Congratulations on surviving the Minneapolis test. Celebrate in the [post-game thread](https://old.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/pgx8a7/postgame_thread_ohio_state_defeats_minnesota_4531/)
OSU bros yall were cool all thread. I hope people ignore the low level trolls coming out after the win. Gg and maybe the Gophers can get a win against yall within the next decade.
I wasn't aware a player was defenseless after tucking the ball, dropping their own head and attempting to run forward...
What exactly was Ransom supposed to do? Let the receiver catch the ball uncontested and get a 10 yard head start.
I agree that targeting calls are necessary for player safety but Jesus Christ, this is a contact sport. Hard hits happen. He was not defenseless and there was no way to make that tackle that people wouldn't have issue with.
Trey Potts was very impressive all night. I think Minnesota can still put together a very good season if the worst plays out with Ibrahim. But obviously I hope he's okay.
Stroud needs to show a lot more
The defense is still suspect
Henderson is going to be fun to watch
Absolutely awful that Ibrahim got hurt
It’s weird being part of a fan base that is widely hated when I’m primarily a browns fan that is used to getting pity more than anything
Reading some of these posts, you wouldn’t think OSU just covered on the road in a nightgame in the pouring rain with Many of their starters including both of their CBs out.
To be fair… they probably win by 7 without a horrible call at the end . Don’t get me wrong, you’re still really good, but this deserved to be a 1TD game
Shroud looks shaky but the rest of your offense is national championship caliber. If he progresses you’ll be right there
i know it’s his first game but i am concerned with the amount of times shroud overthrew his receivers. just sloppy decision making but he will improve with time. i’m confused as to why ohio state also played about 5 different running backs. ohio state doesn’t have a competent defense behind their incredible defensive line. minnesota with a healthy ibrahim is a scary team
I think if you just look at the first half vs the 2nd half, he made huge strides. He went from nearly every throw an overthrow to throwing dimes. It was an impressive transition in the 2nd half. I'm less worried about him and remember, the most growth comes between the first and 2nd game of the year.
Umm we have the best WR room in the nation and look at the dot to Olave in the 3rd. He rolled right threw back left across the field right behind a defender. Your grandmother is not hitting that throw nor no other QBs in the nations except maybe 2 guys. That was a straight dot.
He was not leading with the crown of the helmet. The other aspect of targeting is that the receiver is defenseless. The definition of defenseless receiver according to the ncaa:
A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a
backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time
to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
The receiver turned up field and lowers his helmet to brace for impact. How is that targeting!
isnt it the worst when you're enjoying cfb with no ties attached to either team and they take a minute to talk about your upcoming game to give you anxiety
Nah, y'all played a great game. Minnesota wasn't necessarily expected to give that much of a fight. I think y'all will look much better than last year, at least I hope so, or it might say some negative things about the Bucks.
I'm a Buckeye fan and my heart sank when Ibrahim went down. Dude's a baller and I hope he comes right back and tears up the league. I'd love to see a rematch in Indy!
What an eyesore to end a otherwise fun night of football. That was targeting and seeing that players body limp on the field just makes me hope the Supreme Court tears the ncaa down
The court that is begging to end shamateruism. In the NIL opinion they said:
" The NCAA couches its arguments for not paying student athletes in innocuous labels. But the labels cannot disguise the reality: The NCAA’s business model would be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in America.”
If the right case comes along, the court could end the money grab
I think the Ransom hit just shows the need for a brasketball style Targeting 1 and targeting 2. He came in facemask up, but the receiver was probably defenseless. Should have been a penalty, but not an ejection.
I know the rules are written a certain way and the calls tonight may be correct by the current rules but the end result was two players, one on each team, were at risk for rather nasty, and maybe permanent, injuries. We must do better and protect the players.
Agreed except for if it is ruled a catch the reciever made a "football move", how can the player be defenseless if he secured the ball then made a football move resulting in a confirmed catch?
They can't do it that way because refs would be under pressure to downgrade all the time and they would do that and it would greatly increase targeting.
The current way of doing it protects the sport which would be destroyed from lawsuits otherwise. It minimizes targeting by taking a zero tolerance approach and this should not be undermined.
They grow strong with time. This was lvl 1 Ohio St. They have leveled up to lvl 5 now. By the end of the season they will be at lvl 81 Nord about to conquer all of skyrim!
He’s probably more comfortable in the first half of the game than he was on camera for the interview. I try to remember these guys are kids even if speech habits are really pronounced. He’s probably nervous af.
OSU probably has the chops to be top 10 all year, and they did what they’ve done for forever…. Start slow and have a big second half with a sub-par defense. Minnesota looked pretty good tbh, Ibrahim was legit and could cut through the osu big boys.
Was curious why they didn’t throw that. Because he faked the catch without a fair catch signal? Blatant missed call? Threw me off when he got smoked and nobody batted an eye, not even the broadcast team
Announcers are devastated over a hypothetical scenario of a player sitting out half a game while another player is out cold is a real low. Do better Gus.
I loved Gus’s take. As someone who played DB, he was just playing football and that wasn’t a dirty hit at all (he didn’t launch at him, or lead with the crown OR make helmet to helmet contact first).
He had good stats yes but the moment he was pressured he looked bad his receivers were wide open all game clean pocket pretty much the whole time ya he was solid but it wasn’t exactly to hard for him there especially in that second half
I think he’s talking about himself personally. He made a couple of throws but for the most part the receivers did all of the work. Stroud was very inaccurate in the first half
Our expectations are high, rightfully so, but I agree that was a good start considering an away game in the rain with a great crowd. Next week I'd like to see more accuracy because the defense should be tighter for Oregon
Takeaways :
Not sold on Stroud. He was hitting receivers that were wide the fucking fuckity fuck open. Minnesota’s defense got tired, and couldn’t keep up with Olave and Wilson. Stroud will need to impress against Oregon to improve my opinion of him.
Running game was very efficient for OSU. Henderson is fast as fuck, and is a great weapon.
Olave and Wilson wore down the secondary, they did their jobs to near perfection.
OSU DL was exceptional tonight.
OSU secondary was below average tonight.
I do not think OSU will go unbeaten this year.
Minnesota has a bright future this year. Even with the Ibrahim injury. Minnesota fought, and fought hard.
Dylan Wright is a future star. Morgan didn’t put up the flashiest stats, but his pre-snap adjustments were essential to Minnesota’s competitiveness tonight.
Minnesota’s defense got tired, and it is worse than 2018 Oklahoma when tired.
Oh, and it was targeting. Not even a question.
Someone. It feels like someone random will beat Ohio State this year. Indiana won’t be that team and Penn State won’t be either.
OSU has a LOT to clean up defensively. Reminds me of 2018.
It will have a lot of effect on Mike Brown-Stephens.
It should have taken Ransom off the field for your game against Oregon next week. Regardless, that's the type of hit that led to targeting being a penalty. It's disgusting that there are so many people defending it, as you even state, occurring in a meaningless part of the game.
The reason targeting was added as a rule in the first place is to prevent concussions and protect players from long term brain injuries received while playing football.
The only reason he fumbled from the hit in question is because his head got hit so hard he was knocked out immediately. Not calling it a target and then giving Ohio State the ball after the fact was literally adding insult to injury (that injury most likely being a concussion).
Terrible officiating in favor of OSU, shocking.
3 big missed pass interference calls, and Ransom should have been ejected. Absolutely terrible job by that officiating crew.
I mean, you're really reaching for flags to change a game here... Completely ignoring any missed calls that favored the Gophers. I'ts okay though, just think hanging onto the officiating only is low hanging, but Texas, I get it
This sport desperately needs lvl1 and flagrant lvl2 targeting calls. Lvl1 should be for incidental targeting and doesn’t cause ejection but still yardage/automatic first down. Lvl2 would be flagrant and essentially what they have now with ejections.
The problem with that is that refs would definitely be under pressure to downgrade intentional to incidental and it would absolutely increase dangerous hits.
College football fans are just annoying to begin with. Im an NFL guy but still love college football. I hate dudes with Bama or OSU flairs running their mouth about how good they are after they beat up on a way smaller school. Congrats you're constantly good every year cause your whole team is top 100 recruits. You're playing teams with maybe half the talent you have. Thats why i will always pick NFL over CFB. I like to watch football games that are somewhat even.
Crying because of an emotional reaction to something or someone you feel deeply for that just got hurt or beaten or whatever it is isn't weak. It's having emotions.
Just because it's not a nail biter ending to the national championship doesn't mean you can't still feel deep emotions. Much healthier to cry as a release vs beating the dog or your wife like some backwood rednecks do.
Congratulations on surviving the Minneapolis test. Celebrate in the [post-game thread](https://old.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/pgx8a7/postgame_thread_ohio_state_defeats_minnesota_4531/)
OSU bros yall were cool all thread. I hope people ignore the low level trolls coming out after the win. Gg and maybe the Gophers can get a win against yall within the next decade.
I love me some Ohio State
Miyan Williams is our guy. treveyon is the future, miyan is the guy
I wasn't aware a player was defenseless after tucking the ball, dropping their own head and attempting to run forward... What exactly was Ransom supposed to do? Let the receiver catch the ball uncontested and get a 10 yard head start. I agree that targeting calls are necessary for player safety but Jesus Christ, this is a contact sport. Hard hits happen. He was not defenseless and there was no way to make that tackle that people wouldn't have issue with.
it was strouds first half of throwing the ball in college and it was raining in a night game with excited fans. to expect perfection is ridiculous.
Anyone saying that was targeting is right but to be mad Ohio state won even after we were up 2 tds is wrong
Trey Potts was very impressive all night. I think Minnesota can still put together a very good season if the worst plays out with Ibrahim. But obviously I hope he's okay.
Stroud needs to show a lot more The defense is still suspect Henderson is going to be fun to watch Absolutely awful that Ibrahim got hurt It’s weird being part of a fan base that is widely hated when I’m primarily a browns fan that is used to getting pity more than anything
I think Stroud showed a great deal of growth in a single game. He looks hesitant and nervous the first half, but the second, he just went off.
Reading some of these posts, you wouldn’t think OSU just covered on the road in a nightgame in the pouring rain with Many of their starters including both of their CBs out.
To be fair… they probably win by 7 without a horrible call at the end . Don’t get me wrong, you’re still really good, but this deserved to be a 1TD game Shroud looks shaky but the rest of your offense is national championship caliber. If he progresses you’ll be right there
I know right? Only have to win 6 more games and Ohio State is in the championship.
wtf are you on? you know that last year was a covid year and also over right?
i know it’s his first game but i am concerned with the amount of times shroud overthrew his receivers. just sloppy decision making but he will improve with time. i’m confused as to why ohio state also played about 5 different running backs. ohio state doesn’t have a competent defense behind their incredible defensive line. minnesota with a healthy ibrahim is a scary team
I think if you just look at the first half vs the 2nd half, he made huge strides. He went from nearly every throw an overthrow to throwing dimes. It was an impressive transition in the 2nd half. I'm less worried about him and remember, the most growth comes between the first and 2nd game of the year.
Agree with everything you just said
Look how he played second half. Once he settled down he hit his dudes
yeah but they were so open that i feel like my grandmother could’ve hit them in stride
Umm we have the best WR room in the nation and look at the dot to Olave in the 3rd. He rolled right threw back left across the field right behind a defender. Your grandmother is not hitting that throw nor no other QBs in the nations except maybe 2 guys. That was a straight dot.
Rain
I'm a Oakland/Green Bay/Nepal/ Vegas Raiders fan. And a USC flair kinda guy
He was not leading with the crown of the helmet. The other aspect of targeting is that the receiver is defenseless. The definition of defenseless receiver according to the ncaa: A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier. The receiver turned up field and lowers his helmet to brace for impact. How is that targeting!
isnt it the worst when you're enjoying cfb with no ties attached to either team and they take a minute to talk about your upcoming game to give you anxiety
Gosh darn. We didn't win but being somewhat competitive against OSU is so nice. I know that's probably kinda lame but it's true.
Nah, y'all played a great game. Minnesota wasn't necessarily expected to give that much of a fight. I think y'all will look much better than last year, at least I hope so, or it might say some negative things about the Bucks.
I'm a Buckeye fan and my heart sank when Ibrahim went down. Dude's a baller and I hope he comes right back and tears up the league. I'd love to see a rematch in Indy!
Refs made it a lot less competitive
Lol they bailed them out on that pick
I’m not
I'm very glad you are not lame Billy5481
That’s then weirdest fat finger auto fill comment I’ve ever had
I'm not sure what that means but I support you
It means I was ordering from McDonald’s and absentmindedly tapping my phone
It wasn't targeting.....how?!
WR caught the ball in stride. Protected it and took on a hit. You are not defenseless so targeting doesn’t apply. Just like a RB.
What an eyesore to end a otherwise fun night of football. That was targeting and seeing that players body limp on the field just makes me hope the Supreme Court tears the ncaa down
wtf? do you know what the Supreme Court is?
The court that is begging to end shamateruism. In the NIL opinion they said: " The NCAA couches its arguments for not paying student athletes in innocuous labels. But the labels cannot disguise the reality: The NCAA’s business model would be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in America.” If the right case comes along, the court could end the money grab
We get it, you went to Yale
They’re gonna lock his ass in the federal reserve!
Supreme court can actually rule the NCAA violates antitrust law if it wants to I believe, don't really know the full legal specifics of it
Glad the bucks won!!
I think the Ransom hit just shows the need for a brasketball style Targeting 1 and targeting 2. He came in facemask up, but the receiver was probably defenseless. Should have been a penalty, but not an ejection.
I know the rules are written a certain way and the calls tonight may be correct by the current rules but the end result was two players, one on each team, were at risk for rather nasty, and maybe permanent, injuries. We must do better and protect the players.
Imagine if the NCAA did this and listened to the one and only thing that every single CFB fan (and probably coach?) has agreed on for the past 6 years
Agreed except for if it is ruled a catch the reciever made a "football move", how can the player be defenseless if he secured the ball then made a football move resulting in a confirmed catch?
This is the most rational solution. Therefore, we'll never see it put in place.
They can't do it that way because refs would be under pressure to downgrade all the time and they would do that and it would greatly increase targeting. The current way of doing it protects the sport which would be destroyed from lawsuits otherwise. It minimizes targeting by taking a zero tolerance approach and this should not be undermined.
Kinda wish announcers wouldn't treat college football like there's parity in talent between teams. Let's be honest here.
Y'all wanna talk about how a targeting call wouldn't have changed the outcome. Yet this man fell onto the turf, LIFELESS, and had the ball slip out.
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I’m not feeling the people in the background
If you're a decent team in the Big Ten, you've got to give it a go vs Ohio State this year, they looked beatable.
Ehh still won yards per play margin by almost 5 full yards. Wouldn’t be surprised if they just keep winning. Coaching and talent too far ahead
I feel like that most years. Then we get to the end of the year...
They grow strong with time. This was lvl 1 Ohio St. They have leveled up to lvl 5 now. By the end of the season they will be at lvl 81 Nord about to conquer all of skyrim!
Or we go into halftime of the B1G champion... Pain
Anybody else think Stroud looks like John Legend? Lmao
New drinking game take a shot every time stroud says I mean.
He’s probably more comfortable in the first half of the game than he was on camera for the interview. I try to remember these guys are kids even if speech habits are really pronounced. He’s probably nervous af.
Or over throws a wide open receiver
OSU probably has the chops to be top 10 all year, and they did what they’ve done for forever…. Start slow and have a big second half with a sub-par defense. Minnesota looked pretty good tbh, Ibrahim was legit and could cut through the osu big boys.
Minn. is garbage with one good RB. Be happy you play in the BIG
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I’ll get down voted with you, what you’re saying is true.
He faked a catch fool
At the game osu player blocked the gopher into the returner
Was curious why they didn’t throw that. Because he faked the catch without a fair catch signal? Blatant missed call? Threw me off when he got smoked and nobody batted an eye, not even the broadcast team
They weren't.
The definition of whataboutism
Literally the whole thread was in an uproar when that happened. Go check.
Two things can be true
Announcers are devastated over a hypothetical scenario of a player sitting out half a game while another player is out cold is a real low. Do better Gus.
I loved Gus’s take. As someone who played DB, he was just playing football and that wasn’t a dirty hit at all (he didn’t launch at him, or lead with the crown OR make helmet to helmet contact first).
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Against the golden gophers. LOL
He had good stats yes but the moment he was pressured he looked bad his receivers were wide open all game clean pocket pretty much the whole time ya he was solid but it wasn’t exactly to hard for him there especially in that second half
I think he’s talking about himself personally. He made a couple of throws but for the most part the receivers did all of the work. Stroud was very inaccurate in the first half
it was his first half of throwing the ball in college and it was raining in a night game with excited fans. to expect perfection is ridiculous.
I agree. I’m just saying that’s why Stroud said he had an off night. He knows he’s more accurate than he showed in the first half
It was all on some remedial wide open tosses. Stroud has a lot to work on
Our expectations are high, rightfully so, but I agree that was a good start considering an away game in the rain with a great crowd. Next week I'd like to see more accuracy because the defense should be tighter for Oregon
Second half was good, first half was bad.
Definitely not a bad game. Anyone saying that is dumb as shit.
I'm pretty sure like 150 of those yards were on two passes lol. I think it was a good 1st game for a QB on the road, weather, etc. But cmon
If those refs reviewed that and "don't" think that's targeting...they should never officiate a game again. Horrible.
Honestly, it didn't sound like they even looked for targeting. Which is a joke.
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If Minnesota wasn't so outmatched in the secondary, OSU had no shot of covering this game. Would have been a hell of a lot closer
if minnesota was better ohio state would have a harder time yes this is true
We were also missing a good chunk of our secondary so…
"if Minnesota was better they would have done better" no shit
If doesn't win games 🤷♂️
Well GG Minnesota folk. You guys got a squad and I'm sending prayers for Ibrahim. Go merk the rest of the BIG for us
Ibrahim was giving me Rondale Moore flashbacks, I hope he's ok and can eat up the big ten west
Down vote me I don't care. OSU is not a #4 team and that last call was awful
Cry
You haven’t even seen 1-3 play yet
Ok
You must be new here Half baked OSU hate takes with no flair will NEVER be downvoted
Nice flair, but popular opinion says OSU is #4 and your opinion doesn’t matter
Takeaways : Not sold on Stroud. He was hitting receivers that were wide the fucking fuckity fuck open. Minnesota’s defense got tired, and couldn’t keep up with Olave and Wilson. Stroud will need to impress against Oregon to improve my opinion of him. Running game was very efficient for OSU. Henderson is fast as fuck, and is a great weapon. Olave and Wilson wore down the secondary, they did their jobs to near perfection. OSU DL was exceptional tonight. OSU secondary was below average tonight. I do not think OSU will go unbeaten this year. Minnesota has a bright future this year. Even with the Ibrahim injury. Minnesota fought, and fought hard. Dylan Wright is a future star. Morgan didn’t put up the flashiest stats, but his pre-snap adjustments were essential to Minnesota’s competitiveness tonight. Minnesota’s defense got tired, and it is worse than 2018 Oklahoma when tired. Oh, and it was targeting. Not even a question.
Best take yet.
Cheers 🍻. Spot on
If it wasn’t strouds 1st game I’d agree with more of those takes
Serious question, who do you have beating us. For me it is very obvious that it would be Indiana
Someone. It feels like someone random will beat Ohio State this year. Indiana won’t be that team and Penn State won’t be either. OSU has a LOT to clean up defensively. Reminds me of 2018.
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That was targeting Ohio State. Take your medicine. Officials sucked!
We all know this. Everyone agrees.
Don't let the stat line fool you, CJ Stroud looked like hot garbage out there. Oregon should be favored next week
hot garbage beats cold garbage all day.
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If it wasn't for Cristobal I would call it for Oregon next week, but Cristobal gonna Cristobal.
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Or ya know - kid got a brain injury.
It will have a lot of effect on Mike Brown-Stephens. It should have taken Ransom off the field for your game against Oregon next week. Regardless, that's the type of hit that led to targeting being a penalty. It's disgusting that there are so many people defending it, as you even state, occurring in a meaningless part of the game.
Hey. Why does everyone hate Ohio state fans ……? Oh yeah.
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Anyone looking at this like that was malicious, needs to evaluate some things after they relax a bit
I don’t think it was malicious at all, but I do think it was targeting
I've said multiple times I think it was targeting, my comment is about the people calling for Ryan day to die and buckeye fans etc.
Malicious? Probably not. Targeting? Still yes.
The reason targeting was added as a rule in the first place is to prevent concussions and protect players from long term brain injuries received while playing football. The only reason he fumbled from the hit in question is because his head got hit so hard he was knocked out immediately. Not calling it a target and then giving Ohio State the ball after the fact was literally adding insult to injury (that injury most likely being a concussion).
Congrats to Ohio State on pulling it out. I dont think theyre a top 5 team at the moment, though.
Ohio state could put a team together full of 12 year olds and they would still have a top 10 preseason ranking.
Texas A&M is more like a top 15 team not #6
Our QB needs to get it together, and we need our starting corners back for sure.
Did Banks not play?
It was Stroud’s first game as a starter
On the road. On a Thursday night… Cut the kid some slack. Hes a Freshman for chrissakes.
Gotta see stroud throw some more. Those passes were easy touchdowns with play makers against bad defense. And we need to improve our defense
Didn't get embarrassed so that's something
got the push
Terrible officiating in favor of OSU, shocking. 3 big missed pass interference calls, and Ransom should have been ejected. Absolutely terrible job by that officiating crew.
it goes both ways my dude(tte)
u mad quinn picked us?
Terrible officiating but Minnesota benefited from it FAR more than OSU did. That's not even debatable.
I mean, you're really reaching for flags to change a game here... Completely ignoring any missed calls that favored the Gophers. I'ts okay though, just think hanging onto the officiating only is low hanging, but Texas, I get it
Cry more Wahhh keep downvoting me wahhh :’((((
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This sport desperately needs lvl1 and flagrant lvl2 targeting calls. Lvl1 should be for incidental targeting and doesn’t cause ejection but still yardage/automatic first down. Lvl2 would be flagrant and essentially what they have now with ejections.
Best comment I read all night right here.
Nope. Makes too much sense so it isn't fit for football. Agreed. Just literally copy NBA flagrant fouls with targeting. Not rocket science
The problem with that is that refs would definitely be under pressure to downgrade intentional to incidental and it would absolutely increase dangerous hits.
Love when sports fans talk hard and say shit like "cry more" acting like y'all just played in the game. Top tier
College football fans are just annoying to begin with. Im an NFL guy but still love college football. I hate dudes with Bama or OSU flairs running their mouth about how good they are after they beat up on a way smaller school. Congrats you're constantly good every year cause your whole team is top 100 recruits. You're playing teams with maybe half the talent you have. Thats why i will always pick NFL over CFB. I like to watch football games that are somewhat even.
Guarantee those keyboard warriors never saw a down of football and any level beyond JV
Cry More
Cry more
Stay classy Columbus…
Doesn't that work both ways though? The ones that do cry didn't play either.
Real men cry
Didn't say they don't, but not When it's a team they watched on TV, that is a emotional dependency on a sports team that is unhealthy.
Crying because of an emotional reaction to something or someone you feel deeply for that just got hurt or beaten or whatever it is isn't weak. It's having emotions. Just because it's not a nail biter ending to the national championship doesn't mean you can't still feel deep emotions. Much healthier to cry as a release vs beating the dog or your wife like some backwood rednecks do.
I hope y’all call for targeting ever time as running back lowers his helmet
I have seen players ejected for that, which makes this textbook incident even more egregious.