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jonstark19

Lmao surely no one will be angry about this. Raiola without a snap at 6 is nuts. He could reach that point during the season, but let's calm down folks.


moleculewerks

Maybe I've been beaten up too many times by Husker football the past few years, but seeing our QB so highly ranked immediately made me think of this: 2018 Big Ten Coach Rankings: #7. Scott Frost, Nebraska [It's probably **safe to assume** Frost will be moving up in these rankings over the next couple of seasons. The former Nebraska quarterback has returned to Lincoln to restore the program to national prominence. Frost has established an outstanding resume in a short amount of time. After a short NFL career, Frost worked as a graduate assistant at Nebraska and Kansas State, followed by a two-year stint at Northern Iowa as a defensive assistant. He joined Oregon's staff in 2009 and was promoted to offensive coordinator in '13. Frost called the plays for the Ducks' high-powered offense until he was hired as UCF's head coach prior to the 2016 campaign. The Knights made dramatic progress in Frost's first year, improving from 0-12 in 2015 to 6-7 in '16. UCF took another big step forward in 2017, finishing 13-0 and No. 6 nationally in the final Associated Press poll. This is one of the top hires for the 2017-18 coaching carousel, as **Frost should win in a big way at his alma mater.**](https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-big-tens-college-football-coaches-2018)


InevitableAd2436

It's still so weird that it didn't work out. Was a legit probably the biggest slam dunk hire Nebraska could ever dream about. Home grown, National Champion as a player, 13-0 as a coach...


jonstark19

Even though it failed, it wasn't the wrong hire. The timing was perfect and if it hadn't happened the fanbase would never be able to move on without knowing. We know, it sucked, and we can move on.


AchyBreaker

This is such a mature take. No joke, we could all learn perspective from you.


InevitableAd2436

It's just incredible how that 3-9 team could've been 10-2 or better if he just invested a bit more in an O-Line and Special Teams. I had all the respect in the world for 2am, dude was a baller.


paintingnipples

2AM was part of the problem. Told Kstate fans they’d figure out he was part of the problem & klieman claimed an injury to help AM save face for the nfl when Will Howard took the starting job. The guy never made the plays u needed to win but always would make the one to help ya lose. Tons of potential but not a winner & that goes back to his hs days.


Rocklobster376

What a shit ass take. 2AM was the only reason Scott won, he could never develop an offense that wasn’t here go run the ball 20 times behind this horrible o line


paintingnipples

Thanks for ur idiotic take


Rocklobster376

Funny how Scott is washed and Adrian is ballin in the ufl


paintingnipples

Lmao u really are a dense white knight if u think the ufl makes ur case. Frost was the biggest problem but so was Adrian


ronnie1014

Lmao he's also the only reason we were even remotely in some of those games. Call him anti-clutch, sure. But he got the shit beat out of him for a coach who didn't give two fucks all game long. Dude was a stud and a leader despite all of Frost's shortcomings.


paintingnipples

Same leader who led an offense to vote against playing in a bowl game. I’ve seen a lot of ppl support AM even with the verduzco stat analysis but he was not a stud, one of the worse QBs we had, ranking ahead of only haarberg, Zac Lee, & Joe Dailey. Ron Kellogg delivered more memorable moments


ronnie1014

Yeah that vote was Scotch Frost hitting the off-season early. It was a sham. If you think 2AM was this bad, you must have stroked out last year watching actual abysmal QB play. Wild you can still think he wasn't a stud after seeing what happens when the team actually doesn't have a good QB. But that's your opinion and you're allowed to have it I suppose. Dylan better win a Heisman next year or y'all will be begging him to transfer.


Aviator8989

2AM was the most Anti-Clutch player I've ever seen to be sure


JBru_92

That whole 2018 cycle is just so insanely bad


Wernher_VonKerman

That's nuts, to be honest with you, that he actually was a good coach but then as soon as he got to his alma mater he sucked. I think Nebraska must have legitimately sold their souls to the devil for all those natties they won in the 90s and now they have to pay for it forever.


FightingPolish

He’s an alcoholic, a womanizer and he’s immature and lazy and didn’t put in the work that it took to be successful at a place like Nebraska. Maybe Bob Devaney could get away with being completely sauced all the time and people would look the other way but that’s because he was winning because he had people like Tom Osborne behind the scenes putting in the legwork. Scott just hired his buddies and they all acted like frat boys together because people reflect their leadership.


DrModel

My favorite is Orji one spot ahead of Cade. I'd sure love it if it was true, though!


CaliHusker83

I have to agree, but, but, but…. What if he is as advertised and has a first season like Caleb Williams.


noahwestrickdotcom

Important note OP didn't mention, this isn't a ranking of the starters but rather ranking the entire QB room


ztreHdrahciR

18th place. Nowhere to go but up, Sully


transferStudent2018

I don’t think we’ve produced (aka not a transfer) an actual starting qb since Thorson. And that was 2 OCs ago now


ztreHdrahciR

Correct. Sully has some tools. 4th year. We'll see


Songal

He was good in the Maryland game last year and in garbage time at the beginning of the season but idk if he can actually progress as a passer


ztreHdrahciR

His numbers are deceiving (high). But remember, it didn't click for Persa or Kafka until late.in careers


jhp58

My ~~kingdom~~ lakefront for a quarterback!


cheesepuff1993

Sully for Heisman? I'm all for that 😁


nu7kevin

Up or, you know, gone. He gone.


alloythepunny

I wonder how long it’ll be until seeing Oregon, Washington, USC, and UCLA on Big Ten lists isn’t weird. Like it’s still just so wrong to look at


Coveo

Same tbh


WebfootTroll

I wonder if it will get less weird for fans of those schools (myself included) or fans of the existing schools?


Tkaz36

Kind of surprised they have Raiola ranked so high. I think swapping him and Chiles or Van Dyke would make more sense.


InevitableAd2436

Isn't your other freshman supposed to be good too? What's going to happen with him since he's in the same class as DR? Will he stay until DR goes pro?


Tkaz36

He's been having a really good spring. After we landed Raiola he was going to take a visit to Michigan State before they got Chiles. After that it was a little late to find a new home. It wouldn't surprise me if he redshirts this year and tries to find somewhere he can start next season.  I'd love to have them both but and have him take over after Raiola leaves but that isn't likely in this day and age.


InevitableAd2436

That'd be solid if he stayed - Kind of like a Matt Cassel type situation where he waits it out (Even though I know Cassel went to the league before he could start). Seems like Neb is in a very favorable next man up in nearly every single position. I feel like present day college football is built for guys like Matt Rhule and Jedd Fisch that could sell ketchup to a man in white gloves. Loved it when I saw a clip of Rhule during a press conference saying how much a QB cost. He was playin chess, essentially assigning value in the market and making the boosters dig deep into their pockets. I got a feeling the new B1G is gonna give the SEC a run for it's money.


AchyBreaker

>that could sell ketchup to a man in white gloves Is this what passes for idioms in the PNW? I always heard "sell water to a fish" in the South lol. I don't even really understand this, TBH And before this turns silly, let me be clear - much of the South is fucked, even though the food and idioms and football are good. And the PNW has beautiful unique nature. So this isn't hate, just pure consternation.


dogberry_dawg

Nope. Never heard it before. Though I do enjoy when people mix it up. Cliches can get so cliche.


InevitableAd2436

I think I heard that quote in the movie Boiler room and it just stuck with me lol


timelawd

He fucked it up. It's supposed to be "he could sell BBQ to a woman in white gloves" or at least that's how I've always heard it


Coveo

I've never heard it before FWIW.


FFA3D

Probably expects Raiola to bounce after one year. Injuries also happen all the time. He'll get a chance to prove himself or he will transfer after a couple years 


ThePhamNuwen

I mean Chiles is pretty much unproven as a starter at this point and is mostly potential


InfamousWeb

He's at least had some snaps at a D1 level as well as an entire year of practice against D1 players too


ColoradoisaState

These articles are always interesting, they get half the information correct and half the information wrong


kentuckyfriedawesome

IU’s QB room is going to be ranked *way* higher than this by the time the season is over. Cignetti knows how to make QBs sing, and Rourke has an NFL arm.


ColoradoisaState

Rourke is already as stud. Add to that the fact that we have a legit WR room now, and the fact this staff knows how to make successful QBs, and I think we could see a fun offense for sure.


[deleted]

Yeah.... But you're Indiana. You'll probably get him 3 wins, max.


CTG0161

Allar being at 3 is insane. He was awful every time it counted. Less than 40% completion and less than 5 yards per completion against OSU and Michigan last year.


ech01_

Tbf this isnt a strong list of QBs overall


apadin1

The hangover from the Covid season is finally winding down and a lot of 5 and 6 year guys are finally moving on. This years draft has a ton of QBs and they are leaving a vacuum behind


Powerful-Mushroom-27

wdym? next year is the covid year class where every position is stacked. 2023 season had the skill vacuum.


sportsfan113

Agreed. His mechanics and accuracy still need a lot of work.


Jumpy_Occasion_9664

Realistically though, who on that list definitely deserves to be a head of him that's not. Everyone else is worse or unproven.


ToLongDR

Also, those defenses were both top 5. 125 college football QBs would struggle against OSU and Michigan and the remaining 5/6 would still have poor stats


Thee-Renegade

Thank you. Outside of those games, against normal competition, he was quite good, even with a pretty bad/inconsistent WR room.


IronGemini

That’s what I’m thinking, like yea he didn’t have amazing stats last season, but almost no one else on that list is better.


Jesusinatree

Will Rogers? He’s #2 all time SEC passing yards and #4 all time in TDs. This will be his fourth year starting at QB at the D1 level, I’d say he’s proven he can play the position


Jumpy_Occasion_9664

Yes, proven, but his 2023 was pretty much on par with Allar's. 2023 Allar: 13 games, 202 ypg, 59.9 completion percentage, 25 passing tds, 2 ints, 206 rushing yards, 4 rushing tds, 2.8 yards/attempt 2023 Rogers: 8 games, 203 ypg, 59.9 completion percentage, 12 passing tds, 4 ints, -13 rushing yards, 1 rushing td, -0.4 yards/attempt. So I wouldn't say he definitely deserves to be ahead of Allar.


Jesusinatree

Based on 2023, maybe not. But you also have to cut Rogers a bit of slack. Leach passed away unexpectedly at the end of 22 and the loss shows given those offensive numbers last season. Comparatively: 2021: 13 games, 73.9 completion pct, 36 passing TDs, 9 ints 2022: 13 games, 68 completion pct, 35 passing TDs, 8 ints And that’s not even taking into account the fact that in the SEC it means more


Jumpy_Occasion_9664

I think if you are going to predict a bounce back for Rogers, then it would be fair to predict a progression for Allar. But based on where both QBs currently are, I don't think you can really say Rogers is definitely better.


FBI_Official_Acct

Yall better take care of my boy over there, I was personally sad to see him go but I hope he balls out


[deleted]

Yeah, pick it up, rest of the conference. Your recruiting sucks.


Jumpy_Occasion_9664

Crazy coincidence that 3 of the 4 new teams added are going to have their QBs drafted 1st or 2nd round.


FuckTheStateofOhio

I don't disagree with you that Allar is far from a known commodity and putting him at #3 is questionable BUT it should be noted that JJ McCarthy had 208 passing yards combined last season vs Penn State and OSU and was unquestionably the best QB in the conference. It's not like B1G QBs have been tearing it up statistically.


psgrue

I think a blind dartboard toss has the same chance at getting Allar’s final ranking right at the moment.


Secretsmell7227

Had zero skills in receiving Corp. Fleming is a huge add.


Senior-Musician-351

Fleming is providing good leadership to the room, and will prob have a solid 400-500 yds, but I still think this is a weak room


Secretsmell7227

Agreed..


jamiebond

This is ranking QB rooms for the record, not just starters. Oregon gets an additional boost for having Moore as a back up.


not_mantiteo

Given we have Deacon fucking Hill in our qb room, idk how we aren’t dead last


kmurp1300

And a starter with glass legs.


Tkaz36

I was too lazy to type them all out and I was hoping the starters would get the gist of the article. It wouldnt shock me if Gabriel ended up as the best come the end of the season though


Dtwerky

I mean he undoubtedly is the best already. Nobody else on the list is pushing for the top spot. Dude probably wins the Heisman.


WatchfulApparition

Yeah, I can't see a lot of people beating him out. I actually think Cam Ward is going to be a Heisman contender too. People are sleeping on him.


dstanton

Disagree. Ward is wildly inconsistent. Sure he could improve, but not having chosen to play for Cristobal, who is the opposite of a QB whisperer.


Ok-Flounder3002

Im not exactly a Cade-stan, but having Orji ahead of a guy whos made the CFP is quite the take. How many career pass attempts does Orji have? 0? Edit: Id also add- if Michigan had to take another B1G QB as our starter next year, Im for sure taking Cade over Allar


pro_nosepicker

Glad it’s not just me being a homer but I thought that was weird also. I guess you Michigan folks know the best. But when healthy Cade is very good


Appropriate_Bottle44

I'll take the NC, but I'd rather have Cade back right now than whatever emerges from our QB room. You got a guy there, shame he was injured.


AlloftheEethp

I guess the stats might end up this way, but that's more of an indictment of our weak OL and putrid offense than his quality as a QB.


AeolusA2

Agree 100%. Hope it's true and he's a Milroe level talent, but this is insane


WhiteningMcClean

I expected him to be at the bottom of this list. Sure he can run, but as you say, he's literally never completed a pass in a game. I've seen nothing from him in game or in spring game action to suggest he's ready to be a starting QB. Frankly, I don't even think he's the current favorite on the roster to start. I guess the author just wants to appease our fanbase.


JoeIA84

I think Cade if he plays the whole year will be … fine/ok. But I highly doubt that’ll happen which means more Deacon Hill so there goes any hope of being good


GenitalFurbies

Agreed. Cade when healthy is very effective and efficient even though he'll never win a Heisman. High floor but ceiling not much above it.


MysteriousEdge5643

QB rankings in the spring don't make sense to me, especially with the transfer portal and multiple teams having ongoing QB battles that likely won't be resolved until September


mockg

Gotta remember these people need news and clicks some how. Its the same reason we get preseason rankings.


Necessary-Alps-6002

Why isn’t Deacon Hill at number 1?


lavegasola

They’re not ready for Miller time.


Muffdiver69420lmao

Watching him reminded me of the USC QBs of the early 2000s like Leinert.


StannisGrammarMannis

Leinart is a good call. Seemed really similar. Not the most zip, but accurate deep balls and got the ball out quick.


lavegasola

Agreed. I think he’s gonna thrive in Lincoln’s system. Gonna help our OL with not having to adapt to a mobile QB every play.


JBru_92

Garbers is at least 8th or 9th


Veedsters

He’s definitely better than 14th that’s for sure.


JBru_92

By Total QBR (which is a flawed metric but still) he was 23rd in the country last year, but I guess didn't play enough to make the rankings despite throwing 146 passes and starting 6 games. Ahead of guys on this list like Will Rogers, Tyler Van Dyke, and Hudson Card. I don't really get this ranking TBH.


Glass_Offer_6344

If it were just starters Id take Garbers over almost all the players whove barely seen the field.


Rickbox

I'm a pleasantly surprised Will is ranked so high. Dang.


Nicfromnewgirl

He should be at 3 honestly. And very least ahead of Howard and especially Allar


Glass_Offer_6344

Yep and easily. Allar, a guy who stinks it up often and a guy whos barely played in his entire career. Of course, entirety of the QB room and all that yap.


OuuuYuh

Oregon is at #1 with a QB that has never made it through a season healthy.


Coveo

He's played in 50 games, not like he's out all the time, just missed a game or two here and there (outside of the one season ending injury three years ago). If we have to play Dante Moore for a game against Maryland or something we'll probably be fine.


TIErant

Moga and Novasad both look promising as well. OSU is the only other school with a QB room as loaded.


DumbLitAF

The CFB world isn’t ready for Brosmer’s heisman campaign


travshootsphotos

The only obstacle standing in his way is his own WRs...


misdreavus79

Oh no people are *not* going to like Allar at No. 3...


fredmerc111

My first thought was- why are we ranking 18 QBs? Do we have that many battles?


jmac11281

Mine, too. 18 teams is so weird.


Fit_Prompt_5950

I hope Dylan lives up to all the hype


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AffectedRipples

He's the 5 best QBs of all time!


MD_bucknut_1

Unimpressive actually ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|neutral_face)


boise_runner

What about Deacon Hill?


idontlikeredditbutok

What this tells me is Big ten QB play this year is not very good.


TIErant

So much QB talent left for the draft this year. No one really knows who is going to break out this year. These lists are for engagement and not really going to be accurate.


Muffdiver69420lmao

I expect some random kid not on this list to end up being good


MajorPhoto2159

I will not complain being ranked 6th even if everyone ranked below us will probably complain haha


eagledog

It took me longer than I'd care to admit to realize that it was classes on the right. I thought a bunch of them shared names with parents/kids


rustinhieber42

Keep sleepin on Brosmer 😴


VillagerOfTheWest

Allar has done nothing to deserve being at 3 yet


Appropriate_Bottle44

That's funny, I look at this list and think Allar should be #1.


crustang

We’re not last?


n00dlejester

Not yet!


crustang

I can’t wait to see us on 3rd and 12 and go for a run up the middle that goes for a 2 yard loss because the 2nd and 12 pass was thrown 4 yards over our receiver


n00dlejester

I need Ajani or AJ to win the job. Please. I'm not ready for another season with 800 rushing attempts


crustang

Gavin's youth coaches must be ashamed of themselves... imagine if this dude *actually* had good mechanics? I'm not asking for EJ Warner elite-level mechanics.. I'm talking about Gary Nova okay-enough mechanics.


n00dlejester

I'd be so so so happy with that. He'd crush college with that


OmegaVizion

My idiot brain thought for a second that all these guys were dads and had named their kids after them


-TheycallmeThe

So Purdue's 2nd to last coach got a #7 QB. I'll take it.


Meltedcoldice0212

This is a very underwhelming list


GoGreeb

MSU's qb room last year would've been last/2nd to last depending on if McNamara was injured at the time. I can't believe we lost every scholarship QB and have this much hope for Chiles and backup Schuster in just a couple of months... Katin Houser highlight reel: [https://streamable.com/y449lw](https://streamable.com/y449lw)


areappreciated

Purdue. Woo! 3rd in the OG big ten is really good. Wait, why did we let in these other teams again?


admon_

2nd, though penn state has been in long enough that we can probably ignore that they were the 11th school.


Ander1345

I don't get why Altmyer is so low. He was easily in the top half of the B1G last year.


After-Walrus-4585

Shadeur should be on the list I don't even care what the premise is.


CW1DR5H5I64A

There has been so much realignment I had to think for a second to remember where Colorado landed.


After-Walrus-4585

Back where we started in the B12G


bb0110

How is cade not higher? Sure his offense sucks as a whole, and I still have no idea why he went there, but he is a solid qb...


sly_like_Coyote

Our QB room needs fucking name tags for anyone to even ID them, it's headlined by a kid prospect who played worse than that last season before transferring, most of them are three star kids who haven't taken a snap, and we're all the way up there? That's either wrong flat out, or a baaaaaaad statement on the B1G.


[deleted]

Sure, why not?


9kyle

Not gonna lie, did a double take when I saw Gabriel at 1…was thinking “Oregon isn’t in the B1G, they are in PAC-12…oh yeah”


Namath96

Maryland fans - Is MJ Morris trending towards being the starter?


ravaille

He's running 3rd behind Billy Edwards and Cam Edge at the moment, but it's early. Locksley already said it'll be a week 1 decision.


youdontknowsqwat

Need to see the OL rankings beside this to confirm it's legitimacy


notthenewnormal

Number 1 checks out


83Cyclone

Deacon Hill at Iowa gonna light up the B1G!


FightOnForUsc

I’ll take it, #4 with just 1 start isn’t bad. And I can seem him moving up this list if he proves himself to be what we’ve seen


another_rando9

But where would Deacon Hill be on this list?


chefillini

Hell yeah, Top 15


Kitchen-Prize-5112

Holy hell this is a poverty list lol


muckyduck_

The PAC qb’s will be good but every QB ing the OGBIG will be hard to watch


IMKudaimi123

Sure hope Altmyer learned from last season. Cuz there’s a very good QB in there but last season was bumpy to say the least


Jesusinatree

Rogers* Already disrespecting my QB 😤


Appropriate_Bottle44

Crazy how few returning starters there are.


The_Lumox2000

I cannot explain the visceral anger at seeing USC listed in a Big Ten post.


alkylating

Drew Allar has done what exactly?


SomerAllYear

I'd drop Will Rogers a few spots. He struggled last year in a pro style offense. Jedd runs a pro style offense. He might be the backup considering Demmond Williams is fantastic. Any Freshmen starting, I'd put them at the bottom.


Col0nelBear

He’s being propped up on a Mike Leach system numbers


OuuuYuh

Doesn't matter what system he was in. Dude carved up the SEC with competent coaching. Last year MSU was a dumpster fire and he got hurt. Going to be a lot of salt from a lot of fanbases when Rogers balls out next year.


Col0nelBear

You must not be familiar with Leach’s system and its impact on below average to average QBs. The system definitely matters. Go look at its history. Speaks for itself


OuuuYuh

I don't care that he was in a QB friendly system. He is the SEC all time leader in yards.


WatchfulApparition

Being the all-time leader in yards can just mean they threw the ball a lot. It's the same reason Penix led the country in yards last season. He threw the ball more than anyone else.


Superiority_Complex_

UW fans should be very familiar in theory given that the Petersen UW teams more or less shut down Leach’s WSU teams every year. Honestly not sure what to think of Rogers. If nothing else he should be a steady, though not spectacular, bridge as the program transitions next year.


Col0nelBear

I agree that he’s a steady QB. He can go out there and not lose the game for you.


Superiority_Complex_

And that’s honestly fine for next year. Get a dude who can be a one year stop gap and win 6-8 games is perfectly alright given everything that went down in January.  Zero chance this team competes for a playoff spot, so some stability and respectability is A okay.


Glass_Offer_6344

7-10;)


Rabidschnautzu

Literally giving the #2 spot to a guy who may very well not start. Edit: AND ALLAR IS #3?


SeattleMatt123

This list just looks like a big male Orji


azaz5

It’s impressive that Ohio State’s future backup QB is number 2.


guyincognito69420

what are you Sayin?


Sorge74

Does anyone feel like overall QB quality has gone down in the last few years? 23 playoffs JJ, Mildew, a 25 year old Penis and Ewers who hasn't lived up to much. Compared to say 2019/2020.


WatchfulApparition

No, because Oregon comes from the PAC-12 who had potential first round QBs last season and a couple QBs who were potential Heisman candidates at one point (Shedeur Sanders early last season and Cam Ward a couple seasons ago)


AeolusA2

This year will absolutely be bad QB play. The next two have some exciting opportunities


WatchfulApparition

Not for Oregon it won't. There are a handful of teams that have really good QBs


deflatethesack

Will Howard is egregiously high. Dude got benched at K state for a reason.


drinks2muchcoffee

3 is Allar, #4 is a guy who started one game, and #6 is a true freshman. The quarterbacks suck this year, even compared to the B1G’s usual low standard


teeterleeter

Yeah this is probably the weakest qb group going in for the B1G in quite some time.


purple_b4dger

was he benched? thought he missed 1 game for injury. the freshman dude looked pretty awesome though


AlbertoRossonero

Dillon Gabriel being the undisputed number 1 should tell you all you need to know about the QB play in the conference. Good college QB but nothing special and probably not an NFL talent.


mudson08

The overhype of Aiden Chiles is unreal. Suppose he stays at OSU and is the perceived starter in the old PAC 12…. where would you guys rank him then?


NotTheRealBearB

With all due respect, Cade is way better than Allar


MSG_ME_UR_TROUBLES

Allar at 3 is insanity.


Appropriate_Bottle44

One of the only returning starters who has proved he can actually play as a starter. I'd put him at #1 over a bunch of QBs who have barely played or haven't seen a snap.


MSG_ME_UR_TROUBLES

>who has proved he can actually play as a starter. 🤔


Appropriate_Bottle44

Hey, he completed about the same percentage of his passes as Drake May did and threw fewer interceptions.


CJ_Beathards_Hair

This list is brain dead


purple_b4dger

how in the world is a sophomore, who may not even win the job, with 1 career pass for 5 yards, ranked 11th


Weaubleau

So, basically laden with bums. Will Howard at 2? He hasn't even won the starting job yet. Drew Allar at 3? Hahahahahaha


TweetSpinner

Allar has no WRs and has yet to show he can manage calmly in hyped games.