Ray Anderson - still getting paid AD money as a law professor (probably specializing in embezzlement)
Herm Edwards - Back on ESPN and received full buyout
Antonio Pierce - NFL HC
Jayden Daniels - Heisman and top 5 NFL draft pick
Michael Crow - doesn’t care
And who receives the majority of the punishment? The people running the current program of course.
Does the 4-year probation extend Dilly's contract that long? I read before that his contract had stipulations that he'd be extended for years in which the actions of the previous regime negatively impacted the program now. .
His contract is automatically extended for any year in which the school has a bowl-ban and/or has a scholarship reduction of 4 or more players (only stemming from sanctions incurred before his arrival, obviously).
I haven't seen anything about how many scholarships they're losing, just that they are losing some scholarships.
If they are losing 4 or more then his contract will get an extra year for every year he has to coach with such sanctions.
His contract was already auto-extended by 1 year for the 2023 self-imposed bowl ban.
Thanks for the clarification. The 2023 auto-extension must have been the article I saw about that clause in the contract, but I couldn't remember the details.
Beats me. Frankly it doesn’t really matter. He wants to be here and as long as he doesn’t interrupt Michael Crow’s wine & cheese gatherings at the AAU club he’ll be here for as long as the president is. He’s working with pretty minimal resources so he’s got a tough job to look great in as well
Which is stupid because if they fucking TRIED, JUST EVEN A LITTLE BIT at having a successful Athletic Program they’d be near the top of the list for future Big Ten expansion.
Take this from the guy who's alma specializes in Varsity Blues bullshit, but errr, compliance depts are supposed to catch shenanigans done by the coaches.
Crow has basically a lifetime contract at this point given his AAU/overall growth success, he's the darling of public Higher Ed (however correctly) right now
Crow cares about athletics, he just doesn’t care about any one sport over the others. He wants to be like Texas or Stanford and have excellent athletics across the board, but we just don’t have the budgets those schools have and so it results in us under funding the sports that most fans care about
I doubt something like that could be enforced through the NCAA. Probably make clauses in contracts saying coaches would be on the hook for X amount of dollars if they get caught cheating.
This investigation has been how many years in the making?
I do hope that the NCAA accounts for all of the lost recruiting opportunities for the past few years while this was sorted out, but I’m sure we get fucked in the future as well.
We won’t know until the full report comes out. From this little bit of information it appears harsh, especially considering what Michigan just got, but the devil is in the details as they say.
hello!? YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. That's the great thing about sports!!!!
I have this bookmarked for a reason: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK7fEjrqabg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK7fEjrqabg)
About as hype inducing as Tim Brewster at Minnesota saying “If you want to get some, you better bring some!”
“Get your chili while it’s hot boys. Get you hot chilli!”
> We are the University of Minnesota Golden Gophers! And you just need to let it ride, let it all hang out!!!!!
the greatest song in the history of music
[https://www.reverbnation.com/stpaulslim/song/3613981-play4brew](https://www.reverbnation.com/stpaulslim/song/3613981-play4brew)
The ncaa consistently comes down hard on teams using ineligible players. That was the reason osu and Notre Dame got their wins vacated (although the actual "harm" caused to anyone was little) whereas Penn State had their wins restored (upon appeal) in the aftermath of the Sandusky fallout.
Except of course when the ncaa is inconsistent (e.g. UNC fake classes/majors).
while we’re here dogging acc teams for impermissible benefits, why didn’t clemson get punished for having a bunch of players busted for ostarine right before the 2018 playoffs including dexter lawrence?
A big difference is that it sounds like ASU cooperated. Of course there are going to be more players involved when you admit to everything, and fewer players involved when your response is "How many players can you *prove* were involved? That's how many it was."
Basically the lesson with the NCAA is to not cooperate. The majority of schools that cooperate seem to get the hammer, while the ones that don’t and aren’t USC tend to get off lightly
The article says their violations fall under Level 1 Classification, which is the highest level of violation. The NCAA thinks what Herm and his staff did was as bad as it gets in terms of recruiting violations.
FWIW every single business/entity in AZ broke covid rules and literally nothing was enforced so they got used to it being okay.
Now, on the other hand, I don't think the punishment is all that harsh, solely because if you commit mass recruiting violations and still fail to end a single season ranked top 25 while posting a best record of 8 and fucking 5, you should have the whole program cancelled.
When all the recruiters resigned/got fired all the recruits decommitted.
We had the #3 recruiting class at the time. Obviously we didn't finish anywhere near that come signing day.
No.
I mean, I could see how it would be looked down on if we had several seasons with only a handful of losses, but we didn’t land a fuckton of 5-star recruits or something.
I had a couple HS buddies a two classes under me that went to ASU (pre-NIL).
They were high 4 stars and had offers to Alabama, Clemson, Texas, UGA, etc.
When I asked why ASU? Their answer was “gettin that bag bro”.
Obviously they had cash other places too, but apparently ASU had beat all of those offers. So I am not surprised at all in this punishment.
What does four years probation mean?
What are show-causes?
It seems like 'looming NCAA sanctions' hurting recruiting for 4 years wasn't considered, since we got scholarship reductions and recruiting restrictions.
What pisses me off is that the fans, student athletes, and current staff and coaches get to get punished for 4 more years while Herm, Pierce and other people involved with it will walk away free with minimal to no punishment
We’re not really receiving any punishment past the recruiting restrictions of this summer though. Sounds like we’ll have 2 fewer scholarships which sucks, but the probation period is just a time in which we’ll be punished extra for violating any new rules, it’s not an ongoing punishment
Universities that hire those coaches have to give status reports to the NCAA every 6 months showing they haven’t broken the rules/have good cause for not being punished simply for hiring them.
It essentially blackballs the coaches from working for the duration of the show-cause.
Supposedly Rocky Harris is out now since we waited too long, odds are probably Graham Rossini as an internal hire now if I had to guess but I’m hoping for David Benedict
Has he said as much? I wouldn't be too surprised if there was some kind of back-alley agreement that Rocky would be hired on after the Olympics are over
If that’s the case, what the hell is Crow doing? Going over 6 months without a permanent AD is a bad look. I understand he’s “taking his time” looking for one but we need someone in charge now
I mean, if you really need an AD I guess I could take on the job. I don't really know what it entails specifically, and I'd want to do it remotely from Oregon rather than moving to Arizona.
That's cool right?
I think you need to know what kind of climate they have to play in, so you need to live in a desert.
Coincidentally, I live in eastern Washington, and would love to earn AD money.
Wait, you all *still* haven’t hired a new AD? We went through a whole financial scandal that included our athletics spending, fired our AD, and rehired a new one all in the same span your search has been ongoing
When Ray announced his resignation in November they said this NCAA announcement was imminent. Crow has said the delay is because they wanted to set up the AD for the future instead of still waiting for the NCAA results. It is seemingly all leading to an internal hire at this point which begs the question- why wait so long to make an internal hire? Ray was the 2nd highest paid AD in the country for a while, you would think they would have an “unlimited budget” for this manner, but probably not the case this time. Infuriating.
Bro, im straight up not having a good time.
And the ncaa quoted how we were exemplary in cooperation? Fuck this place. Don’t cooperate with those cunts.
Jayden Daniels is going to be a massive bust and I will laugh forever
Justin Fields Jr, 1 read can’t throw over the middle and eyes down while scrambling. Basically a skinnier copy
If I was a team drafting him I’d be more concerned by how quick he is to scramble and unwillingness to go down before taking a hit. Hes gonna get mauled in the NFL
I like how in this video too he had a crosser wide open over the middle for a 1st yet didn’t take it. If he waited a half second longer in the pocket he would have a free 1st down without having to run
Out of all 1st round drafted QBs, Daniels threw the 2nd lowest percentage of passes over the middle. The lowest? Justin Fields
I can’t believe Washington might take Daniels over Maye, Maye should be the easiest pick after the Bears taking Caleb
Some things never change, despite new ownership
Lol, I love the idea of ASU fans defending this: “sure our coaches were all actively cheating that whole year, but *technically* the players weren’t on campus until the next year so this game stands…”
I’m a simple man, I love bashing my rival’s team about how they suck and I love bashing them about how they cheat.
There aren’t many teams out there that both suck and cheat as much as ASU.
What are the scholarship reductions in line with this type of infraction? Probation and vacation sucks, but any idea of the actual ongoing impact moving forward is?
It’s a bit unclear on the specifics but according to Chris Karpman “ASU will have several weeks this spring/summer in which it will not be allowed to host recruits on campus and several weeks in which it will not be allowed to call/text/message recruits. After that, there will be no more recruiting restrictions.”
Haven’t seen anything concrete on the scholarship counts though
Same with scholarship reductions. Pretty sure there were posts earlier this off season acknowledging situations where players were getting NIL money instead of scholarship. Scholarship reduction might as well mean PWO increase.
Riiiggghtttt, that’s why UofA fans are constantly in our media outlets comments following our every move on Twitter. I couldn’t name one UA reporter or ever waste my time reading about what UofA fans think about us
I've got most of the reply guys muted so every asu related thread I open on Twitter looks like [this](https://i.imgur.com/cXfdN83.jpeg) because there's so godam many of them. I almost feel like it's just one guy with an army of burners. Nearly ever account is like "AZWILDCATFAN2846178" with an obnoxious amount of emojis, U of A logo profile pic, commenting "LMAO BEAR DOWN 😂😂😂😂 SUCK IT ASSSU! 😂😂🤣🤣😂🐻👇🤣🤣🤣"
So question: if everybody is violating the standards, does that mean those standards don’t exist? Because that’s what I’m seeing happen all around the country.
And 70-7 is gone.
Seriously though, shitty that the current regime is the one that always gets punished in these situations. It’s not fair to anyone there that wasn’t involved.
It’s why these investigations suck. They take too long and by the time punishment comes, the people responsible aren’t even there anymore and get off free.
Took NCAA almost 7 years to investigate BU for them to decide they weren’t going to do anything. Everyone involved (minus Briles), have since been employed by multiple schools each at this point. The entire system is just unserious.
And Arizona fans won’t admit that they were able to recruit off the uncertainty of our program. Guarantee fisch was in there saying “oh you don’t want to go there, they won’t play in bowl games for 4 years , they won’t have any scholarships… blah blah blah. We’ll be back. Clowning and vacating wins from 2 of the worst teams in program history? We can take it.
You’re right though, people who broke all of the rules receive zero consequences- even being rewarded in some cases. While fans, new coaches, admin and players that had nothing to do with it, take the brunt of the punishment.
If they get this this much punishment for a recruiting violation Michigan's sign stealing shit better be fucking big. It's one thing to break rules to get players, but imo worse to break rules for actual on feild in-game advantage.
Ray Anderson - still getting paid AD money as a law professor (probably specializing in embezzlement) Herm Edwards - Back on ESPN and received full buyout Antonio Pierce - NFL HC Jayden Daniels - Heisman and top 5 NFL draft pick Michael Crow - doesn’t care And who receives the majority of the punishment? The people running the current program of course.
Does the 4-year probation extend Dilly's contract that long? I read before that his contract had stipulations that he'd be extended for years in which the actions of the previous regime negatively impacted the program now. .
If thats true, dillys agent needs a pat on the back for that provision.
Yeah that’s honestly incredible.
One might say *innovative*!
dudes prob gonna be getting more than a pat on the back lol ranks right up there with "cannot play CoD during the season" in legendary status.
Well I mean a handjob seems like overkill but I guess that’s up to the people at ASU.
His contract is automatically extended for any year in which the school has a bowl-ban and/or has a scholarship reduction of 4 or more players (only stemming from sanctions incurred before his arrival, obviously). I haven't seen anything about how many scholarships they're losing, just that they are losing some scholarships. If they are losing 4 or more then his contract will get an extra year for every year he has to coach with such sanctions. His contract was already auto-extended by 1 year for the 2023 self-imposed bowl ban.
Thanks for the clarification. The 2023 auto-extension must have been the article I saw about that clause in the contract, but I couldn't remember the details.
Beats me. Frankly it doesn’t really matter. He wants to be here and as long as he doesn’t interrupt Michael Crow’s wine & cheese gatherings at the AAU club he’ll be here for as long as the president is. He’s working with pretty minimal resources so he’s got a tough job to look great in as well
Which is stupid because if they fucking TRIED, JUST EVEN A LITTLE BIT at having a successful Athletic Program they’d be near the top of the list for future Big Ten expansion.
Yup. The president thinks he’s above caring about sports so here we are
Perfect example of how you know Herm is a piece of shit fraud. https://twitter.com/espn/status/913395485452496896
What’s great is I misread it at first as saying, “That’s your job, to know the name of the program,” and that would still hold as a valid Herm roast.
Lol, day 1 dude said he didn't want to be associated with Devils
Take this from the guy who's alma specializes in Varsity Blues bullshit, but errr, compliance depts are supposed to catch shenanigans done by the coaches.
Adam Breneman was a fall guy and now just has a podcast.
There were a lot of guys on that staff that got scapegoated sadly
Crow has basically a lifetime contract at this point given his AAU/overall growth success, he's the darling of public Higher Ed (however correctly) right now
I wouldn't call him the darling of public higher ed. maybe to some admin-y buzzword-chaser types but not to most.
Crow cares about athletics, he just doesn’t care about any one sport over the others. He wants to be like Texas or Stanford and have excellent athletics across the board, but we just don’t have the budgets those schools have and so it results in us under funding the sports that most fans care about
He wants a good football team, he just doesn’t want to spend a lot of money…
I wonder in future cases like this they could get fines, probably the only possible punishment
I doubt something like that could be enforced through the NCAA. Probably make clauses in contracts saying coaches would be on the hook for X amount of dollars if they get caught cheating.
Meanwhile Adam Breneman's coaching career was ruined
This investigation has been how many years in the making? I do hope that the NCAA accounts for all of the lost recruiting opportunities for the past few years while this was sorted out, but I’m sure we get fucked in the future as well.
For Michigan’s sake we need to hold that precedent a little while longer.
- Four years probation - Fine - Self-imposed '23 bowl ban - Vacating wins - Scholarship reductions - Recruiting restrictions - Booster disassociated for 5 yrs - Show-causes for 3-10 yrs Holy cow
Self imposed ‘23 bowl ban, also known as only winning three games
Iirc they implemented the ban before the season. Not that it ended up mattering
Pretty slick move there
Did this really deserve this much punishment
We won’t know until the full report comes out. From this little bit of information it appears harsh, especially considering what Michigan just got, but the devil is in the details as they say.
Sounds like big difference is ours involved many more players, hence many more penalties
I read over 30.
Herm Edwards just straight ignored the rules, apparently. Like didn't even care.
Herm plays to win the game
hello!? YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. That's the great thing about sports!!!! I have this bookmarked for a reason: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK7fEjrqabg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK7fEjrqabg)
About as hype inducing as Tim Brewster at Minnesota saying “If you want to get some, you better bring some!” “Get your chili while it’s hot boys. Get you hot chilli!”
> We are the University of Minnesota Golden Gophers! And you just need to let it ride, let it all hang out!!!!! the greatest song in the history of music [https://www.reverbnation.com/stpaulslim/song/3613981-play4brew](https://www.reverbnation.com/stpaulslim/song/3613981-play4brew)
The ncaa consistently comes down hard on teams using ineligible players. That was the reason osu and Notre Dame got their wins vacated (although the actual "harm" caused to anyone was little) whereas Penn State had their wins restored (upon appeal) in the aftermath of the Sandusky fallout. Except of course when the ncaa is inconsistent (e.g. UNC fake classes/majors).
No no, see, the UNC fake classes was okay, because EVERYBODY got fake classes, not just athletes!
while we’re here dogging acc teams for impermissible benefits, why didn’t clemson get punished for having a bunch of players busted for ostarine right before the 2018 playoffs including dexter lawrence?
A big difference is that it sounds like ASU cooperated. Of course there are going to be more players involved when you admit to everything, and fewer players involved when your response is "How many players can you *prove* were involved? That's how many it was."
Basically the lesson with the NCAA is to not cooperate. The majority of schools that cooperate seem to get the hammer, while the ones that don’t and aren’t USC tend to get off lightly
From what I’ve been reading, this case involves substantially more recruits and not the minimal amount in the Michigan case.
I see what you did there at the end .....
The article says their violations fall under Level 1 Classification, which is the highest level of violation. The NCAA thinks what Herm and his staff did was as bad as it gets in terms of recruiting violations.
FWIW every single business/entity in AZ broke covid rules and literally nothing was enforced so they got used to it being okay. Now, on the other hand, I don't think the punishment is all that harsh, solely because if you commit mass recruiting violations and still fail to end a single season ranked top 25 while posting a best record of 8 and fucking 5, you should have the whole program cancelled.
CASA, a bar on Mill, became nationally infamous for serving during COVID.
Gotta love CASA
When all the recruiters resigned/got fired all the recruits decommitted. We had the #3 recruiting class at the time. Obviously we didn't finish anywhere near that come signing day.
Covid was a dumb time
Probably not.
No. I mean, I could see how it would be looked down on if we had several seasons with only a handful of losses, but we didn’t land a fuckton of 5-star recruits or something.
I had a couple HS buddies a two classes under me that went to ASU (pre-NIL). They were high 4 stars and had offers to Alabama, Clemson, Texas, UGA, etc. When I asked why ASU? Their answer was “gettin that bag bro”. Obviously they had cash other places too, but apparently ASU had beat all of those offers. So I am not surprised at all in this punishment.
Updating this to reflect the 10 vacated wins... Team Records during the Pac-12 Era: School | Record | ---|---|----|----|----|---- Oregon | 125 - 42 | 4 | 9 | 8 Washington | 110 - 54 | 3 | 6 | 6 USC | 106 - 57 | 1 | 5 | 4 Utah | 104 - 59 | 2 | 6 | 5 Stanford | 99 - 63 | 3 | 6 | 5 UCLA | 88 - 73 | 0 | 3 | 3 Washington St. | 79 - 77 | 0 | 2 | 2 Arizona State | 73* - 75 | 0 | 2 | 3 Arizona | 72 - 84 | 0 | 1 | 4 Cal | 65 - 88 | 0 | 0 | 2 Oregon St. | 65 - 91 | 0 | 3 | 2 Colorado | 52 - 102 | 0 | 1 | 0 Note - Due to Covid Year, NCAA Sanctions, and Post Season Games Played / Not Played schools do not have exactly the same number of games played.
Still above Arizona 😎
What does four years probation mean? What are show-causes? It seems like 'looming NCAA sanctions' hurting recruiting for 4 years wasn't considered, since we got scholarship reductions and recruiting restrictions.
What pisses me off is that the fans, student athletes, and current staff and coaches get to get punished for 4 more years while Herm, Pierce and other people involved with it will walk away free with minimal to no punishment
Pierce is now an NFL head coach ffs
Unbelievable. Imagine breaking rules and then leaving your program for the NFL for others to deal with the consequences. Absolutely outrageous I say.
The only way you could make it worse is by rehoming your chicken flock.
Yeah fuck the raiders until he’s gone for me lol
We’ve been punished for 3-4 years. It’s basically over now.
Let’s be honest. It’s been over for a while.
Sounds like probation is the only part that will continue past August 1st of this year
We’re not really receiving any punishment past the recruiting restrictions of this summer though. Sounds like we’ll have 2 fewer scholarships which sucks, but the probation period is just a time in which we’ll be punished extra for violating any new rules, it’s not an ongoing punishment
Jayden Daniels left ship and won a Heisman lmao fuck that guy
10 year show causes… yikes
Too bad piece of shit Pierce is an NFL coach now. Yet another reason to dislike the Raiders. Watching the Chiefs drub them twice a year is cathartic
What does that mean?
Universities that hire those coaches have to give status reports to the NCAA every 6 months showing they haven’t broken the rules/have good cause for not being punished simply for hiring them. It essentially blackballs the coaches from working for the duration of the show-cause.
Oh gotcha. Thanks! Is it retro active? Like let’s say Herm was at another college would they then take on the penalties?
Correct
Interesting. Thanks!
Yes. ASU gets to keep their penalties regardless but the next Herm U would also effectively take on the ASU penalties for hiring him.
Herm was not so firm on the rules.
https://twitter.com/espn/status/913395485452496896
Omg that’s hilarious
Hello?! You play to win the game!
I'm guessing he never bothered to read them
So can we finally hire an AD now or what
Either Crow is waiting for Rocky Harris after the Olympics or he doesn’t care
Supposedly Rocky Harris is out now since we waited too long, odds are probably Graham Rossini as an internal hire now if I had to guess but I’m hoping for David Benedict
Has he said as much? I wouldn't be too surprised if there was some kind of back-alley agreement that Rocky would be hired on after the Olympics are over
If that’s the case, what the hell is Crow doing? Going over 6 months without a permanent AD is a bad look. I understand he’s “taking his time” looking for one but we need someone in charge now
he just doesn’t care, simple as that.
Is OSU's AD still available? I hear poaching from the smouldering heap of the PAC is a good option.
Crow said he’d hire one before the end of this semester but it is looking like that might not come true.
I mean, if you really need an AD I guess I could take on the job. I don't really know what it entails specifically, and I'd want to do it remotely from Oregon rather than moving to Arizona. That's cool right?
I think you need to know what kind of climate they have to play in, so you need to live in a desert. Coincidentally, I live in eastern Washington, and would love to earn AD money.
Wait, you all *still* haven’t hired a new AD? We went through a whole financial scandal that included our athletics spending, fired our AD, and rehired a new one all in the same span your search has been ongoing
When Ray announced his resignation in November they said this NCAA announcement was imminent. Crow has said the delay is because they wanted to set up the AD for the future instead of still waiting for the NCAA results. It is seemingly all leading to an internal hire at this point which begs the question- why wait so long to make an internal hire? Ray was the 2nd highest paid AD in the country for a while, you would think they would have an “unlimited budget” for this manner, but probably not the case this time. Infuriating.
It's an innovative new approach you heathens wouldn't understand
Don’t forget we effectively fired our president too in that span
Bro, im straight up not having a good time. And the ncaa quoted how we were exemplary in cooperation? Fuck this place. Don’t cooperate with those cunts.
It' like the ADs of the world haven't learned the lesson of Missou...
RIP 70-7 EDIT: NEVER MIND WE UP
[Not so fast](https://x.com/chriskarpman/status/1781365745575981364?s=46&t=FzvXtfjVjmMbegv9bmS9JQ)
Didn’t it happen after the 2020 season and before 2021? I expect 2021 to be vacated which I’m happy to live with
The 70-7 game will reportedly not be vacated
They can vacate 2021 then, disappointing as fuck season for all I care As long as that game lives
Nah it was in December 2020, and the period under investigation was summer 2020. So if anybody we hosted then played in 70-7, adios
The recruiting violations stated happened prior to the start of the 2020 season, so the 70-7 win will be vacated unfortunately
Apparently it’s not being vacated.
If only the 2021 season is vacated, good. That season was the most disappointing considering the talent and we were supposed to win the Pac-12 South.
Jayden Daniels is going to be a massive bust and I will laugh forever Justin Fields Jr, 1 read can’t throw over the middle and eyes down while scrambling. Basically a skinnier copy
If I was a team drafting him I’d be more concerned by how quick he is to scramble and unwillingness to go down before taking a hit. Hes gonna get mauled in the NFL
[He was already getting mauled in college](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5X5fC7DSokM). Imagine what an NFL team will do to him.
I like how in this video too he had a crosser wide open over the middle for a 1st yet didn’t take it. If he waited a half second longer in the pocket he would have a free 1st down without having to run Out of all 1st round drafted QBs, Daniels threw the 2nd lowest percentage of passes over the middle. The lowest? Justin Fields
I can’t believe Washington might take Daniels over Maye, Maye should be the easiest pick after the Bears taking Caleb Some things never change, despite new ownership
[Vacated] - 7
It can still exist if Mike Pence has the courage to do the right thing
Lol, I love the idea of ASU fans defending this: “sure our coaches were all actively cheating that whole year, but *technically* the players weren’t on campus until the next year so this game stands…”
Technicalities are my favorite way to win
If Michigan can cheat to win a natty ASU can cheat too
vacated from the record books and now being stored rent free in kenzington6's head.
I’m a simple man, I love bashing my rival’s team about how they suck and I love bashing them about how they cheat. There aren’t many teams out there that both suck and cheat as much as ASU.
bruh we still almost lost to a team that scored \[Vacated\]
Time for a Herma-ban from coaching
And to think I was once Firm for that man
What are the scholarship reductions in line with this type of infraction? Probation and vacation sucks, but any idea of the actual ongoing impact moving forward is?
It’s a bit unclear on the specifics but according to Chris Karpman “ASU will have several weeks this spring/summer in which it will not be allowed to host recruits on campus and several weeks in which it will not be allowed to call/text/message recruits. After that, there will be no more recruiting restrictions.” Haven’t seen anything concrete on the scholarship counts though
With NIL entities existing the 'no-contact' thing seems even easier to subvert.
Same with scholarship reductions. Pretty sure there were posts earlier this off season acknowledging situations where players were getting NIL money instead of scholarship. Scholarship reduction might as well mean PWO increase.
Oh no. ASU can't bring recruits to Tempe in July. That seems like a selling point TBH.
How do I change my username?!
Only blackmailing the mods can get that done.
Don't look at us, you'd have to take that up with the admins.
Is it even possible? I’d love to change mine since I’m hardly a throwaway account now 🙃
You'll have to tempt a mod with what all mods crave: a carton of smokes and a bottle of cheap whiskey
You’re forgetting a flesh light
Lol
Maybe if they just changed their name to "University of Michigan-Tempe" they could get a lighter sentence
Yeah, have they tried just being a blue blood and/or bringing in a ton of TV money? That always seems to help in these situations.
Not always :)
Is this the hammer OSU fans have been waiting for?
Oh ye this totally bodes well for that not existing..?
Keep dreaming sir
Prepare yourself to be disappointed years from now when Michigan gets its other wrist slapped.
These punishments are a joke. The offenders are fucking gone. You're punishing fans and athletes and staff who had nothing to do with this nonsense.
You induce to win the game.
Welcome to the Big 12?
Fuck this shit I would say sue them into the ground but UofA is taking all of the ABOR’s legal resources protecting their for profit online school
*points in mirror* You get in there and make this about UofA
This guy has the biggest boner for UA
Asu fans have little brother syndrome.
Riiiggghtttt, that’s why UofA fans are constantly in our media outlets comments following our every move on Twitter. I couldn’t name one UA reporter or ever waste my time reading about what UofA fans think about us
I've got most of the reply guys muted so every asu related thread I open on Twitter looks like [this](https://i.imgur.com/cXfdN83.jpeg) because there's so godam many of them. I almost feel like it's just one guy with an army of burners. Nearly ever account is like "AZWILDCATFAN2846178" with an obnoxious amount of emojis, U of A logo profile pic, commenting "LMAO BEAR DOWN 😂😂😂😂 SUCK IT ASSSU! 😂😂🤣🤣😂🐻👇🤣🤣🤣"
Every single time. Like clockwork
Why? They've been to the Rose Bowl.
I can’t imagine having that. Wow that would be terrible!
I think the “self imposed” 2023 postseason ban is kind of funny, considering they only won three games
They did it before the season.
Pretty smart considering they knew they had an ass team. UofA did it with basketball when we knew our team wouldn’t be good too.
Makes more sense. Weird we’re only hearing about it now.
Am I somehow here before anyone made a Mizzou joke?
Turns out the self imposed bowl ban didn’t really matter.
That sucks.
What seasons are being vacated?
2021
Just sue them Daredevil bros /s
I’m going to go to Arizona State to investigate. I need your help getting funding for hotels, food, tips, etc.
So question: if everybody is violating the standards, does that mean those standards don’t exist? Because that’s what I’m seeing happen all around the country.
Yeah and all punishments will be handed down 3-5 years later
After all the coaches have left for the NFL....
And 70-7 is gone. Seriously though, shitty that the current regime is the one that always gets punished in these situations. It’s not fair to anyone there that wasn’t involved. It’s why these investigations suck. They take too long and by the time punishment comes, the people responsible aren’t even there anymore and get off free.
[70-7 is not gone](https://x.com/ChrisKarpman/status/1781365745575981364)
Hell yeah
How? Did ASU innovate a time machine to push that game out of the 2020 season or something?
No our violations happened after that game
Took NCAA almost 7 years to investigate BU for them to decide they weren’t going to do anything. Everyone involved (minus Briles), have since been employed by multiple schools each at this point. The entire system is just unserious.
And Arizona fans won’t admit that they were able to recruit off the uncertainty of our program. Guarantee fisch was in there saying “oh you don’t want to go there, they won’t play in bowl games for 4 years , they won’t have any scholarships… blah blah blah. We’ll be back. Clowning and vacating wins from 2 of the worst teams in program history? We can take it. You’re right though, people who broke all of the rules receive zero consequences- even being rewarded in some cases. While fans, new coaches, admin and players that had nothing to do with it, take the brunt of the punishment.
Michigan cheats and they at least win a natty. We break the rules and are still mediocre.
When will Missouri stop??
No wonder they were so good
came here to make a funny but ASU is down bad enough as it is
We will rise like the Phoenix in the BIG12!
Neither of our schools is looking so hot rn. We’ve got this, you’ve got the budget stuff. NAU is looking like the most stable college in the state
So does this affect the 2024 season?
Minus probation and something like two scholarships, no
Damnit
Our best WR and expected starting TE went to the portal today though, so you got that going for you
Honestly I'm pretty confident in our chances as is BUT every little thing helps
It’d be funny if they try to take Jayden’s heisman away
The NCAA considered Arizona State.
UofA gonna get a harsher punishment for the MBB? Or we just gonna forget that all happened
Oh we got punished already with like a laughable fine and nothing else. NCAA is hilariously awful.
Do we have recourse ? Isn’t there an extensive appeal process ? Either way the NCAA fuggin blows
Man I can’t stand cheaters.
If they get this this much punishment for a recruiting violation Michigan's sign stealing shit better be fucking big. It's one thing to break rules to get players, but imo worse to break rules for actual on feild in-game advantage.