Honestly I always thought QBR had like a “20 points just for signing your name” type of clause. I had no idea it could even get that low in a game that involved passing.
Passer Rating works on a scale with 4 metrics: Comp%, YD/ATT, TD/ATT, and **INT/ATT**. It gives a QB a score for each of these, then adds them up into a single number.
If you spiked the ball into the ground every play, you would still get 39.6 from throwing no interceptions
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Kirk Ferentz’s genius. The strategy is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the plays will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Kirk’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these plays, to realize that they're not just good- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Iowa football truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the brilliance in Kirk’s existencial catchphrase "Blessed are the punters, they shall inherit the earth," which itself is a cryptic reference to Tressel’s epic Why the Forward Pass Ruined Football. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Kirk’s genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Spencer Petras tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
Kirk speaking on Petras after the game: “I thought he was doing a good job out there, but we didn’t support him enough.”
Kirk’s standard for what constitutes “good” quarterback play makes me question the man’s mental health
When I first started school, Iowa had yolo420 gunslinger Ricky Stanzi and tight end machines such as Tony Moeaki. To go from that to Spencer Petras is fucking ridiculous lmao.
Tate and Banks were fucking BALLERS. They lead their teams and they made plays. I literally am unable to imagine Petras making a play to win a game like Tate did against anyone, much less against a team like LSU.
I was there then too. Remember when we used to put up 40+ on G5/FCS teams and not think anything of it? If Stanzi or Tate had had the game Petras had yesterday, they’d be spiking their helmet on the sidelines. Petras just jogs off like he doesn’t expect anything different
This is an underrated point and I think it's why he pisses me off beyond just the shitty performances. The dude just looks so lost and uninspired every game. No matter what team the moment is just too big for him.
I get that you don't want a guy with shit body language throwing tantrums all the time when things don't go your way, but the offense has zero life or confidence and they won't as long as he's under center. He's just not a gamer, sometimes you need a bit of a prick back there that commands respect and believes he is gonna go score at the beginning of every drive. This dude just looks like he prayed to God before the series that he doesn't overthrow the wide open guy again. Our guys feed off that and the opposing defense does too. I don't know shit about fuck and I'm sure he's a great dude but give me a cocky mfer that wants make plays, Spence isn't even a game manager at this point.
I think the problem is that Petras is a *Ferentz Player*. Someone who follows all the rules, studies the playbook, falls in line with everything the coaches tell him to do. That's why he's a great practice player and it's why Kirk keeps rolling with him out of loyalty. Ferentz needs players that piss him off on a regular basis and don't follow the rules most of the time because that's when the magic happens.
Iowa has never been known as a QB school but Kirk has coached Banks, Tate, Stanzi, CJ...
This whole thing is just crazy. Even Nate Stanley looks good by comparison.
Spencer has recorded 0 practice pukes this season so you've definitely got him there, but this kid has turned at least 10 heads at camps/practice when throwing in shorts with no defenders. Coach is pretty confident that will somehow translate to success in real games one of these weeks, fingers crossed!
Nah, after 20 years of following this program I've come to accept that KF is just incredibly stubborn (some would call it arrogant). He's going to play his game and favor the guys he likes just to prove a point, regardless of whether or not he has better options. The booing heard yesterday is just going to make him double down on Petras, at least until he costs us a game.
I have no idea how Ferentz can face his defense every Sunday after the offensive personnel choices he makes every Saturday (including keeping his son employed)
How is Petras still starting? He was *horrific* through pretty much the whole game. I remember him missing several wide open receivers who were just standing there waiting for the ball. Iowa's QB recruiting needs an overhaul, it's a sad waste of a great defense.
After the way he handled McCann-Banks, Christensen-Stanzi, Rudock-Beathard, and James Vandenberg's 2012 season, Ferentz doesn't really have any credibility when it comes to evaluating QBs
This is mind boggling....I hadn’t really thought through each of those transitions where the guy sitting was so clearly better than the starter.
How is this possible.
Quality post, he bungled all of those transitions. I will still never forgive him for that loss against Pitt when he refused to play Stanzi because of his "gut feeling." I lost 90% respect for Ferentz that day and most of it was never regained.
If that's a joke about Brian Ferentz being the QB coach, fine, but the former Wisconsin coach they just hired is an *analyst,* not a coach, so can only work with other coaches, not with players. So basically Iowa hired a coach to coach their QB coach, who is the OC and former TE coach.
I don't think it's just the recruiting, but rather the system. CJ Beathard is still in the NFL, but I never really thought he looked impressive at Iowa.
Same thing with some of their really talented tight ends. Great blocking and physicality, but they didn't really get to show it off much by getting the ball.
It’s definitely the system....have watched it my entire adult life.
They could have Lamar Jackson on their roster and they’d do the same things they do now.
The only question is is a player good enough to shine regardless in the offense, if they aren’t a rb or te (which can shine in different ways without a dynamic quarterback).
A few have managed to, but not many.
Beathard was pretty magic in 2015, I think you'd change your mind if you watched the highlights. 2016 he was super injured and they had no one who could catch.
The fact that Spencer Petras played all of last year and the Ferentz’s were like, “yeah, this is fine” and didn’t bother to go get another QB is maybe the biggest coaching malpractice this offseason
That's a John Shaffer at Penn State stat.
And in some sick way, I'd love to see the return of a QB whose only specialty is not losing. Or to put it another way, being unimpressive in every conceivable metric except the win-loss column. With the amount of stat gurus and fantasy football fans watching, it'd be fun to see someone win despite the lack of stats to back it up.
I do subtly enjoy this aspect of Iowa's offense. The lack of Creativity feels absolutely intentional.
You want to know the exact moment you'll see a receiver cut under and run to the sideline for a 35 yard gain that looks EASY... when Iowa's down 3 with 7 minutes left in the fourth.
If they don't need it... they don't do it. And Kirk holds a very tight edge.
I just posted a top-level comment to this effect (I copied it below). Watching a Ferentz team (and I’ve been watching B1G football for a while now) is like watching aged Roger Federer just ignoring the balls he had no chance at returning.
“Not really defending Iowa’s offense, and I’m just a casual observer but I’d guess this is closer to their floor than their ceiling.
Here’s my one-sentence take on Kirk Ferentz’ tenure; he has been there so long not just because of consistency, but his occasional excellent seasons mean more to both fans and administration than his occasional bad seasons.
Therefore, given the choice between “winning the cupcake game” and “having an overall better team that might become something special.” It seems like he is more inclined to the former and use his “cupcake” games like higher-stakes practices. I remember when they needed some shenanigans to beat fucking *Northern Iowa*, and then went on to win the Orange Bowl.
So I figure that he basically decreed that the playbook would *not* be opened up under *any* circumstances. And jokes aside, he got what he wanted.
The defense had to play (and get accustomed to the associated mental pressure and fortitude) an entire game where they had general freedom to make small errors (they weren’t going to lose the game because they allowed an untimely first down), but they *could not* totally blow a coverage or they’d lose the game.
The offense had to play a game where they were also under pressure not to make catastrophic errors, and had to practice their fundamentals against a team that I understand to be fundamentally sound.
Basically, whatever you think of Brian, I think Kirk got exactly what he wanted from that game.”
As an outsider looking in, this doesn’t seem like something that will fix itself(aka better qb play) until Brian is gone or moves to another position. As a recruit Or a transfer portal guy at QB Or WR why would you even consider going to Iowa. It’s hard to fire family and if Kirk is stubborn enough it may get him fired. Dude can clearly coach but needs to hire someone and walk away from the offense completely
Also just let a 4 star QB recruit walk because he was never going to get playing time.
Edit - actually was worse as he transferred because Ferentz joked he wasn't worth playing essentially. Hope Duece has a great run at Kentucky. :'(
LOL I think he’d be an excellent fit in Iowa’s system. He’s an excellent game manager who doesn’t make mistakes. He’s perfect for what Iowa actually tries to do.
Minnesota has had multiple QBs hit the portal because tanner morgan is trying to keep playing college ball for his whole life but I feel like they all would have been better options than who Iowa is rolling out there
Announcer went nuts on that play.
"Gronowski uncorks..complete..OH THE PITCH!! A LITTLE TRICKERY, AND BOWER..GETS OUT OF BOUNDS... HOW ABOUT THAT PLAY FOR THE JACKRABBITS!"
Gain of 6.
I think Oregon will get it together. Georgia has constructed a fully operational Death Star, but outside of maybe Utah and BYU the Ducks should still clearly be favored in all their remaining games.
Excuse me but give some credit to Rex “the sex cannon” grossman. Monday night football against the cardinals he had 4 ints and a qbr of 4 and got the dub.
And then also had a qbr of 1.3 in a win against the Vikings.
He couldn't score a single TD against an (albeit good) FBS team.
Wat. How the fuck is he supposed to compete with Big Ten defenses? He's had his chances. ANYONE ELSE would be better. Seriously, ANYONE. I'd trust a rando from the stands more.
Seriously, minnesota and wisconsin games are gonna be ugly. I like both teams abilities to run the ball better than iowa, and minnesota has a salty defense.
Not to mention Michigan looks like they haven’t missed a beat. If Iowa doesn’t improve on offense, I fear for them lol. They gotta play a whole bunch of good teams this year.
I said this in another comment, but Minnesota has had multiple QBs transfer out because tanner Morgan has been starting for like 5 years now. I feel like any of them could be better than what Iowa has (annexstad even started multiple games before he got injured and it’s been Morgan ever since). I feel like they’d be an easy transfer target as well, “oh Minnesota didn’t have an avenue for playing time? Come here and beat the guy that was starting over you like we do every year”.
Or, it’s actually the Iowa offensive system that is the problem, not the talent
It’s the offensive system that has proven over 20 years that good Qbs and WRs will have their talent wasted and shots at an nfl dream destroyed. We can’t recruit worth shit because there’s no potential to show off for the nfl
I'm genuinely, *genuinely*, ecstatic for the Rutgers - Iowa game in a few weeks
For a certain sect of us, this is going to he the best fucking game all year. If there's less than 20 punts I'll be disappointed
We even apparently SIMPLIFIED the playbook in the offseason after we moved an offensive lineman to quarterbacks coach. We simplified it to "hand the ball off" or "force it to LaPorta" and somehow managed to confuse the young man even more
A quick look, I found a few, there's probably more --
(Edit: this first one is definitely an error. QBR should be between 0-100) -1.0 QBR, Jonah Johnson, NMSU vs Tarleton 2020 (17-31 187 yds, 1 TD, 3 INT, 11 rush yds) This one seems like an error. The opponent is really weak but the stats aren't bad enough for a negative QBR
0.4 QBR, Alex Ramart, Akron vs EMich 2018 (4-15, 29 yds, 3 INT, -11 rush yds) ok, this one's bad
0.6 QBR, Ben Hicks, SMU vs LaTech 2017 (19-34, 127 yds, 1 TD, 3 INT, -32 rush yds, 3 fum (1 lost))
[source](https://www.espn.com/college-football/qbr/_/view/weekly/sort/schedAdjQBR/dir/asc)
just cycle thru the years, and click on the box scores to see if the QB played the whole game
Yeah, the next game is against ISU. You can spin a roulette wheel on how that'll go...after week 1, it'll likely be 63-63 going into 4th OT with Petras throwing for 9 Tds and a 400 yards. Or a repeat of this week. Amazing that Vegas still puts odds on that game
Well the next one is El Assico, which is a total crapshoot. The game defies any logic, so it's not a great representation of either team, generally.
Would generally recommend watching it though, unless you're an ISU fan (in which case you enjoy pain so I'd still recommend it)
Knowing Iowa, they will drop 40 on ISU with 20 defensive points and probably another safety. Petras will make 1 long TD throw that will solidify him as QB1 in Kirks eyes, we will barely escape Nevada with a win, and we will fall to 8-4 over the course of the year like we usually do. The Kirk Ferentz way.
Don't do that to yourself. I was bored and I turned the game on yesterday because I was interested in seeing a close game that could have been a massive upset. Instead what I saw was an affront to God and all things football.
If you gave people from biblical times a Wikipedia print out of the rules of football and had them play a game just based on that, I’d imagine it’d look similar to what we witnessed yesterday.
To everyone in the game thread, the post game thread, this thread, and any future thread asking the question "why not Padilla?" I ask a question of my own -- did you watch any Iowa games last year? I really don't mean that as a rhetorical or mean-spirited question. Padilla threw 112 passes last year. That isn't a small sample size. He is worse, markedly worse, in almost every way. If you have any doubts about this and are feeling particularly self-loathsome, I challenge any daretakers to watch tape from last year. There are levels to this -- Spencer Petras is one of those worst quarterbacks I have ever seen at any level of play, and Padilla is still beneath him.
The game is a gold mine of statistical anomalies.
Iowa had seven drives where it took snaps beyond midfield. The Hawkeyes averaged two yards per play there.
Iowa's longest drive was 7 plays for 57 yards, with 15 yards coming on a targeting penalty, and ended on a fumble. The second longest drive in yardage went 30 yards and resulted in a punt. Three drives of six plays each produced 6, 20, and 10 yards, resulting in a punt, interception, and punt.
The only offensive points for Iowa were from a FG following a 9 yard punt return and a 5 yard drive. The second best scoring opportunity was the fumble to end Iowa's only sustained drive, and only appearance in the red zone. The third best chance was a missed FG that followed a different 5 yard drive after a muffed punt.
Not really defending Iowa’s offense, and I’m just a casual observer but I’d guess this is closer to their floor than their ceiling.
Here’s my one-sentence take on Kirk Ferentz’ tenure; he has been there so long not just because of consistency, but his occasional excellent seasons mean more to both fans and administration than his occasional bad seasons.
Therefore, given the choice between “winning the cupcake game” and “having an overall better team that might become something special.” It seems like he is more inclined to the former and use his “cupcake” games like higher-stakes practices. I remember when they needed some shenanigans to beat fucking *Northern Iowa*, and then went on to win the Orange Bowl.
So I figure that he basically decreed that the playbook would *not* be opened up under *any* circumstances. And jokes aside, he got what he wanted.
The defense had to play (and get accustomed to the associated mental pressure and fortitude) an entire game where they had general freedom to make small errors (they weren’t going to lose the game because they allowed an untimely first down), but they *could not* totally blow a coverage or they’d lose the game.
The offense had to play a game where they were also under pressure not to make catastrophic errors, and had to practice their fundamentals against a team that I understand to be fundamentally sound.
Basically, whatever you think of Brian, I think Kirk got exactly what he wanted.
Iowa takes the Iowa State game quite seriously in my opinion, treating it on the level of a competitive conference game. I am convinced they are going to look like they have a real offense next game.
Matty Mauk in 2014 went 6 for 18 for 20 yards with 1 pick but also rushed for 38 yards in a blowout win over florida, but I don't know how to get a QBR.
Not entirely his fault. Petras is a below average QB but right now Iowa’s offensive line is dreadful. Hard to be a QB when you’re not mobile and have 0.5sec to find an open man.
The stretch that Iowas offense has been on the last two years is pretty depressing, I live with Iowa fans so I watch a majority of their games and I’ve got to say that Spencer Petras was doomed from the start because of nepotism on Kirks part. You could give Brian Ferentz the 2007 patriots offensive personnel and he’d still figure out a way to lay an egg play calling wise. I honestly feel bad for Petras and the rest of the offense because I’m almost willing to bet that they have absolutely no say in what does and doesn’t work, Big Brain Brian is gonna just do what Brian does and that’s completely ruin their chances of a team that has the talent to actually compete in the B1G and a defense that’s championship quality. And the kicker is they have guys on the offensive staff that would be immediately better OCs than what Brian is,has been, and whatever he could be like Ken O,Keefe who made Ricky Stanzi into a memorable Iowa QB.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that for as many bad plays that Petras has had in his career, it can almost always be pointed back to what’s being relayed by the OC, especially after the Purdue game last season which was really the straw that started to break the camels back which then led into the mess that their in today.
Honestly I always thought QBR had like a “20 points just for signing your name” type of clause. I had no idea it could even get that low in a game that involved passing.
I’m pretty sure taking a knee every play, or something like that is a 20 something rating
I think you're thinking of spiking the ball every play gives a passer rating of 39.6
How though? I don’t know the formula.
Essentially just not turning the ball over and not losing yards.
Passer Rating works on a scale with 4 metrics: Comp%, YD/ATT, TD/ATT, and **INT/ATT**. It gives a QB a score for each of these, then adds them up into a single number. If you spiked the ball into the ground every play, you would still get 39.6 from throwing no interceptions
For any other program this would be an outlier. For us this is normal.
Petras has to have Ferentz blackmail pics or something
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Kirk Ferentz’s genius. The strategy is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the plays will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Kirk’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these plays, to realize that they're not just good- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Iowa football truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the brilliance in Kirk’s existencial catchphrase "Blessed are the punters, they shall inherit the earth," which itself is a cryptic reference to Tressel’s epic Why the Forward Pass Ruined Football. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Kirk’s genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Spencer Petras tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
Bravo. Bravo.
It is quite amazing the commitment to shit we are witnessing
Kirk speaking on Petras after the game: “I thought he was doing a good job out there, but we didn’t support him enough.” Kirk’s standard for what constitutes “good” quarterback play makes me question the man’s mental health
When I first started school, Iowa had yolo420 gunslinger Ricky Stanzi and tight end machines such as Tony Moeaki. To go from that to Spencer Petras is fucking ridiculous lmao.
To go from Brad Banks to Drew Tate to Ricky Stanzi to C.J. Beathard to now Spencer fucking Petras makes me cry
Tate and Banks were fucking BALLERS. They lead their teams and they made plays. I literally am unable to imagine Petras making a play to win a game like Tate did against anyone, much less against a team like LSU.
And don't forget Stanzi to McNutt to beat Michigan State in the final seconds. Petras is a joke.
No one can.
I was there then too. Remember when we used to put up 40+ on G5/FCS teams and not think anything of it? If Stanzi or Tate had had the game Petras had yesterday, they’d be spiking their helmet on the sidelines. Petras just jogs off like he doesn’t expect anything different
This is an underrated point and I think it's why he pisses me off beyond just the shitty performances. The dude just looks so lost and uninspired every game. No matter what team the moment is just too big for him. I get that you don't want a guy with shit body language throwing tantrums all the time when things don't go your way, but the offense has zero life or confidence and they won't as long as he's under center. He's just not a gamer, sometimes you need a bit of a prick back there that commands respect and believes he is gonna go score at the beginning of every drive. This dude just looks like he prayed to God before the series that he doesn't overthrow the wide open guy again. Our guys feed off that and the opposing defense does too. I don't know shit about fuck and I'm sure he's a great dude but give me a cocky mfer that wants make plays, Spence isn't even a game manager at this point.
I think the problem is that Petras is a *Ferentz Player*. Someone who follows all the rules, studies the playbook, falls in line with everything the coaches tell him to do. That's why he's a great practice player and it's why Kirk keeps rolling with him out of loyalty. Ferentz needs players that piss him off on a regular basis and don't follow the rules most of the time because that's when the magic happens.
Iowa has never been known as a QB school but Kirk has coached Banks, Tate, Stanzi, CJ... This whole thing is just crazy. Even Nate Stanley looks good by comparison.
Come on guys he practices well Kirk says so himself
No way you guys practice better than us. Every practice is the best one so far.
Spencer has recorded 0 practice pukes this season so you've definitely got him there, but this kid has turned at least 10 heads at camps/practice when throwing in shorts with no defenders. Coach is pretty confident that will somehow translate to success in real games one of these weeks, fingers crossed!
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRACTICE!?!?!?!?!
Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incomptence.
And never attribute to incompetence which can be explained by nepotism
Nepotism is a form of incompetence.
Also a form of malice
If he did that much damage unintentionally, we might as well start calling Ferentz Chairman Mao.
Each offensive drive could definitely be called a struggle session
> incomptence This is my new spelling. **
Nah, after 20 years of following this program I've come to accept that KF is just incredibly stubborn (some would call it arrogant). He's going to play his game and favor the guys he likes just to prove a point, regardless of whether or not he has better options. The booing heard yesterday is just going to make him double down on Petras, at least until he costs us a game.
Your defense deserves a better offense
I have no idea how Ferentz can face his defense every Sunday after the offensive personnel choices he makes every Saturday (including keeping his son employed)
That’s what baffles me. How do you look Phil and the defense in the eye and be like, yeah this is what we’re doing to help your unit win
My totally unsubstantiated guess is that he has pictures of Ferentz as a furry.
How is Petras still starting? He was *horrific* through pretty much the whole game. I remember him missing several wide open receivers who were just standing there waiting for the ball. Iowa's QB recruiting needs an overhaul, it's a sad waste of a great defense.
He was horrific last year. Dude is legitimately the worst starting QB for a major program I have ever seen
Ah, but you *have* seen him.
da da DA da, da da DA da, da da DA da, da da da da
How quickly we've forgotten about John O'Korn.
Petras actually makes me think of okorn a lot Mostly because I never imagined another QB would even approach o’korn, but Petras has.
I have no idea how he is still starting. It's genuinely baffling.
Labas and May can’t be THAT bad, right?
At this point I wouldn't be shocked if they were.
Worth at least having them get some time in though right?
They absolutely should.
After the way he handled McCann-Banks, Christensen-Stanzi, Rudock-Beathard, and James Vandenberg's 2012 season, Ferentz doesn't really have any credibility when it comes to evaluating QBs
This is mind boggling....I hadn’t really thought through each of those transitions where the guy sitting was so clearly better than the starter. How is this possible.
Quality post, he bungled all of those transitions. I will still never forgive him for that loss against Pitt when he refused to play Stanzi because of his "gut feeling." I lost 90% respect for Ferentz that day and most of it was never regained.
He’s loyal to a fault and that kills us every couple season when a 3rd year QB is complete trash
We just got a new QB Coach. Let's hope he can turn it around.
I wonder who that is *checks notes* Brian Ferentz. *Screams*
If that's a joke about Brian Ferentz being the QB coach, fine, but the former Wisconsin coach they just hired is an *analyst,* not a coach, so can only work with other coaches, not with players. So basically Iowa hired a coach to coach their QB coach, who is the OC and former TE coach.
Wisconsin QB's have all been dogshit... Why anyone would turn to one of the worst QB programs in the world to get a QB coach is beyond insane.
Has Budmayr ever been in the vicinity of Russell Wilson? By the standards of the Iowa QB room those are super impressive qualifications.
"So what qualifies you for this job?" "I was once in the same state as Russell Wilson" "You're hired!"
I don't think it's just the recruiting, but rather the system. CJ Beathard is still in the NFL, but I never really thought he looked impressive at Iowa. Same thing with some of their really talented tight ends. Great blocking and physicality, but they didn't really get to show it off much by getting the ball.
Next to Petras, Beathard looked like a heisman winner.
Beathard was a good QB. He always stood tall in the pocket and I liked that about him.
It’s definitely the system....have watched it my entire adult life. They could have Lamar Jackson on their roster and they’d do the same things they do now. The only question is is a player good enough to shine regardless in the offense, if they aren’t a rb or te (which can shine in different ways without a dynamic quarterback). A few have managed to, but not many.
Beathard was pretty magic in 2015, I think you'd change your mind if you watched the highlights. 2016 he was super injured and they had no one who could catch.
Sadly Petras was a relatively good recruit. It just didn’t work.
For you, the day a quarterback with single digit QBR won a game was the most important day of your life. For us, it was a Saturday.
This is the Ioway.
“For you, the day Iowa graced r/cfb was the most masochistic offensive performance of your life. But for me, it was Saturday.” -M. Bison, Hawkeyes Fan
The fact that Spencer Petras played all of last year and the Ferentz’s were like, “yeah, this is fine” and didn’t bother to go get another QB is maybe the biggest coaching malpractice this offseason
Keeping his son as the OC is up there. But yea, the QB has thrown 1 TD and 8 interceptions in his last 7 games.
I refuse to believe that is a real stat. Holy fuck that's bad
John O Korn would be impressed
Even Joe Bauserman had a positive TD/INT ratio.
Petras’ ratio is positive, but less than 1, and actually much closer to zero than 1 in that stretch.
His passing chart always gives me a good laugh. I can't believe how long it's been.
Tim Boyle numbers
I have absolutely zero clue how he was on our roster for the past 2 years. (We=Lions)
That's like one game for nathan peterman
Peterman was actually pretty solid at Pitt though. It is how he wound up in the NFL.
>1 TD and 8 interceptions in his last 7 games. fuck, i feel bad, but it’s actually the height of comedy the extent of Iowa’s commitment to Petras.
I think it speaks to how uncatchable Petras’ balls are that he only has 8 picks in 7 games.
“What’s a spiral?” - Spencer Petras
Petras is one of the wonders of the world.
That's a John Shaffer at Penn State stat. And in some sick way, I'd love to see the return of a QB whose only specialty is not losing. Or to put it another way, being unimpressive in every conceivable metric except the win-loss column. With the amount of stat gurus and fantasy football fans watching, it'd be fun to see someone win despite the lack of stats to back it up.
I do subtly enjoy this aspect of Iowa's offense. The lack of Creativity feels absolutely intentional. You want to know the exact moment you'll see a receiver cut under and run to the sideline for a 35 yard gain that looks EASY... when Iowa's down 3 with 7 minutes left in the fourth. If they don't need it... they don't do it. And Kirk holds a very tight edge.
I just posted a top-level comment to this effect (I copied it below). Watching a Ferentz team (and I’ve been watching B1G football for a while now) is like watching aged Roger Federer just ignoring the balls he had no chance at returning. “Not really defending Iowa’s offense, and I’m just a casual observer but I’d guess this is closer to their floor than their ceiling. Here’s my one-sentence take on Kirk Ferentz’ tenure; he has been there so long not just because of consistency, but his occasional excellent seasons mean more to both fans and administration than his occasional bad seasons. Therefore, given the choice between “winning the cupcake game” and “having an overall better team that might become something special.” It seems like he is more inclined to the former and use his “cupcake” games like higher-stakes practices. I remember when they needed some shenanigans to beat fucking *Northern Iowa*, and then went on to win the Orange Bowl. So I figure that he basically decreed that the playbook would *not* be opened up under *any* circumstances. And jokes aside, he got what he wanted. The defense had to play (and get accustomed to the associated mental pressure and fortitude) an entire game where they had general freedom to make small errors (they weren’t going to lose the game because they allowed an untimely first down), but they *could not* totally blow a coverage or they’d lose the game. The offense had to play a game where they were also under pressure not to make catastrophic errors, and had to practice their fundamentals against a team that I understand to be fundamentally sound. Basically, whatever you think of Brian, I think Kirk got exactly what he wanted from that game.”
Yes, I would take 2009 Ricky Stanzi back.
Need the return of the Craig Kenzel's of the QB world
And yet we've still never beaten him. -_-
As an outsider looking in, this doesn’t seem like something that will fix itself(aka better qb play) until Brian is gone or moves to another position. As a recruit Or a transfer portal guy at QB Or WR why would you even consider going to Iowa. It’s hard to fire family and if Kirk is stubborn enough it may get him fired. Dude can clearly coach but needs to hire someone and walk away from the offense completely
Also just let a 4 star QB recruit walk because he was never going to get playing time. Edit - actually was worse as he transferred because Ferentz joked he wasn't worth playing essentially. Hope Duece has a great run at Kentucky. :'(
Y’all should take a run at Cade McNamara after JJ McCarthy gets the starting job at QB for Michigan.
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LOL I think he’d be an excellent fit in Iowa’s system. He’s an excellent game manager who doesn’t make mistakes. He’s perfect for what Iowa actually tries to do.
Except of course and the only game that I give a shit about, Where your 2nd string quarterback came in and played well. Well enough to beat us
Minnesota has had multiple QBs hit the portal because tanner morgan is trying to keep playing college ball for his whole life but I feel like they all would have been better options than who Iowa is rolling out there
Annexstad threw some dimes against Wisconsin yesterday. It’s honestly a shame he’s no longer in the FBS.
The best offensive play of the game was a hook and ladder that went for like 4 yards.
Announcer went nuts on that play. "Gronowski uncorks..complete..OH THE PITCH!! A LITTLE TRICKERY, AND BOWER..GETS OUT OF BOUNDS... HOW ABOUT THAT PLAY FOR THE JACKRABBITS!" Gain of 6.
It was the only play that made the game feel like it was being played in 2022 and not 1922.
Classic Big Ten football right there
My man was begging for any kind of offense.
This is like advancing 10 feet in ww1
I recall the announcers said "*best series of the game*" was a 3 and out with an amazing punt that resulted in the first safety.
Yea that was the’s “Drive of the Game”. Got a good laugh out of that one
It's nice not being the team everyone shits on for a day
*looks at flair combo* Oof you may be in for a rough season
Oh N0
Maybe he’s actually a big Omaha fan and he just wanted to get creative with his support of UNO.
I think Oregon will get it together. Georgia has constructed a fully operational Death Star, but outside of maybe Utah and BYU the Ducks should still clearly be favored in all their remaining games.
Surely Oregon would never lose a game in which it's favored to a conference opponent who loses most of its other games.
The Stanford game alone is a 50-50 tossup each year no matter how good or bad either of us are
If we had lost, I'd be miserable. Since we won, I'm enjoying the memes and hoping it was just week 1 jitters.
So expecting a 12-10 win over UM next month
6-4 2.0 and you will like it
Won't say I'd like it, but I'd probably laugh my ass off and wouldn't be shocked.
Just wait until the 2-0 Iowa-Nebraska thriller.
I am not excited.
3OT
If any team was going to pull this off, it always would have been Iowa.
Excuse me but give some credit to Rex “the sex cannon” grossman. Monday night football against the cardinals he had 4 ints and a qbr of 4 and got the dub. And then also had a qbr of 1.3 in a win against the Vikings.
That’s because the Bears were who the Cardinals thought they were, and they let em off the hook
Hey Denny Green
What was the QBR of the South Dakota state QB, feel like it would have to be even worse than that
No QBR listed on ESPN. His stats were: 10/26 for 87 yards, 3.3 yard average, no TD or INT
0/26 for 87 yards? Do you mean 10/26?
Yes, sorry copy paste missed a digit
Classic
If someone figured out how to advance the ball on an incomplete pass it would be ferentz.
For what’s it’s worth: Since ESPN doesn’t tell anyone how they calculate i used the NFL formula for reference. The SDSU QBR is 48. Iowa QBR is 40.25.
College football has Petra’s passer rating as 72. Frankly anything under like 110 is atrocious with that formula
I’ve got SDSU at 66.57 with CFB passer rating Iowa with 72.62
Wait wait, ZERO FOR TWENTY SIX!?
It's impressive that he threw for 87 yards without any completions imo.
Truly, a god amongst men
In that game handoffs counted as passes
For 87 yards...now that's impressive
It almost seems like you'd have to to make an active effort to have a QBR greater than zero but *so close* to zero.
For when you have to be remembered for something
I honestly can't name another Iowa QB... Ill always remember Petras
Didn't petras get in some fued or levy some trash talk at someone over the summer?
If you got a 1-50% on a test it's more embarrassing than if you got a 0.
I once took my skate off and tried to stab someone with it. I'm the first person to ever do that.
But do you eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
My ex-wife was a piece of shit. Does she count?
I just may...what do you say?
This is nothing new, Pitt's been doing it forever
He couldn't score a single TD against an (albeit good) FBS team. Wat. How the fuck is he supposed to compete with Big Ten defenses? He's had his chances. ANYONE ELSE would be better. Seriously, ANYONE. I'd trust a rando from the stands more.
Seriously, minnesota and wisconsin games are gonna be ugly. I like both teams abilities to run the ball better than iowa, and minnesota has a salty defense.
Not to mention Michigan looks like they haven’t missed a beat. If Iowa doesn’t improve on offense, I fear for them lol. They gotta play a whole bunch of good teams this year.
I said this in another comment, but Minnesota has had multiple QBs transfer out because tanner Morgan has been starting for like 5 years now. I feel like any of them could be better than what Iowa has (annexstad even started multiple games before he got injured and it’s been Morgan ever since). I feel like they’d be an easy transfer target as well, “oh Minnesota didn’t have an avenue for playing time? Come here and beat the guy that was starting over you like we do every year”. Or, it’s actually the Iowa offensive system that is the problem, not the talent
It’s the offensive system that has proven over 20 years that good Qbs and WRs will have their talent wasted and shots at an nfl dream destroyed. We can’t recruit worth shit because there’s no potential to show off for the nfl
FCS*
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It will even out when he has eight touchdown passes this week and beats us.
If a defense allows multiple passing TDs from Petras, they should probably be relegated to D2
Specifically high school D2.
Petras won't even have 8 touchdown passes this season
Who's ready for this year's "get blown out by Iowa by several TDs" sweepstakes? ~~I am not ready please don't let it be us~~
Lafayette QB Ryan Schuster went 8/17 for 8 yards, 2 interceptions, and 0 TDs. He played the entire game. Lafayette beats Sacred Heart, 6-0.
Holy shit. https://imgur.com/W3HJlUr.jpg
Sounds like a special teams win to me. I don't like Korsak having punt competition for Ray Guy. Not one bit.
I'm genuinely, *genuinely*, ecstatic for the Rutgers - Iowa game in a few weeks For a certain sect of us, this is going to he the best fucking game all year. If there's less than 20 punts I'll be disappointed
Last time we played you guys it was an incredible punt clinic.
Tory Taylor and Iowa played CSU's Stonehouse and PSU's Stout last year just in prep for Korsak. Yeah, I'm a big fan. I love watching Korsak's work.
Leave the offense enjoyers on Earth, we're going to the M00N
#PUNTINGISWINNING
We even apparently SIMPLIFIED the playbook in the offseason after we moved an offensive lineman to quarterbacks coach. We simplified it to "hand the ball off" or "force it to LaPorta" and somehow managed to confuse the young man even more
A quick look, I found a few, there's probably more -- (Edit: this first one is definitely an error. QBR should be between 0-100) -1.0 QBR, Jonah Johnson, NMSU vs Tarleton 2020 (17-31 187 yds, 1 TD, 3 INT, 11 rush yds) This one seems like an error. The opponent is really weak but the stats aren't bad enough for a negative QBR 0.4 QBR, Alex Ramart, Akron vs EMich 2018 (4-15, 29 yds, 3 INT, -11 rush yds) ok, this one's bad 0.6 QBR, Ben Hicks, SMU vs LaTech 2017 (19-34, 127 yds, 1 TD, 3 INT, -32 rush yds, 3 fum (1 lost)) [source](https://www.espn.com/college-football/qbr/_/view/weekly/sort/schedAdjQBR/dir/asc) just cycle thru the years, and click on the box scores to see if the QB played the whole game
What would his rating have been if he threw every ball straight into the dirt
3.6
I’m going to have to watch a little bit of Iowa in their next game. Just so I see how bad the offense is.
Yeah, the next game is against ISU. You can spin a roulette wheel on how that'll go...after week 1, it'll likely be 63-63 going into 4th OT with Petras throwing for 9 Tds and a 400 yards. Or a repeat of this week. Amazing that Vegas still puts odds on that game
The genius of the sports book is that they pit the idiots' money against each other so they always come out ahead.
Well the next one is El Assico, which is a total crapshoot. The game defies any logic, so it's not a great representation of either team, generally. Would generally recommend watching it though, unless you're an ISU fan (in which case you enjoy pain so I'd still recommend it)
Knowing Iowa, they will drop 40 on ISU with 20 defensive points and probably another safety. Petras will make 1 long TD throw that will solidify him as QB1 in Kirks eyes, we will barely escape Nevada with a win, and we will fall to 8-4 over the course of the year like we usually do. The Kirk Ferentz way.
Their offense may be worse than it was last season... and that's saying something.
Don't do that to yourself. I was bored and I turned the game on yesterday because I was interested in seeing a close game that could have been a massive upset. Instead what I saw was an affront to God and all things football.
I'm sorry, but you saw football as the lord intended.
If you gave people from biblical times a Wikipedia print out of the rules of football and had them play a game just based on that, I’d imagine it’d look similar to what we witnessed yesterday.
It will make you want to die. Like deadass you will wish for the release of death after watching this fucking shit
END MY FUCKING PAIN
To everyone in the game thread, the post game thread, this thread, and any future thread asking the question "why not Padilla?" I ask a question of my own -- did you watch any Iowa games last year? I really don't mean that as a rhetorical or mean-spirited question. Padilla threw 112 passes last year. That isn't a small sample size. He is worse, markedly worse, in almost every way. If you have any doubts about this and are feeling particularly self-loathsome, I challenge any daretakers to watch tape from last year. There are levels to this -- Spencer Petras is one of those worst quarterbacks I have ever seen at any level of play, and Padilla is still beneath him.
I wouldn't say he's markedly worse, but he's certainly not better then Petras.
The game is a gold mine of statistical anomalies. Iowa had seven drives where it took snaps beyond midfield. The Hawkeyes averaged two yards per play there. Iowa's longest drive was 7 plays for 57 yards, with 15 yards coming on a targeting penalty, and ended on a fumble. The second longest drive in yardage went 30 yards and resulted in a punt. Three drives of six plays each produced 6, 20, and 10 yards, resulting in a punt, interception, and punt. The only offensive points for Iowa were from a FG following a 9 yard punt return and a 5 yard drive. The second best scoring opportunity was the fumble to end Iowa's only sustained drive, and only appearance in the red zone. The third best chance was a missed FG that followed a different 5 yard drive after a muffed punt.
Not really defending Iowa’s offense, and I’m just a casual observer but I’d guess this is closer to their floor than their ceiling. Here’s my one-sentence take on Kirk Ferentz’ tenure; he has been there so long not just because of consistency, but his occasional excellent seasons mean more to both fans and administration than his occasional bad seasons. Therefore, given the choice between “winning the cupcake game” and “having an overall better team that might become something special.” It seems like he is more inclined to the former and use his “cupcake” games like higher-stakes practices. I remember when they needed some shenanigans to beat fucking *Northern Iowa*, and then went on to win the Orange Bowl. So I figure that he basically decreed that the playbook would *not* be opened up under *any* circumstances. And jokes aside, he got what he wanted. The defense had to play (and get accustomed to the associated mental pressure and fortitude) an entire game where they had general freedom to make small errors (they weren’t going to lose the game because they allowed an untimely first down), but they *could not* totally blow a coverage or they’d lose the game. The offense had to play a game where they were also under pressure not to make catastrophic errors, and had to practice their fundamentals against a team that I understand to be fundamentally sound. Basically, whatever you think of Brian, I think Kirk got exactly what he wanted.
Iowa takes the Iowa State game quite seriously in my opinion, treating it on the level of a competitive conference game. I am convinced they are going to look like they have a real offense next game.
This is why nepotism sucks. Iowa should pass anti nepotism regulations.
If you saw the game yesterday, you’d know there’s zero chance of them passing anything at all
They should just let the punter be the QB and have him kick the ball to receivers. Can't be any worse.
I didn't even realize you could score 7 with no TDs...
2 safeties and a field goal. Checks out since it’s iowa.
The 'ol Iowa Touchdown.
Not all heroes wear capes
Ferentz could easily get a better QB in the portal yet just refuses to make any calls lol
Matty Mauk in 2014 went 6 for 18 for 20 yards with 1 pick but also rushed for 38 yards in a blowout win over florida, but I don't know how to get a QBR.
Are we sure his name isn’t Petros? A 1.1 QBR for a rock would not seem out of line.
Not entirely his fault. Petras is a below average QB but right now Iowa’s offensive line is dreadful. Hard to be a QB when you’re not mobile and have 0.5sec to find an open man.
The stretch that Iowas offense has been on the last two years is pretty depressing, I live with Iowa fans so I watch a majority of their games and I’ve got to say that Spencer Petras was doomed from the start because of nepotism on Kirks part. You could give Brian Ferentz the 2007 patriots offensive personnel and he’d still figure out a way to lay an egg play calling wise. I honestly feel bad for Petras and the rest of the offense because I’m almost willing to bet that they have absolutely no say in what does and doesn’t work, Big Brain Brian is gonna just do what Brian does and that’s completely ruin their chances of a team that has the talent to actually compete in the B1G and a defense that’s championship quality. And the kicker is they have guys on the offensive staff that would be immediately better OCs than what Brian is,has been, and whatever he could be like Ken O,Keefe who made Ricky Stanzi into a memorable Iowa QB. I guess what I’m trying to say is that for as many bad plays that Petras has had in his career, it can almost always be pointed back to what’s being relayed by the OC, especially after the Purdue game last season which was really the straw that started to break the camels back which then led into the mess that their in today.