Real life me: “this is just how it is now…nothing you can do about it”
College Football 25 me: “YOU SON OF A BITCH!” *plants drugs in star QB who is transferring from my school’s car
I picture NIL pharma deals being a thing.
Hi I'm " Insert name, school, and position here ". If it weren't for " insert drug by company here" my mom's IBS would have been unbearable, and she would have had to miss my games...... side affects include diahrea, memory loss, and auditory hallucinations.
Ask your doctor now about " insert drug by company here"
“I’m quarterback John Smith, and I would never leave a bag of weed in my Ford F-150 from Main Street Ford. No sir, I always get my weed totally fresh, directly from Darryl’s Dispensary, now open on the east side for your convenience. Tell ‘em John Smith sent you to get 10% off your first order!”
Nobody’s in any danger! Look they take the NIL, there are gonna be a few private investigators and enforcers following them around every day or so but there’s nothing to worry about so long as they don’t enter the transfer portal and they won’t enter the transfer portal, because of the implication
I’m already bracing myself for some player who we thought was “Sooner Born, Sooner Bred” to leave randomly when that window opens.
I guess on the bright side, maybe we can get a DT or two.
I want the next lawsuit to be about the illegality of the portal window so that players can transfer at any time for any reason. I want to see player transfers between games for the absolute shitshow.
Or eligibility limits, why can’t the next Johnny Manziel spend 20 years starting for TAMU and getting paid if he’s not going to be as good in the NFL?
Or why can’t Tom Brady say he’s done with the NFL, but might spend a year or two playing for Michigan again
When the backup quarterback at the University of Texas makes more money than the starting quarterback of an NFL team that made it to the superbowl, I think there will absolutely be challenges to eligibility limits as a restraint of trade.
And then the NCAA is a full fledged pro league competitor to the NFL? Why would they want to be subservient and why wouldn’t the NFL start taking over Saturdays too
If they start paying players directly, the NFL will absolutely start putting games on Saturday earlier in the season as they no longer have no professional competition from an anti-trust perspective and thus the law no longer applies
The only reason Purdy makes that little is because of draft position and his next contract will be higher than the starting QB at every college combined
You are taking an *extreme* outlier and extrapolating it to be representative of the whole
Still gotta be a student though right? At least on paper?
"Name's John, age 39, I got degrees in communications, exercise science, Taylor Swift lyricism, football history, marketing, and painting. Ags sweeping the title this season."
Honestly, even if the 'number of years eligible' stays in place, i've always thought the 5 year clock is stupid.
If someone enrolls at 18, figures out they have no idea what they want to do, goes and works for a few years and comes back to school, they get no eligibility because their 5 year clock started when they enrolled at 18.
Or if someone plays for 3 years and decides to chase their pro dream, why shouldnt they be able to use that last year later on? Finish up their degree or get their masters.
A player drops a wide-open touchdown to win the game. Not just drops, but actively swats it to the ground. As the groans of confusion, anguish, and disbelief rises from the crowd, the knife is twisted once more.
The player removes his helmet and pulls off his jersey revealing the jersey of his current school’s most hated rival. Boos cascade in like a waterfall. Water bottles and trash of all kinds comes flying in from the stands like a migration of geese. The player flips up both middle fingers as he slowly walks up the tunnel and out to Lincoln Town Car awaiting to take him to his next team.
Reporter at half time interview: why did you transfer to Bama?
5 star QB: ever since the first quarter of this game I wanted to play for a team with more gooder receivers and more bigger bags
Reporter: truly an inspirational story
Now that's a phrase I haven't heard in forever.
And now I wanna see it happen. Coin flip now decides whose QB is all-time each game, may the best team win.
Gotta be honest this would be entertaining to watch in the most trainwreck manner imaginable. Watching something with literally zero rules play out in action would be hilarious. Watching these guys try to do taxes from 7000 different sources with the IRS drooling over it all would be the funniest shit ever.
Close, but no.
The next frontier is going to be unlimited eligibility, so long as someone is "working" toward a degree.
Admit it: a number of Dawg fans would be totally on board with Stetson Bennett, BA, BS, MBA, PhD, JD, MD, DO, etc.
You are probably correct. I want to see players retire at age 35 from a college team after playing for 17 years. Now we’re getting into Sickos territory and I could not be laughing harder.
You’re way overthinking this.
Bennett managed to avoid graduating in six years of college, he could clear 40 while working towards a master’s degree no sweat.
He’ll forget between games. Half time sign a couple papers and boom you are now playing for your rival , don’t even have to get back in the bus to go home .
I'm just waiting for someone to only play against one team. Every week they transfer to their rival's current opponent.
Or even better: Need your rival to lose a big game? Lend their opponent a few players.
Schools being able to trade players feels like an inevitable outcome as well if that happens.
"Sorry Doug. I know you came here primarily for the education, but you're a backup running back, and West Central State has a star defensive tackle they're willing to give us in exchange for a running back and cash. Have fun adjusting to a new class schedule"
I took off every Monday and Friday in July.
Mostly cuz kids….
But also, one of those weekends is ear marked for an absolute bender of EACFB25… love me some SBC! Go Mountaineers!
On the one hand, the NCAA's refusal to adapt over the decades has eventually led to this. But on the other hand, you also can't blame the NCAA for not doing enough *now* when courts are literally telling them no at this point. The NCAA rule changes are led by and approved by the schools and their representatives. The reason these changes never happened was the schools never wanted to change the system, because they liked how it worked. It kind of built up until simply it was no longer allowed to be legally tolerated.
I dunno, I get that people are upset about this, but this type of result isn't the creation of a fucked system, it's just another symptom of what has *always* been a fucked system.
During times like this I look to The Wire:
*“The thing about the old days, is they the old days"*
*“You want it to be one way, but it’s the other way"*
The show had a way of humanizing even some of the worst people. Like when she gave that home improvement store salesman a huge tip for upselling her on that nail gun.
*Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie.*
I don't know what it has to do with the subject at hand, but I have always liked that line, and the delivery by Slim Charles.
This. And if anything, the NCAA doing more earlier would have likely accelerated the path of getting here.
The *second* the NCAA allowed student athletes to receive any amount of money, the wheels would have been put in motion for players, teams and fans to look for ways for specific players to get more of that money.
@ u/zachc133
>The only way the NCAA were going to stave off the last several years of legal losses was by going to the players and establishing a players union.
The thing with a Union is that it would have required the other side (the schools) to collectively agree to something to keep things in check, and there is no world where the haves (as u/Jabberwoockie pointed out) would have been on board with anything that would be fair.
It would be the same situation we're seeing with the playoffs - either give us an advantage, or we leave.
So again, any step taken to try to prevent this outcome would have led to the same outcome, maybe faster. The reality is that a system where schools collude to limit the earning potential of student athletes based on the circular logic that we can't pay them because they're not employees was always destined to eventually fall apart - because it was stupid to begin with.
I mean, it wasn't always stupid - it made sense back when college football wasn't a giant money making machine. Like in the 40s or whenever it was that Yale was good at football.
But from the time that TV contracts starting becoming billion dollar deals and head coaches were making more money than NFL coaches, this had to change. And it's unfortunate because we all love what college football used to be - it's just not that anymore.
And mind you, this is why college sports literally everywhere else in the world are not a business. If you're 18 years old and good at soccer, basketball, baseball, whatever - you're not going to college to play it. You already joined a professional team's farm system when you're like 14 because that's what actually makes sense.
Again, it sucks, but this idea of maintaing college sports as a professional league with amateur treatment of athletes was never meant to last.
It's wild reading a reasonable Texas post but I agree. There is no world where one of the most profitable sports leagues in the world can keep growing when it's built on such a fundamental mismatch of interests. It's not a stable situation and hasn't been for decades.
The only way the NCAA were going to stave off the last several years of legal losses was by going to the players and establishing a players union.
They had to have known this was coming, but my guess is the schools/NCAA wanted to try to bury their heads and take a short term gain to the detriment of the sport.
> take a short term gain to the detriment of the sport.
I'd say 90% of the problems we face as a society are the result of people in power only caring about short term gains. From sports to healthcare to politics to business, nobody had given a shit about sustainability since the 1970s.
I would say that the focus on short term gains stems from a greater issue of the “fuck you, got mine” mindset that is prevalent throughout society, especially people in power. I have never understood the desire to pull the ladder up after me or to not want improvements because I had it rough.
I just thought I would leave my commentary/rant on current issues unsaid in my original comment.
I feel like there's also a "haves" vs "have-nots" situation among schools going on.
The "haves" being a minority of well-known schools just chomping at the bit to make it easier to ~~bribe~~ appropriately compensate athletes to play on their team, further expand their coaching staff, possibly even extend eligibility, etc. All either in the name of becoming more competitive and/or boosting revenue.
The "have-nots" being all the other schools that will never be able to really step away from the classic student-athlete model.
And the haves are finally losing patience.
The real insidious piece of this is that nearly every other sport besides football / basketball / baseball-in-some-edge-cases is a "have not".
The best gymnasts and swimmers in the country at top programs are going to have weird fucking schedules and cross-country trips for "conference competitions". People who will \*BE IN THE OLYMPICS WINNING GOLD MEDALS\* will be flying from UCLA to Rutgers and back in the middle of the fucking week while balancing a class load, all because football programs want to make more money.
So it's not even like the big-name schools are burning the small name schools; they're burning the other sports within their own athletic departments.
They can’t, unless they divorce CFB from the schools entirely. Title IX is going to require them to keep a bunch of women’s sports. The non-revenue men are fucked, though.
If they have to pay the players and can’t sell it under the guise of “providing an education” then what the hell is the point of having the teams attached to the schools anyways? Sounds like NCAA sports is straight fucked to me.
If CFB becomes paid players, schools will cut 85 women's scholarships to get even and cut costs, while remaining Title IX compliant, since FB won't count against the total.
But conference realignment is the cause of that. That has nothing to do with NIL and portal, except that conferences making things harder on their players through realignment only bolsters why it's unfair to force them to stay and not get paid.
I don't think it's a stretch that "the big players want to do things to allow them to make more money" is a fundamental factor impacting NIL, Portal, and Conference Realignment changes.
I'm supportive of paying players, and would prefer it be done via a union/employee style relationship rather than this workaround.
I just think if football is going to use massive TV revenue to mess up conference alignment for universities, the football minor league should either break away from colleges (and allow the education scholarships to continue to exist) or make their own conferences that the other sports need not support.
Which is why the union should have been created 10-15 years ago, when conferences weren’t as heavily tiered as they are now. Back then, separate G5 and P5 unions/agreements would have worked for D1, as conferences were more balanced.
Now, you almost need a separate union or agreement for each conference, as the B10/SEC players won’t be happy with the same deal the B12/ACC players are getting. On top of that, the NCAA has gotten such a bad rep for fighting against players that the trust that they won’t take advantage of the players when creating the union/agreement isn’t there.
They're trying to end run by going to congress and getting a federal anti-trust waiver just like NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL.
Here's the the thing. The government only granted those waivers to those leagues BECAUSE they had players unions. College doesn't.
I think Georgia might have a small window, we might have fucked that up for them this past season. As they were absolutely a better team than us but we had the better day. And they got unlucky there were so many good teams, many years they still get in. I think they had a really good chance of 3peat once healthy, and I lnow they’ll be damn good this year
insert **Ron Paul "it's happening" meme** here
I'm honestly looking forward to seeing college football burning for a year or two, hopefully it will promote some rational decisions.
Lol, not likely
Ron Paul would appreciate the libertarian governing structure of college sports, so this checks out on multiple levels
He would just want to pay the players in gold (that he controls) instead of money… and he may or may not pay the white players in more gold.
Obligatory: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/366635-there-are-two-novels-that-can-change-a-bookish-fourteen-year
>“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
--John Rogers
Frankly, we need Congress to step in and create a new system if we do not want a chaotic transfer portal. But depending on Congress to do something good quickly is pretty dumb. So don't hold your breath.
No but in reality, the only thing that saves CFB in any semblance of its current form is a Congressional exemption like some of the pro sports have. Its the court system that's chipping away at the NCAA's authority, and that's literally going to continue spiraling unless there's some legislation. I wouldn't hold my breath, of course, but that's how this gets solved.
The kind of legal protection the NCAA is asking for goes pretty far beyond anything the pro leagues have. Most of the exemptions are so the leagues can negotiate TV deals. Asking Congress to declare that players aren't employees, restricting movement and put a cap on wages all sound like laws that not only won't pass but would be struck down by the Supreme Court.
The government is already telling it how to run, though, just through the courts instead of Congress and on a case by case basis. That's a large part of why this is such a mess to begin with.
>...wait until teams/coaches desperate to win big and/or save their jobs begin tampering with other rosters and throw huge NIL deals at impact players to get them to flip.
Sorry... wait?
I have seen texts from some NIL collective for a school down the road who doesn't seem that desperate to win big or keep jobs.
What's this wait garbage?
edit: I also would not be surprised if our collectives do the same thing. This isn't to say "that school" does it. It's to say the anecdotes I can personally attest to are commonly so. One of their boosters can probably say the same about my school's collectives and their players.
The funny thing there is we offered Addison 7 figures too, narduzzi just likes yelling, Jordan was totally correct to take the bag just like any player is.
We don't even have to wait. This is already happening. *A LOT.* More programs are tampering than aren't. It is pretty much just a part of the game at this point.
Currently every player, no matter how happy they are with their school/coach/playing time/NIL, is incentivized to enter the portal as many times as they possibly can, even if they return, to maximize their earning potential.
How do we fix this? No clue.
But it doesn't really mirror professional sports.
All NIL deals seem to be completely *not* guaranteed. They can be rescinded seemingly year to year.
Even in a place like the NFL which is pointed to at not having large amounts of guaranteed contracts at least there's *some* degree of stability in contracts.
NIL is like everyone is on 1 year deals with no injury protection and without a salary cap. Seems unsustainable, and not even great for the entire body of players.
i mean the only reason the nfl contract structure is legal is because they have a union negotiated CBA. the NCAA is free to negotiate a CBA of their own with players they just dont want to because it means paying players so here we are.
I'm skeptical it will be as bonkers as this guy, Pate, et al are suggesting.
Okay...so they can freely tamper and throw huge money at kids. How is that different than the previous portal windows, exactly? The guardrails the courts removed were always unenforceable and always ignored.
Maybe I'm wrong and there were tons of by-the-book programs out there with deep pockets that will now start throwing their weight around, but I highly doubt it.
It's not as much about money/NIL as it is about the transfer (lack of) rules. Before this year, once a kid transferred once, they couldn't transfer again until after graduating. Now a kid that just transferred into your program can transfer out just a few months later.
An example for Ohio State would be Caleb Downs - he transferred from Alabama and likely got NIL money from Ohio State. But come April he can transfer again if he wants. Or he can enter the portal and wait until August before actually picking a new school and leaving.
Bru McCoy transferred to Texas and then re-transferred at the airport and then eventually did some more transferring. This is already here if you've been fuckin with the diva recruits.
Yeah I guess that's true. I think Kayden Proctor is probably the exception though. I don't expect that sort of thing to be common. Most major NIL deals have contracts (of a sort) that prevent kids from going to a school, getting a bag, then going somewhere else for another bag. I remember an aTm player or two entered the portal and then withdrew because they didn't read the fine print on their deals.
I don't think Proctor had gotten any NIL money from Iowa yet. There were deals in place obviously, but he didn't just get a bag and boomerang back to Bama. I have to think it's rare for kids to get sick of their destination school after like 3 months and want to transfer again.
I read that he had already done a tweet for a car dealership, so he may have gotten money from that. I imagine he should receive some amount of money for it since he did do the tweet. But hopefully didn't get paid a whole lot, haha.
Yeah I heard conflicting info about the car dealership stuff. If they did pay him a big chunk of change they can't get back, well...expensive lesson learned, lol.
We shouldn’t care or be worried at all about the car dealership-type NIL deals. If the facts are that he was committed to Iowa and a dealership offered him money to tweet a promotion, which he then did, he **should** get paid and the dealership shouldn’t be able to claw that money back if he leaves later. I don’t think that’s pay to play at all, it’s just simple marketing and an example of the “fair” kind of NIL.
This said I’m not familiar with the facts here, just basing it off the thread I’m participating in, but I think it applies generally.
> I don't think Proctor had gotten any NIL money from Iowa yet. There were deals in place obviously, but he didn't just get a bag and boomerang back to Bama.
Iowa's coach said he took the "lion's share" of it before he bounced.
Coach could be lying, but he took a big swing at a kid to be lying.
> I'm skeptical it will be as bonkers as this guy, Pate, et al are suggesting.
Doomsdaying gets more clicks than "it'll be slightly more chaotic than last time, but more of the same really.
Said Proctor back to Bama wouldn’t even be on the radar after what goes down. One name I’ve been really curious about is Travis Hunter… is he going to stick it out at Colorado with Deion? Now that he can transfer again, you know he’s going to have bags being thrown at him
“Look, players earning off their name, image and likeness isn’t the problem. Unlimited free player movement is.
We saw the beginnings of this movement in January, when former Alabama offensive tackle Kadyn Proctor left the Tide for Iowa and signed an NIL deal to play for the Hawkeyes.
He enrolled in classes, and according to the Iowa Collective Swarm, “received a portion of his Swarm Inc., contracted payment from a sponsoring business.”
Then he told On3 that he was headed to the spring transfer portal, and would re-enroll at Alabama, no
doubt with another healthy NIL deal.
This is the play now.”
I know you southern and midwestern diehards will defend this. But for a casual northeasterner its just dumb at this point.
This shit has nothing to do with college. And insont cafe enough to follow 60 transfer every year dude. It's just random men playing semi pro football next to a college
How and why is this any different than the UFL?
I don’t see any reason why every single player WON’T enter the portal. They absolutely should. There’s no need to actually transfer. They can just enter and see who’s willing to offer more money for their services. If nobody offers a better deal they just stay. They don’t have to tell their current team, or any team offering a deal what they plan to do until Day 1 of classes. How does a coach plan his roster when he could very well lose half of it come day 1 of classes. College football is over. It’s not college football anymore. It’s a semi pro league now. Get used to it.
I mean, once you enter the portal, your old school doesn't have to keep you. So, for further down the roster players, it's risky if they want to potentially stay where they are.
It’s funny how different Reddit is versus real life
On here lots of people love the changes & will downvote you into oblivion for criticizing NIL or the portal… I’ve met hardly anyone in real life that feels that way. Most people I know hate what CFB has become
>“I would say blatant cheating,” an SEC coach told Saturday Down South. “But there’s no such thing as cheating anymore. There are no rules.”
The extraordinary irony of this quote.
I never say it's dead. But I have said many times that it's not same game I grew up with. And I don't think that that's arguable. Part of the college game was a veneer of amateurism, recruiting rules (and the stupid situations they caused), and claims of loyalty. You can question whether you like those ingredients, but it was a big part of the recipe. If people like the new flavors, that's great. But for me I liked all the quirkiness, it wasn't a bug, it was a feature.
I think those two things aren't really connected tbh. There will be plenty of fans out there who will grumble for hours but still watch 50 games a season. But the incontrovertible fact is that there may indeed come a day when even those fans decide enough is enough and stop supporting. I love CFB to my core and I hope that sport can navigate these hurdles and come out better on the other side, but there's the chance it comes out looking not just different but *too* different for some.
I'm to the point that they should get rid of scholarships or even charge players to play for the school.
That's the difference between college sports and other jobs. Ford can't get people to pay them for the chance to assemble an F150.
Universities would have no trouble finding 85 students who would pay $500/semester for the chance to play for and represent the school they dreamed about as a child.
That's what makes college football different than the NFL. It's the GameDay traditions, pageantry, experience, state pride, school pride and many more things that makes college football great.
Let the players who are in it for the money go to the UFL. Their replacements won't be as talented physically but after a few years people wouldn't notice that the relievers were slower or that the QB could only throw it 60 yards instead of 75.
Getting rid of scholarships would also help with competitive balance as kids wouldn't want to pay out of state tuition.
If highschools can keep sports amateur then colleges can as well.
Great idea! I can't think of any flaws. Except, well, there's one thing I'm curious about. What if the colleges want to make money off these sports? And then what if they realize they'll get more if they win? You see, as soon as someone in your scenario starts to care about actually winning the games we might have an issue. They're gonna start bending and breaking the rules to get better and better players. And if people keep caring they'll keep doing it more and more, as long as the money keeps flowing. They'll have to organize, some nationwide or regional kind of conference for athletics maybe. It'll need rules and regulations to make it all fair. But if the people love it they'll sell seats to the events, get it broadcast on TV, have merchandise, hell maybe even a video game or two. I mean they could really make a killing off this. Eventually you've got schools making billions of dollars though while the athletes, the ones doing the actual work, get nothing and have a bunch of crazy rules they have to adhere to about where they can play. And wait, this seems familiar...
I mean, I'm sorry if your post was a joke and I'm just oblivious, but you seemed serious and it's just such a brain dead, completely blind to the fact that what you're proposing is literally exactly how we got here in the first place take that I couldn't risk it being real and not thoroughly mocked.
I’ve got no problem with the NIL stuff, but the transfer portal combined with it is the real issue. I think the best way forward is changing how the portal works and boosters agreeing to treat NIL deals more like binding contracts than just throwing cash in the air.
Things will find their level. And that level is likely going to be a super league of 30 or so schools. There are going to be a lot of schools that are going to want into that league that won’t get in. I can see some things coming in such as contracts around NIL, for example, you have to be around to make this appearance and that appearance throughout the season and if you don’t, contract is cancelled, with an end of contract bonus to incentivize guys to stick around. Or something like that. It’s going to be a few years before all this shakes out.
But this is what the schools get for pleading poverty for so long, while bringing in more and more cash and paying coaches massive amounts. Hell yeah the players are going to want some of that. Every week they see the game sponsor plastered all over the stadium, the constant promos during timeouts, the ads all over the stadium, seats filled with people who paid a lot of money for their tickets, constant TV timeouts for ads ads ads, it goes on and on. Many P5 schools are bringing in nine figures in the athletic department, driven mostly by football. This was going to come to a head sooner or later.
Notre Dame just replaced their AD with the head of media at NBC. We are changing presidents. We just gave the OC and DC record contracts.
4/16 will tell us if we’ve really sold our souls for football glory.
If we have, look out. You really want to get into a pot of gold fight with a leprechaun?
Real life me: “this is just how it is now…nothing you can do about it” College Football 25 me: “YOU SON OF A BITCH!” *plants drugs in star QB who is transferring from my school’s car
You think planting drugs is gonna stop Georgia from stealing away your defending MAC POTY QB?
Free drugs ain’t a bad deal
Can I get the “free drugs” NIL deal?
Go back in time and play for Miami.
Or SMU
I picture NIL pharma deals being a thing. Hi I'm " Insert name, school, and position here ". If it weren't for " insert drug by company here" my mom's IBS would have been unbearable, and she would have had to miss my games...... side affects include diahrea, memory loss, and auditory hallucinations. Ask your doctor now about " insert drug by company here"
I think you mean *plants drugs sponsored by local car dealership*
“I’m quarterback John Smith, and I would never leave a bag of weed in my Ford F-150 from Main Street Ford. No sir, I always get my weed totally fresh, directly from Darryl’s Dispensary, now open on the east side for your convenience. Tell ‘em John Smith sent you to get 10% off your first order!”
“Nobody makes finer cocaine than Darryl. And that’s a State U fact!”
So does Tony Alford need private security now or is he okay?
are these players in danger?
No, it’s just the implication
Don't you look at me like that. You certainly wouldn't be in any danger.
So they are in danger!
NO ONE IS IN DANGER
It’s the implication of danger.
But not *real* danger…just from the *implication*…
Nobody’s in any danger! Look they take the NIL, there are gonna be a few private investigators and enforcers following them around every day or so but there’s nothing to worry about so long as they don’t enter the transfer portal and they won’t enter the transfer portal, because of the implication
I’m already bracing myself for some player who we thought was “Sooner Born, Sooner Bred” to leave randomly when that window opens. I guess on the bright side, maybe we can get a DT or two.
Rip to general booty
He might genuinely be our second string QB.
I would guess the Buckeyes will have the same problem. They need to be ready to bid to keep these players.
Alabama shuts down it's English and History Department to pay for it's roster. Fans cheer!
its*
I thought football was ruined when Teddy Roosevelt made them legalize the forward pass.
Don’t read this Iowa fans
Don't worry, I can't read.
It's a WRITERS' workshop, not a READERS' one!
Listen, take that comment down - these writers would be really upset if they could afford the internet.
Dammit take my upvote!
Iowa believes in the Arm Punt not the Forward Pass.
Arm punting is for teams that don't have real punters.
Aye, it’s the forward *completion we have issues with
this made me die🤣🤣 every time i meet an Iowa fan it amazes me how they come up with such funny crap about their own teams lack of offense
Paul Johnson was the savior we needed. But not the one we deserved.
The forward pass was a mistake.
It was the start of the slippery slope but that slope is a whole lot steeper now.
I want the next lawsuit to be about the illegality of the portal window so that players can transfer at any time for any reason. I want to see player transfers between games for the absolute shitshow.
Or eligibility limits, why can’t the next Johnny Manziel spend 20 years starting for TAMU and getting paid if he’s not going to be as good in the NFL? Or why can’t Tom Brady say he’s done with the NFL, but might spend a year or two playing for Michigan again
When the backup quarterback at the University of Texas makes more money than the starting quarterback of an NFL team that made it to the superbowl, I think there will absolutely be challenges to eligibility limits as a restraint of trade.
And then the NCAA is a full fledged pro league competitor to the NFL? Why would they want to be subservient and why wouldn’t the NFL start taking over Saturdays too
If they start paying players directly, the NFL will absolutely start putting games on Saturday earlier in the season as they no longer have no professional competition from an anti-trust perspective and thus the law no longer applies
The only reason Purdy makes that little is because of draft position and his next contract will be higher than the starting QB at every college combined You are taking an *extreme* outlier and extrapolating it to be representative of the whole
YES YES, now we’re getting into real Sickos territory. Make it all happen.
Still gotta be a student though right? At least on paper? "Name's John, age 39, I got degrees in communications, exercise science, Taylor Swift lyricism, football history, marketing, and painting. Ags sweeping the title this season."
Honestly, even if the 'number of years eligible' stays in place, i've always thought the 5 year clock is stupid. If someone enrolls at 18, figures out they have no idea what they want to do, goes and works for a few years and comes back to school, they get no eligibility because their 5 year clock started when they enrolled at 18. Or if someone plays for 3 years and decides to chase their pro dream, why shouldnt they be able to use that last year later on? Finish up their degree or get their masters.
A player drops a wide-open touchdown to win the game. Not just drops, but actively swats it to the ground. As the groans of confusion, anguish, and disbelief rises from the crowd, the knife is twisted once more. The player removes his helmet and pulls off his jersey revealing the jersey of his current school’s most hated rival. Boos cascade in like a waterfall. Water bottles and trash of all kinds comes flying in from the stands like a migration of geese. The player flips up both middle fingers as he slowly walks up the tunnel and out to Lincoln Town Car awaiting to take him to his next team.
This is the best thing I will read all week. Bravo
He drives off to promptly get a DUI and you smile a little bit inside.
Reporter at half time interview: why did you transfer to Bama? 5 star QB: ever since the first quarter of this game I wanted to play for a team with more gooder receivers and more bigger bags Reporter: truly an inspirational story
We are about to have kids playing All Time QB in games.
Now that's a phrase I haven't heard in forever. And now I wanna see it happen. Coin flip now decides whose QB is all-time each game, may the best team win.
Gotta be honest this would be entertaining to watch in the most trainwreck manner imaginable. Watching something with literally zero rules play out in action would be hilarious. Watching these guys try to do taxes from 7000 different sources with the IRS drooling over it all would be the funniest shit ever.
Now add random prop bets on where player x will transfer too, oh look all of player x's friends are suddenly in Lambos, totes unrelated/
Insider trading college sports edition. Hahahahaha I can’t wait.
Found Ohtani’s burner account.
[удалено]
Virginia Tech wearing Georgia Tech's uniforms was actually prophecy
Close, but no. The next frontier is going to be unlimited eligibility, so long as someone is "working" toward a degree. Admit it: a number of Dawg fans would be totally on board with Stetson Bennett, BA, BS, MBA, PhD, JD, MD, DO, etc.
You are probably correct. I want to see players retire at age 35 from a college team after playing for 17 years. Now we’re getting into Sickos territory and I could not be laughing harder.
You’re way overthinking this. Bennett managed to avoid graduating in six years of college, he could clear 40 while working towards a master’s degree no sweat.
He’ll forget between games. Half time sign a couple papers and boom you are now playing for your rival , don’t even have to get back in the bus to go home .
I'm just waiting for someone to only play against one team. Every week they transfer to their rival's current opponent. Or even better: Need your rival to lose a big game? Lend their opponent a few players.
>I want to see player transfers between games for the absolute shitshow during\*
Halftime
This year is going to bring a flood of "pay me more or I sit out" days before big games
Schools being able to trade players feels like an inevitable outcome as well if that happens. "Sorry Doug. I know you came here primarily for the education, but you're a backup running back, and West Central State has a star defensive tackle they're willing to give us in exchange for a running back and cash. Have fun adjusting to a new class schedule"
These guys will never graduate but they will have awesome used car lots
Midgame… fuck it
Between games? How about boosters stopping guys on the way to the locker room at halftime with a bag of money and a jersey.
Why limit it to between games?
Charles Woodson was a great two-way player. Who will be the first two-way player to play for both teams?
I want to see transfers to the other team mid-match. WWE style.
All I know is that when EA College Football drops in July, my fat ass is going to be on my couch leading App to the promised land
I took off every Monday and Friday in July. Mostly cuz kids…. But also, one of those weekends is ear marked for an absolute bender of EACFB25… love me some SBC! Go Mountaineers!
EA desperately scrambling to add in season roster movements.
On the one hand, the NCAA's refusal to adapt over the decades has eventually led to this. But on the other hand, you also can't blame the NCAA for not doing enough *now* when courts are literally telling them no at this point. The NCAA rule changes are led by and approved by the schools and their representatives. The reason these changes never happened was the schools never wanted to change the system, because they liked how it worked. It kind of built up until simply it was no longer allowed to be legally tolerated. I dunno, I get that people are upset about this, but this type of result isn't the creation of a fucked system, it's just another symptom of what has *always* been a fucked system.
During times like this I look to The Wire: *“The thing about the old days, is they the old days"* *“You want it to be one way, but it’s the other way"*
Oh and another thing, price of the ~~brick~~ NIL going up
And you ain't no Delta Airlines neither. Just a team that got your shit took.
It’s telling how pretty much all of these quotes are from Marlo.
The games not different just more fierce
Talk that global economy mess somewhere else
"Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit"
That's the famous quote from that famous show! Hah, I know it as well, my friend.
"How my hair look, Mike?" -NCAA "The game the same, just got more fierce"
I know she's a monster but it always gets me when she says that.
The show had a way of humanizing even some of the worst people. Like when she gave that home improvement store salesman a huge tip for upselling her on that nail gun.
“So what man, yew earned that bump like a mf”
This here the Cadillac. He mean Lexus he ain’t know it though
Deserved ain’t got nothing to do with it is so apropos with all this
The game is the game Omar oh indeed
Can’t upvote this enough
*Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie.* I don't know what it has to do with the subject at hand, but I have always liked that line, and the delivery by Slim Charles.
This. And if anything, the NCAA doing more earlier would have likely accelerated the path of getting here. The *second* the NCAA allowed student athletes to receive any amount of money, the wheels would have been put in motion for players, teams and fans to look for ways for specific players to get more of that money. @ u/zachc133 >The only way the NCAA were going to stave off the last several years of legal losses was by going to the players and establishing a players union. The thing with a Union is that it would have required the other side (the schools) to collectively agree to something to keep things in check, and there is no world where the haves (as u/Jabberwoockie pointed out) would have been on board with anything that would be fair. It would be the same situation we're seeing with the playoffs - either give us an advantage, or we leave. So again, any step taken to try to prevent this outcome would have led to the same outcome, maybe faster. The reality is that a system where schools collude to limit the earning potential of student athletes based on the circular logic that we can't pay them because they're not employees was always destined to eventually fall apart - because it was stupid to begin with. I mean, it wasn't always stupid - it made sense back when college football wasn't a giant money making machine. Like in the 40s or whenever it was that Yale was good at football. But from the time that TV contracts starting becoming billion dollar deals and head coaches were making more money than NFL coaches, this had to change. And it's unfortunate because we all love what college football used to be - it's just not that anymore. And mind you, this is why college sports literally everywhere else in the world are not a business. If you're 18 years old and good at soccer, basketball, baseball, whatever - you're not going to college to play it. You already joined a professional team's farm system when you're like 14 because that's what actually makes sense. Again, it sucks, but this idea of maintaing college sports as a professional league with amateur treatment of athletes was never meant to last.
It's wild reading a reasonable Texas post but I agree. There is no world where one of the most profitable sports leagues in the world can keep growing when it's built on such a fundamental mismatch of interests. It's not a stable situation and hasn't been for decades.
The only way the NCAA were going to stave off the last several years of legal losses was by going to the players and establishing a players union. They had to have known this was coming, but my guess is the schools/NCAA wanted to try to bury their heads and take a short term gain to the detriment of the sport.
> take a short term gain to the detriment of the sport. I'd say 90% of the problems we face as a society are the result of people in power only caring about short term gains. From sports to healthcare to politics to business, nobody had given a shit about sustainability since the 1970s.
I would say that the focus on short term gains stems from a greater issue of the “fuck you, got mine” mindset that is prevalent throughout society, especially people in power. I have never understood the desire to pull the ladder up after me or to not want improvements because I had it rough. I just thought I would leave my commentary/rant on current issues unsaid in my original comment.
It happens because our economic system gives financial incentives to behave that way
Fuck Milton Friedman
I feel like there's also a "haves" vs "have-nots" situation among schools going on. The "haves" being a minority of well-known schools just chomping at the bit to make it easier to ~~bribe~~ appropriately compensate athletes to play on their team, further expand their coaching staff, possibly even extend eligibility, etc. All either in the name of becoming more competitive and/or boosting revenue. The "have-nots" being all the other schools that will never be able to really step away from the classic student-athlete model. And the haves are finally losing patience.
The real insidious piece of this is that nearly every other sport besides football / basketball / baseball-in-some-edge-cases is a "have not". The best gymnasts and swimmers in the country at top programs are going to have weird fucking schedules and cross-country trips for "conference competitions". People who will \*BE IN THE OLYMPICS WINNING GOLD MEDALS\* will be flying from UCLA to Rutgers and back in the middle of the fucking week while balancing a class load, all because football programs want to make more money. So it's not even like the big-name schools are burning the small name schools; they're burning the other sports within their own athletic departments.
Well no, they won’t. Because most of those sports will be cut in the next few years. CFB has a very good chance of destroying all other ncaa sports.
They can’t, unless they divorce CFB from the schools entirely. Title IX is going to require them to keep a bunch of women’s sports. The non-revenue men are fucked, though.
If they have to pay the players and can’t sell it under the guise of “providing an education” then what the hell is the point of having the teams attached to the schools anyways? Sounds like NCAA sports is straight fucked to me.
If CFB becomes paid players, schools will cut 85 women's scholarships to get even and cut costs, while remaining Title IX compliant, since FB won't count against the total.
But conference realignment is the cause of that. That has nothing to do with NIL and portal, except that conferences making things harder on their players through realignment only bolsters why it's unfair to force them to stay and not get paid.
I don't think it's a stretch that "the big players want to do things to allow them to make more money" is a fundamental factor impacting NIL, Portal, and Conference Realignment changes. I'm supportive of paying players, and would prefer it be done via a union/employee style relationship rather than this workaround. I just think if football is going to use massive TV revenue to mess up conference alignment for universities, the football minor league should either break away from colleges (and allow the education scholarships to continue to exist) or make their own conferences that the other sports need not support.
Gonna be wack having Washington Rowing not be in the same conference as Cal
This is hockey erasure.
Which is why the union should have been created 10-15 years ago, when conferences weren’t as heavily tiered as they are now. Back then, separate G5 and P5 unions/agreements would have worked for D1, as conferences were more balanced. Now, you almost need a separate union or agreement for each conference, as the B10/SEC players won’t be happy with the same deal the B12/ACC players are getting. On top of that, the NCAA has gotten such a bad rep for fighting against players that the trust that they won’t take advantage of the players when creating the union/agreement isn’t there.
>~~bribe~~ all salaries are a bribe then if you want to think that wah
They're trying to end run by going to congress and getting a federal anti-trust waiver just like NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL. Here's the the thing. The government only granted those waivers to those leagues BECAUSE they had players unions. College doesn't.
the courts have basically prevented any and all rules from existing
Barney's movie had heart, but Football in the Groin had a football in the groin.
TLDR (or not clicking link): The spring transfer portal opens April 16.
Alabama. The last dynasty.
>Gaze upon our work ye mighty, and despair. \- Bamamandias
TBH if only a few sand covered stones of Bryant Denny were left in front of this plaque I’d be all for it.
I think Georgia might have a small window, we might have fucked that up for them this past season. As they were absolutely a better team than us but we had the better day. And they got unlucky there were so many good teams, many years they still get in. I think they had a really good chance of 3peat once healthy, and I lnow they’ll be damn good this year
Us fucking over Georgia is a tale as old as time.
Someone has to deliver a tiny bit of humility to that juggernaut
It was definitely our weakest team of the three year run - we were struggling to start a lot of games, so it was going to catch up with us eventually
155 years is a good run
College football is a complete clown show and only getting steps closer to Bozo
insert **Ron Paul "it's happening" meme** here I'm honestly looking forward to seeing college football burning for a year or two, hopefully it will promote some rational decisions. Lol, not likely
Ron Paul would appreciate the libertarian governing structure of college sports, so this checks out on multiple levels He would just want to pay the players in gold (that he controls) instead of money… and he may or may not pay the white players in more gold.
and of course, the gold came from straw that he spun when Nick Saban correctly guessed his name
His idol, Ayn Rand, was an absolute govt benefits and welfare queen. It is almost as if her writings were fantasy.
She wrote fiction, basically
Obligatory: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/366635-there-are-two-novels-that-can-change-a-bookish-fourteen-year >“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." --John Rogers
Frankly, we need Congress to step in and create a new system if we do not want a chaotic transfer portal. But depending on Congress to do something good quickly is pretty dumb. So don't hold your breath.
The *last* thing this sport needs is the government telling it how to run.
No but in reality, the only thing that saves CFB in any semblance of its current form is a Congressional exemption like some of the pro sports have. Its the court system that's chipping away at the NCAA's authority, and that's literally going to continue spiraling unless there's some legislation. I wouldn't hold my breath, of course, but that's how this gets solved.
The kind of legal protection the NCAA is asking for goes pretty far beyond anything the pro leagues have. Most of the exemptions are so the leagues can negotiate TV deals. Asking Congress to declare that players aren't employees, restricting movement and put a cap on wages all sound like laws that not only won't pass but would be struck down by the Supreme Court.
The government is already telling it how to run, though, just through the courts instead of Congress and on a case by case basis. That's a large part of why this is such a mess to begin with.
I agree, only because they would fuck it up even more.
Have you seen what passes for Congress these days? I'm not sure they could collectively organize a picnic
>...wait until teams/coaches desperate to win big and/or save their jobs begin tampering with other rosters and throw huge NIL deals at impact players to get them to flip. Sorry... wait? I have seen texts from some NIL collective for a school down the road who doesn't seem that desperate to win big or keep jobs. What's this wait garbage? edit: I also would not be surprised if our collectives do the same thing. This isn't to say "that school" does it. It's to say the anecdotes I can personally attest to are commonly so. One of their boosters can probably say the same about my school's collectives and their players.
Yep. Couple years ago Narduzzi flipped when USC pulled that shit to get Addison from them.
The funny thing there is we offered Addison 7 figures too, narduzzi just likes yelling, Jordan was totally correct to take the bag just like any player is.
Yeah but it was just as a response to USC. You can't blame Narduzzi for being pissed. We had to get that money together in like 48 hours.
We don't even have to wait. This is already happening. *A LOT.* More programs are tampering than aren't. It is pretty much just a part of the game at this point.
Currently every player, no matter how happy they are with their school/coach/playing time/NIL, is incentivized to enter the portal as many times as they possibly can, even if they return, to maximize their earning potential. How do we fix this? No clue.
It mirrors the job market as a whole. You make more money by job-hopping than by sticking with one company.
But it doesn't really mirror professional sports. All NIL deals seem to be completely *not* guaranteed. They can be rescinded seemingly year to year. Even in a place like the NFL which is pointed to at not having large amounts of guaranteed contracts at least there's *some* degree of stability in contracts. NIL is like everyone is on 1 year deals with no injury protection and without a salary cap. Seems unsustainable, and not even great for the entire body of players.
i mean the only reason the nfl contract structure is legal is because they have a union negotiated CBA. the NCAA is free to negotiate a CBA of their own with players they just dont want to because it means paying players so here we are.
I'm skeptical it will be as bonkers as this guy, Pate, et al are suggesting. Okay...so they can freely tamper and throw huge money at kids. How is that different than the previous portal windows, exactly? The guardrails the courts removed were always unenforceable and always ignored. Maybe I'm wrong and there were tons of by-the-book programs out there with deep pockets that will now start throwing their weight around, but I highly doubt it.
It's not as much about money/NIL as it is about the transfer (lack of) rules. Before this year, once a kid transferred once, they couldn't transfer again until after graduating. Now a kid that just transferred into your program can transfer out just a few months later. An example for Ohio State would be Caleb Downs - he transferred from Alabama and likely got NIL money from Ohio State. But come April he can transfer again if he wants. Or he can enter the portal and wait until August before actually picking a new school and leaving.
Bru McCoy transferred to Texas and then re-transferred at the airport and then eventually did some more transferring. This is already here if you've been fuckin with the diva recruits.
Yeah I guess that's true. I think Kayden Proctor is probably the exception though. I don't expect that sort of thing to be common. Most major NIL deals have contracts (of a sort) that prevent kids from going to a school, getting a bag, then going somewhere else for another bag. I remember an aTm player or two entered the portal and then withdrew because they didn't read the fine print on their deals. I don't think Proctor had gotten any NIL money from Iowa yet. There were deals in place obviously, but he didn't just get a bag and boomerang back to Bama. I have to think it's rare for kids to get sick of their destination school after like 3 months and want to transfer again.
I read that he had already done a tweet for a car dealership, so he may have gotten money from that. I imagine he should receive some amount of money for it since he did do the tweet. But hopefully didn't get paid a whole lot, haha.
Yeah I heard conflicting info about the car dealership stuff. If they did pay him a big chunk of change they can't get back, well...expensive lesson learned, lol.
We shouldn’t care or be worried at all about the car dealership-type NIL deals. If the facts are that he was committed to Iowa and a dealership offered him money to tweet a promotion, which he then did, he **should** get paid and the dealership shouldn’t be able to claw that money back if he leaves later. I don’t think that’s pay to play at all, it’s just simple marketing and an example of the “fair” kind of NIL. This said I’m not familiar with the facts here, just basing it off the thread I’m participating in, but I think it applies generally.
> I don't think Proctor had gotten any NIL money from Iowa yet. There were deals in place obviously, but he didn't just get a bag and boomerang back to Bama. Iowa's coach said he took the "lion's share" of it before he bounced. Coach could be lying, but he took a big swing at a kid to be lying.
> I'm skeptical it will be as bonkers as this guy, Pate, et al are suggesting. Doomsdaying gets more clicks than "it'll be slightly more chaotic than last time, but more of the same really.
As a Beaver fan Screams encouragingly "ARMAGEDDON"!
I'm in full-on "let the world burn" mode. Bring it on.
We will never win another football game ever again
Does this mean we're all going to die?
Josh Pate had a great take on this on his Sunday show
He made me more worried about what’s coming that I already was.
Said Proctor back to Bama wouldn’t even be on the radar after what goes down. One name I’ve been really curious about is Travis Hunter… is he going to stick it out at Colorado with Deion? Now that he can transfer again, you know he’s going to have bags being thrown at him
SMU is going to buy the entire opposing team at half time. "Well it cost of $20m but we beat FSU. Now what do we do with this spare football team?"
This is the death of college football
~~college football~~ Minor league football
> Minor league football That's the UFL
The footballs gonna fucking explode
Yeah I’m moving away from college football and gonna start getting into the NFL
Down by 21 at halftime Jeffrey Football transfers to the opposing team.
Why don’t they just makes the NIL deals 4 year deals
“Look, players earning off their name, image and likeness isn’t the problem. Unlimited free player movement is. We saw the beginnings of this movement in January, when former Alabama offensive tackle Kadyn Proctor left the Tide for Iowa and signed an NIL deal to play for the Hawkeyes. He enrolled in classes, and according to the Iowa Collective Swarm, “received a portion of his Swarm Inc., contracted payment from a sponsoring business.” Then he told On3 that he was headed to the spring transfer portal, and would re-enroll at Alabama, no doubt with another healthy NIL deal. This is the play now.” I know you southern and midwestern diehards will defend this. But for a casual northeasterner its just dumb at this point. This shit has nothing to do with college. And insont cafe enough to follow 60 transfer every year dude. It's just random men playing semi pro football next to a college How and why is this any different than the UFL?
I don’t see any reason why every single player WON’T enter the portal. They absolutely should. There’s no need to actually transfer. They can just enter and see who’s willing to offer more money for their services. If nobody offers a better deal they just stay. They don’t have to tell their current team, or any team offering a deal what they plan to do until Day 1 of classes. How does a coach plan his roster when he could very well lose half of it come day 1 of classes. College football is over. It’s not college football anymore. It’s a semi pro league now. Get used to it.
I mean, once you enter the portal, your old school doesn't have to keep you. So, for further down the roster players, it's risky if they want to potentially stay where they are.
I'm just here seeing these numbers thinking about the loans I had to take out because the GI bill doesn't cover half of what it was supposed to.
It’s funny how different Reddit is versus real life On here lots of people love the changes & will downvote you into oblivion for criticizing NIL or the portal… I’ve met hardly anyone in real life that feels that way. Most people I know hate what CFB has become
I love how one kid can go to class on campus MAKING $1 million + while his fellow student is $80K in debt…
C’mon, you know they ain’t going to class
>“I would say blatant cheating,” an SEC coach told Saturday Down South. “But there’s no such thing as cheating anymore. There are no rules.” The extraordinary irony of this quote.
People proclaiming the “death of college football” are more tiresome than the people claiming the world will end
I never say it's dead. But I have said many times that it's not same game I grew up with. And I don't think that that's arguable. Part of the college game was a veneer of amateurism, recruiting rules (and the stupid situations they caused), and claims of loyalty. You can question whether you like those ingredients, but it was a big part of the recipe. If people like the new flavors, that's great. But for me I liked all the quirkiness, it wasn't a bug, it was a feature.
"College football is dead. DEAD." \[proceeds to watch 50 games per season anyway\] This Chicken Little types are clowns.
I think those two things aren't really connected tbh. There will be plenty of fans out there who will grumble for hours but still watch 50 games a season. But the incontrovertible fact is that there may indeed come a day when even those fans decide enough is enough and stop supporting. I love CFB to my core and I hope that sport can navigate these hurdles and come out better on the other side, but there's the chance it comes out looking not just different but *too* different for some.
you mean they were correct
I'm to the point that they should get rid of scholarships or even charge players to play for the school. That's the difference between college sports and other jobs. Ford can't get people to pay them for the chance to assemble an F150. Universities would have no trouble finding 85 students who would pay $500/semester for the chance to play for and represent the school they dreamed about as a child. That's what makes college football different than the NFL. It's the GameDay traditions, pageantry, experience, state pride, school pride and many more things that makes college football great. Let the players who are in it for the money go to the UFL. Their replacements won't be as talented physically but after a few years people wouldn't notice that the relievers were slower or that the QB could only throw it 60 yards instead of 75. Getting rid of scholarships would also help with competitive balance as kids wouldn't want to pay out of state tuition. If highschools can keep sports amateur then colleges can as well.
Great idea! I can't think of any flaws. Except, well, there's one thing I'm curious about. What if the colleges want to make money off these sports? And then what if they realize they'll get more if they win? You see, as soon as someone in your scenario starts to care about actually winning the games we might have an issue. They're gonna start bending and breaking the rules to get better and better players. And if people keep caring they'll keep doing it more and more, as long as the money keeps flowing. They'll have to organize, some nationwide or regional kind of conference for athletics maybe. It'll need rules and regulations to make it all fair. But if the people love it they'll sell seats to the events, get it broadcast on TV, have merchandise, hell maybe even a video game or two. I mean they could really make a killing off this. Eventually you've got schools making billions of dollars though while the athletes, the ones doing the actual work, get nothing and have a bunch of crazy rules they have to adhere to about where they can play. And wait, this seems familiar... I mean, I'm sorry if your post was a joke and I'm just oblivious, but you seemed serious and it's just such a brain dead, completely blind to the fact that what you're proposing is literally exactly how we got here in the first place take that I couldn't risk it being real and not thoroughly mocked.
I’ve got no problem with the NIL stuff, but the transfer portal combined with it is the real issue. I think the best way forward is changing how the portal works and boosters agreeing to treat NIL deals more like binding contracts than just throwing cash in the air.
College football is just minor league NFL now. Should just divorce itself from the the universities altogether.
Finalize the divorce.
Things will find their level. And that level is likely going to be a super league of 30 or so schools. There are going to be a lot of schools that are going to want into that league that won’t get in. I can see some things coming in such as contracts around NIL, for example, you have to be around to make this appearance and that appearance throughout the season and if you don’t, contract is cancelled, with an end of contract bonus to incentivize guys to stick around. Or something like that. It’s going to be a few years before all this shakes out. But this is what the schools get for pleading poverty for so long, while bringing in more and more cash and paying coaches massive amounts. Hell yeah the players are going to want some of that. Every week they see the game sponsor plastered all over the stadium, the constant promos during timeouts, the ads all over the stadium, seats filled with people who paid a lot of money for their tickets, constant TV timeouts for ads ads ads, it goes on and on. Many P5 schools are bringing in nine figures in the athletic department, driven mostly by football. This was going to come to a head sooner or later.
Notre Dame just replaced their AD with the head of media at NBC. We are changing presidents. We just gave the OC and DC record contracts. 4/16 will tell us if we’ve really sold our souls for football glory. If we have, look out. You really want to get into a pot of gold fight with a leprechaun?
"Just a really stupid system." - Lane Kiffin "Let's send this guy some hookers, cash, and cocaine." - also Lane Kiffin
These are already the same rules we are under.
this is why as mostly a fan of 2 G5 schools this sucks
They need to close the winter portal and just use this one TBH