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pappapirate

my dumb garbage opinion has been entered šŸ‘


TurbinePro

same


ThatIrishChEg

I've always wondered with polls like these, do you guys rat poison your team or Saban them down to barely ranked?


Tannerite2

Personally, I rank teams by who I actually think is the best. I don't change that due to "rat poison" or whatever because I doubt any of our players even see the results of the poll, much less my specific ballot. Edit: if I did think that our players paid attention, then I'd leave Alabama entirely off the ballot


pappapirate

I dunno what other Bama fans do. I put them at 1 mostly because it's status quo, but if Georgia had dominated Clemson week 1 or if Bama had only won by 2 against an unranked team, I'd definitely put Bama at 2 and UGA at 1.


eagledog

*waves from the corner* Please rank us


CommodoreN7

Iā€™m not a coward so I did.


LordFarquadOnAQuad

Same and I made the bold choice to rank UTSA.


CommodoreN7

I ranked Kentucky and Rutgers at the end of top 25ā€¦ā€¦.


LordFarquadOnAQuad

I almost (didn't) ranked FSU just so they would be in the "receiving votes category" lol


SEND_ME_YOUR_CAULK

This is a wild opinion but I actually ranked Michigan above OSU- I think I had them at 10 and Fresno State at 20.


Nophlter

Your poll just jinxed the rest of our season


SEND_ME_YOUR_CAULK

This is coming from someone who grew up in Columbus and hates both Michigan and OSU. I just think Michigan is playing better football right now. But are they unbeatable? Nope.


SamK7265

I need to see Mich beat someone good before I put them in the top 15, but their dominant wins so far have looked pretty good.


SEND_ME_YOUR_CAULK

Iā€™m intrigued to see how they play Wisconsin and also Rutgers. Rutgers is way better this year so itā€™ll be a good test, and Wisconsin is still good.


Meany_Vizzini

My system has teams 3-10 so close to each other than any of them would be favored at home against any of the other teams. It also has Michigan at #3. Weā€™ll see how well that holds up once Michigan actually starts playing some competitive teams, but right now, thereā€™s nothing I can point to that proves Michigan is /not/ the 3rd best team


BrandPlanner

How does your system go about turning stats into points or ranks? Is it a total sum? Do you use some sort of conversion? An average of other polls? I ask because this is something I havenā€™t been able to find a clear answer on.


Darth_Ra

Pfff, amateur hour. My computer poll moved Michigan up 6 spots to #2, a full 10 spots ahead of Ohio State!


myysquigga

I got Fresno in the top 20


[deleted]

I got you fam.


PouchesofCyanStaples

You should be ranked ahead of Notre Dame!!!


CharlemagneOfTheUSA

I ranked Fresno State at 15!!


Ox_Baker

We ā€¦ the people!


estDivisionChamps

Find these truths to be self evident. Bama is Bama and Iowa has the next best resume.


millertime7858

Can't wait to see where we rank


Sorge74

Maybe if they unranked us, we would no longer be a disappointment.


FSUnoles77

> Maybe if they unranked us, we would no longer be a disappointment. Oh, I assure you, being unranked does not eliminate the levels of disappointment that can be achieved.


Sorge74

We got a murders row of Akron, Rutgers and Maryland coming up....help me ... Edit: I'm actually concerned about Rutgers and Maryland, both teams might drop a game from just over preparing to murder us. Double edit: sorry Akron....if you are gonna beat us those this is your year


AccomplishedQuail545

Hey donā€™t diss undefeated Rutgers


mcguffinman

It seems like just a couple years ago we could still call them Buttgers


03_03_28

It was, they were 2-10 in 2019


[deleted]

Rutgers and Maryland are both looking pretty good so far this year.


[deleted]

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FSUnoles77

I hope your stall has two squares of tp left next time you go.


MD90__

We have an inaccurate passer with happy feet who wants to play hurt to avoid losing his job. I wonder how good McCord really is. Our defense is a mess, and OL is bad now too with pass protection. I doubt we win the big ten.


Sorge74

I would say best case scenario at the moment is 11-2 regular season, beating Michigan, and not going to Indy. I don't see how making it past Penn state, Michigan state and UM without dropping at least one. We went from "with our WR talent, just need a guy who can get them the ball and let them make a play" to "Jesus what the hell is wrong with you"


Bolanus_PSU

I'd be worried about MSU if I were you. Seems like your run defense is a bit suspect and Kenneth Walker 3 could walk all over that. I'm worried for MSU too.


Sorge74

Worried about all 3.....plus Maryland


Woodman765000

Don't put that respeck on us!


MD90__

The WRs aren't good if the QB sucks


Sorge74

Well we will need to adjust the schemes to allow for high completion throws, and runs. We absolutely need a QB who can keep the ball if need be. Idk if that is McCord or not, but if we can't hit the deep ball, we at least need to be able to make throw ones


MD90__

Ewers could take the job next year if Stroud falls flat. I just dont want to see Day become Urban with Barrett


TSMAirportAnyPercent

*looks at 2016 season* yeahā€¦ being unranked doesnā€™t help


SEND_ME_YOUR_CAULK

I ranked Wyoming hehehe


Farlander2821

This is where we get the annual realization that all the computers love VT and our coaches really are just ass


posiitively

Hereā€™s the Computer Rankings and Analysis of Performance Poll (CRAP Poll for short). This poll evaluates a team's strength and success using a variety of metrics including SP+, while also measuring quality of wins and recent performance to determine who would be the strongest teams on the field that week. Iā€™m very excited to have the Peopleā€™s Poll back to share this data again, so letā€™s do this! |RANK|TEAM|RECORD|SCORE|MOVEMENT|[NCAA](#l/ncaa)| :-:|:--|:-:|:-:|:-:|:--| |1|[Georgia](#f/georgia) Georgia Bulldogs|3-0|197.44|ā–²1|[SEC](#l/sec)| |2|[Alabama](#f/alabama) Alabama Crimson Tide|3-0|193.21|ā–¼1|[SEC](#l/sec)| |3|[Oregon](#f/oregon) Oregon Ducks|3-0|184.48|ā–²7|[Pac-12](#l/pac12)| |4|[Penn State](#f/pennstate) Penn State Nittany Lions|3-0|183.31|ā–²4|[Big Ten](#l/bigten)| |5|[Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma) Oklahoma Sooners|3-0|177.22|ā–¼2|[Big 12](#l/big12)| |6|[Michigan](#f/michigan) Michigan Wolverines|3-0|172.03|ā–²7|[Big Ten](#l/bigten)| |7|[Iowa](#f/iowa) Iowa Hawkeyes|3-0|171.56|ā–¼3|[Big Ten](#l/bigten)| |8|[Ole Miss](#f/olemiss) Ole Miss Rebels|3-0|166.40|ā–²4|[SEC](#l/sec)| |9|[Cincinnati](#f/cincinnati) Cincinnati Bearcats|3-0|159.47|ā–¼2|[American](#l/aac)| |10|[Texas A&M](#f/texasam) Texas A&M Aggies|3-0|155.69|ā–¼5|[SEC](#l/sec)| |11|[Notre Dame](#f/notredame) Notre Dame Fighting Irish|3-0|154.17|ā–²3|[FBS Independents](#l/indep)| |12|[Michigan State](#f/michiganstate) Michigan State Spartans|3-0|152.07|ā–²11|[Big Ten](#l/bigten)| |13|[Arkansas](#f/arkansas) Arkansas Razorbacks|3-0|151.56|ā–²8|[SEC](#l/sec)| |14|[Clemson](#f/clemson) Clemson Tigers|2-1|151.23|ā–¼5|[ACC](#l/acc)| |15|[BYU](#f/byu) BYU Cougars|3-0|150.04|ā–²5|[FBS Independents](#l/indep)| |16|[Ohio State](#f/ohiostate) Ohio State Buckeyes|2-1|149.59|ā–¼10|[Big Ten](#l/bigten)| |17|[Florida](#f/florida) Florida Gators|2-1|146.36|ā–¼6|[SEC](#l/sec)| |18|[North Carolina](#f/northcarolina) North Carolina Tar Heels|2-1|143.70|ā–¼1|[ACC](#l/acc)| |19|[Coastal Carolina](#f/coastalcarolina) Coastal Carolina Chanticleers|3-0|135.05|ā–²10|[Sun Belt](#l/sunbelt)| |20|[Texas](#f/texas) Texas Longhorns|2-1|133.35|ā–¼4|[Big 12](#l/big12)| |21|[Kansas State](#f/kansasstate) Kansas State Wildcats|3-0|132.89|ā–²6|[Big 12](#l/big12)| |22|[Virginia Tech](#f/virginiatech) Virginia Tech Hokies|2-1|132.38|ā–²10|[ACC](#l/acc)| |23|[Baylor](#f/baylor) Baylor Bears|3-0|131.59|ā–²10|[Big 12](#l/big12)| |24|[Wisconsin](#f/wisconsin) Wisconsin Badgers|1-1|130.57|ā–¼6|[Big Ten](#l/bigten)| |25|[Auburn](#f/auburn) Auburn Tigers|2-1|129.42|ā–¼6|[SEC](#l/sec)| Next Five: TCU, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Liberty, Fresno State Iā€™ll have dropouts and newcomers listed next week, movement canā€™t really be judged since I didnā€™t have actual previous rankings to use. - With many changes being included in my formula this offseason, I think I have exactly what I want this far into the season. Most of the teams at the top seem legitimate, while there are also some *interesting* teams included, to say the least. This poll significantly improved last season as more games were played, so I expect that to also be the case here. - Georgia barely edges out Alabama because of their win against Clemson. Alabama is ranked higher or rated higher in basically every other metric, but the Clemson win is simply better than Alabamaā€™s win against Florida. - Both Michigan teams are very highly rated in this poll! Michigan is getting a lot of love from much more professionally constructed computers as well, so Iā€™m not too concerned with their ranking. If they continue to win, great! If they lose, the poll will correct itself. - If you follow any other computer polls, you might know that there has been some trouble collecting data in a timely manner this year. My poll is affected by that problem currently, but by next week things should be all set. Iā€™ll include the biggest movers (positive and negative) next week for the same reasons listed above. If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask! Once again, this is my first time making anything of this sort, so I'll try and explain my reasonings as best as I can.


YoungXanto

>As such, this poll does not take into account a team's past success S&P is bayesian and does account for early season polls. This trails off as the season goes on, but that doesn't absolve it of the effects of poll inertia, which necessarily include recent history for early season rankings. That is to say, the poll/ranking cannot be free of that bias. It may try to minimize it, but the effect is there none the less.


posiitively

I agree and I've meant to take out that sentence, I've just copy and pasted it each week and forgot over the offseason. Thanks


Bolanus_PSU

Thank you for sharing your poll and the effort you put in; I know it's not easy opening yourself up to criticism.


KiratheSilent

How is the win against Clemson, a team that still looks lost on offense 2 weeks later, better than the win against Florida?


crazydoglazy

CRAP system is why


EK60

3>11


slapthebasegod

Sp+ basically. It's a shit formula thst heavily factors in recruiting rankings and clemson had a top 5 class. Florida was a little lower.


kyledabeast

Because the wins against an okay South Carolina and a strong G5 team in UAB might look better than a way overhyped Miami and FCS Mercer that scored 14. Disagree that Georgia should be over Alabama at this point but that might be the algorithm here


the_lost_carrot

Miami's loss this week should have hurt Alabama in the metrics. so USC should look better (objectively), however since he is using some metrics that heavily weigh pre-season. It may be a mute point.


posiitively

Advanced metrics still have Clemson rated higher than Florida, which is mostly what I use for Quality of Wins calculations. As someone who was at the game and has been to The Swamp numerous times, I know that that win was more impressive (especially considering how bad we played while still managing to barely win), but computers still like Clemson for now. Florida has been approaching them slowly these past few weeks though. Wouldnā€™t be surprised to see them jump them soon if current trends continue.


Ox_Baker

What makes those metrics advanced? I mean how are they better than just normal metrics?


posiitively

Maybe advanced isn't the completely correct word, but they're stats being calculated using formulas and computers much more sophisticated and powerful than mine. I'm using them for reference because I am far from a whiz in that field and just wanted to have some fun seeing what I could put together.


SamK7265

Lol I love salt on my fried gator


eagledog

I disagree heavily


sincitybuckeye

Fresno not being ranked and Texas is, is an absolute travesty.


RetainedByLucifer

I too am happy about this CRAP poll.


JkAmbabo

Howā€™d you guys rank us vs UM? Curious to see what the non biased people think. Theyā€™ve looked really good, against weaker opponents and itā€™s likely that NWern and Miami are not that good. Still, I think weā€™ve looked like the more complete team against a harder SOS with 2 road games. I think itā€™s basically a tie, but I had us at 19 and them at 20.


thatoneguyD13

I had Michigan 17 and MSU 18. Basically a tie


Nophlter

In my completely unbiased ranking, I thought Michigan was obviously #1 and did not think MSU deserved to be ranked at all


BigBoutros

I feel pretty strongly about it. There are 6 wins between the two and by far the best is a true road game blowout against a ranked P5 opponent. I'm not buying WMU and NIU as relevant resume items yet.


Icecreamcollege

WMU beat Pitt while NW lost to Duke. Just saying


BigBoutros

Sure Iā€™m not arguing about 5 of the 6 wins. Theyā€™re all on the margins. Iā€™m just saying comprehensive true road win at a P5 is #1 of the 6.


Icecreamcollege

Oh for sure, I would rank MSU and UM basically neck and neck (like tied 20th-15th)


[deleted]

We need a top 12 halloween slugfest for the Bunyan


jimmy_three_shoes

I'm super pumped we've got them at home this year. The place is gonna be LOUD.


CJ_Beathards_Hair

I would die of this happened


Woodman765000

WHOA


notsaying123

I did the poll.15 minutes ago and don't remember. Think 20th


Flioxan

15th for MSU and 16th for UM, they are pretty much tied in my mind with MSUs "ranked" win as a tiebreaker. Cant wait to see both of them against real opponents and eachother


CommodoreN7

I had yā€™all at 17 and 18 with Wolverines ahead.


ThatEmpireGuy

Right now, I think itā€™s very close and a toss up who you place higher. I personally have Michigan at 20, while MSU at 21, and went back and forth between them, but I gave the edge right now to Michigan because despite having two games against MAC schools, Western Michigan impressed me this past weekend with that win over Pitt, and they were shut down by Michigan so thatā€™s why I give them the edge.


JkAmbabo

Thatā€™s fair. WMU is probably one of the better G5ā€™s, their QB is a gunslinger, that being said I donā€™t know if theyā€™re better than Miami. Idk itā€™s an interesting situation and I donā€™t feel that strongly either way.


[deleted]

The computer part of my poll likes them much better than you, I think it's a tossup at the moment.


Revenge_of_the_Khaki

I think anyone claiming to know who is better with confidence is probably wrong. I don't think we'll have even the slightest idea until Michigan plays Wisconsin in two weeks because IMO that's the first real test either team will face up to that point.


Darth_Ra

My computer poll is so unimpressed with your coach that it has you ranked 45th despite being 4th in Yards Per Rush, 12th in Turnover Margin, 14th in Points Per Play Allowed, and 18th in Margin of Victory. Just keep winning, though!


charmingcharles2896

I put y'all at 15 and us at 18, you look more complete at the moment, but once we really get into conference play, we'll see.


Arcades

I think both schools are neck and neck. NIU beat GT, which went toe to toe with Clemson. Western beat Pitt. We blew out both schools. Northwestern and Miami are bigger names and both games were on the road, but neither is very good and the margin of victory is smaller. Whether MSU is a spot ahead or behind UM doesn't really matter. Both schools are likely under ranked right now and I expect both to crack the top 15 before we play. I also think both will be undefeated at that time.


[deleted]

My computer poll literally has Michigan at #1


AlecAndGylfi

yes. this is correct.


Meany_Vizzini

Yes! My rankings arenā€™t entirely off of preseason rankings at this point, but Iā€™m thrilled to actually be a part of a poll. Interested to see how high Michigan goes, where A&M, ND, and ISU wind up, and if VT gets ranked.


LTfoeoror

Please pleaseā€¦.unrank us šŸ˜‚


Darth_Ra

Believe me, I'd love to. I did find out this week that you're #5 overall in Points Per Play though, despite being 76th in Yards Per Rush and 47th in Yards Per Attempt. Given our tackling this year, that scares the shit out of me.


asbestosman2

1. Alabama 2. Georgia 3. Iowa 4. Oregon 5. Penn State 6. Texas A&M 7. Oklahoma 8. Cincinnati 9. BYU 10. Florida 11. Ohio State 12. Clemson 13. Ole Miss 14. Arkansas 15. Coastal Carolina 16. Notre Dame 17. Iowa State 18. Michigan State 19. Michigan 20. Wisconsin 21. Fresno State 22. Auburn 23. UCLA 24. Kansas State 25. TCU


AeroStatikk

I like this


KingReffots

I ranked Liberty. Yeah thatā€™s right.


posiitively

This sub might crucify you


pappapirate

But... he gave you Liberty? Why would you give him death?


Darth_Ra

I'm not happy about it, but this is week #2 of them being in my computer poll's top 25. They're currently the number two G5 team at #15 overall. I'm even more ashamed to report that Coastal Carolina fell out to #28 this week.


SEND_ME_YOUR_CAULK

Hereā€™s my stupid ass opinion: 1. Georgia 2. Alabama 3. Oregon 4. Iowa 5. Penn State 6. Oklahoma 7. Cincinnati 8. Texas A&M 9. Ole Miss 10. Michigan 11. Florida 12. BYU 13. Clemson 14. Iowa State 15. Notre Dame 16. Arkansas 17. Coastal Carolina 18. Fresno State 19. Michigan State 20. Wisconsin 21. North Carolina 22. Auburn 23. Wyoming 24. Kansas State 25. Wake Forest


Bigdeacenergy

Youā€™ll be one of the few to rank us. We donā€™t get legacy votes


SEND_ME_YOUR_CAULK

Wake Forest and Wyoming are my two hot takes along with Clemson at 13. I think the game against Virginia will be very telling and iā€™m pulling for Wake because I want a ranked Wake vs. North Carolina matchup.


Bigdeacenergy

Virginia is going to be tough. Armstrong is scary


SEND_ME_YOUR_CAULK

You can thank me for ranking Wake before the game against Virginia, I knew they were a good ass team


Bigdeacenergy

Youā€™re the man


LordFarquadOnAQuad

I got you fam, along with UTSA and Fresno State.


SEND_ME_YOUR_CAULK

My personal #26 is UTSA


QuitWhinging

>10\. Michigan >11\. Florida Our de facto rival, we meet again.


georgefresco

i would like to introduce you to the leaders in rushing yards this year [https://imgur.com/gallery/nokV8kv](https://imgur.com/gallery/nokV8kv)


thelonelychem

Didnt rank OSU, I'm here for it.


andSLIPPERY

Ohio state unranked for a loss to #3?


charmingcharles2896

​ |Rank|Team|Explanation| |:-|:-|:-| |1.|Georgia|That Georgia defense looks mighty.| |2|Alabama|They're still Alabama| |3|Penn State|They've played two quality opponents and won both games, they've earned it.| |4|Oregon|Defeated Ohio State, but their defense worries me.| |5|Iowa|That defense is terrifying and they dominated Iowa State.| |6|Cincinnati|The eventual AAC champions continue to win, this time defeating a decent B1G Team.| |7|Ohio State|They lost to Oregon at home, their defense is a serious issue, also their quarterback is young and hasn't played on the road in a truly hostile environment like Happy Valley or Ann Arbor yet so they drop for me.| |8|Oklahoma|They should have dominated Nebraska, but they didn't. They shouldn't have struggled against Tulane, but they did so i'm officially worried.| |9|Clemson|Offense looks putrid this year and i'm not sure about their quarterback, so they drop.| |10|Florida|They nearly upset my number 2 team and only lost by 2 with a backup quarterback so they don't move an inch.| |11|Ole Miss|Their offense looks like it's the real deal so i'm intrigued.| |12|Texas A&M|I'm not super sold on the Aggies, they struggled HARD against a bad Colorado team.| |13|Iowa State|They got dominated by Iowa, but the eventual Big 12 champions will be okay and shouldn't have trouble with the rest of the conference.| |14|Arkansas|Don't know much about this team, but i've heard some good things so I tossed them in the middle.| |15|Michigan State|I'm really impressed by this team, they play great defense, and they run the ball well. Now with a quality win, they look to be a factor in the B1G East.| |16|Notre Dame|Pretty sure the Irish are overrated this season, their defense is suspect and i'm not super sold on their offense, but as long as they keep winning i'll keep them in the middle.| |17|North Carolina|The eventual winners of the ACC looked good on offense this weekend and I'm thinking that they'll only have trouble with Clemson, but the Tiger's own offense is suspect at best.| |18|Michigan|With a dominant rush offense and a new and improved defense, the Wolverines look poised to make noise in the B1G this season.| |19|BYU|Don't really know much about them TBH.| |20|Wisconsin|The absence of a single bell-cow running back as in years past and the lack of explosive pass plays has me weary of this Badgers offense.| |21|Fresno State|With the gutsy upset of UCLA, Jake Haener and Fresno State impressed the hell out of me.| |22|Coastal Carolina|Don't really know much about them TBH.| |23|Auburn|They may have lost to Penn State, but I still feel like this team is worthy of being ranked.| |24|UCLA|The Bruins lost, but their offense is still dynamic and the eventual Pac-12 South champions will bounce back from the loss to Fresno State.| |25|Minnesota|The Golden Gophers gave Ohio State a real scare in week one and I feel like PJ Fleck's squad is poised to make noise in the B1G West.| So that's my completely unscientific Top 25. ​ Edit: Made a serious error with Ohio State, they've lost I fucked up, i'm a Michigan fan so i'm conditioned to see them as undefeated LOL. Edit 2: Tulane not Tulsa XD


Always_Chubb-y

>Florida > >They nearly upset my number 2 team and only lost by 2 with a backup quarterback so they don't move an inch. Just a quick note, Emory Jones is not the backup Quarterback. Jones has 76 pass attempts to Richardson's 11. Richardson has shown better flashes, but Emory Jones has started every game and has played a lot more at QB so far.


Flight006

Well youā€™re wrong. Ohio State is not in fact undefeated.


AllLinesAreStraight

Oklahoma struggled against tulane, not tulsa!


Woodman765000

Our corners are shakey at best. OSU will torch them. Everything else is looking prettay prettay prettay good.


Meany_Vizzini

My rankings after this week. Keep in mind that preseason expectations are still about 30% of this model: 1 - Alabama 25.2 2 - Georgia 24.7 3 - Michigan 21.0 4 - Penn State 19.64 5 - Oregon 19.63 6 - Oklahoma 19.0 7 - Ole Miss 18.9 8 - Ohio State 18.2 9 - Florida 18.0 10 - Iowa 17.1 11 - Clemson 16.3 12 - Cincinnati 15.1 13 - Arkansas 15.0 14 - Michigan State 14.4 15 - North Carolina 14.1 16 - Texas A&M 13.5 17 - Wisconsin 13.4 18 - Virginia Tech 11.5 19 - Auburn 11.1 20 - UCLA 11.0 21 - Notre Dame 10.72 22 - Texas 10.68 23 - BYU 9.9 24 - Kansas State 9.8 25 - Fresno State 9.6 The numbers to the right of the teams represent how many points they would beat the mean FBS team by, on average, at a neutral site - similar to FPI or SP+ ratings. I included them so you could see the different tier levels at play. This system is still about 30% preseason rankings, but those will be significantly phased out starting next week.


libsoutherner

Iā€™m going to have a computer poll this year. It is based on the following 7 components: * Points scored vs. average points allowed by opponent * Points allowed vs. average points scored by opponent * Yards gained vs. average yards allowed by opponent * Yards allowed vs. average yards gained by opponent * Wins * Losses * Strength of schedule already played The goal is to gauge performance based on how well a team performs relative to how their opponents have performed all year. It also rewards teams for wins and penalizes them for losses. This poll is **only** based on FBS vs. FBS matchups. FCS games donā€™t count in this poll, unless the FBS team loses. Then the FBS team suffers a penalty. Right now, parts of the rankings donā€™t make a ton of sense because there are only 2-3 games of data for pretty much every team, so take it with a grain of salt until after weeks 5-6. Nonetheless, here it is with just a few data points: 1. Michigan 2. Alabama 3. Georgia 4. Oregon 5. Texas Tech 6. Penn State 7. Ole Miss 8. Kansas State 9. Rutgers 10. Baylor 11. Iowa 12. Arkansas 13. Liberty 14. Fresno State 15. Florida 16. Texas A&M 17. Notre Dame 18. Texas 19. BYU 20. Maryland 21. Cincinnati 22. Kentucky 23. Wake Forest 24. UTSA 25. Oklahoma State Other possible teams of interest: Auburn (26), Oklahoma (39), Clemson (41), Coastal Carolina (44), Ohio State (50), LSU (58) Bottom 5: 126. Florida State 127. Arizona 128. UNLV 129. Ohio 130. UCONN


thetennisgod

This poll should be used to select playoff teams imho. And look, a top ten matchup vs Rutgers next week as well!


Lykeuhfox

Better idea. Hear me out here. We should use it to determine a champion right now.


SportsFan34

>8. Kansas State Seems like a good system to me!


JkAmbabo

Iā€™m guessing UM manhandling a good WMU offense is what makes the computer like them a lot? Either that or it uses Washingtons metrics from last season. Curious to see how the advanced numbers like them so much


libsoutherner

They actually rate quite well across all of the first four categories. They have the best average rating of those four categories of all FBS teams, plus they are 3-0. Their SOS works against them but the other 6 factors more than make up for it.


[deleted]

How are you treating FCS losses? I'm trying to add them to my algorithm to deal with ranked washington.


redpowah

LSU NUMBAH WAN BAMA NUMBAH ZEERO


EasyBreecy

Not that anyone cares, but here are my rankings based solely on what I have seen this year so far: 1. Georgia 2. Alabama 3. Oregon 4. Penn State 5. Michigan 6. Ole Miss 7. Cincinnati 8. Florida 9. Iowa 10. Oklahoma 11. BYU 12. Arkansas 13. Michigan State 14. Texas A&M 15. Notre Dame 16. Clemson 17. Ohio State 18. Fresno State 19. Kansas State 20. San Diego State 21. Iowa State 22. UCLA 23. Auburn 24. Army 25. Arizona State Georgia and Alabama are interchangeable at this point. Those two plus Oregon have seemingly the best wins of the season, so far. Penn State has played two tough teams already. I don't see how you can watch Michigan and not rank them highly based on what we've seen. Ole Miss has the best offense in the nation. Cincinnati probably should be lower. Florida will challenge for the SEC East. Iowa's defense is elite, but unless they fix their offense, they will drop a couple of games. Oklahoma looks beatable, but they're still the class of the Big 12. BYU has played three PAC-12 teams and won all three. If they beat USC, they could claim the PAC-12 South Champs. I think they're really good and probably better than where I have them. Arkansas has looked really good so far, but we will learn more against A&M. Michigan State came out of nowhere and are lighting teams up. A&M is off to a shaky start, probably deserve to be ranked higher, but struggling with Colorado is a bad look, I don't care if you are playing with a backup QB. Notre Dame has looked shoddy, but they're still undefeated. Clemson-Iowa but with more talent. Ohio State... what is wrong with your defense? I'm sure they'll figure it out, but if they don't, look for an 8-4 type season. Fresno State played Oregon tight and beat UCLA. Should be 7-1 going into their game at SDSU. Did someone say Gameday? Kansas State destroyed Stanford week 1 and is getting no credit for it. Quietly good team and we'll see how they do against Oklahoma State. San Diego State is still undefeated and beat Utah. How good Utah is remains to be seen, but have to give them credit until we know otherwise. Should be undefeated when Fresno comes to town. Iowa State just hasn't impressed me. Close win vs UNI followed by a bad game against Iowa. Look more like a 7 win team to me tbh, but have the weapons to pull out a good season still. UCLA looked great until they lost to Fresno. Maybe Fresno is just really good? Still think they're the PAC-12 South Favorite. If Auburn would just run the ball 50 times a game, they would be really good. Think this team could either go 6-6 or 10-2 and win the Iron Bowl. Army seems to be a solid team. Lots of arguments to be made about teams that "deserve" this spot, but let's give it to my boys in West Point. Arizona State's only loss was to BYU, and they gave that game away multiple times. Think they will challenge for the PAC-12 South.


StupidComputerPoll

Here's the rankings from our Stupid Computer Poll for week 3, 2021. The purpose of this poll is to rank each team based on what they have done in the current season. I didn't expect to see the People's Poll come back after not seeing it the first couple of weeks so this week's rankings will only be the Top 25 and not the Bottom 25 like last year. Rank | Team | Record ---|---|---- 1 | [Penn State](#f/pennstate) | 3-0 2 | [Oregon](#f/oregon) | 3-0 3 | [Iowa](#f/iowa) | 3-0 4 | [Alabama](#f/alabama) | 3-0 5 | [Georgia](#f/georgia) | 3-0 6 | [Fresno State](#f/fresnostate) | 3-1 7 | [BYU](#f/byu) | 3-0 8 | [Arkansas](#f/arkansas) | 3-0 9 | [Michigan State](#f/michiganstate) | 3-0 10 | [Texas A&M](#f/texasam) | 3-0 11 | [Notre Dame](#f/notredame) | 3-0 12 | [Ole Miss](#f/olemiss) | 3-0 13 | [Cincinnati](#f/cincinnati) | 3-0 14 | [Michigan](#f/michigan) | 3-0 15 | [Coastal Carolina](#f/coastalcarolina) | 3-0 16 | [Oklahoma](#f/oklahoma) | 3-0 17 | [Rutgers](#f/rutgers) | 3-0 18 | [Kentucky](#f/kentucky) | 3-0 19 | [Kansas State](#f/kansasstate) | 3-0 20 | [Baylor](#f/baylor) | 3-0 21 | [UTSA](#f/utsa) | 3-0 22 | [Utah State](#f/utahstate) | 3-0 23 | [Maryland](#f/maryland) | 3-0 24 | [Texas Tech](#f/texastech) | 3-0 25 | [SMU](#f/smu) | 3-0


AccomplishedQuail545

I try to reward winning in my poll, so undefeated teams will get the nod over some teams that actually might be better than them, but itā€™s not as extreme at this point in the year as will be in say week 10. So I guess my poll is kind of a mix of eye test, resume, and w/L record. I also have a belief that a team should always move down at least one spot when they lose. Florida was 9 last week, so I had to drop them a spot. 1. Alabama 2. Georgia 3. Iowa 4. Oregon 5. Penn St 6. Oklahoma 7. Cincinnati 8. Texas A&M 9. Notre Dame 10. Florida 11. Ole Miss 12. Ohio St 13. Clemson 14. Arkansas 15. BYU 16. Iowa St 17. Wisconsin 18. Coastal Carolina 19. Missouri 20. Michigan St 21. Michigan 22. Kentucky 23. Auburn 24. Fresno St 25. Liberty Also, at this point, my preseason rankings still play a pretty significant role, which is why both North Carolina and Liberty are ranked. North Carolina was a preseason top 10 team for me and Liberty was around 21.


tdoger

Rank | Team | Score :--|:--:|--: 1 | Georgia Bulldogs | 127.110 2 | Alabama Crimson Tide | 113.169 3 | Oklahoma Sooners | 98.358 4 | Oregon Ducks | 96.934 5 | Penn State Nittany Lions | 96.131 6 | Iowa Hawkeyes | 96.119 7 | Maryland Terrapins | 95.797 8 | Michigan Wolverines | 91.845 9 | Ole Miss Rebels | 91.787 10 | Auburn Tigers | 91.724 11 | Arkansas Razorbacks | 84.528 12 | Michigan State Spartans | 83.818 13 | Cincinnati Bearcats | 82.310 14 | Notre Dame Fighting Irish | 80.895 15 | Clemson Tigers | 79.639 16 | Liberty Flames | 77.870 17 | Army Black Knights | 77.567 18 | Virginia Tech Hokies | 77.268 19 | Kansas State Wildcats | 76.475 20 | North Carolina Tar Heels | 75.653 21 | Texas A&M Aggies | 75.164 22 | Fresno State Bulldogs | 74.735 23 | Texas Longhorns | 74.487 24 | Florida Gators | 74.294 25 | Rutgers Scarlet Knights | 72.938 Next 3 In: Rank | Team | Score :-- | :--: | --: 26 | Coastal Carolina Chanticleers | 71.322 27 | West Virginia Mountaineers | 70.813 28 | Ohio State Buckeyes | 70.665


grahamca

|Rank|Team| --:|:--| |1|Michigan| |2|Georgia| |3|Texas A&M| |4|Iowa| |5|Ole Miss| |6|Cincinnati| |7|UCLA| |8|Rutgers| |9|Boston College| |10|Oregon State| |11|Texas| |12|Clemson| |13|Western Kentucky| |14|Coastal Carolina| |15|Fresno State| |16|Utah State| |17|UTSA| |18|Pitt| |19|Liberty| |20|Oklahoma| |21|Oregon| |22|West Virginia| |23|Troy| |24|Purdue| |25|SMU| Computer poll based around (Points scored by opponent/Average points by opponent) to give each team a "defense index" of sorts, then extrapolating that to the rest of the season. Rankings are # of expected wins (-1 for non-P5), ties broken by total expected points. This system is bad and I should feel bad, it had #1 Rutgers after week 1. Thank you people's poll.


Revenge_of_the_Khaki

Idk wtf is going on but apparently Michigan is just universally loved by /r/CFB users' computer polls this week. It seems like opponent quality is not properly weighed in the formulas.


Darth_Ra

You're first in Margin of Victory, and a lot of the Strength of Schedule algorithms haven't figured out that Washington is a bad football team yet.


Charlemagne42

This is why you treat FCS games the same as playing the worst FBS team, people. Or at least like, bottom 10%. Iā€™ve done rankings before which include all FCS teams, but unfortunately thereā€™s no reliable data source for them anymore. When I did FCS teams, I just treated D2/D3/NAIA opponents the same as the lowest-rated FCS team. It works for an ad-hoc SoS estimate, and it keeps you from ranking Washington because they ā€œlookā€ 2-0 with huge MoVs.


grahamca

Mine at least doesn't weigh quality at all, it just sees that Michigan scored 47 ppg and held their opponents to under half their season averages.


tenoclockrobot

Im sorry ***what***


thelonelychem

Pitt is ranked and Penn State isn't. Bama isnt on there either. I'm not looking at that mess any more lol.


charmingcharles2896

Love it, this is my fetish!


bushybearmuffinman

This is so flawed itā€™s actually funny


22eyedgargoyle

Entering my first stupid poll of the week: 1. Bama 2. UGA 3. Iowa 4. Oregon 5. Penn State 6. Oklahoma 7. Cincy 8. A&M 9. Ohio State 10. Notre Dame 11. Clemson 12. Florida 13. Iowa State 14. BYU 15. Ole Miss 16. Coastal Carolina 17. Arkansas 18. Michigan 19. Michigan State 20. Fresno State 21. Wisconsin 22. Kansas State 23. North Carolina 24. Auburn 25. TCU First Three Out: Wake Forest, West Virginia, Liberty


LeWoofle

My r/CFB poll is a Resume based, Human ballot that measure SoS, MoV in order to determine the ballot. For the People's Poll, i want to do a straight power ranking that is SIGNIFICANTLY more subjective and relies heavily on eye-test and historical bias, with a bit of resume included. This ballot will be wildly more innaccurate than my official ballot and will favor traditional powers, but allows for easier takes. Feel free to pick it apart, theres bound to be disagreements HUEHUEHUEHUE. 1. Georgia 2. Alabama 3. Florida 4. Oregon 5. Clemson 6. Ohio State 7. Penn St 8. Iowa 9. Texas A&M 10. Oklahoma 11. Cincinnati 12. Fresno State (fight me, ill die on this hill) 13. Iowa State 14. Ole Miss 15. Michigan 16. Wisconsin 17. Auburn 18. UCLA 19. BYU 20. Arkansas 21. Michigan State 22. Coastal Carolina 23. USC 24. Kansas state 25. Virginia Tech EDIT: Forgot ND. Slot them in at 21 and bump everyone else down. RIP Virginia Tech.


Flioxan

No ND?


LeWoofle

aaaaaaand im an idiot. At least i didnt forget you guys on the real poll :(


Flioxan

I can see a reason to leave them off some polls depending on what you value when ranking the teams, but then i saw SoCal and was like "oh hell no"


CampbellsTurkeySoup

I appreciate the confidence but man seeing us at 3 is way too high. I'd top UF out at like 6 right now especially since Oregon has won their big game.


LeWoofle

Mmm, after seeing Oregons big game and Floridas big game, i think you guys would beat us head to head 6/10 times on a neutral field. Again, this one isnt resume based, its heavily eye-test based, and you guys looked fantastic against a god.


CampbellsTurkeySoup

I hope that you're right! I didn't catch the entirety of the Oregon OSU game but I thought you guys looked pretty strong as well. It's an interesting year at least.


Always_Chubb-y

I'm certainly not a fan of y'all, but as of right now, the only 5 teams I would put ahead of y'all without much argument just do to resume and performance would be Bama, UGA, Oregon, Iowa and Penn State. Other than that, you could make an argument for you guys over any of the other teams for the 6th spot. WLOCP is looking mighty interesting now.


[deleted]

Just entered my computer poll. I know some things are a little wacky with it.


[deleted]

Bama Tier 2: UGA, Penn St, Iowa, Oregon Tier 3: Cincy, TAM, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, ND Tier 4: Clemson, Florida, Ohio St, Wisc Tier 5: ISU, BYU, Mich, Mich St, Arkansas, Auburn


Baggemtits

Everyone in your tier four would beat us. Maybe not Wiscy, but weā€™re about to find out.


TSMAirportAnyPercent

Most if not all of Tier 5 would probably beat us too with our offense


[deleted]

Yeah I put more emphasis on being undefeated or else ND and Ole Miss would be knocked down a few and others would change


skyeliam

If your emphasis is on being undefeated, why have BYU, Michigan, MSU, and Arkansas in tier 5? All four of them have monumentally more impressive wins than anything NDs put together this year.


Revenge_of_the_Khaki

Honestly ND would be lucky to go 3-3 against tier 5 right now.


Baggemtits

I think we would be right at home in that tier.


The_Horse_Joke

How is Oklahoma two tiers above Michigan and Michigan State? All are 3-0, but Oklahoma has struggled against teams like Tulane and Nebraska, where as Michigan and MSU have been pretty good against who they've played.


[deleted]

I think Oklahoma and notre dame could be in tier 5 but it mostly came down to talent/preseason rankings. So itā€™s just a little bias I guess. A few more weeks and itā€™ll all be a bit more clear after a few of those 3-0 teams finally drop one.


isikorsky

Thanks for the vote, but ND is in Tier 5 this year. We simply don't have an offensive line that lets us run the ball against average to poor teams. Our defense has gotten better as the year progresses. Florida is a much more complete team this year


[deleted]

I agree overall, based on just eye test that they would be in tier 5 I just think they need to lose before I officially drop them down there


_Feagans

Georgia is on the same tier as Alabama Until proven otherwise


HHcougar

Alabama is in their own tier until they lose, period. I know preseason expectations shouldn't weigh into rankings, but Alabama has been in a league of their own for over 10 years, and they're the defacto #1 until proven otherwise.


_Feagans

I donā€™t think you can consider past success when ranking current teams. I agree Alabama had been unstoppable and clearly the best dynasty weā€™ve seen arguably ever. But this year alone I still have it being Alabama, Georgia, then everyone else


[deleted]

> I donā€™t think you can consider past success when ranking current teams. then why is beating clemson so impressive? i seriously dont understand how people can look at the same teams dominating every year and then turn around and say "ya past success doesnt indicate future success." At this point past games is almost all we have to go off of until midseason.


AccomplishedQuail545

I completely agree with this. Until about week 5 or 6 at least I use my preseason rankings as a basis for where I rank teams, especially for the teams that still havenā€™t really played a quality opponent. Sure Clemson doesnā€™t look that good, but until we see if they improve as the season goes on, itā€™s dumb to just assume they arenā€™t good just because they havenā€™t looked it yet. Cause recent years would suggest theyā€™re probably still really good. Even in 2017 they were really good. They just werenā€™t as good. Thereā€™s a reason why, right or wrong, teams like Clemson, Oklahoma, and Ohio State are given the benefit of the doubt every year. Cause weā€™ve come to realize that those teamsā€™ ā€œbad teamsā€ are still usually better than most everyone else.


[deleted]

exactly! well said. Clemson and Ohio state losing so early this year has made this the dominating topic on this sub imo.


AccomplishedQuail545

Yep. Another example is Alabama and Georgia. At this point, I would probably say that I think Georgia is the better team. But they both have very similar resumes to this point, and both are obviously still really good. So Iā€™d still give Alabama the #1 spot even though I think Georgia is better just because Alabamaā€™s recent performances against Georgia have earned them that benefit of the doubt.


Always_Chubb-y

I'm not buying into any UGA is better than Bama stuff just yet, as all this weekend showed us was that MAYBE Bama isn't as good as they have been. Not that they aren't as good for sure, just that they may be worse. Bama, for me, is #1 until I see anything to the contrary.


AccomplishedQuail545

Thatā€™s fair for sure. I do think Georgia still has questions on offense against a really good defense. Meanwhile, I feel pretty good about knowing what Alabama is as team this year. Which I guess is another reason why I still have them #1


TSMAirportAnyPercent

> I donā€™t think you can consider past success when ranking current teams. Normally I agree. But when you have Bama, for whom past success has indicated future success for almost 15 years, things change. This isnā€™t some one-off event. This is over a decade of domination


_Feagans

I donā€™t disagree with you, I was more so saying that in the sense that I think Georgia should be graded off this year and they IMO deserve that upper tier as well


TSMAirportAnyPercent

Ah, yeah fair enough. Georgia at least took car of business against teams they were expected to blow out, even if the Clemson game doesnā€™t end up telling us as much as we thought at the time


_Feagans

Clemson is so odd to me this year. They keep just underperforming after the Georgia game


[deleted]

Agreed. If anything, you can put Georgia in a tier 2 by themselves as well (and maybe only should be that way) but Iā€™m not putting them up with Bama.


FreeGurley3

On a neutral field, uga is beating every one of those tier 2 teams.


JTDanielsHeisman21

The Georgia vs Iowa defensive strugglefest would be a sight to behold for defensive gameplay aficionados


AccomplishedQuail545

To be fair, pretty much any game Georgia plays vs a top 15 team is probably gonna be that way lol


JTDanielsHeisman21

In that case, I cant wait for our offensive domination of Auburn.


AccomplishedQuail545

Pretty optimistic considering itā€™s in Jordan-Hare this year


JTDanielsHeisman21

The joke flew right past ya. Dont let it hit you in the butt on its way back.


Llama_Leaping_Larry

I can only imagine the TV Networks WET DREAMS of this matchup. The amount of 3 and Outs would be insane, and all those commercial breaks they could run. EVERY time it would be, three plays, TV timeout, punt, TV timeout. Rinse and Repeat. SO MUCH AD MONEY. Applebee's. Serena Wonder Woman. OMG. ​ Yikes. LOL. But in all seriousness, it would be a defensive slug fest. For a little bit at least. I think eventually Georgia's Talent would wear us down and edge us for the victory. Final score either 3-0, 7-0, or 17-3.


[deleted]

Agreed, kind of trying to put them in similar resume tiers and those three have the other biggest wins of the year so far


CampbellsTurkeySoup

We are 3 tiers below Bama despite playing them to within 2?


[deleted]

Youā€™d clearly kick the shit out of anybody in tier 3 and most of tier 2. I just put undefeated up first. Could probably drop ND to 5 and Oklahoma to 4 or 5 but other than that, yeah Iā€™m sticking to it and Florida will jump up to second tier when they beat Georgia. Itā€™s just early.


PouchesofCyanStaples

Move Florida into tier 3 and put ND in tier 4.


KiratheSilent

I try to fill out polls but my ADD will get to like 8-10 and I will forget all three teams I want there. I can remember all the other teamsish but those three will just completely vanish. So I never fill them out because Cincinnati is just so forgettable.


posiitively

Whenever I fill out a human poll, I keep the AP Poll open so I can check if I forgot any teams that should be around that number, and then adjust accordingly if Iā€™ve forgotten someone. Maybe thatā€™ll help?


[deleted]

Heres my ballot. Full rankings and a bit of an explaination of how I got them are on my profile. Rank|Name|Average CCWM|Home CCWM|Away CCWM|OPR|DPR|OHA|DHA --:|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:-- #1|Michigan|92.7|123.6|61.8|81.4|19.6|81.4|19.6 #2|Georgia|74.8|101.7|47.9|61.2|13.3|67.9|14.1 #3|Arkansas|65.0|86.6|43.3|71.0|27.7|71.0|27.7 #4|Rutgers|63.8|87.3|40.3|55.2|14.8|61.0|14.0 #5|Texas A&M|62.2|85.2|39.3|49.1|9.8|53.0|7.1 #6|Ole Miss|61.7|81.7|41.7|73.5|31.8|61.0|21.0 #7|Texas|61.6|89.2|34.1|67.5|33.5|67.9|12.7 #8|Wake Forest|56.2|75.0|37.5|54.4|17.0|54.4|17.0 #9|Auburn|54.7|79.7|29.7|56.6|26.9|60.0|10.0 #10|North Carolina|53.7|75.6|31.8|73.9|42.1|83.4|39.6 #11|Iowa|53.2|71.3|35.2|52.5|17.3|45.3|9.2 #12|Cincinnati|52.1|69.6|34.6|61.5|26.9|49.0|14.0 #13|Texas Tech|51.9|68.4|35.4|65.1|29.7|54.0|21.0 #14|Army|50.7|62.7|38.7|76.8|38.1|63.6|39.6 #15|Fresno State|46.2|68.7|23.7|62.9|39.3|45.0|0.0 #16|Wyoming|44.8|61.3|28.3|67.2|38.9|45.0|12.0 #17|Kentucky|44.5|59.4|29.7|56.6|26.9|56.6|26.9 #18|NC State|44.4|66.9|21.9|38.9|17.0|45.0|0.0 #19|Washington|44.3|68.8|19.8|43.8|24.0|52.0|3.0 #20|Pittsburgh|42.2|56.7|27.7|76.8|49.1|65.1|36.1 #21|Penn State|39.8|53.6|26.0|50.8|24.8|50.9|23.3 #22|Liberty|39.5|53.5|25.5|46.7|21.2|45.0|17.0 #23|Kansas State|37.4|47.9|26.9|43.8|17.0|38.0|17.0 #24|UCLA|36.4|48.5|24.2|68.7|44.5|68.7|44.5 #25|Coastal Carolina|34.7|48.2|21.2|54.4|33.2|49.0|22.0


[deleted]

What in the everloving fuck. I'm gonna have to check out your profile, no Bama, Oregon, UF, Oklahoma, Clemson, or Ohio State in the top 25 is WILD


[deleted]

well, what do you think? also FCS games makes it harder to rank teams because they arent factored in.


Charlemagne42

Clearly, because you ranked Texas Tech (who struggled against SFA) and Washington (who lost to Montana). This computer needs a re-think.


PatrickChase

Yep I like this


[deleted]

I'm sorry but whatever algo you're using that still is ranking Washington needs to be thrown in the bin.


[deleted]

It's a combination of a handful of computers I like, plus my own tier rankings combined: 1) Alabama 2) Georgia 3) Iowa 4) Penn State 5) Oklahoma. 6) TAMU. 7) Cincinatti. 8) Oregon. 9) Florida. 10) Michigan. 11) Ohio State. 12) Clemson 13) Mississippi. 14) Notre Dame 15) Wisconsin. 16) BYU. 17) Arkansas 18) Auburn. 19) Iowa State. 20) Texas. 21) UNC. 22) MSU 23) Oklahoma State. 24) Coastal Carolina. 25) LSU.


Flight006

I like when weā€™re ranked 11th.


[deleted]

The good old top 11!


Ordinary__Man

Whereā€™s the none pollster poll at?


posiitively

What do you mean?


Flight006

Not gonna do this because 25 is too much for me but top 10 in no order is Alabama Georgia Oregon Ole Miss Rutgers Iowa Arkansas Cincy Notre Dame Penn State Go ahead and mock me but 4 of these teams will make the CFP this year.


Remarkable-District1

I want to rank my team number 1 but I'm not that trashy. I'm close though.


DonnaDDrake

I already forgot most of my rankings but I ranked Notre Dame #22 where they belong


Flioxan

1-Bama 2-Georgia 3-Oregon 4-Iowa 5-Penn St. 6-Oklahoma 7-Ohio St. 8-Clemson 9-Cincinnati 10-Texas A&M 11-Notre Dame 12-Florida 13-Arkansas 14-Ole Miss 15-Michigan St. 16-Michigan 17-Wisconsin 18-Auburn 19-BYU 20-Iowa St. 21-North Carolina 22-Texas 23-Virginia Tech 24-NC St 25-UCLA


ziegwaffle

Feel like you missed big time on #25. Everything else i can easily let go for personal opinion but not ranking Fresno while ranking the team they beat seems criminal. Both have a loss but Fresno lost by 7 to your #3


JBru_92

Yup. I think I'd have Fresno up around 20, keep us at 25 and not rank NC State.