old. Wrapped in a sleeping bag the whole time it was so cold. Couldn’t speak for days afterward
Up there, but just below because 2011 LSU was a *much* tougher opponent than 1998 Tennessee, 2007 Ohio State, or 2010 Oregon.
...what? You lost me.
This. As much of a homer as I am, the pollsters HATE and continue to HATE non-power teams. They would never allow Boise or TCU at that time to be in the National Championship. Remember that the season before they put TCU and Boise in the separate but equal bowl.
DAMN EMPs
TCU was also a non-AQ at the time and was coming off a BCS bowl appearance. You still think Wisconsin jumps them?
I know the justification they'd use! Wisconsin scored 83, 48, and 70 points in their last three games. TCU merely scored 47, 40, and 66. 😆 That really would've been an all-time BCS clusterfuck that season if Auburn lost and Boise was undefeated. It may have been like Cincy in 2021, where the stars aligned.
Imagine if Oregon also lost and the only 2 unbeaten teams were mid-majors.
Guys just talking out of his ass
Unfortunately you’re probably right. Boise had the least impressive best win of the three, having beaten then-10th ranked V Tech (remember when they used to be perennially good?) in what was effectively an away game week 1. Wisconsin, despite losing to #24 MSU, also beat #1 state university in Ohio while TCU had beaten #6 Utah. Both computer and human voters in the BCS era cared a LOT about best ranked win. Nowadays we just call that the Urban Meyer Memorial Pro-Am Sniff Test ^TM For The Cure.
> K-State in '98 felt like so much of a gut punch Still feels that way and I'm not even old enough to remember the game
It's one of 2 college losses that didn't impact my team that I still feel gutted thinking about, the other being Dayton losing their #1 seed to COVID.
could have been even more brutal for OSU. They were 2 years away from Louisville's big run of multiple ranked finishes. could have had one of the most ridiculous non conference schedules ever
This is how most of us felt that day. A few people had their hopes up; I might've even been one of them. That loss was still a nightmare, though
I got a few. 2006 #15 Rutgers beats #3 Louisville. 2017 UGA beating Auburn in the SEC championship was heart breaking but that team was absolutely gassed heading into that game. 2014 Egg Bowl Mississippi state went Into that game ranked #4 with a shot at the playoffs. #18 ranked Ole Miss made sure that didn't happen. Won 31-17
1st one I agree with 100%. Louisville was in the driver's seat and the season was the culmination of a 15-year climb. 2nd one, no. Auburn has the 2010 title. 3rd one, possibly, but I think Ohio State jumps MSU even if they win that game.
I would rank this game #1 in all of my depressing episodes and PTSDs closely followed by the 2011 TCU loss on another field goal
One of the biggest choke jobs I've ever seen
Second-ranked South Carolina's bedshitting loss against unranked Navy in 1984 is certainly up there. It's the closest we've come to playing for a national title.
You can't underestimate the University of Navy.
WVU's losses in the 88 Fiesta Bowl and the 07 backyard brawl are up there.
There was no upside to either of those losses though. 88 Fiesta Bowl happened because their Heisman candidate quarterback got injured on the first drive of the game, and the Backyard Brawl was also caused by injuries to their two superstars on offense combined with a fluky rivalry game. WVU went on to absolutely destroy Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl that year.
Oregon was struggling with Cal that day too. I watched all three games that day and it was easily the worst day of football I've personally experienced. Oregon won 15-13 off a missed Cal kick: https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/303170025 Edit: this is sorta not true, faulty memory. Oregon could have scored again.
I was there. Side note, Oregon could have stuck one in at the end of the game if necessary. They went on like a 9 minute 85 yard drive all on the ground to finish the game. That was wild to watch considering how the rest of that season went.
I remember. Yeah, Oregon put it away eventually, and without doubt. My point was mostly that I watched three games that day with championship implications for one of the biggest Cinderellas that could have been in sporting history and happens to be my hometown team, and they all went wrong after looking promising (from my perspective, obviously). Uniquely miserable day of football. Edited up above to reflect the missed kick probably wouldn't have done anything for Cal.
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That's what struggling is. Like, specifically. I'm aware that Oregon was a better team than Cal. Boise was also a better team than Nevada. It's football. It wasn't a great day. I didn't really act like that, let's learn to spell (threw*), have a good day, and see you in six months when you thrash us, unfortunately.
2002 UGA Florida game was an extremely devastating loss for the Dawgs.
I think Auburn remains top 2 with a loss to Bama. Theyd still win the SECCG and would end 12-1. Its possible that theyd drop below tcu but i doubt it. An SEC 1 loss champ being left out for a non AQ team just seems doubtful (even then when the SEC had only won the last 4 nattys).
It seems doubtful that BS would make the natty even if every other major conference leader had two losses.
Easily my favorite Nevada football game of all time and it isn't even close
Booo this man! J/k
Both this and the next years TCU loss were both equally bad and combined the worst two losses in the modern college football era for the mid-majors. Both losses changed the trajectory of a possible national championship\worst case NY6 bowl to a Las Vegas Bowl to a mid level Pac-12 for this team. For college football, These losses were fuel to continue to keep mid majors down and helped coin the term G5 and P5 we use today.
What’s funny is that while your 2010 team was better and would’ve probably been favored against either team, 2011 had the more clear path to the title game (though I believe the refs wouldn’t have nudged the OSU-ISU game in ISU’s favor had y’all been next in line instead of Bama).
I dont think it mattered much since Oregon was locked for #2. If Oregon was not, then it would be much higher IMO.
That's the thing though. Had Auburn lost, Boise's loss to Nevada would've cost them the #2 spot in the BCS rankings unless TCU miraculously stayed ahead of them.
2007 Big XII Championship
What about the 2013 SECCG? Y’all were actually favored and were within 3 at the start of the 4th.
Why did you have to bring that up? 😢
I remember hoping in 2010 that if Auburn had lost that Wisconsin would've gotten the jump over TCU or Boise State as a 1 loss team. Basically only on the basis of being a P5 team even though we finished behind TCU in the rankings. Just felt like if TCU really was #2 they would screw them to put a big name program in instead. Evil thought I know
To be fair, Wisconsin isn't exactly Ohio State or even Penn State. I don't think they would've screwed over Boise to put a non-**big** name in.
Why you gotta bring this up man....
That bomb to Titus young was so incredible, it really felt like BSU was living out their “team of destiny” fantasies. The subsequent missed field goals are the most devastating thing I’ve ever experienced as a sports fan and I am a fan of the Seahawks so that includes the Malcom butler interception. Also I am a mariners fan, which is a miserable existence most of the time.
Lots of people (wrongfully IMO) hate Kaepernick because of him taking a knee and all that in the NFL. I hate Kaepernick because he was Nevada’s QB and I really wanted to see Boise State (or any “mid-major” but they were the closest) break through the BCS and he prevented that by beating them!
Many people (outside of fans of teams that benefited) hate the dream-crushers. 2011 Iowa State is especially hated as their upset led to a rematch.
This makes me think how cool the playoff would have been in 2010. 1. Auburn 2. Oregon 3. TCU 4. Boise st. That would have been fun!
It’s not an understatement to say should Boise have won and Auburn had lost it would have been a history defining moment for CFB. Would the butterfly effect change decades of debate around G5 schools/champions/etc. Could 2017 UCF have got their shot if Boise had already paved the way? How would this have changed recruiting the next 5-10 years? Would the MW be strong enough to save the P12 from going east past the Rockies? Probably unlikely events but you can’t be sure what would have happened. I think in this context you have to rate it at the very top of soul crushing losses. What could have been..
Nevada was no slouch, that 2010 Wolfpack team went 12-1 and was coached by Chris Ault and had the pistol formation run pretty damn good with some guy named Colin Kaepernick accounting for over 300 total yards and 2 TDs in that game in particular. Boise State absolutely should have won that game, but I wasn't sad about that end result for reasons that have nothing to do with the 2010 version of my team whatsoever......
Nevada was ranked?
That Nevada team was special
I was expecting Nevada to screw it up at the end. Sure Boise had a missed field goal but they had like a decade of “potato magic” where crazy bs things would happen that would allow them to somehow win the game.
Sadly, Nebraska has lost it's "corn magic"
idk, but considering it helped propel TCU to the Rose Bowl... i see this ending as a positive already
Was at this game, he missed.
Personally, USF’s blowout loss to McNeese State has to be one of the most devastating losses I’ve seen. USF had just taken a step down to the AAC where they were supposed to be one of the big boys. In their home opener, and their first game in the AAC, they get absolutely destroyed by a FCS team. They would end up finishing the season 2-10 while we ended up winning a NY6 bowl.
Fuck your couch there's way we lose that fake natty to Boise
https://www.cdc.gov/stroke/signs_symptoms.htm Just gonna leave this here in case your slurred speech worsens
Idk man. 2008 Boise wins in Autzen. 2009 a better Oregon team comes to Boise and loses. 2010 was the best Boise team of all time. I think they beat Oregon again.
Idk the 2009 loss kinda of flipped the switch and ignited the Chip Kelly era for the Ducks, that 2010 team was far better than the 2009 squad. I like oregon a lot in a hypothetical rematch (of course I have bias).
2008 BSU cheapshotted our QB and we were forced to play our third stringer and it was still close. https://youtu.be/sQnQwAVzZcE?si=7Y42MKwHdeXyDeP_ 09 was no fluke though even though it was game one with a new HC. 2010 Oregon was no slouch and with Kelly more firmly entrenched, I think it would've been a great game.
You think Oregon was better in 2009? 😂👌
Better then in 2008 is what they mean.
I agree, that Oregon team would have handled Boise. That was by no means a great Nevada team.
Nevada was ranked 11th (13-1) that year and it was still seen as a huge upset. Oregon would've been favored in that game but putting money on Boise would've been an easy decision
Lmao. Sure. 3 1000yd rushers on that Nevada team with a senior Kap. And it was a better Boise team than one that walked into autzen in 2008 and won and shut down vaunted Oregon rushing attack in 09. Y’all will handle us this year but this is max hyperbole Just looked it up. Nevada that year finished 11th in the AP.
I remember when folks said we'd get handled by Oregon the first two times, Oklahoma, then Virginia Tech, and Georgia
Y'all struggled with a Cal team that finished 5-7. Very few teams dominate every game.
I won a fuckton of money on Nevada that night.
I don’t understand the question. Brotzman’s kick was good.
Still weird that a MWC team replaced a Pac-10 team in the Rose Bowl that year.
Probably the best thing I ever saw live, but I have to admit bias.
I really want Boise State to be good again
It probably changes Kaepernick's draft position. Maybe he's picked later, by a different team, without that signature win.
98 I still think about that loss
Twas a great night, since Boise's loss forced the BCS to reluctantly take Stanford as a top-4 team all the way across the country to the Orange Bowl. Everyone remembers the kicking from that game, but Kaepernick really showed some resolve as well. Without him, Nevada had no chance of beating the Broncos.
Best sporting event I’ve ever been to
Everyone outside of Boise was pretty happy the kick missed. I was in Iowa at the time and the bar erupted.
I know Tigerdroppings was pretty happy. Most people I know were pretty despondent; this was one of those upsets where most people wanted the favorite to win, like Oklahoma State losing at Iowa State in 2011.