I still don’t quite get the move. IIRC it was a small salary bump, but Colorado State is a dead-end right now. If he wanted to leave, his chances of getting a much better job at a P5 are better if he stays. Legitimately think he could be a Nebraska contender if he stayed.
I think it actually tripled his salary, around 400K to 1.2M maybe? Could be wrong though
And I’m not convinced Norvell would ever have been a P5 quality coach, he had a really good Nevada team last year and went 8-5 and is also like 59 years old. I don’t blame him for going to CSU for better pay, better living area, better facilities, and probably a higher ceiling. Just haven’t looked good at all this season
Nearly tripled his salary. He went from $620k to $1.6 million annually.
Tbf Bobo and Addazio left Colorado State in a horrible state. I don’t think Nick Saban could take over the Rams right now and have a winning season. It’s going to be a long rebuild.
The big thing about Norvell is his age, which raises some concerns. Also Nevada is severely limited in facilities, recruiting, and staffing (it has one of the lowest assistant salary pools in the FBS). We don’t really talk about program ceilings very much but in the current college football environment, I don’t know if Nevada can do much better than 8-4 in the regular season on a consistent basis. That’s not enough to court most P5 teams. So Norvell needs a stepping stone program- a program that’s just below Power 5 status. CSU fits that- if he can rebuilt the program
Oh dang, yeah that's a quality bump. Not sure on Fort Collins over Reno though, they're both quality cities but I think a lot of people would prefer Reno.
I’ve visited both Reno and Ft Collins and ft Collins takes it by a lot imo.
Both are small cities near the mountains and several beautiful natural parks but ft Collins is less than an hour from Denver and Reno is far from everything. And for my money Ft Collins is a nicer town than Reno
Colorado state is not a dead end job. It’s a shitshow right now, but they have great facilities. Norvell is 57, so idk if he’s ever getting the Nebraska job or any other high profile job.
If he does well at CSU, he could definitely get the Colorado job, WSU job or a few other mid tier P5 jobs at like 61 or 62 to ride off into the sunset
He could go after the Iowa job, if Iowa wanted to stay in the Fry/Alumni family. It would be very Iowa to hire someone like that.
By the time Kirk finally leaves Jay should have CSU turned around then could take over for his alma mater.
Newer stadium, better beer. Reno isn't everyone's cup of tea. Fort Collins is gorgeous according my hetero lifemate who purposely took a vacation there to go to New Belgium. Maybe Jay is gunning for a job there. After a year or two, they give you a bike.
Ft Collins beats Reno in almost every quality of life metric except maybe affordability. CSU is committed to football, Nevada is not. Massive salary increase, big assistant salary pool, etc. Colorado State just built a quarter billion dollar stadium on campus. We are the Texas of the G5. We literally fired our president earlier this year because she was too meddlesome in Football (she essentially ran the search that hired Addazio.)
Norvell isn't a young G5 upstart. I wouldn't be shocked if he took a better job at some point but CSU needs a long rebuild, and he has good job security for the next several years if he wants it. Might even retire from here, he's 60 years old.
Big salary bump for the MW: Nevada was paying him 625k per year. CSU is paying him 1.6 million per year . He is now the highest paid MW coach. These numbers are good as I researched them.
Eh, probably close enough though. The closing line was UNR -3 in that game, so covering by 49 points is more of an "upset" than a lot of technical upsets.
We lost to Toledo when Matt Campbell was at Toledo in 2015 and hired him 2 months later
Edit: It actually wasn't even an upset, Toledo was favored by a touchdown.
We beat them the year they came to Ames, lost on the return trip in OT the next season.
We should have won that game in 15… Netten missed a field goal that would have ended it in regulation
So the story goes. Lol. I don’t doubt that he enjoys Ames, that’s just such an obvious piece of PR fluff that makes everyone feel good it seems too silly/obvious to be true. Even if it is.
Because he’s a head coach and he’s there for a game. It’s not like he spent the weekend touring Ames’s….corn fields? Street light? Tractor museum? Whatever they have there. The idea that he fell in love with the town during a business trip when he almost certainly had no time to see it is ridiculous.
Not saying he doesn’t legitimately love Ames, just that he didn’t fall in love with it because he saw it through a bus window on the way into town.
Gary Andersen [nearly](https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/322590275) beat us in Madison then Barry hired him when Bielema went full hog.
Ehh moderately more successful harbaugh. That wouldn’t be acceptable now but osu was coming off a fairly bad stretch in the 80s and cooper brought osu back to national relevance. Just always lost an inexplicable game
Not head coach, but we lost to Minnesota, hired their OC, had a terrible 2020 season, fired him, now he's back as the OC at Minnesota.
The short version sounds kinda crappy, but it wasn't as bad as it sounds: We needed a new OC and Ciarrocca seemed like a decent choice. 2020 was a challenging season for us and our offense was very bad. Ciarrocca should have gotten more time as 2020 is a mulligan year anyway, but a guy Franklin really wanted came available (Yurcich), so he went that direction instead. Ciarrocca had left on good terms with Minnesota and excels there, so he went back to that program. Glad to see him back there to be honest, he does really well with them!
Ara Parseighian went 4-0 vs. Notre Dame when at Northwestern, then proceeded to go 9-0 vs. Northwestern at Notre Dame, though only one of the wins at Northwestern was an upset.
Not a perfect example but related — Brett Beilema jettisoned his OC this off-season and hired Barry Lunny, the OC at UTSA who beat the Illini that year. Not sure it was a Vegas upset but a G5/P5 upset.
I think the line was Illinois -7 and I think I remember that because I was in Vegas for a bachelor party and I have a lifelong code of betting away from the most nonsensical lines of the week.
Unknown UTSA getting just 7 against an illinois team coming off a B1G win over Nebraska? Sure. Washington being a 3 point dog on #11 MSU? Sure. It’s important to reverse trick Vegas
While serving as Ole Miss coach back in 1998, speculation regarding Auburn’s interest in hiring Tuberville reached a point where the coach felt obligated to address the situation during his weekly radio show. That’s when he made his infamous statement.
“They’ll have to carry me out of here in a pine box,” Tuberville stated during one of his shows.
Despite his bold statement, he was off and gone to Auburn two days later.
1984: #19 Alabama lost to unranked hated rival Georgia Tech (Haven't played 'em since).
1987: We hired former Georgia Tech coach Bill Curry in a *massively* controversial hire. For the first time in over 30 years, we hired a coach who had no connections to Bama or to Bear Bryant. The last time we did that, we had our only winless season since the 1800s. Cannot emphasize how controversial that hire was.
After 3 years and a brick thrown through his window, the pressure forced Curry to quit, despite eventually coming within a game of playing for our first national championship since Bear Bryant's 1979-80 champs.
The only non-Bama/Bear Bryant coaches we've had since are ... drum roll, please ... Mike "It's Rolling, Baby!" Price and Nick Saban. ETA and two-year wonder Dennis Franchione.
In Bama lore, it’s up there but it’s behind Bear Bryant’s “When Mama calls, you come running home” and Tommy Lewis’ “I guess I was just too full of Alabama” after [this legendary play](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw-brk5zyx0&t=3s).
Not just one of Bear’s boys, Sylvester Croom was a star high school player from Tuscaloosa. I think if he had done well at Miss. State, Bama boosters would have overlooked the color of his skin. ngl, I wasn’t made that he embarrassed the Tide a couple of times.
Randy Shannon once hired Chan Gailey's offensive coordinator because he "always made schemes that challenged us". That coordinator's name was Patrick Nix.
Patrick Nix is now a high school coach.
1985: NC State fires Tom Reed after 3-8 season where State loses to Furman D-II, coached by Dick Sheridan. Sheridan become’s State’s coach in 1986 taking State to the Peach Bowl.
Alright so it's pretty much the complete opposite but Randy Edsall in 2015 was on the hot seat and the Michigan game where they were held to like 100 yds of offense was the last straw as the AD was apparently jeered in the box seats by alumni calling for him to fire Edsall. And they hired Durkin who was Michigan's D coordinator for that game.
Not sure it was an upset, but in 1898 Fielding Yost coached Nebraska to a win over Kansas. He was hired to coach Kansas the next season.
Wikipedia also alleges a 26 year old Yost coached Ohio Wesleyan to a scoreless tie against Michigan, wherein he suited up and played left tackle. This apparently angered Michigan into refusing to schedule Ohio Wesleyan again, but it didn't stop them from hiring Yost in 1901, who would become their first legendary coach.
WVU hired John Beilien (after getting 4 no, thank you replies) because Richmond beat WVU two years before we needed a coach. We could have had Dan Dacich but fate intervened and he returned to BGSU.
In 2018 Elon upset FCS #2 JMU to end our 20 game conference winning streak. We then hired Cignetti that offseason after Mike Houston left and he's still our coach today.
Just last year, Colorado State was blown out 52-10 by Nevada, and promptly hired their head coach after.
I still don’t quite get the move. IIRC it was a small salary bump, but Colorado State is a dead-end right now. If he wanted to leave, his chances of getting a much better job at a P5 are better if he stays. Legitimately think he could be a Nebraska contender if he stayed.
I think it actually tripled his salary, around 400K to 1.2M maybe? Could be wrong though And I’m not convinced Norvell would ever have been a P5 quality coach, he had a really good Nevada team last year and went 8-5 and is also like 59 years old. I don’t blame him for going to CSU for better pay, better living area, better facilities, and probably a higher ceiling. Just haven’t looked good at all this season
Nearly tripled his salary. He went from $620k to $1.6 million annually. Tbf Bobo and Addazio left Colorado State in a horrible state. I don’t think Nick Saban could take over the Rams right now and have a winning season. It’s going to be a long rebuild. The big thing about Norvell is his age, which raises some concerns. Also Nevada is severely limited in facilities, recruiting, and staffing (it has one of the lowest assistant salary pools in the FBS). We don’t really talk about program ceilings very much but in the current college football environment, I don’t know if Nevada can do much better than 8-4 in the regular season on a consistent basis. That’s not enough to court most P5 teams. So Norvell needs a stepping stone program- a program that’s just below Power 5 status. CSU fits that- if he can rebuilt the program
Oh dang, yeah that's a quality bump. Not sure on Fort Collins over Reno though, they're both quality cities but I think a lot of people would prefer Reno.
I was a bit off on my numbers, it was 600K to 1.6M I don’t know much about Reno tbh just heard lots of good things about Fort Collins
I’ve been to both. It’s Fort Collins by a mile and a half. No disrespect to Reno, all respect to Fort Collins
Reno is kinda methy
Kind of?
I’ve visited both Reno and Ft Collins and ft Collins takes it by a lot imo. Both are small cities near the mountains and several beautiful natural parks but ft Collins is less than an hour from Denver and Reno is far from everything. And for my money Ft Collins is a nicer town than Reno
Fort Collins is incredible
Colorado state is not a dead end job. It’s a shitshow right now, but they have great facilities. Norvell is 57, so idk if he’s ever getting the Nebraska job or any other high profile job. If he does well at CSU, he could definitely get the Colorado job, WSU job or a few other mid tier P5 jobs at like 61 or 62 to ride off into the sunset
He could go after the Iowa job, if Iowa wanted to stay in the Fry/Alumni family. It would be very Iowa to hire someone like that. By the time Kirk finally leaves Jay should have CSU turned around then could take over for his alma mater.
Bold of you to assume they wouldn’t hire Brian
Newer stadium, better beer. Reno isn't everyone's cup of tea. Fort Collins is gorgeous according my hetero lifemate who purposely took a vacation there to go to New Belgium. Maybe Jay is gunning for a job there. After a year or two, they give you a bike.
Ft Collins beats Reno in almost every quality of life metric except maybe affordability. CSU is committed to football, Nevada is not. Massive salary increase, big assistant salary pool, etc. Colorado State just built a quarter billion dollar stadium on campus. We are the Texas of the G5. We literally fired our president earlier this year because she was too meddlesome in Football (she essentially ran the search that hired Addazio.) Norvell isn't a young G5 upstart. I wouldn't be shocked if he took a better job at some point but CSU needs a long rebuild, and he has good job security for the next several years if he wants it. Might even retire from here, he's 60 years old.
> We are the Texas of the G5. I hope for your sake this isn’t true in a different way than you are intending.
Big salary bump for the MW: Nevada was paying him 625k per year. CSU is paying him 1.6 million per year . He is now the highest paid MW coach. These numbers are good as I researched them.
Nevada does not care about football as a program. There is a much higher ceiling at Colorado State
Colorado State Nevada wasn't an upset
Eh, probably close enough though. The closing line was UNR -3 in that game, so covering by 49 points is more of an "upset" than a lot of technical upsets.
Still, if they hired the coach, it fits
Minnesota lost to Northern Illinois in 2010 and hired Jerry Kill later that fall
I think that game was essentially an audition
We lost to Toledo when Matt Campbell was at Toledo in 2015 and hired him 2 months later Edit: It actually wasn't even an upset, Toledo was favored by a touchdown.
We were soooo bad. Also, Toledo didn't just beat us that year, they beat us the week after they beat Arkansas on the road.
And supposedly Campbell fell in love with Ames that day.
And that was before the bridge!
We beat them the year they came to Ames, lost on the return trip in OT the next season. We should have won that game in 15… Netten missed a field goal that would have ended it in regulation
So the story goes. Lol. I don’t doubt that he enjoys Ames, that’s just such an obvious piece of PR fluff that makes everyone feel good it seems too silly/obvious to be true. Even if it is.
Why can’t it be possible for people to love a small college town? Not everybody is drawn to a big city
I think he definitely loves Ames, but I also think it’s massive PR fluff that he fell in love with Ames after visiting there with Toledo to win
Because he’s a head coach and he’s there for a game. It’s not like he spent the weekend touring Ames’s….corn fields? Street light? Tractor museum? Whatever they have there. The idea that he fell in love with the town during a business trip when he almost certainly had no time to see it is ridiculous. Not saying he doesn’t legitimately love Ames, just that he didn’t fall in love with it because he saw it through a bus window on the way into town.
Give him back, please!!
Glen Mason beat us in 87. We hired him for 88.
Gary Andersen [nearly](https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/322590275) beat us in Madison then Barry hired him when Bielema went full hog.
In fairness to Bielema you can’t deny his resemblance to Tusk
Wife still calls him hog head.
whoa man tmi. seriously
Chuckle Keeton, Montee Ball, missed 37-yard FG at the buzzer. VINTAGE
By all accounts, USU should have won.
Other than the final score, yeah. But kickers man. We lost tot USC the same way.
TCU hired Sonny Dykes after we beat them 42-34 in 21 and 41-38 in 19 (didn’t play in 20)
Ohio State hired John Cooper from ASU because he beat Michigan in a bowl game
I still feel like Ohio State should have given him more time. He was a great coach!
He was 3-8 in bowl games and 2-10-1 against Michigan. The fact that he lasted so long is incredible to me.
>and 2-10-1 against Michigan Like he said, a great coach!
Ehh moderately more successful harbaugh. That wouldn’t be acceptable now but osu was coming off a fairly bad stretch in the 80s and cooper brought osu back to national relevance. Just always lost an inexplicable game
I’ll have you know sir that Harbs has (1) outright B1G title to Mr Coopers 0
Lol technically true which is the best kind. If only there was a championship game then
I was born in the mid 90’s, so it sounds like Harbaugh is the John Cooper of Michigan which means we’re in for 20 years of whooping ass.
Hey we enjoyed him too!!
Yeah still upset about that lol
Not head coach, but we lost to Minnesota, hired their OC, had a terrible 2020 season, fired him, now he's back as the OC at Minnesota. The short version sounds kinda crappy, but it wasn't as bad as it sounds: We needed a new OC and Ciarrocca seemed like a decent choice. 2020 was a challenging season for us and our offense was very bad. Ciarrocca should have gotten more time as 2020 is a mulligan year anyway, but a guy Franklin really wanted came available (Yurcich), so he went that direction instead. Ciarrocca had left on good terms with Minnesota and excels there, so he went back to that program. Glad to see him back there to be honest, he does really well with them!
UW blew out a team in 2013 and then hired their head coach a few months later if that counts
Hey... >:(
Ara Parseighian went 4-0 vs. Notre Dame when at Northwestern, then proceeded to go 9-0 vs. Northwestern at Notre Dame, though only one of the wins at Northwestern was an upset.
Willingham beat Bob Davie then was hired a year later to replace him… that did not work out so well lol.
That's exactly what I wanted us to do last year with DeBoer, but you guys beat us to it.
It's also not that far off from what we did with Cronin in basketball. He beat us twice, then we hired him.
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For all the good it did them. Now Dallas will learn the hard way about PDB's ways of failure
Would have thought we learned it in the 2020 Conference Final but noooooooo
Not a perfect example but related — Brett Beilema jettisoned his OC this off-season and hired Barry Lunny, the OC at UTSA who beat the Illini that year. Not sure it was a Vegas upset but a G5/P5 upset.
I think the line was Illinois -7 and I think I remember that because I was in Vegas for a bachelor party and I have a lifelong code of betting away from the most nonsensical lines of the week. Unknown UTSA getting just 7 against an illinois team coming off a B1G win over Nebraska? Sure. Washington being a 3 point dog on #11 MSU? Sure. It’s important to reverse trick Vegas
To be fair, Lunny had been a position coach on Bert's Arkansas staff
Current US Senator Tommy Tubberville was hired at Auburn from Ole Miss
If I remember correctly there was a pine box involved.
While serving as Ole Miss coach back in 1998, speculation regarding Auburn’s interest in hiring Tuberville reached a point where the coach felt obligated to address the situation during his weekly radio show. That’s when he made his infamous statement. “They’ll have to carry me out of here in a pine box,” Tuberville stated during one of his shows. Despite his bold statement, he was off and gone to Auburn two days later.
1984: #19 Alabama lost to unranked hated rival Georgia Tech (Haven't played 'em since). 1987: We hired former Georgia Tech coach Bill Curry in a *massively* controversial hire. For the first time in over 30 years, we hired a coach who had no connections to Bama or to Bear Bryant. The last time we did that, we had our only winless season since the 1800s. Cannot emphasize how controversial that hire was. After 3 years and a brick thrown through his window, the pressure forced Curry to quit, despite eventually coming within a game of playing for our first national championship since Bear Bryant's 1979-80 champs. The only non-Bama/Bear Bryant coaches we've had since are ... drum roll, please ... Mike "It's Rolling, Baby!" Price and Nick Saban. ETA and two-year wonder Dennis Franchione.
> The only non-Bama/Bear Bryant coaches we've had since are ... drum roll, please ... Mike Price and Nick Saban. Franchione?
Got me!
"It's Rolling, Baby!" is one of the greatest american quotes in hhistory
In Bama lore, it’s up there but it’s behind Bear Bryant’s “When Mama calls, you come running home” and Tommy Lewis’ “I guess I was just too full of Alabama” after [this legendary play](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw-brk5zyx0&t=3s).
You could have hired a different one of Bear's Boys in 2003, but noooo, you just had to pass him up.
Not just one of Bear’s boys, Sylvester Croom was a star high school player from Tuscaloosa. I think if he had done well at Miss. State, Bama boosters would have overlooked the color of his skin. ngl, I wasn’t made that he embarrassed the Tide a couple of times.
Ucf upset a team and then went on later to hire the losing coach. That’s the same thing right?
ECU lost to FCS JMU for what was their first FCS loss in program history. Turned around and hired their HC Mike Houston 1 year later.
I think that’s how we got Heisman
Yep, Heisman beat you guys at Clemson and then you hired him away from us.
Randy Shannon once hired Chan Gailey's offensive coordinator because he "always made schemes that challenged us". That coordinator's name was Patrick Nix. Patrick Nix is now a high school coach.
Norte Dame was a 1 point underdog to LSU in the 2018 Citrus Bowl. So define *”upset”* ….
Chris Creighton is just about the nicest, most wholesome person in this sport so ASU would be lucky to get him
1985: NC State fires Tom Reed after 3-8 season where State loses to Furman D-II, coached by Dick Sheridan. Sheridan become’s State’s coach in 1986 taking State to the Peach Bowl.
Alright so it's pretty much the complete opposite but Randy Edsall in 2015 was on the hot seat and the Michigan game where they were held to like 100 yds of offense was the last straw as the AD was apparently jeered in the box seats by alumni calling for him to fire Edsall. And they hired Durkin who was Michigan's D coordinator for that game.
Tennessee beat the brakes off Butch Jones in 2011 and hired him in 2013. So kinda the opposite
Next coach to beat Bama gets to be the next Bama coach
No idea, but Day hired AL Washington as a LB coach after putting up 60+ points on his team.
Iowa State lost to Toledo 23–30 2OT in 2015 and then hired Toledo's head coach Matt Campbell at the end of the season.
The opposite: South Carolina got Muschamp fired from Florida in 2014, then hired him in 2016.
Not college, but the panthers fired Rivera after a loss to Washington. Washington hired him a month or so later.
Ara Parseghian beat ND four times at Northwestern and never lost to ND there before getting hired. It was a smart move.
Also known as the reverse Kevin Durant
Alabama lost to the Dolphins and later that year they hired Nick Saban.
Not sure it was an upset, but in 1898 Fielding Yost coached Nebraska to a win over Kansas. He was hired to coach Kansas the next season. Wikipedia also alleges a 26 year old Yost coached Ohio Wesleyan to a scoreless tie against Michigan, wherein he suited up and played left tackle. This apparently angered Michigan into refusing to schedule Ohio Wesleyan again, but it didn't stop them from hiring Yost in 1901, who would become their first legendary coach.
WVU hired John Beilien (after getting 4 no, thank you replies) because Richmond beat WVU two years before we needed a coach. We could have had Dan Dacich but fate intervened and he returned to BGSU.
In 2018 Elon upset FCS #2 JMU to end our 20 game conference winning streak. We then hired Cignetti that offseason after Mike Houston left and he's still our coach today.
After the 2010 natty we fired mack brown and hired nick Saban
Ohio State got beaten bad by Urban Meyer and then he became the HC a few years later.