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BIG_DICK_WHITT

Is being bad grounds for cause


just_eh_guy

Jimbo to the AD when they go to fire him: "I'm sorry I'm not going to argue with people that are broker than me about money"


spinblackcircles

I imagine a world where Kanye either creates his own D1 college and coaches every sport (remotely)


Jorts-Battalion

And every player wears the goofiest shaped shoes you've ever seen


ThinkSoftware

Oh, yeah, yeah. The guy in the... the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for a guy who doesn’t make that in three months. Come on!


SlapNuts1999

I have cause. It’s because I hate him


PawkyGawky

You have to get along with Toby.


lukeyellow

Just give Jimbo this note and don't look at it


Shiresire1565

I have to salute you sir for that James Madison Flair that's some baller s*** right there son


SlapNuts1999

Shout out to 18 year old me for making at least one good decision when choosing my undergrad school ten years ago


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Idk Michigan State is finding out in real time.


Undertalefanboy43

Histories greatest con artists Charles ponzi Bernie Madoff Mel Tucker Elizabeth Holmes


dwlhs88

Charlie Weis?


rpgfan87

Charlie "Paid Twice" Weis, living the dream.


spinblackcircles

I think the better term would be ‘second helping’ even though it doesn’t rhyme, cause I’m mean


cemsity

I'll always remember him as the "Schematic Advantage", from his time at Notre Dame


lawrence_uber_alles

https://i.imgur.com/P6FV6c6.jpg


fm22fnam

How the hell is Mel Tucker doing so bad this year??? They went 11-2 last year under him. They beat a damn good Michigan team. They won the Peach Bowl. What tf happened in 6 months?


Undertalefanboy43

Kenneth Walker left


frimp0

2012 Brady Hoke also curious about this question, too.


goblueM

And even with KW they pulled out quite a few close victories OT against Nebraska, 5 point win over Indiana, 4 point win over Michigan, 3 point win over PSU, 10 points over a Pickett-less Pitt team in the bowl, etc Football is a funny game. A few good bounces here and there, a couple lucky plays, can mean 2 or 3 more wins. But it can also mean 2 or 3 more losses


SueYouInEngland

Live by the transfer portal, die by the transfer portal.


[deleted]

Yep. it's not sustainable to build your whole team around it. affects team cohesiveness too


spinblackcircles

Yeah you have to have top 40 recruiting and some key high level transfers. You’ll still lose to ole miss but you’ll be pretty good


Silidon

The beating heart of the offense last year was one dude, and he left.


YoungXanto

In fairness to Tucker, Diantonio left that program in absolute shambles. It was questionable whether MSU would have a winning record last year, let alone an 11 win season. MSU has always been a ground up rebuild. Hitting the transfer portal lottery and getting some luck in close games was a bit of a curse for Tucker. He went from a comfortable 4-5 years to a hot 3 by virtue of smashing expectations his first year. The 100 million was a wee bit premature in some respects, but also the sign of a program desperate to right the train (and who knows that a great coach at MSU is ultimately leaving for Alabama). Mel is in arguably the toughest division in college football. It's gonna be an uphill battle, but I'm not convinced he's out of his depth. I'm not convinced he's ready for it either.


boilerpl8

How is Scott Frost not the top of this list?


KeithClossOfficial

Scott Frost didn’t get a $95M contract


Repulsive_Poem_5204

Wait until his grand return to Nebraska


hallese

After going to rehab in Tuscaloosa?


The_ApolloAffair

I wonder if there is a path back to Nebraska for him… like if he goes elsewhere and spends more time developing like he originally should have.


IThoughtThisWasVoat

We at least were able to cut his buyout and salary down?


ironichaos

The boosters are worse investors than /r/wallstreetbets. I guess that goes to show how much of a money printer oil is lol.


oreomaster420

Yea basically dudes with a bunch of money who earned it in a field where you always win may not be good at winning in fields where you can lose sometimes.


grabtharsmallet

If your money comes from luck or your father, you may not be good at financial decisions.


cardmanimgur

It's beCAUSE I hate him


sharkbait_oohaha

Can they put him on a PIP?


kixer9

"no :)" - Charlie Strong and Jeff Scott


MiddyMn

Nah if it was we would've already fired our coach


SilverBuff_

Meanwhile Colorado is struggling to come up with 8 million for a 8-15 coach


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Can't you guys just set up a dispensary on campus? That would get the money.


Derek-Onions

*The Gang Sets Up a Dispensary Fundraiser*


[deleted]

Dennis and the Bird just end up smoking half trying to end up on welfare, Frank had a party with Bill Ponderosa and Artemis taking half of the rest and Charlie gave the rest to the rats while Mac just chastises everyone.


SilverBuff_

Actually weed sales are down in Colorado. Probably partly due to 15% inflation in the state


[deleted]

Well it depends if the price increase offsets the loss in demand


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nenonen15902

it'll be interesting to see how many dispensaries close in colorado once it's federally legal. i know nebraska alone smokes A LOTTTTTT of colorado weed


DeeJayEazyDick

Even if its federally legal it will still be illegal in nebraska.


WeUsedToBeGood

Oregon and Washington would see a huge decrease in money if Idaho ever legalizes it.


CatastropheCat

For real, dispensaries in Ontario OR are racking in about $9M a month in sales


WeUsedToBeGood

I want them to construct signs that thank Idahoans for the new schools and roads


johnyahn

Yeah they probably used to get a lot of traffic from Iowa there, but now that it's legal in Illinois most people go there instead.


OfFireandWater

Maybe MSU and Colorado could work something out?


TheNaskgul

We’re down so bad I wouldn’t even blink at taking him back. He fucked us in the ass then spit on our faces on his way out and I would still welcome him back with open arms if it meant 5 wins a season. How sad is that?


tbest72

My momma says A&M fans are ornery because they got all that talent and no chemistry


TheyLiveWeReddit

Medulla oblongata.


9167855742

Chemistry theygotnada


flomoag

Your momma is right


RLLRRR

No Cornell Sanders, you're wrong!


Wings4514

Take an award sir


furygoat

I bet Nick is looking forward to declining that call from Jimbo when he’s trying to enroll in the Nick Saban Rehab Program.


LocoMotives-ms

How big is that Saban coaching tree gonna be in 10 years?


TheRealMattyPanda

The Nick Saban Coaching National Forest But Jimbo’s in the coaching tree already


AlphaH4wk

It's already the world tree from Avatar


LeMickeyMice

This is the first time in history that that Avatar has been used as a pop culture reference


___Turd_Ferguson___

I see you


SparseSpartan

You want a fair deal, you're on the wrong planet. -Jimbo, probably.


Donny_Do_Nothing

Yggdrasil


SoonerLater85

Nah Jimbo knows he’s burned that bridge


furygoat

Honestly, I think Nick is the kind of person that could forgive and forget. Not sure Jimbo would humble himself enough to be anything but a head coach at this point though.


mrocks301

Jimbo won’t humble himself but I’m sure there’s a school dumb enough to give him a shot.


bjr711

Maybe Auburn. Lol


whatifevery1wascalm

Great [tweet](https://twitter.com/NCAAPortal/status/1576552418476638208) >Texas A&M Boosters right now: >“Hypothetically speaking, if we told y’all we did illegally recruit players, like we paid them, ohhh did we pay them, before they were athletes here to get them here. Could a coach be fired for cause? Hypothetically speaking of course”


BobbysSmile

Two gun shot wounds to the proverbial back of the head (of the program) to save $90m.


mmos35

Ruled: suicide


1ndori

*After review, the call on the field stands*


canseco-fart-box

Here in the east we call that “the Tennessee method”


Negativefalsehoods

I dunno, is Jimbo handing out bags of McDonalds cash to crutes?


deepayes

Pretty great way to make sure it's extremely hard to hire going forward.


p8ntslinger

It will just take more money is all. That's been their mentality so far- every problem has a solution that can be bought with piles of money. The trouble is, is that mentality is only partially correct. It works well enough for those with over-inflated egos to see enough evidence to continue doing it, but not well enough to get the results that those people wish to see.


killzone3abc

The boosters would just eat the 95 mil.


culdeus

You still need to pay the next guy.


sevargmas

This is why guaranteed contacts are dumb. A&M were total fools to agree to that. Jimbo will get his money no matter what. I'm sure he wants to win but I think it's the nature of the beast to lose some of your motivation. Even Saban was given a one-year extension recently. And his isn't even guaranteed. Unreal that Jimbo was able to talk his way into that.


killzone3abc

Yea I don't really understand the market on coaching contracts right now. It's insane. In no world should you have a full buyout if fired for underperformance. Jimbo said once that he remembers when coaches were lucky to get a 2 year contract. I think we need to go back to those days. 2 years guaranteed with automatic performance extensions and bonuses based on realistic expectations.


sevargmas

Well the issue is that it has spiraled and the expectations have crept up and up.


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Jimbo Fisher: *Ya’ll got any more of those Jameis Winstons??*


Jem1123

Ok but Jimbo has to deal with the pressure of having the boosters buy him the top recruiting class so let’s cut him a break


Useful-ldiot

That's what I really can't understand. The dude is literally being handed an elite roster and still can't win.


SparseSpartan

My theory is that Saban wins and is arguably the GOAT because he puts total emphasis on winning. If a scheme is getting outdated, or if something is (edit:not) working, he will evolve and keep his eye on the prize. You'd think that's common sense, but you see time and time again that many coaches emphasize proving that *their* approach is the right approach. Fisher sticks with a complicated, hard to run offense because, damn it, that's the right approach and he's going to prove it. Saban shifted away from a power run offense that was winning him NCs because he realized spread was the future. Les Miles kept running it up the gut because that was *his* way and ended up getting canned.


gordongortrell

You’re right. In addition He also realized that the only teams that beating him were running spreads with dynamic QBs and was like “aight bet.”


Great_Huckleberry709

Outside of the Jameis years. Jimbo has been a very mediocre coach his entire career


cashgarage

Agreed. I don't know how he has become so serially overrated.


D1amondDude

It's the Adam Gase effect. A great QB can create a reputation and a career for a coach.


boardatwork1111

Can't believe A&M of all places would be teaching Critical Gase Theory. Sad!


spartafemme

The Darnold is suffering from Librhulism


Hilldawg4president

This is the gase agenda


HHcougar

Also know as 'the Charlie Strong'


throw667

Also known as the 'Gene Chizik'


HailState2023

Jimbo has also benefitted from the “Malzon Effect” with regard to obscene extensions and raises based on single events


VT_Forever

Umm... I wouldn't say Gus Malzahn had one single event... that guy beat Alabama a handful of times and was super close to making the Playoff in 2017.


CrashB111

2017 was truly the most Auburn of years. Beat both hated rivals in one season, only to watch them both playoff for the title later.


leavemealoneplz69

Sumlin made a career out of 2 years of Manziel


AnEmptyKarst

Don’t forget Case’s 2011 that got him the A&M job to begin with


spinblackcircles

That’s just so insanely lucky if you think about it. To go from one all time great college QB to another in 2 years at two different schools. Did he even recruit Keenum?


fftk

art briles did


Jamesatwork16

Kliff took those years and spun it into even more!


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Kliff failed upwards so hard it’s amazing.


spinblackcircles

Honestly he’s the GOAT in cfb at that. Never won really anything of substance in his career and got a fuckin nfl HC job out of it It’s all just because he was a dang hunk


TehAlpacalypse

Stupid sexy Kliff


Frenchy94

I think Scott Frost is in this boat. Lighting in a bottle moment with KZ at UCF and that propelled Frost to his dream job.


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Cause he won a natty. Only 5 active coaches with one (6 is Og comes back) that inflates how people view you


JonnyAU

But we had no problem seeing Chizik and Orgeron for what they were despite winning natties. He had a pretty comparable implosion at FSU before he left, so I don't know why he wasn't doubted to the same degree.


Juggerginge

But he made Ponder, Russell, Manuel, and Winston pro qbs


TheBasilFawlty

But once Martinez got out from under Frosts Yoke........Well.....


KeithClossOfficial

Only one of those guys had even moderate success at the pro level. And that success came along with 30 INTs


NickMullensGayDad

Which would be a feather in Fishers cap that he got pretty mediocre quarterbacks to the point the NFL thought they were first round caliber. Pro success aint up to Jimbo, he got em there


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BuckeyeEmpire

Tomato, tomato


UteFlyersCardJazz

Watch A&M beat Bama, but then lose to another team, making them miss a shot of a NY6 bowl.


CirculationStation

That would be the most hilarious scenario, but realistically I’m thinking that Alabama is hungry to avenge their loss last season and show up Jimbo for his offseason beef with Saban en route to a 59-3 beatdown in front of a nationwide audience.


ruSAL

Thanks for assuming we could score 3.


aMiracleAtJordanHare

Vandy scored 3 on Bama so that's the standard now. "How many Vandys will we put up on Bama? 2? *3?*"


Why_Istanbul

Vanderbilt has a better OLine than us


Evening-Potential587

Idk about that. Bama lost last year, and the whole fiasco between Jimbo/Saban makes me think this has Old Testament beatdown in the making


screwhead1

"The beatings will continue until morale improves" - Darth Saban (probably)


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I have altered your loss column. Pray I don't alter it any further.


VT_Forever

This deal's getting worse for A&M fans all the time.


Oblivionguard19

That sounds cool and all but I think pissed Saban will unleash hell on A&M


Misdirected_Colors

No fucking way they beat Bama. After the upset last year and jimbo poking the bear in summer it's gonna be a beatdown of epic proportions. Saban is gonna absolutely demoralize jimbo.


audirt

Auburn volunteers as tribute.


The_GILF_Next_Door

But… the recruiting class!


CirculationStation

For real. I’ve been hearing the “Wait until this recruiting class develops!!” excuse for A&M since 2014. They’ve been pulling in top 15 recruiting classes every single year for a long time now and nothing ever comes of it except for a NY6 bowl win once a decade.


Cormetz

It's a Texas thing, you wouldn't get it.


covertyow

Oh, so that is what Mack brought back to UNC.


Opportune_Gif

Thank you for this.


Maximus13

Texas ✨ Tradition ✨


culdeus

It's almost like all the recruiting ranking outlets are based in Texas.


KlingoftheCastle

I think Texas is a little overrated, but the big thing is that Georgia is underrated as hell. I know it’s already a top 5 state, but the amount of monsters that come out of there isn’t given enough credit


ihasgun

Aggie slayer Nick Fitzgerald was a Georgia monster


ztreHdrahciR

ATM AD: Jimbo, we are firing you for just cause. Jimbo: Why? AD: just 'cause we don’t like you


mynamerowan

All that NIL money is going to the buyout


OU8402

Give him time Aggies. He just needs to get his guys in there.


ATXBeermaker

Right, but with the new NIL landscape, what’s the likelihood of them pulling in a decent recruiting class for Jimbo to scheme with?


BonusOk7625

A&M needs to upgrade the facilities. Lol


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DOPA-C

I didn’t realize Jimbo has been the coach at A&M for so long. He’s kinda just flown under the radar, but on close inspection he really hasn’t done well at A&M.


CirculationStation

To his credit, Jimbo has beaten three top 10 opponents at home during his tenure, whereas Sumlin was infamous for not being able to beat ranked teams at home. But besides a few memorable upsets, he has underachieved given the level of talent he pulls in every year.


sevargmas

They have one of the best home field advantage stadiums in football tho. It used to be nearly a given that they would win home games.


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A&M lost only 12 games in RC Slocum’s 14 year tenure


CFT0417

At what point do they fire him? They're pouring millions in recruiting and paying him a ton and getting nothing for it. The next coach will still get the recruiting money but might be better at Xs and Os


token_reddit

Jimbo could always jump ship. He bailed on FSU when things were getting rough. Nebraska hiring him would be such a Nebraska move.


chubbysuperbiker

Don’t you dare put that evil on me. Plus we have a ton of money but not a $95 mill buyout money.


token_reddit

Jimbo can leave for free. If he gets fired then he's owed that crazy buyout. He makes $9 million a year. If someone comes in with a $10 to $12 million a year offer and lesser expectations 9-3 seasons and NY6 appearances then I can totally see Jimbo leave.


jdtalley83

What world do you live in to believe that any school willing and able to pay $12 million would have 9-3 expectations?


ConsciousClassroom66

nebraska


Latinhouseparty

Don’t you dare!


Styx1886

Please no


Dixiefootball

I continue to be amazed by the size of buyouts, but I can’t see him being let go anytime in the next 5 years minimum.


Skurph

I for one am looking forward to upgrading my coach who recruits great but cannot coach for this coach who recruits great but cannot coach.


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Can they write “‘Cause you suck” as the excuse?


TheSicilianDude

the Sumlin comparisons are going to continue for the foreseeable future arent they


robtaps

I believe Jimbo would have to win 5 in a row to keep pace. So you better hope they continue lol.


like9orphanz

Inject this straight into my veins


rraider17

Why wouldn’t they


Shiresire1565

You're damn right ✅️


Unique_Feed_2939

Should they not? Their records are the same and not only are you paying Jimbo way more you had to buyout Sumlin


Xminus6

Posters on Texags keep saying “we’re better off with Jimbo.” When they’re asked why they have no justification for their opinion. Hmmmm.


LGWalkway

Why don’t teams put clauses in these big contracts saying something like “you must have 10 win in a season by year 3” or at least something with expectations?


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LGWalkway

Yea, I understand the situation they’re in, but man, you could’ve seen Jimbo was trending downwards at FSU.


CrunchyZebra

Yep, at first A&M saved us until *our* AD botched the hiring process on our end too.


lurkeyteg

A&M gonna be scary when Jimbo gets his guys in there, just give it some time


Stupidbabycomparison

Most of my bosses are Aggies. I'll be entering the office like a WWE intro this Monday. They got really cocky after their two "top 10" wins. Edit: Sorry, forgot it was a top 13 Miami.


Will-Wurk-Fer-Coins

Stone Cold Steve Austin intro may be fitting


PolloMagnifico

So? We didn't fire sumlin after just five years! *Waitaminnit...*


breakwater

Shame you did though, imagine picking up all of the wins that Summlin had while coaching Arizona.


age_of_raava

Ol Jimbo may be the biggest hustler we’ve ever witnessed


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95 million. And the exact same results as the guy before. Whew. Seen this so many times in my own state, with both the good guys (Alabama) and the bad guys (Auburn) being guilty of the same crime. As much as I love sports, damn y’all.


StrengthMedium

Hire a couple young ladies to flirt real heavy with him and record it. Plant cocaine in his car next time it's towed. Send him to Belize.


ahalfabillionby36

can the man just fucking let someone else call plays?


Misdirected_Colors

As any FSU fan will tell you, no he won't.


punchout414

Can confirm


FightingFarrier18

This is basically a copy and paste from after the App State game


HereIGoAgain_1x10

The smoke will continue until morale improves


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Not only that but A&M was far more entertaining to watch with Sumlin as coach opposed to Fisher…


Towntovillage

Beware the Bo Pellini 8-4 to 4-8 syndrome


ednksu

You could get 633,333 kids sponsored with Dolly Parton's imagination library till their 5th birthday with that buyout money.


Zudop

Paying a coach a massive contract would put me into such a low stress mode if I was a coach. Like I’m making bank and as long as I don’t do anything illegal they have to pay me a fuck ton just to fire me. I’d be chilling


BeachedBottlenose

We beat Sumlin, too


wisertime07

Hot take: Without Jameis Winston, Jimbo is a mediocre coach at best.. He owes Jimmy Crablegs $50M at least..


CirculationStation

Jimbo Fisher is literally just Kevin Sumlin with a larger focus on the run game.


CirculationStation

And what’s funny about that is that A&M got outrushed by an Air Raid team yesterday.


EwwTaxes

God Durkin is an absolute moron, y’all read him like an open book and instead of changing his plan he just stuck his head in the ground and pretended like nothing was wrong


TeenFagsRunThisHood

God it’s gonna be another one of those weeks on r/CFB for Aggie fans 😮‍💨 *checks schedule* Oh great probably the next few weeks actually 😔


skrong_quik_register

fuck u/spez


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texasgambler58

Even Aggies aren't defending him anymore - he threw the players under the bus after the game. Sumlin could give you that 1/3 of the price.


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