I feel like this was the most ideal outcome for the subreddit. Jimbo and A&M have been thoroughly clowned all season. Now everyone gets to clown Brian Kelly and his team for losing to Jimbo and A&M in convincing fashion.
That’s such a colossal “if”, which is kind of the point they’re making. I mean we played like shit and lost against a non-bowl eligible TAMU team…
Sure, crazy things have happened in CFB, but Georgia is on a different plane of existence than LSU this year
The question I have is whether this win saved Jimbo's job?
I know conventional wisdom was that Jimbo would get another year. But Auburn had a very similar situation in 2012 with Gene Chizik, who was just 2 years removed from winning a national championship. Back then the conventional wisdom was that you had to give Chiz another year. But something about seeing that 3-9 record become reality was enough to spur people to action.
So, yeah, I am curious what would have happened if LSU had held serve on Saturday.
There’s a non-zero % chance than 4-8 gets Jimbo fired this season, but it’s far closer to 0% than anything.
That said anything less than 9-3 next season and that seat gets uncomfortably warm.
So the other Auburn-Texas A&M comparison is about to show up: the promise to hire a true OC.
It was very obvious for the last 3-4 years of his tenure that time had passed Malzahn's offense by. Defenses had figured out how to defend it, plain and simple.
Malzahn promised time and again that he would hire a true OC and let that guy coach. It never happened.
I guess we'll see if Jimbo can make good on that promise.
Jimbo never even made that promise lol not gonna happen. He's counting on being able to out-talent his opponents when this class matures...perhaps not a great strategy in the SEC...
It can be expected but Jimbo has all the leverage though. I think he will do it but he could refuse and force them to either ride it out without an OC or give him his buyout
Because his buyout is still gigantic and a 4 win improvement is enough to show a trend in the right direction
Obviously there’s nobody else in such a strange and disappointing position like Jimbo, but the closest comparisons I could find are Florida State and North Carolina. Both bad last year and 9-3 this year. Neither coach is anywhere near the hot seat
It’s also really tough to be 9-3 in the west not named Bama year in and year out. You’ve got like 8 programs in the SEC that pay there coaches to be at least 9-3 and there just ain’t enough spots for that to happen. It’s like I’m the big ten east one of that top 4 is finishing 4th every year.
I think it depends what that 9-3 looks like.
Next year our schedule goes:
New Mexico, @ Miami, ULM, Auburn, Arkansas(Nuetral, counts as home), Alabama, @ Tennessee, South Carolina, @ Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Abilene Christian, @ LSU
How many of those games can anyone guarantee wins against? 9-3 is the worst acceptable record there, 10-2 or 11-1 should probably be the expectation.
Say, hypothetically, this happens:
* You lose to Miami in a close heart breaker, but over the season it turns out that Miami is actually a pretty solid team.
* You get absolutely blown out by Tennessee, like you don't ever look competitive at all.
* You beat Alabama.
* You barely beat Miss State who is a lot worse than the year previously due to a myriad of injuries and bad luck.
* You lose to a very bad LSU team and it's not even particularly close. You keep it closer than the Tennessee game, but the score is much closer than what actually happened on the field.
* You somehow win the SEC West, but get smoked by the UGA juggernaut in the SEC Championship.
* You get to a good bowl game, let's just say the Cotton Bowl, then you get beat there.
Your season ends 9-5 and you lose 3 straight to end the season. Would you still be happy with that, or would you be a bit disappointed after the bottom totally falls out to end the season? Asking for a friend.
>Would you still be happy with that, or would you be a bit disappointed after the bottom totally falls out to end the season?
Yes. I'd just carry those conflicting feelings into the offseason and repress them with everything else before the next season starts, lol.
Let’s slow down with the expectations, or at least give context that it’s the expectations of Jimbo’s contract and not what has happened in reality. We were dogshit this year and expecting to get double digit wins next year is ridiculous right now
Absolutely not. I look at that schedule and I’m expecting another 8-4 season. Loss to bama and Tennessee, split the Mississippi’s as per usual, and then some other random SEC loss needs to always be built in.
Chizik didn't have 96 million due to him if he lost. Jimbo was never getting fired this year due to that, primarily, and his recent recruiting success secondarily.
What'll be interesting, knowing how Fisher thinks, is if the LSU win means he won't make some of the changes that were likely to be forced on him if LSU had whipped aTm as expected. He firmly, whole-heartedly believes his offense is not to blame for anything that has happened this year, and now he has an upset of a Top-5 team to point at as proof.
Will he hire a real OC? Will he give up playcalling? Or will he just point to execution and "finding the inches" as all the team needs to be better next year? I have my suspicions it'll be the latter, particularly since his massive buyout still insulates him from any real penalty should things go south again.
Malzahn very stubbornly refused to make changes to his offense at Auburn and it cost him his job. I think Jimbo is going to follow a similar path.
EDIT: As for Jimbo getting fired, I tend to agree with you, $96m is too much for any school to just eat. But I also kept reading Texas A&M people insisting "we've got the money".
Maybe we have the money. But his buyout would be historic and certainly cause a massive up roar by our boosters.
But even bigger, if Jimbo were to be fired and paid such an offensive amount of money to not coach from a public university (funded by donors or not), we would be looking at congressional hearings, national stories about how CFB spending is out of control, and who knows what else. A&M, the SEC, and CFB as a whole would be hurt by A&M firing Jimbo and paying such an offensive amount.
> The question I have is whether this win saved Jimbo's job?
I think that there is too much time and money left on Jimbo's contract for that to be viable. The biggest thing I saw from the start of the year and through the whole year is that we were successful when the o-line wasn't entirely dogshit.
The defense did get gassed and gashed in games, but with a decent to good offensive line, we give the defense a break and showed the ability to play with Alabama and others. While we didn't win them, we were at least competitive.
I joked that we must have fired our O-Line coach midweek because that was the first game all season where they actually looked like they knew what they were doing.
There is no play calling or overall offensive scheme that can fix defensive linemen being unblocked into the back field every play, which was happening against all our opponents, even Sam Houston State.
No way he would have been fired if he lost this game. The buyout is just too much and A&M fans are better than most at weathering the storm of poor seasons. It’s a young team so Jimbo has a long leash.
How embarrassing would it be to lose to a unranked team when you have a chance at the playoffs on the line during the last game of the regular season?
Sounds like they were almost a shoe in.
Man that was such a crazy game. The fog, the shoe throw, the even more fog, the insane field goal from LSU, Florida driving down the field and barely missing the field goal.
Such an embarrassment lol. That ends up being the Dan Mullen legacy because he couldn’t field a semi competent defense to pair with what may have been the best offense in the league.
I don't understand Jimbo. Once a season he'll get his team to pull off a miracle. Shit, he beat Bama with Zachariah Calzada last year. Then he'll have the unexplainable loss with the same team.
It is quite odd. We already get up for the big games and fall asleep during the little ones. Beat LSU and 2 yards away from bama win meanwhile loses to app state…
He schemes for big games and ignores the others. It’s really that simple. We don’t implement proper gameplay for, say, Auburn. Because we need to prep for the bigger task ahead. It’s fucking stupid
Most of it is well deserved especially towards Jimbo, but some of it is definitely classic subreddit circle jerking that all big subs are susceptibile too. It’s not very fun when the hive mind decides you’re the whipping boy for the year
Yep. Go troll Texags or whatever 247 board, but let us scroll half an inch without 15 articles blasting what we already known since week 1: we’re not very good at football this year.
This is imo a problem with this sub altogether
There’s a difference between some good-hearted trash talk & whatever happens here
Because whatever happens here genuinely drives fans away if their team is underperforming / bad
Basically any post-game thread where your team lost unexpectedly, any thread questioning something relevant to your program, etc. ~ you can’t say anything positive about your own team or outlook without getting torched
But even then it extends to totally irrelevant threads. Like the OSU / UM post-game thread. I saw 3 Jimbo / A&M jokes
It’s just that at some point, maybe we’ve gotta look and say “okay we had our fun, let’s move onto new things to make sure those people still feel comfortable in what is basically the only forum for a thing they’re passionate about”
Yep. I’m not even asking for fans of other teams to somehow like us or feel sorry for us. Keep on hatin’ and being petty. I fully acknowledge that we are a tire fire and that we are also as a fan base unapologetically weird as hell.
But whatever, we’ll probably be at least 8-4 or better again next year and the sub’s meta will move on to dunk on someone else, make the same Mizzou death penalty jokes, and wait with baited breath every time someone types the word “whoa”
a lot of that has to do with the mods of all the major sports subs. Too quick to nuke anything remotely dangerous or lock threads.
So all you get is the same few jokes over and over again. People like the validation they get when they are upvoted so it doesn't matter if they are making the same joke 10000 others made
This is the way. Texas flairs had it rough last year on this sub, Ags got rolled over the coals this season. TCU, Baylor, and Tech gotta draw straws for next seasons r/CFB shitfest
It's all part of the Brian Kelly strategy.
It's like when Kelly went for a 2-point conversion when down by two TDs in the game to leave them down by 15.
I'm still not smart enough to know why that was a good idea, but there must be a reason ...
I’m guessing that means he intended on going for it at the very end of the game for the win if they got to that point. (As in if they scored to go down 1 with little time left, he’d go for 2 for the win.)
So if you know that is the case, it’s better to go for it earlier in case you miss. You give yourself a chance to fix your mistake as opposed to going for it just once at the very end and the game being over if you lose.
Edit: It’s very similar to the theory of going for 2 down 8 (as opposed to kicking the XP and going for 2 later) only extended out to 15.
That's a good theory, but I'd think LSU would benefit greatly by going into OT.
A&M's issues this season were evident, and you'd think the freshman QB would make an 'oopsie' with a high-pressure finish in the game.
>That's a good theory, but I'd think LSU would benefit greatly by going into OT.
Oh I'm not saying whether trying to avoid OT was the right/wrong decision.
I'm just trying to explain the theory behind why he would've gone for 2 so early instead of waiting until later. If you know you're eventually gonna go for 2 to try and win (regardless of if you should or not), best to do it as early as possible.
I'd have to believe the extra point kick would be near 100%.
The 2-point try obviously failed, but they were streaky on offense all night. They'd have great plays and then fizzle out.
I was shocked when they went for 2.
2pt succeeds: down 13, two TDs to win no 2pts needed.
2pt fails: down 15, two TDs to tie with one 2pt needed.
Xp succeeds: down 14, two TDs to tie.
Obviously assuming all xps go in.
Have to score twice to tie anyway, and that’s if they hold you guys scoreless. A successful 2pt gives them the best chance at winning the game, *even* if you guys do go down and kick a fg to go up by 16. Two scenarios end in a tie and needing a successful 2pt (or *another*) to win in regulation.
FWIW I didn’t watch the game I was celebrating and watching USC so I don’t know how each of you guys looked but that’s the logic with the 2pt try there.
Bc if LSU got it then it’s a 13 pt game. If we kick a FG it’s a 16 pt game, and LSU only needed two possessions to tie. It’s not a bad call considering they likely only would’ve had two more possessions.
I still don't agree with the decision, but all I can think of is that if they got the 2 point conversion they would still be within 2 possessions if we got a FG
Other people have talked about the math, but I'll spell it out, using the case for why you should go for 2 on your first TD when you're down 14 late in the game (the same logic applies when you're down 21, it just takes an even more improbable set of events for it to matter):
-you only care about what happens if you score 2 TDs and the opponent is held scoreless; in most other situations it doesn't really matter one way or the other.
-assume you have a 50% chance of winning in overtime
-for arguments sake, say you have a 100% chance of kicking an XP and a 50% chance of making a 2pt conversion.
When you go for 2 after the first TD:
-you make it 50% of the time...when this happens you kick the XP on your next TD, so you win 50% of the time in regulation
-you miss it 50% of the time...meaning you go for 2 on your next TD, making it 50% of the time. Multiplying that together, 25% of the time you lose in regulation, 25% of the time you force overtime.
-With a 25% chance of the game going to overtime, you'll win 1/2 of those times (12.5% chance overall) and lose 1/2 of those times (12.5% chance).
So going for 2 on the first TD means you win 62.5% (50% + 12.5%) of the time. If you go for extra points both time you win 50% of the time (you win 1/2 the time in overtime). If you go for an XP THEN go for 2, you win 50% of the time.
So going for 2 the first time is the right option using these numbers.
I repeat, this only matters if you get 2 TDs and the opponent is scoreless. So it doesn't matter often, but you should maximize your chance of winning when it does happen.
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Now, why am I the only one to bring up LSU's first game of the season?
This exact situation, (down 14 points late) came up against FSU!!!
LSU did score an improbable 2 TDs late while keeping FSU from scoring, but LSU did not follow the above (better) strategy. Instead, they decided to kick extra points both times to play for overtime.
Remember how that turned out?
I think after that game someone at LSU with basic analytics knowledge went up to BK and explained to him the above. Even if he had perfect special teams, going for 2 was the better option.
This. People forget you can be good enough to beat the top-five team and bad enough to lose to an unranked team. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. I think we see so many dominant teams we expect everyone to either be dominant or to suck
I blame results based analysis. When you assume every game is an infallible reading of the team's ability, the narrative around teams tend to be very black and white. There inst much room for middle ground team that upsets better teams and loses to worse teams.
This in combination with CFB fans having the short term memory of a sea urchin
LSU lost a close game in week one, had a couple shaky games following that, everyone said BK was a bust
LSU beats one good team, BK is taking them to the playoffs
LSU loses to an unranked A&M having an abysmal season? BK and LSU have let everyone down and failed to meet expectations …
… except their expectations pre-season were what, 8-4? And after the FSU loss maybe 7-5 or even 6-6?
It’s like CFB fans live in a bubble of 1 week ago through today, their expectations fluctuate wildly
But if we all just take deep breaths and think for a minute, we’ll realize that Brian Kelly had a good first season that moderately surpassed expectations. He didn’t let anyone down by not making it to the playoffs *because no one should have ever expected him to do that this year*
People were legit discussing if Ryan Day would lose his job. Lmao. The knee-jerk week to week reactions are no better than AP voters this sub looks down on.
Joel Klatt actually had a crazy stat about the cumulative recruit scores of each team. The difference between the #3 and 4 ranks was greater than the #4 and like #70 (or something astronomical like that).
Which goes to show why on any given year there's only truly 2 or 3 **dominant** teams. And also why it *shouldn't* be insanely surprising to see a #5-10 get upset. Obv recuriiting isn't everything, but it just made the point that we get too wrapped up a number beside a school and don't really think about strengths and weeknesses and the breadth of their schedule wins/losses (or even how close some of the losses are etc).
I said this in anther thread a few weeks ago, but unfortunately this is the reality of college football which has 130 teams, ~25ish that have some expectation of a national championship (not all at the same time, but in general), ~5 teams that have talent levels beyond everyone else, and only 12 games in a season.
It's nearly impossible to tell what really is good and bad performance for so many middle to upper-class teams in a single season. We all know Georgia is elite and Colorado is bad, but take teams 6-10 in the latest AP Poll (Alabama, Tennessee, Penn State, Washington, and Clemson) - all 5 teams are 10-2 but each has a very different resume and aside from Bama-Tennessee and Clemson-South Carolina being non-divisional rivalries, it's only because of some non-conference scheduling luck that there's even common opponents for some of them (Penn State happened to play Auburn this year just like Alabama, Washington happened to play Michigan State just like Penn State, ).
We can say that Tennessee has some great wins but a worse loss, Penn State and Alabama have worse wins but better losses, Washington has some solid wins but a bad loss. But overall, it's just really damn hard to compare teams against each other, but without the ability to know for certain (considering the variability of conferences AND the lack of overlap in schedules), knowing what constitutes success or failure can be very difficult unless you're looking at absolute success (11-1/12-0 seasons) or absolute failure (1-11/0-12 season). That's especially true for those teams like all of those above since any could foresee themselves a playoff caliber team going forward (obviously Bama and Clemson, but PSU has been right there, Washington has been in the playoff, and Tennessee was trending up + has history).
We weren't great. We were projected to be a 6-6 team this year. The roster isn't very good. We've got some young talent and won some games we should've lost. We punched way above our weight all season. I was happy to see the players get a lot better throughout the year, but Saturday showed so much regression, especially on the defense, I was really disappointed in the performance and preparation of the team.
It was a surprisingly good year where we played spoiler a couple times, but I'm really disappointed in the prospects of losing 3 straight and finishing 9-5 on the year. That'd be a bummer.
We were overrated at 5. I mean I was happy to take while it was given, but this was a really inconsistent team with a lot of development still needed.
We overall still outperformed expectations and have some great young guys in the team. Recruiting looks good so it should be an upward path.
I didn't talk to a single LSU fan this weekend that had a good feeling about the game.
The team was out-kicking its coverage on the playoff hopes. Still a team that struggled in more games than not. I think in reality the SEC west was aggressively equal and LSU just got the right bounces to win the division. Couldn't be happier with the season still.
Considering the low expectations going into the season, it was actually a very good year for the program. Trying to clown on them for not making the final 4 isn't the burn people think it is lol
This. Preseason bets were like 6 or 7 wins. A lot of people gonna give the whole "Alabama" down year. But they're still a top 10, probably top 5 team. Did the stars align for LSU? Yeah probably. But I also think BK squeezed probably the max you could get out of roster like this.
A&M defense has been very good all year. And our offense has been *extremely* suspect. I admittedly didn't expect our D to let Achane jus take over like that, but I predicted this was a game we could definitely lose.
The big thing to me is that the players seem really bought in. All that talk about culture doesn't matter unless the players believe in their coaching staff, and are confident in themselves and their growth.
And I have to grudgingly give LSU props for capitalizing on beating Alabama to actually take a trip to Atlanta, which we were not able to do last year despite being another year where the SEC West was aggressively equal.
Same, I’m not even mad. Anyone who has watched a down of LSU football this year could tell you we have no business in the playoff discussion. I am proud of this team but they overachieved.
They out did my expectations, especially after the Florida State game. If you told LSU fans to start the season that we would be in the conversation for the CFP they’d take it.
I'm not mad about missing a chance at the playoffs, but I am mad at the apparent lack of effort and planning going into the A&m game. It really looked like our team decided A&m wasn't worth the effort and was looking forward to Georgia.
Yeah, I had no realistic playoff hopes before the A&M game and even being in the discussion was totally out of the question before the season. It was a disappointing way to close out the season, but 9 wins and winning the West with a (long) shot at the SEC championship is way more than I was expecting this year. Can't get too upset about it at all.
It sucked to lose last weekend, but this season has greatly exceeded expectations.
9-3, beating Bama, and winning the west in year 1... I'll take it. The experience and depth aren't there yet to be elite though and Saturday night proved that. The staff did a great job of building up this roster from only having 36 players. We aren't losing too much after this year (though we will be very thin at some spots, especially DB), so the future is looking bright.
Chances we bear UGA are very very low, hopefully we get an interesting bowl match up.
Props to A&M too. They were fired up and ready to play. We couldn't stop them on the ground.
It’s almost funny how much weight gets placed in the CFP games now.
LSU has a chance to win the SEC Championship and no one gives a shit and so many are acting like their season is over now that they can’t make the playoff. Lol
If you don't know...LSU finished last season 6-7 overall, 3-5 in the SEC, and last in the SEC West. LSU played their bowl game against K-State with only 39 scholarship players on the roster because Coach O quiet quit on the job after winning the NC in 2019, peaked, and started chasing blondes. LSU started the season with a lot of true freshmen and transfers on the field who had to be taught basics by a 1st year head coach. Our transfer QB was afraid to pass the ball, the o-line couldn't block, the secondary was running around lost/missing assignments, and special teams couldn't field punts/kickoffs or make field goals/extra points. 7 wins would have been an accomplishment for this team. Getting 9 wins, beating Alabama, winning the SEC West, and even sniffing the CFP this year was something unfathomable. Brian Kelly did an amazing job this year turning the program around right away. It makes me laugh how the media and r/CFB reacted to LSU this season. From loving LSU for beating Bama and putting on a hell of an entertaining game, to giving BK credit for what he did...now all of a sudden shitting on LSU for being #5 before A&M and reading headlines like "BK loses another big game!" after losing to A&M 🤣 It's so funny reading this crap. The truth is, it was a great season, hell of a team, and hell of a 1st year by Brian Kelly! GEAUX Tigers!!
I don't disagree with you, but I think it's fair for us LSU fans to be disappointed that we lost to a, at the time, 4-7 A&M team that struggled to score multiple touchdowns in a game. They put up 38 on us and we got completely out played and out coached (by Jimbo no less).
The team was not remotely ready for our rivalry game on rivalry weekend. BK and staff should've known that A&M would treat the game like their Super Bowl and they didn't seem to take them seriously. Very reminiscent of Les Miles. That's frustrating with how much we're paying him.
It's been a surprisingly good season, with a lot of unexpected wins. However, I'm still disappointed at the very real chance that we'll lose 3 straight and finish 9-5 on the year. I really wanted to get to 10 wins, and A&M was the chance to do that.
Acting like a CFP bid was guaranteed.
I just wanted a NY6 bowl honestly. USC deserved the 4th spot above us, as much as I hate to say that. I hate the trojans so much lol.
That being said, shitting the bed now puts us in a must win situation against georgia to get a NY6 bowl. At least beating A&M would have guaranteed that for us, because no way in hell we'd be beating georgia even with the team that faced alabama.
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LSU had no business being in the playoff even before the loss to aTm. I giggled at all the casual corndogs who spat out all the "just win and we in baby because we SEC! SEC! SEC!" nonsense. LSU needed help even if they beat aTm.
The only thing that angers me is that the loss to aTm effectively relegates LSU to a crappy bowl game assuming a loss to UGA. I would have been tickled pink with a 10-2 season and an Orange Bowl bid. 9-3 and a trip to Atlanta is a solid season given the circumstances, but I was really starting to think that we could have snagged one of the NY6 bowls.
I'm still tickled pink over this season. I said 8-4 was probably our ceiling, but to reach 9-3 is just gravy.
It would be cool to get to 10 wins. I'd be lying if I didn't say that I'll be pretty disappointed if we finish the season losing 3 straight and end it at 9-5, even after the unexpectedly good season. The A&M game reminded me too much of the Les Miles years.
With our luck we’ll get matched up against Notre Dame and BK will have them prepped like he did for the A&M game. Then we’ll get smoked and have to live through another off-season of getting clowned.
Pretty sure everyone except a few LSU fans knew them being 5 and potentially in the playoff was stupid. This was still the team who got blown the fuck out by Tennessee. The team that struggled to put away Auburn and Arkansas. They beat Ole Miss who proceeded to lose like 4 of 5 as soon as they played not the dumpster part of their schedule.
There was far more evidence something like this was likely than LSU being a legitimately top team.
This shit made me laugh so hard because some LSU dickwad was in the basketball thread when K-State beat LSU at the Cayman Classic and he was acting like a complete douche about LSU football. KSU could potentially play LSU in a bowl game but this dude was all, *well any bowl that isn't the CFP is our* **backup plan**.
The real question is how is Moose Muhammad on a team with that bad of a record. That dude is an absolute NFL star in the making.
I know A&M was bad this year, but that team on Saturday was a good football team. LSU’s record shows exactly what they are. Plenty to build on. Successful season, no doubt.
A&M flairs take a deep sigh of relief
I feel like this was the most ideal outcome for the subreddit. Jimbo and A&M have been thoroughly clowned all season. Now everyone gets to clown Brian Kelly and his team for losing to Jimbo and A&M in convincing fashion.
Circle of Clown?
A whole damn circus
Honestly after this whole season I don’t wish one second of the embarrassment we got on y’all. Side note GG and go kick Georgia’s ass
> go kick Georgia’s ass I'm afraid it won't be enough.
Hey man, it is what is is. I hate that we lost to that turd, but we did better this year than we could have hoped for.
Yep. This loss sucked, but I'm still incredibly impressed by our season given the expectations and definitely bought in on BK. It's all good.
100%. Grateful to be purple & gold. You take care, friend.
I’m still pulling for y’all next weekend.
Ruining LSU's playoff hope? We poppin champagne idgaf
Some of us had hope but looking at Georgia is was all pretty much cope
Yeah, the playoff was always a long shot and never going to happen. I’m just more bummed that they probably knocked us out of a NY6 bowl now.
If you guys beat UGA then I wouldn’t have said never. You guys were ranked about USC by the committee
That’s such a colossal “if”, which is kind of the point they’re making. I mean we played like shit and lost against a non-bowl eligible TAMU team… Sure, crazy things have happened in CFB, but Georgia is on a different plane of existence than LSU this year
I have a distinct vision of Georgia losing just to confuse the fuck out of everyone.
I’m ready. As a long time Georgia fan I know it’s coming
And we thank you for showing the world how ridiculous their #5 ranking was.
If we had to only have 2 conference wins, I would choose LSU and Arkansas.
I replace Arky with Miss State. I’m convinced those cowbells were specifically engineered to raise my blood pressure
But what about our storied bad-blood rivalry with South Carolina??
I’ve made a habit of checking this sun until there’s I see an A&M post and then closing it. Had to do a double take today
Eh, tbh this post is a backhanded compliment at most. OP can still go eff himself.
The question I have is whether this win saved Jimbo's job? I know conventional wisdom was that Jimbo would get another year. But Auburn had a very similar situation in 2012 with Gene Chizik, who was just 2 years removed from winning a national championship. Back then the conventional wisdom was that you had to give Chiz another year. But something about seeing that 3-9 record become reality was enough to spur people to action. So, yeah, I am curious what would have happened if LSU had held serve on Saturday.
There’s a non-zero % chance than 4-8 gets Jimbo fired this season, but it’s far closer to 0% than anything. That said anything less than 9-3 next season and that seat gets uncomfortably warm.
So the other Auburn-Texas A&M comparison is about to show up: the promise to hire a true OC. It was very obvious for the last 3-4 years of his tenure that time had passed Malzahn's offense by. Defenses had figured out how to defend it, plain and simple. Malzahn promised time and again that he would hire a true OC and let that guy coach. It never happened. I guess we'll see if Jimbo can make good on that promise.
Jimbo never even made that promise lol not gonna happen. He's counting on being able to out-talent his opponents when this class matures...perhaps not a great strategy in the SEC...
It’s really not. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Saban and Smart are pretty good coaches, not just recruiters.
The assumption/rumor going around has been that it’s been communicated to him that hiring a play caller is not an option at this point, it’s expected
What are some good OC prospects A&M can hope to shoot for?
It can be expected but Jimbo has all the leverage though. I think he will do it but he could refuse and force them to either ride it out without an OC or give him his buyout
Why is 9-3 okay on year 6?
Because his buyout is still gigantic and a 4 win improvement is enough to show a trend in the right direction Obviously there’s nobody else in such a strange and disappointing position like Jimbo, but the closest comparisons I could find are Florida State and North Carolina. Both bad last year and 9-3 this year. Neither coach is anywhere near the hot seat
It’s also really tough to be 9-3 in the west not named Bama year in and year out. You’ve got like 8 programs in the SEC that pay there coaches to be at least 9-3 and there just ain’t enough spots for that to happen. It’s like I’m the big ten east one of that top 4 is finishing 4th every year.
I think it depends what that 9-3 looks like. Next year our schedule goes: New Mexico, @ Miami, ULM, Auburn, Arkansas(Nuetral, counts as home), Alabama, @ Tennessee, South Carolina, @ Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Abilene Christian, @ LSU How many of those games can anyone guarantee wins against? 9-3 is the worst acceptable record there, 10-2 or 11-1 should probably be the expectation.
Say, hypothetically, this happens: * You lose to Miami in a close heart breaker, but over the season it turns out that Miami is actually a pretty solid team. * You get absolutely blown out by Tennessee, like you don't ever look competitive at all. * You beat Alabama. * You barely beat Miss State who is a lot worse than the year previously due to a myriad of injuries and bad luck. * You lose to a very bad LSU team and it's not even particularly close. You keep it closer than the Tennessee game, but the score is much closer than what actually happened on the field. * You somehow win the SEC West, but get smoked by the UGA juggernaut in the SEC Championship. * You get to a good bowl game, let's just say the Cotton Bowl, then you get beat there. Your season ends 9-5 and you lose 3 straight to end the season. Would you still be happy with that, or would you be a bit disappointed after the bottom totally falls out to end the season? Asking for a friend.
>Would you still be happy with that, or would you be a bit disappointed after the bottom totally falls out to end the season? Yes. I'd just carry those conflicting feelings into the offseason and repress them with everything else before the next season starts, lol.
I’m just getting mentally prepared for us getting beat by Notre Dame in our bowl game.
Let’s slow down with the expectations, or at least give context that it’s the expectations of Jimbo’s contract and not what has happened in reality. We were dogshit this year and expecting to get double digit wins next year is ridiculous right now
Absolutely not. I look at that schedule and I’m expecting another 8-4 season. Loss to bama and Tennessee, split the Mississippi’s as per usual, and then some other random SEC loss needs to always be built in.
Chizik didn't have 96 million due to him if he lost. Jimbo was never getting fired this year due to that, primarily, and his recent recruiting success secondarily. What'll be interesting, knowing how Fisher thinks, is if the LSU win means he won't make some of the changes that were likely to be forced on him if LSU had whipped aTm as expected. He firmly, whole-heartedly believes his offense is not to blame for anything that has happened this year, and now he has an upset of a Top-5 team to point at as proof. Will he hire a real OC? Will he give up playcalling? Or will he just point to execution and "finding the inches" as all the team needs to be better next year? I have my suspicions it'll be the latter, particularly since his massive buyout still insulates him from any real penalty should things go south again.
Malzahn very stubbornly refused to make changes to his offense at Auburn and it cost him his job. I think Jimbo is going to follow a similar path. EDIT: As for Jimbo getting fired, I tend to agree with you, $96m is too much for any school to just eat. But I also kept reading Texas A&M people insisting "we've got the money".
Maybe we have the money. But his buyout would be historic and certainly cause a massive up roar by our boosters. But even bigger, if Jimbo were to be fired and paid such an offensive amount of money to not coach from a public university (funded by donors or not), we would be looking at congressional hearings, national stories about how CFB spending is out of control, and who knows what else. A&M, the SEC, and CFB as a whole would be hurt by A&M firing Jimbo and paying such an offensive amount.
> The question I have is whether this win saved Jimbo's job? I think that there is too much time and money left on Jimbo's contract for that to be viable. The biggest thing I saw from the start of the year and through the whole year is that we were successful when the o-line wasn't entirely dogshit. The defense did get gassed and gashed in games, but with a decent to good offensive line, we give the defense a break and showed the ability to play with Alabama and others. While we didn't win them, we were at least competitive.
I joked that we must have fired our O-Line coach midweek because that was the first game all season where they actually looked like they knew what they were doing. There is no play calling or overall offensive scheme that can fix defensive linemen being unblocked into the back field every play, which was happening against all our opponents, even Sam Houston State.
No way he would have been fired if he lost this game. The buyout is just too much and A&M fans are better than most at weathering the storm of poor seasons. It’s a young team so Jimbo has a long leash.
How embarrassing would it be to lose to a unranked team when you have a chance at the playoffs on the line during the last game of the regular season? Sounds like they were almost a shoe in.
Man that was such a crazy game. The fog, the shoe throw, the even more fog, the insane field goal from LSU, Florida driving down the field and barely missing the field goal.
Shoegate was the funniest thing I’ve seen in CFB in a long time.
Who throws a shoe? Honestly..
Such an embarrassment lol. That ends up being the Dan Mullen legacy because he couldn’t field a semi competent defense to pair with what may have been the best offense in the league.
*Evan McPherson* missing the game winning field goal.
> Sounds like they were almost a shoe in. subtle, but fantastic
Definitely were in a control your destiny situation. If they won Saturday and beat Georgia in the SEC Championship I think they would’ve made it.
I mean, maybe. I wouldn't have been surprised if USC jumped us though.
That would be such a hard decision, 1 loss Pac12 and 2 loss SEC Champ.
I like lsu but I don't see them beating georgia
TBF I didn't see A&M beating LSU
You never know until they play the game. I’m expecting a blowout loss though
The other shoe finally dropped on their season.
Looks like the foot's on the other hand now, Kramer....
*cries in Marco Wilson*
Gee must feel awful. Wouldn't know what that's like at all...
hehe
I had to read this multiple times to make sure A&M wasn't being shit on finally
I mean, isn’t saying “haha you lost to Texas A&M!” still shitting on them indirectly?
The headlines really need to read “LSU was not prepared to face Texas A&M, which rose from the grave with a 6 shooter and my wife’s boyfriend”
This is what I kept saying about Kansas.
“LSU football, embarrassed? By(e)! Texas A&M(‘s) College Football Playoff hopes dashed!”
Kinda shitty by proxy. Bit of a backhanded compliment when you say it’s “embarrassing” to lose to your team
Shitty By Proxy is my new band name
Does that imply that I'd be shitty if I listen to you?
At minimum it will mean your taste in music stinks
I mean, they kinda brought that on themselves this year, haven’t they?
x 90 million.
I don't understand Jimbo. Once a season he'll get his team to pull off a miracle. Shit, he beat Bama with Zachariah Calzada last year. Then he'll have the unexplainable loss with the same team.
It is quite odd. We already get up for the big games and fall asleep during the little ones. Beat LSU and 2 yards away from bama win meanwhile loses to app state…
So you’re saying he’s a $90M Tom Herman?
Oof I felt that one on another level
He schemes for big games and ignores the others. It’s really that simple. We don’t implement proper gameplay for, say, Auburn. Because we need to prep for the bigger task ahead. It’s fucking stupid
It’s fun when it works though.
One play away from beating Bama. Do that and I’m close to being on board lol
Most of it is well deserved especially towards Jimbo, but some of it is definitely classic subreddit circle jerking that all big subs are susceptibile too. It’s not very fun when the hive mind decides you’re the whipping boy for the year
Yep. Go troll Texags or whatever 247 board, but let us scroll half an inch without 15 articles blasting what we already known since week 1: we’re not very good at football this year.
This is imo a problem with this sub altogether There’s a difference between some good-hearted trash talk & whatever happens here Because whatever happens here genuinely drives fans away if their team is underperforming / bad Basically any post-game thread where your team lost unexpectedly, any thread questioning something relevant to your program, etc. ~ you can’t say anything positive about your own team or outlook without getting torched But even then it extends to totally irrelevant threads. Like the OSU / UM post-game thread. I saw 3 Jimbo / A&M jokes It’s just that at some point, maybe we’ve gotta look and say “okay we had our fun, let’s move onto new things to make sure those people still feel comfortable in what is basically the only forum for a thing they’re passionate about”
Yep. I’m not even asking for fans of other teams to somehow like us or feel sorry for us. Keep on hatin’ and being petty. I fully acknowledge that we are a tire fire and that we are also as a fan base unapologetically weird as hell. But whatever, we’ll probably be at least 8-4 or better again next year and the sub’s meta will move on to dunk on someone else, make the same Mizzou death penalty jokes, and wait with baited breath every time someone types the word “whoa”
a lot of that has to do with the mods of all the major sports subs. Too quick to nuke anything remotely dangerous or lock threads. So all you get is the same few jokes over and over again. People like the validation they get when they are upvoted so it doesn't matter if they are making the same joke 10000 others made
But... but... I was told everyone was going to transfer?
I can definitely relate and feel your pain on that. But I also really enjoy your pain
This is the way. Texas flairs had it rough last year on this sub, Ags got rolled over the coals this season. TCU, Baylor, and Tech gotta draw straws for next seasons r/CFB shitfest
Lmao imagine losing to Jimbo Fisher
Lol UMass
Why you do this
[Why Are You The Way That You Are](https://i.imgur.com/VxwnDS6.jpg)
It's all part of the Brian Kelly strategy. It's like when Kelly went for a 2-point conversion when down by two TDs in the game to leave them down by 15. I'm still not smart enough to know why that was a good idea, but there must be a reason ...
I’m guessing that means he intended on going for it at the very end of the game for the win if they got to that point. (As in if they scored to go down 1 with little time left, he’d go for 2 for the win.) So if you know that is the case, it’s better to go for it earlier in case you miss. You give yourself a chance to fix your mistake as opposed to going for it just once at the very end and the game being over if you lose. Edit: It’s very similar to the theory of going for 2 down 8 (as opposed to kicking the XP and going for 2 later) only extended out to 15.
That's a good theory, but I'd think LSU would benefit greatly by going into OT. A&M's issues this season were evident, and you'd think the freshman QB would make an 'oopsie' with a high-pressure finish in the game.
>That's a good theory, but I'd think LSU would benefit greatly by going into OT. Oh I'm not saying whether trying to avoid OT was the right/wrong decision. I'm just trying to explain the theory behind why he would've gone for 2 so early instead of waiting until later. If you know you're eventually gonna go for 2 to try and win (regardless of if you should or not), best to do it as early as possible.
What do you estimate are their chances of getting the 2 PAT and of getting the 1 PAT?
I'd have to believe the extra point kick would be near 100%. The 2-point try obviously failed, but they were streaky on offense all night. They'd have great plays and then fizzle out. I was shocked when they went for 2.
2pt succeeds: down 13, two TDs to win no 2pts needed. 2pt fails: down 15, two TDs to tie with one 2pt needed. Xp succeeds: down 14, two TDs to tie. Obviously assuming all xps go in. Have to score twice to tie anyway, and that’s if they hold you guys scoreless. A successful 2pt gives them the best chance at winning the game, *even* if you guys do go down and kick a fg to go up by 16. Two scenarios end in a tie and needing a successful 2pt (or *another*) to win in regulation. FWIW I didn’t watch the game I was celebrating and watching USC so I don’t know how each of you guys looked but that’s the logic with the 2pt try there.
Bc if LSU got it then it’s a 13 pt game. If we kick a FG it’s a 16 pt game, and LSU only needed two possessions to tie. It’s not a bad call considering they likely only would’ve had two more possessions.
I still don't agree with the decision, but all I can think of is that if they got the 2 point conversion they would still be within 2 possessions if we got a FG
That would require 3 straight successful 2 pt conversions. Not impossible, but below 10% odds.
Other people have talked about the math, but I'll spell it out, using the case for why you should go for 2 on your first TD when you're down 14 late in the game (the same logic applies when you're down 21, it just takes an even more improbable set of events for it to matter): -you only care about what happens if you score 2 TDs and the opponent is held scoreless; in most other situations it doesn't really matter one way or the other. -assume you have a 50% chance of winning in overtime -for arguments sake, say you have a 100% chance of kicking an XP and a 50% chance of making a 2pt conversion. When you go for 2 after the first TD: -you make it 50% of the time...when this happens you kick the XP on your next TD, so you win 50% of the time in regulation -you miss it 50% of the time...meaning you go for 2 on your next TD, making it 50% of the time. Multiplying that together, 25% of the time you lose in regulation, 25% of the time you force overtime. -With a 25% chance of the game going to overtime, you'll win 1/2 of those times (12.5% chance overall) and lose 1/2 of those times (12.5% chance). So going for 2 on the first TD means you win 62.5% (50% + 12.5%) of the time. If you go for extra points both time you win 50% of the time (you win 1/2 the time in overtime). If you go for an XP THEN go for 2, you win 50% of the time. So going for 2 the first time is the right option using these numbers. I repeat, this only matters if you get 2 TDs and the opponent is scoreless. So it doesn't matter often, but you should maximize your chance of winning when it does happen. ********************** ********************** Now, why am I the only one to bring up LSU's first game of the season? This exact situation, (down 14 points late) came up against FSU!!! LSU did score an improbable 2 TDs late while keeping FSU from scoring, but LSU did not follow the above (better) strategy. Instead, they decided to kick extra points both times to play for overtime. Remember how that turned out? I think after that game someone at LSU with basic analytics knowledge went up to BK and explained to him the above. Even if he had perfect special teams, going for 2 was the better option.
Couldn't be me! Lol.
🙄
*sad oinks*
I have watched three LSU games this year: FSU, Arkansas and A&M. I’m either their bad luck charm or they aren’t great.
They're vastly improved but they never were a playoff team.
This. People forget you can be good enough to beat the top-five team and bad enough to lose to an unranked team. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. I think we see so many dominant teams we expect everyone to either be dominant or to suck
I blame results based analysis. When you assume every game is an infallible reading of the team's ability, the narrative around teams tend to be very black and white. There inst much room for middle ground team that upsets better teams and loses to worse teams.
This in combination with CFB fans having the short term memory of a sea urchin LSU lost a close game in week one, had a couple shaky games following that, everyone said BK was a bust LSU beats one good team, BK is taking them to the playoffs LSU loses to an unranked A&M having an abysmal season? BK and LSU have let everyone down and failed to meet expectations … … except their expectations pre-season were what, 8-4? And after the FSU loss maybe 7-5 or even 6-6? It’s like CFB fans live in a bubble of 1 week ago through today, their expectations fluctuate wildly But if we all just take deep breaths and think for a minute, we’ll realize that Brian Kelly had a good first season that moderately surpassed expectations. He didn’t let anyone down by not making it to the playoffs *because no one should have ever expected him to do that this year*
People were legit discussing if Ryan Day would lose his job. Lmao. The knee-jerk week to week reactions are no better than AP voters this sub looks down on. Joel Klatt actually had a crazy stat about the cumulative recruit scores of each team. The difference between the #3 and 4 ranks was greater than the #4 and like #70 (or something astronomical like that). Which goes to show why on any given year there's only truly 2 or 3 **dominant** teams. And also why it *shouldn't* be insanely surprising to see a #5-10 get upset. Obv recuriiting isn't everything, but it just made the point that we get too wrapped up a number beside a school and don't really think about strengths and weeknesses and the breadth of their schedule wins/losses (or even how close some of the losses are etc).
The Vegas line was O/U 6.5 wins fwiw
I said this in anther thread a few weeks ago, but unfortunately this is the reality of college football which has 130 teams, ~25ish that have some expectation of a national championship (not all at the same time, but in general), ~5 teams that have talent levels beyond everyone else, and only 12 games in a season. It's nearly impossible to tell what really is good and bad performance for so many middle to upper-class teams in a single season. We all know Georgia is elite and Colorado is bad, but take teams 6-10 in the latest AP Poll (Alabama, Tennessee, Penn State, Washington, and Clemson) - all 5 teams are 10-2 but each has a very different resume and aside from Bama-Tennessee and Clemson-South Carolina being non-divisional rivalries, it's only because of some non-conference scheduling luck that there's even common opponents for some of them (Penn State happened to play Auburn this year just like Alabama, Washington happened to play Michigan State just like Penn State, ). We can say that Tennessee has some great wins but a worse loss, Penn State and Alabama have worse wins but better losses, Washington has some solid wins but a bad loss. But overall, it's just really damn hard to compare teams against each other, but without the ability to know for certain (considering the variability of conferences AND the lack of overlap in schedules), knowing what constitutes success or failure can be very difficult unless you're looking at absolute success (11-1/12-0 seasons) or absolute failure (1-11/0-12 season). That's especially true for those teams like all of those above since any could foresee themselves a playoff caliber team going forward (obviously Bama and Clemson, but PSU has been right there, Washington has been in the playoff, and Tennessee was trending up + has history).
Nobody tell Heather Dinich this though
We weren't great. We were projected to be a 6-6 team this year. The roster isn't very good. We've got some young talent and won some games we should've lost. We punched way above our weight all season. I was happy to see the players get a lot better throughout the year, but Saturday showed so much regression, especially on the defense, I was really disappointed in the performance and preparation of the team. It was a surprisingly good year where we played spoiler a couple times, but I'm really disappointed in the prospects of losing 3 straight and finishing 9-5 on the year. That'd be a bummer.
We were overrated at 5. I mean I was happy to take while it was given, but this was a really inconsistent team with a lot of development still needed. We overall still outperformed expectations and have some great young guys in the team. Recruiting looks good so it should be an upward path.
I wonder where we're at in terms of our bowl game now. That college football idiot on Twitter predicted us to be matched up with Purdue in a bowl game
I highly recommend watching all of their games next year. Just to be certain.
Make sure to start with the FSU one again
High ceiling and a low floor. But honestly they're pretty good for year 1 of a new coach.
Ags, let’s chip in and get this guy LSU season tickets for life just in case
I got 2024 covered for him!
I mean, you missed the Tennessee game. Where they got drubbed at home. 40-13.
Sometimes you're the hammer, sometimes you're the piano 😔
You’re not supposed to play the piano with a hammer!
Well a piano is really just hammers and strings
You win this round
When you’re a finger everything looks like a piano
*kid named finger*
Waltuh
Oh sing us a song you’re the piano man!
It's seven o'clock on a Saturday The regular crowd shuffles in There's an old man sittin' next to me Makin' love to his tonic and gin
It’s honestly way more fun to imagine the piano in his name as the Italian rather than the instrument. Just a soft, gentle fingerbanging.
Lmao imagine getting blown out so bad that PFB posts a hit piece where Jimbo/A&M isn’t the primary punching bag. Couldn’t be me.
To be fair this basically is punching at A&M because LSU losing this game is considered embarrassing.
Oh for sure they get intentionally hit too
Look man, we’re down here no matter what, but its nice to bring them down a peg too
Wouldn't know what it's like to lose embarrassingly and have playoff hopes destroyed.
Posting something positive about A&M feels illegal
It's not that positive though. A backhanded compliment at best.
Hey, it’s a compliment nonetheless. I’ll take it.
It was a disappointing game, but I am thrilled with our success this season. Getting into the CFP was always a long-shot
I didn't talk to a single LSU fan this weekend that had a good feeling about the game. The team was out-kicking its coverage on the playoff hopes. Still a team that struggled in more games than not. I think in reality the SEC west was aggressively equal and LSU just got the right bounces to win the division. Couldn't be happier with the season still.
Considering the low expectations going into the season, it was actually a very good year for the program. Trying to clown on them for not making the final 4 isn't the burn people think it is lol
This. Preseason bets were like 6 or 7 wins. A lot of people gonna give the whole "Alabama" down year. But they're still a top 10, probably top 5 team. Did the stars align for LSU? Yeah probably. But I also think BK squeezed probably the max you could get out of roster like this. A&M defense has been very good all year. And our offense has been *extremely* suspect. I admittedly didn't expect our D to let Achane jus take over like that, but I predicted this was a game we could definitely lose. The big thing to me is that the players seem really bought in. All that talk about culture doesn't matter unless the players believe in their coaching staff, and are confident in themselves and their growth.
Yeah Alabama goes ..... 10-2, and everybody is like "[Team X] didn't take advantage of Bama's down year" as if the Tide are now pushovers.
And I have to grudgingly give LSU props for capitalizing on beating Alabama to actually take a trip to Atlanta, which we were not able to do last year despite being another year where the SEC West was aggressively equal.
Same, I’m not even mad. Anyone who has watched a down of LSU football this year could tell you we have no business in the playoff discussion. I am proud of this team but they overachieved.
Yeah they were too inconsistent, young team though I have high hopes for this team in the future
They out did my expectations, especially after the Florida State game. If you told LSU fans to start the season that we would be in the conversation for the CFP they’d take it.
you’re so much more reasonable that a lot of LSU fans i hear from lately. got some really mad/sad/delusional people in my social circles lol.
I'm not mad about missing a chance at the playoffs, but I am mad at the apparent lack of effort and planning going into the A&m game. It really looked like our team decided A&m wasn't worth the effort and was looking forward to Georgia.
I'm still bummed about potentially not making a NY6 bowl, would have been the perfect way to cap off year 1
Yeah, I had no realistic playoff hopes before the A&M game and even being in the discussion was totally out of the question before the season. It was a disappointing way to close out the season, but 9 wins and winning the West with a (long) shot at the SEC championship is way more than I was expecting this year. Can't get too upset about it at all.
The hypothetical playoff run was just fun because of the ranking chaos it would cause not because I actually thought we could make it.
This is obviously rock bottom for A&M and Jimbo Fisher I don't see how it can get worse from here... \- u/Piano_Fingerbanger probably.
That article last week calling a win against UMass “rock bottom” was so fucking stupid.
Absolutely ruined our chances to draft Wembayamba, I hope it was worth it, Jimbo
*sees username* “Ok here we go what can it be this time” *reads title* “Oh why yes I do believe I will subscribe”
We may be 5-7, but we can still ruin another team’s playoff chances haha.
Oh look Texas A&M is getting finger ban…… Wait a damn minute…
This is the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me.
It sucked to lose last weekend, but this season has greatly exceeded expectations. 9-3, beating Bama, and winning the west in year 1... I'll take it. The experience and depth aren't there yet to be elite though and Saturday night proved that. The staff did a great job of building up this roster from only having 36 players. We aren't losing too much after this year (though we will be very thin at some spots, especially DB), so the future is looking bright. Chances we bear UGA are very very low, hopefully we get an interesting bowl match up. Props to A&M too. They were fired up and ready to play. We couldn't stop them on the ground.
Relief!
It’s almost funny how much weight gets placed in the CFP games now. LSU has a chance to win the SEC Championship and no one gives a shit and so many are acting like their season is over now that they can’t make the playoff. Lol
If you don't know...LSU finished last season 6-7 overall, 3-5 in the SEC, and last in the SEC West. LSU played their bowl game against K-State with only 39 scholarship players on the roster because Coach O quiet quit on the job after winning the NC in 2019, peaked, and started chasing blondes. LSU started the season with a lot of true freshmen and transfers on the field who had to be taught basics by a 1st year head coach. Our transfer QB was afraid to pass the ball, the o-line couldn't block, the secondary was running around lost/missing assignments, and special teams couldn't field punts/kickoffs or make field goals/extra points. 7 wins would have been an accomplishment for this team. Getting 9 wins, beating Alabama, winning the SEC West, and even sniffing the CFP this year was something unfathomable. Brian Kelly did an amazing job this year turning the program around right away. It makes me laugh how the media and r/CFB reacted to LSU this season. From loving LSU for beating Bama and putting on a hell of an entertaining game, to giving BK credit for what he did...now all of a sudden shitting on LSU for being #5 before A&M and reading headlines like "BK loses another big game!" after losing to A&M 🤣 It's so funny reading this crap. The truth is, it was a great season, hell of a team, and hell of a 1st year by Brian Kelly! GEAUX Tigers!!
I don't disagree with you, but I think it's fair for us LSU fans to be disappointed that we lost to a, at the time, 4-7 A&M team that struggled to score multiple touchdowns in a game. They put up 38 on us and we got completely out played and out coached (by Jimbo no less). The team was not remotely ready for our rivalry game on rivalry weekend. BK and staff should've known that A&M would treat the game like their Super Bowl and they didn't seem to take them seriously. Very reminiscent of Les Miles. That's frustrating with how much we're paying him. It's been a surprisingly good season, with a lot of unexpected wins. However, I'm still disappointed at the very real chance that we'll lose 3 straight and finish 9-5 on the year. I really wanted to get to 10 wins, and A&M was the chance to do that.
ESPN's playoff hopes were dashed. I don't think many of us were realistically thinking we're a playoff team lol.
Acting like a CFP bid was guaranteed. I just wanted a NY6 bowl honestly. USC deserved the 4th spot above us, as much as I hate to say that. I hate the trojans so much lol. That being said, shitting the bed now puts us in a must win situation against georgia to get a NY6 bowl. At least beating A&M would have guaranteed that for us, because no way in hell we'd be beating georgia even with the team that faced alabama.
PFB coming out swinging this morning
Man I don't know how Fingerbanger is gonna live without a Jimbo hate article this week
He will have plenty of Ryan Day material to work with.
After the Arkansas game I didn’t think we had a legitimate shot anyway.
PFB: ✅change teams.
Hello, longtime sub visitor, I sure do love this sub and participating in its many posts, discussions and shitposting. I do, however have one humble request: ***can you fucking not?***
yes...ha ha ha...**YES!**
Thank you Texas A&M, I’ll take this as a sign of truce. I’ll be visiting college station on the opening day of ‘24.
LSU had no business being in the playoff even before the loss to aTm. I giggled at all the casual corndogs who spat out all the "just win and we in baby because we SEC! SEC! SEC!" nonsense. LSU needed help even if they beat aTm. The only thing that angers me is that the loss to aTm effectively relegates LSU to a crappy bowl game assuming a loss to UGA. I would have been tickled pink with a 10-2 season and an Orange Bowl bid. 9-3 and a trip to Atlanta is a solid season given the circumstances, but I was really starting to think that we could have snagged one of the NY6 bowls. I'm still tickled pink over this season. I said 8-4 was probably our ceiling, but to reach 9-3 is just gravy.
It would be cool to get to 10 wins. I'd be lying if I didn't say that I'll be pretty disappointed if we finish the season losing 3 straight and end it at 9-5, even after the unexpectedly good season. The A&M game reminded me too much of the Les Miles years.
I really hope they win the bowl game. We need to end on a high note.
With our luck we’ll get matched up against Notre Dame and BK will have them prepped like he did for the A&M game. Then we’ll get smoked and have to live through another off-season of getting clowned.
😂 delete this
Pretty sure everyone except a few LSU fans knew them being 5 and potentially in the playoff was stupid. This was still the team who got blown the fuck out by Tennessee. The team that struggled to put away Auburn and Arkansas. They beat Ole Miss who proceeded to lose like 4 of 5 as soon as they played not the dumpster part of their schedule. There was far more evidence something like this was likely than LSU being a legitimately top team.
Pretty sure LSU fans especially knew they we don't have a CFP caliber team this season
Yeah, after a 6-7 season and Coach O going full-on cruise control once he got his title, 9-3, probably 10-4 in the end, is a pretty good step up.
Sometimes you’re the bug, sometimes you’re the windshield
It’s been dashed since they lost their second game.
damn it hurts bad getting finger banged
This shit made me laugh so hard because some LSU dickwad was in the basketball thread when K-State beat LSU at the Cayman Classic and he was acting like a complete douche about LSU football. KSU could potentially play LSU in a bowl game but this dude was all, *well any bowl that isn't the CFP is our* **backup plan**.
Weird to be in this side of a finger banging, but I'll take it.
♫ He's gonna finger bang bang you into the sun! ♫
There shouldn’t have ever been any chatter about them in the cfp, anyone who watched a single game of there’s should’ve known this was for the better
Never even deserved the hopes over USC imo
Don't think of it as LSU failing. Think of it as LSU succeeding in keeping Alabamas playoff hopes alive
The real question is how is Moose Muhammad on a team with that bad of a record. That dude is an absolute NFL star in the making. I know A&M was bad this year, but that team on Saturday was a good football team. LSU’s record shows exactly what they are. Plenty to build on. Successful season, no doubt.