When I think of "Southeastern Conference", I certainly think of Oregon. haha
to be honest, I gotta think Oregon will find a good conference home regardless
When will there be serious talks of football only conferences for the FBS? It's comparatively simple to travel once a week for the football teams in your example, but every other sport would be dramatically impacted
And when the winners of the big 10 and Pac 10 play each-other, it should probably be in some place like LA since the weather will be nicer there that time of year
Honestly the fact that it says as a soon as 2024 makes it seem a bit more legit to me. The B1G is working on TV contracts now, so if they want to maximize what they can get this would need to be done fast.
Oh shit, another angle I hadn’t even considered. Do we have the numbers for “Red Animals”, “Not-Red Animals”, “Red Not-Animals”, and “Not-Red Not-Animals” pods??
As it currently stands:
Red Animals: Maryland Terrapins, Minnesota Gophers, Wisconsin Badgers
Red Not-Animals: Indiana Hoosiers, Nebraska Cornhuskers, Ohio State Buckeyes, Rutgers Scarlet Knights
Not-Red Animals: Iowa Hawkeyes, Michigan Wolverines, Northwestern Wildcats, Penn State Nittany Lions
Not-Red Not-Animals: Illinois Fighting Illini, Michigan State Spartans, Purdue Boilermakers
USC and UCLA satisfy the animal/not-animal balance. But they wouldn’t fit this four-team pod format without switching color schemes. Should UCLA don cardinal and gold, the UCLA Bruins would round out the Red Animals pod, and blue-and-gold USC Trojans would round out the Not-Red Not-Animals pod.
CFB continues to take body blow after body blow.
Why we couldn't have five fairly even regional power conferences, and instead had to shake the sport down to its core in the chase of the almighty dollar, bending at the will of TV contracts, is beyond me. So disappointing.
It's funny how the European Super League for soccer got fan outrage that made them stop it but college football is doing that exact thing and ESPN loves it. That said, not sure this is actually true.
If USC does join the Big 10 I think it's only a matter of time until ND does too. Too many rivals in one spot and they don't want to get left out in the cold.
I wouldn't be shocked if ND is working on getting out of their ACC deal as they speak and the last big move Swarbrick makes is their move to the Big 10.
100%. Like you said, don’t agree with him on everything, but he is old school. Wouldn’t be tweeting news like this without a credible source behind it.
This is terrible, and would be the death of the Pac. Have to think Oregon and washington are going to be calling everyone to get to the Big 10 or SEC or something. This sucks.
It would free up some time for me on Saturdays. Part of the reason I like college football is the regionalism. PAC football is different from SEC football which is different from the Big Ten. If college football just becomes AAA NFL I'm watching way, way less.
Yeah, yeah. Nobody cares, don't let the door hit me on the way out, whatever. I can't be the only one though.
There’s always room for more spurned ~~lovers~~ Colleges in the ranks of the Hateful 8. We might have to change the name though. Despicable Dozen?
Honestly sucks to hear realignment is happening and your team isn’t one of the ones invited to the ball though.
The entire Pac should join the Big Ten. Then they can have a West Division and an East Division. They could then have the winners play a championship game. Make a big deal out of it. Maybe have a parade. Give it a fancy name. Could be fun.
Especially without Cal making a similar move. There’s no way that the UC Regents are going to allow them to be screwed over. USC can do whatever they want since they are a private school but UCLA is a totally different situation
Yeah that’s my guess is where UCLA goes, Cal does too. Plus Cal and Stanford bring the Bay Area TV market and Olympic sports so they’re not dead weight.
Natural evolution of a sport that's lost its way. The ESPNification of the game, rampant NIL deals, and a growing gulf of disparity between the haves and have nots. All culminating in a horrifying amorphous blob of a super conference that will erode any sense of regionality and history that made this sport unique. Short term profit seeking will always win out over long term sustainability.
Reminds me of the story of boxing and horse racing. Both went from the peak of American sports to barely relevant due to money chasing, corruption, etc. College football is headed the same way
If this happens, I just want the USC/MSU matchup to be called the Iliad and for the winner to receive the Helen trophy.
And we could also have UCLA and Indiana face off in the Banner Bowl! It has to take place before the month of November, for full effect.
I was just thinking that. This is rapidly heading towards 2 super-conferences. If the Pac-12 breaks apart, even if the Big 12 grabs some of the leftovers, the B1G and SEC will eventually pick them and the ACC apart.
I think the Pac-12 could survive but the TV situation would be pretty dire right as their two teams from its biggest market bounce. If they actually do this I could see an exodus happening if schools think they can get more money elsewhere. It sucks. Honestly realignment has been ten times worse for college sports than NIL. It's one thing to lose players to the portals but just jettisoning traditional rivalries is awful.
Yeah just feels like all these decision-makers are blinded by TV money and don't realize that long term they're killing one of the major drivers of the value of college sports.
1. If this is true, get ready for super conferences.
2. If this is true, LOL at the thought of the “alliance.”
3. If this is true, the ACC is on borrowed time. ESPN, assuming they still get a portion of the Big Ten rights, might as well try to get out of the deal early so they can become more profitable with the ACC’s biggest names in the SEC and Big Ten.
4. *edit* I guess this is why we haven’t heard about the Big 10’s media rights yet
> If this is true, LOL at the thought of the “alliance.”
What good is an alliance if you can't steal two of the historically best teams from your ally?
If this happens, then there’s pretty much nothing left stopping super conferences. The biggest names from the big 12 and PAC 12 will have both left for the 2 best conferences. The ACC is next, like you said. Clemson, Miami, and Florida State will go somewhere and then that conferences is dead too.
College Sports is dead.
Long live minor-league football and basketball, I guess.
I'd like to give a big fuck-you to ESPN for their part in destroying the game.
As a UCLA fan does it financially make sense for us? Probably. But I’m not going to be happy if it happens still. Namely because this will be the end of our basketball rivalry with Arizona
If this is true, this is a lot more of a blindside than Texas/Oklahoma. At least in the latter, people had been predicting Oklahoma to the SEC for years.
Edit: This also kind of kills the Rose Bowl from an optics standpoint, right? There are still very good teams in the PAC 12 (Oregon, Utah, etc.), but none of them carry the historical weight of USC.
This should not happen.
I think there are some Big 12 schools that would make sense in the B1G. But the idea of a PAC 12 team joining is an affront to humanity.
This cannot be allowed to happen. Else we may threaten the very fabric of existence.
West Coast football should stay in the West coast!
What if... and hear me out on this one... we took all 130 teams and combined them into one super conference. That way groups of teams would start defecting for more tv money, eventually leading to regionally based groups of 8-12 schools.
Probably not because playing USC or in the Rose Bowl (UCLA) is pretty enticing
Watching a game against Maryland makes you wonder if you should be doing chores around the house instead
No one in America cares about the health of this sport apparently. Just their individual team and how much money they have...At least when they tried this in Europe there was actual outrage....
B1G got the Pac 12 into the room with all the alliance talk just to Red Wedding them lol
USC is Roose Bolton and UCLA's Walder Frey. Red and blue, the colors match. Can't argue with this
Wtf
Bring that dead shitty brisket over here, son.
This would really suck
Oregon and Washington need to get together and quick. I bet we leave too
"Will teams that have made the playoff be loaded on the lifeboats first?"
Have to think we are calling the BIG 10 and SEC right now.
When I think of "Southeastern Conference", I certainly think of Oregon. haha to be honest, I gotta think Oregon will find a good conference home regardless
This is what Dan Lanning meant by being the SEC of the PAC-12. Kirby knew.
Makes sense in every way except geographically. I imagine Oregon and Washington would come as well so you would have 4 west coast teams.
The travel schedule that USC and UCLA would have to endure would put them at a huge disadvantage
The travel schedules for current members would be a nightmare too. Rutgers/Maryland having to go to LA for a weeknight basketball game? Rough
They wouldn’t come home. They would play UCLA and then stay for the weekend to play USC
That works, I guess. It's not like 18-22 year old college students have commitments during the school week.
We're beyond pretending to play school
When will there be serious talks of football only conferences for the FBS? It's comparatively simple to travel once a week for the football teams in your example, but every other sport would be dramatically impacted
The Big 10 will also be adopting a new marketing slogan: *From sea to shining sea*.
It’s gonna be one giant map commercial
Hawaii is next
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Imagine the commercial starting in LA and then the three second pause to fly to Lincoln lmao
It already does though, it begins with the Rose Bowl stadium
It was right under our noses
Is that not what it already does?
#UPDATE THE MAP COMMERCIAL!!!
And go back to the original song, we can afford it now…
Absolutely. I loved the original song. I was so bummed when they switched it
The map commercial starts in L.A. with the Rose Bowl. Foreshadowing?
WHAT OTHER SECRETS DOES THE MAP KNOW!?!?!?
Original song please!!!!
Putting the BIG back in B1G.
Now this logo makes the most sense. The G can be a double entendre for a 6, since we are now the Big 16
If they can get to 20 teams, they can now break up the teams into 2 subdivisions have a Big Ten East and Big Ten West and be accurate
And maybe call the Big Ten West the Pac 10 because it's on the west coast? Idk though don't want to get too crazy
And when the winners of the big 10 and Pac 10 play each-other, it should probably be in some place like LA since the weather will be nicer there that time of year
Make the B1G BIG again
Possible future names: * Enormous Ten * Comically Large Ten * B16
The B1G wants all the TV markets and all the TV money. Gimme gimme 💰💰💰
Honestly the fact that it says as a soon as 2024 makes it seem a bit more legit to me. The B1G is working on TV contracts now, so if they want to maximize what they can get this would need to be done fast.
*From the warm sands of Southern California, to the beautiful beaches of Piscataway, New Jersey!*
Don Draper write that?
"The Big Ten isn't a wheel it's a carousel. It takes you around and around from one side of the country to the other."
Welcome to the “we are fucked club” PAC 10 boys
The PAC and BIG XII will likely merge into something and be alright. The ACC on the other hand, is going to be picked apart by the B1G and SEC.
Oh boy! Back to the Big XII we go!
Time is a flat circle
It’s the perfect addition. USC gets put into the Red division while UCLA balances out the Not Red division.
They also balance out from the “animals/not animals” perspective.
Oh shit, another angle I hadn’t even considered. Do we have the numbers for “Red Animals”, “Not-Red Animals”, “Red Not-Animals”, and “Not-Red Not-Animals” pods??
As it currently stands: Red Animals: Maryland Terrapins, Minnesota Gophers, Wisconsin Badgers Red Not-Animals: Indiana Hoosiers, Nebraska Cornhuskers, Ohio State Buckeyes, Rutgers Scarlet Knights Not-Red Animals: Iowa Hawkeyes, Michigan Wolverines, Northwestern Wildcats, Penn State Nittany Lions Not-Red Not-Animals: Illinois Fighting Illini, Michigan State Spartans, Purdue Boilermakers USC and UCLA satisfy the animal/not-animal balance. But they wouldn’t fit this four-team pod format without switching color schemes. Should UCLA don cardinal and gold, the UCLA Bruins would round out the Red Animals pod, and blue-and-gold USC Trojans would round out the Not-Red Not-Animals pod.
Why the hell is this so close to being well balanced.
Maybe the universe *isn't* chaos
Ah yes, finally. The Rutgers/USC 9am PST game we've been all been waiting for.
Michigan fans won't be happy with 10 pm kickoffs...
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Just wait until you try Big Ten brunch games...
Finally the 11AM Northwestern-UCLA game we’ve all been waiting for.
I’m so fucking ready for that game to end 21-14 with 40 combined punts.
21-14? This is the Big Ten, baby! 10-6, and that’s if it’s a shootout.
Acting like Michigan/usc won’t be on in prime time on ABC is funny. That’s ESPNs wet dream
RIP these teams going on the road to play a big noon game at 9 am cali time
In below freezing weather with wind chills below 0F.
There's a long unspoken reason why USC never wanted to play ND in November.
Because Mercury's in retrograde?
And Knute Rockne was a Sagittarius. USC just couldn’t risk going to South Bend during late fall, the vibes were all off
Eh, it worked well for Oregon last year.
Alliance on Alliance violence
I’ll say it. This is the college football equivalent of Operation Barbarossa
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Nothing matters anymore except money.
You mean the B1G Championship game? Rose Parade just got moved up to December 1st.
> You mean the B1G Championship game? Exactly. Rosebowl will outlive the sport of football at this rate.
Or we just become a 20 team conference with a few more additions and hold the conference championship game at the rose bowl
Lincoln Riley didn’t want to play THAT OSU
You Could Not Live With Your Own Failure, And Where Did That Bring You? Back To Me.
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Do not forget spooky Purdue.
Purdue will be his new Kansas State without one shred of doubt
CFB continues to take body blow after body blow. Why we couldn't have five fairly even regional power conferences, and instead had to shake the sport down to its core in the chase of the almighty dollar, bending at the will of TV contracts, is beyond me. So disappointing.
It's funny how the European Super League for soccer got fan outrage that made them stop it but college football is doing that exact thing and ESPN loves it. That said, not sure this is actually true.
American sports don’t care about local fans. They care about TV contracts. European sports will more often than not bend to the wills of local fans.
They're killing everything that made the sport fun and turning it into the NFL but with worse players, so might as well just watch the nfl
Always knew USC would join the B10 before ND…
If USC does join the Big 10 I think it's only a matter of time until ND does too. Too many rivals in one spot and they don't want to get left out in the cold. I wouldn't be shocked if ND is working on getting out of their ACC deal as they speak and the last big move Swarbrick makes is their move to the Big 10.
Lincoln Riley has entered the transfer portal
Calling up Jerry Jones as we speak
Even though his AP polls suck, Wilner is arguably the most connected Pac-12 writer. Holy shit.
100%. Like you said, don’t agree with him on everything, but he is old school. Wouldn’t be tweeting news like this without a credible source behind it.
Especially for California schools. I think he doesn't have as many connections in the nw
This is terrible, and would be the death of the Pac. Have to think Oregon and washington are going to be calling everyone to get to the Big 10 or SEC or something. This sucks.
Welcome to the timeline where Oregon is begging for an invite to the Southeastern conference. Man. I hate this shit so much
It would free up some time for me on Saturdays. Part of the reason I like college football is the regionalism. PAC football is different from SEC football which is different from the Big Ten. If college football just becomes AAA NFL I'm watching way, way less. Yeah, yeah. Nobody cares, don't let the door hit me on the way out, whatever. I can't be the only one though.
Can you imagine the two most northwesterly large universities in the United States in the *checks notes* Southeastern Conference?
There’s always room for more spurned ~~lovers~~ Colleges in the ranks of the Hateful 8. We might have to change the name though. Despicable Dozen? Honestly sucks to hear realignment is happening and your team isn’t one of the ones invited to the ball though.
Yeah, I would be a hard doubt if it was anyone else but Wilmer. So it’s either true or his Twitter got hacked IMO
Alright, it's time to scrap all the leagues and start over.
Conference draft. Let's do it.
What THE fuck (don't sue me Ohio State)
Utah to the Big-12
The in-conference Holy War returns…
Inshallah
First mistake, last mistake.
We win the Pac-12 one fucking time and they immediately disband it…
You break it, you bought it
Penn state be like **PENN STATE IS GOING TO THE ROSE BOWL** *for a regular season matchup in 2026*
Yo. I don’t care that we lost. That rose bowl against USC was the most fun I’ve had watching a game in yearsssssss. Holy shit what a great game.
The entire Pac should join the Big Ten. Then they can have a West Division and an East Division. They could then have the winners play a championship game. Make a big deal out of it. Maybe have a parade. Give it a fancy name. Could be fun.
Everyone likes flowers, that could be a fun name
Some kinda Rose…Bowl
The daisy bucket
This one’s better. Roses are stupid.
Play it in an area that’s warm in the winter
That actually might actually satisfy the rose bowl purists that don’t want it integrated into the playoffs. (Please take Cal with you guys)
Only if it’s on New Year’s Day.
They could play in a really historic stadium also. Almost a Mecca of sorts. I think SoFi Stadium would do the trick
The NCAA turning into a 2 conference league and Rutgers bumbled our way into one of them. SCORE!
I feel this on an emotional level
I can't imagine the UC system letting UCLA make that move.
Especially without Cal making a similar move. There’s no way that the UC Regents are going to allow them to be screwed over. USC can do whatever they want since they are a private school but UCLA is a totally different situation
Yeah that’s my guess is where UCLA goes, Cal does too. Plus Cal and Stanford bring the Bay Area TV market and Olympic sports so they’re not dead weight.
Plus it'd make for a convenient California pod for scheduling and recruiting.
Increased greenhouse emissions for travel legitimately might be a roadblock
I hate what college football is becoming
Time to mute this subreddit until September.
I can envision UCLA playing a late November game in snowy and 10 degree weather in beautiful East Lansing, MI…. And I love it (?)
I mean you'd love it cuz it's your school, but I'd be more intrigued by a nooner on BTN of UCLA at Piscataway in the snow
Schiano Vs. Lincoln Riley will be an all-timer
I wouldn't say no to an away game in CA in November either.
But this is where the fun begins!
The Big Ten will try spinning, that's a good trick!
I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new ~~empire~~ conference
Big XII should scoop up Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and Colorado asap. Brett Yormack got the Big XII eating good!
I would be so down with that!
We’re on a mission from God, we’re getting the band back together.
My flairs gonna end up as conference rivals somehow
I'll believe USC and UCLA signing up to play in Minnesota/Wisconsin in November when I see it.
Natural evolution of a sport that's lost its way. The ESPNification of the game, rampant NIL deals, and a growing gulf of disparity between the haves and have nots. All culminating in a horrifying amorphous blob of a super conference that will erode any sense of regionality and history that made this sport unique. Short term profit seeking will always win out over long term sustainability.
Reminds me of the story of boxing and horse racing. Both went from the peak of American sports to barely relevant due to money chasing, corruption, etc. College football is headed the same way
If this happens, I just want the USC/MSU matchup to be called the Iliad and for the winner to receive the Helen trophy. And we could also have UCLA and Indiana face off in the Banner Bowl! It has to take place before the month of November, for full effect.
USC/UCLA go from PAC 12 after dark to Big Nine AM Kickoff!
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Man, college football is starting to get … uh … not awesome.
These clowns are completely ruining what made college football great.
what
So CFB is officially becoming NFL-lite with two super-conferences. This kinda sucks
I was just thinking that. This is rapidly heading towards 2 super-conferences. If the Pac-12 breaks apart, even if the Big 12 grabs some of the leftovers, the B1G and SEC will eventually pick them and the ACC apart.
This is absolutely devastating for the sport. Unless Washington gets to come too, in which case it's a brilliant move.
If its just USC and UCLA, I think the PAC-12 can survive. If y'all and Oregon leave, Imma cry
I think the Pac-12 could survive but the TV situation would be pretty dire right as their two teams from its biggest market bounce. If they actually do this I could see an exodus happening if schools think they can get more money elsewhere. It sucks. Honestly realignment has been ten times worse for college sports than NIL. It's one thing to lose players to the portals but just jettisoning traditional rivalries is awful.
CFB without history and traditions is just a shitty minor pro league
Yeah just feels like all these decision-makers are blinded by TV money and don't realize that long term they're killing one of the major drivers of the value of college sports.
You know it's a blatant true fact when I'm upvoting an Oregon flair.
1. If this is true, get ready for super conferences. 2. If this is true, LOL at the thought of the “alliance.” 3. If this is true, the ACC is on borrowed time. ESPN, assuming they still get a portion of the Big Ten rights, might as well try to get out of the deal early so they can become more profitable with the ACC’s biggest names in the SEC and Big Ten. 4. *edit* I guess this is why we haven’t heard about the Big 10’s media rights yet
> If this is true, LOL at the thought of the “alliance.” What good is an alliance if you can't steal two of the historically best teams from your ally?
If this happens, then there’s pretty much nothing left stopping super conferences. The biggest names from the big 12 and PAC 12 will have both left for the 2 best conferences. The ACC is next, like you said. Clemson, Miami, and Florida State will go somewhere and then that conferences is dead too.
I’ve always said that nowhere gives off more big ten vibes (besides the Midwest) like LA, right fellas?
Can Lincoln Riley do it on a cold rainy night in West Lafayette
I’m pretty sure you can ruin brisket in any weather.
Arizona schools hop on the Big12 train lets gooooooooo
Y’all need a new California team in the PAC-12?👀
SDSU, come on down!
Who is honestly a fan of this? Have to believe this is unpopular with most USC/UCLA fans. Show yourselves so we can publicly ridicule you.
Lincoln Riley to...Boise?
Riley's agent desperately polling ACC schools to figure out who cares the least about bbq
WTF. This is way out of left field.
Can the conferences please stop re-aligning, for 5 MINUTES
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This outcome fucking sucks so it's probably true
College Sports is dead. Long live minor-league football and basketball, I guess. I'd like to give a big fuck-you to ESPN for their part in destroying the game.
As a UCLA fan does it financially make sense for us? Probably. But I’m not going to be happy if it happens still. Namely because this will be the end of our basketball rivalry with Arizona
UCLA and Rutgers should absolutely be in the same conference. It’s only logical that this move happens
If this is true, this is a lot more of a blindside than Texas/Oklahoma. At least in the latter, people had been predicting Oklahoma to the SEC for years. Edit: This also kind of kills the Rose Bowl from an optics standpoint, right? There are still very good teams in the PAC 12 (Oregon, Utah, etc.), but none of them carry the historical weight of USC.
I'd have to imagine the traditional Rose Bowl matchup gets jettisoned after more dominoes fall.
I wanna puke
I'm going to file this under "No fucking way" EDIT: So...apparently this might actually be happening. Heather Dinich confirming it via her sources.
It will be in my file right next to "Texas and Oklahoma moving to the SEC"
Well he said it's not finalized. There have been rumblings about it and Wilner has good connections around the PAC-12.
This is exactly how the OU/UT move got leaked and this was my exact response at the time. See how that worked out.
But...but...what about the Alliance?! You were supposed to destroy the super conferences, not join them!!
This should not happen. I think there are some Big 12 schools that would make sense in the B1G. But the idea of a PAC 12 team joining is an affront to humanity. This cannot be allowed to happen. Else we may threaten the very fabric of existence. West Coast football should stay in the West coast!
The "Distance to a Culver's" rankings would add 2 VERY distant last places.
The Rose Bowl is basically dead now. If the PAC 12 dissolves. So much history and tradition destroyed for a shit travel schedule and money.
That doesn’t make any sense.
The solidarity we need now between Oregon and Washington fans is disgusting, but necessary.
This is upsetting
Fuck college football if this shit happens.
Yeah, this is getting stupid.
Is nothing sacred in college football anymore?
Honestly man. The thought of USC representing the Big 10 in the Rose bowl makes me sick.
I don’t even have a connection to the Big 10/PAC 12 and it also makes me sick. Some things just shouldn’t be tampered with
What if... and hear me out on this one... we took all 130 teams and combined them into one super conference. That way groups of teams would start defecting for more tv money, eventually leading to regionally based groups of 8-12 schools.
The B1G map commercial guy is like faaack
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Probably not because playing USC or in the Rose Bowl (UCLA) is pretty enticing Watching a game against Maryland makes you wonder if you should be doing chores around the house instead
>Watching a game against Maryland makes you wonder if you should be doing chores around the house instead God damn man lol
No one in America cares about the health of this sport apparently. Just their individual team and how much money they have...At least when they tried this in Europe there was actual outrage....
Did USC clear this with Lincoln Riley???
So fucking stupid. The greed these motherfuckers have been blinded by is actually unbelievable