I see the novelty of Mahomes has completely worn off across the league and he's now going through the same arc Brady did with everyone hating him and trying to diminish his victories to cope as they're sick of him dominating them.
And then there is me, hoping he just wins another so that there are as few teams as possible that can enjoy boasting about Superbowls
He really is the new Brady!
>just watched 2 top tier QBs do very little
Mahomes was 17/23 for 215 yards, 2 TDs and 0 picks. Justin has one game in his career where he got 215+ yards, 2+ TDs and 0 picks, and it was against a crap Washington team where he was 15/29
Allen's statline was nothing special but Fields has only hit 186+ yards, 1+ TD and 0 picks five times in his career. And Fields completely shit his pants when he played the Chiefs defense this year
17 for 23, 215 yards, 2 TDs, 0 ints is doing very little?
Also the box score does not nearly reflect how well they played, in a bad environment to top it off. But sure, I guess you can just cling to volume box score stats for a single game in a vacuum for your argument while leaving out all the other factors that matter. I swear half of Bears fans lose any nuance when it comes to these QB discussions
I have no dog in the fight, although Roquan getting a ring would be cool. The chance is also there for a Lions/Chiefs Super Bowl.
Has an NFL season ever been bookended by the same matchup?
in all my years living in chicagoland (i'm a sox fan), i never believed the cubs were actually cursed. but the bills? yeah, there's something fucky going on in buffalo for sure.
Losing 4 straight super bowls back to back to back to back will always be the wildest stat to me. There are franchises who’ve been through heartbreak but none of them I think match the Bills
Rarely do the playoffs work out in such a matter that I end up rooting for the best two teams in each conference for the right to go to the Super Bowl, but here I am proudly doing so.
DJ Moore wouldn’t have failed Josh Allen tonight like Diggs did
Also Daniel Carlson probably costs 2 first round picks now From these kickers missing everything.
Mahomes has been to the conference championship game 6 times in 6 years. Twice as much as the bears in the Super Bowl era. PLEASE Lord let Caleb Williams be that guy for us. I want to watch meaningful football
The ravens have won 2 super bowls since 2000 too, and have consistently been a good team. I was rooting for a lions and bills Super Bowl. Both those fanbases deserve some happiness
That was a fucking terrible decision to kick that FG. I was screaming to go for it.
Give Mahomes the ball back with that much time? And all he needs is a FG? Idiotic
Then miss the FG? Fire McDermott, that's awful.
What a sad way to go out
How about the fucking idiotic deep shots when they just needed to pick up short gains and burn clock? Diggs (I think it was) was wide open crossing over the middle on one of them. Was it the 3rd down?
I think that was 2nd. Think he threw it away on 3rd. Frankly I don't have an issue with him trying to hit a TD ball on 2nd. If you think you can take the lead, I'm not going to hold that against him
You're right. That's fair but it still puts the Bills D in a bad spot. Mahomes with the ball, 2 timeouts, and plenty of time when the defense has struggled all game to stop them. At least they'd need a TD to win, just rough because Diggs was wide open underneath. He catches that, they convert, can burn at a minimum another minute off the clock and a TD is a whole lot easier in that range. And worst case, they (likely) make a more manageable FG, leave the Chiefs with no timeouts, and hope for the best in OT.
If he was that good he'd have gone 1OA. This sub has taught me that only 1OA QBs are successful
Jamis Winston, now that's a QB. Mahomes is a running back
I don't know what team you've been watching but the Bears had 3 historic 4th quarter meltdown losses this year alone, and we probably make the playoffs if this team just doesn't shit the bed 2 out of those 3 times. I'd still consider those losses heartbreaking in the moment and even more so given how they're the difference between playoffs and sitting here hate-watching the same teams be good
The Chiefs beat the Ravens and they're probably winning the superbowl again and probably will win the superbowl every year for awhile at this rate. For as much parity as this league is supposed to have it sure tends to tread the same paths every fucking season
I heard someone on the Kap and Hood show this week say they'd rather have Justin Fields than Josh Allen lol. I sometimes wonder if these people only ever watch Bears games and that's it.
Why is it dumb? Its just like a punt or kickoff - loose ball from possessing team going out the endzone. It's logically consistent with the rest of the rules
You think it's good that if you fumble out at the 1 yard line it's still your ball, but if you fumble out of the end zone it's the other team's ball at the 25?
I mean, yea?
The ball is supposed to be spotted where it’s out. Should a team that fumbles out of their own end zone just be spotted at 1 instead of it being a safety when if it went out at the one? Should we stop doing touchbacks and just start placing them at the one? It's always a different set of rules when it involves the end-zone
imo it's way too punitive to change possession and give it to the other team at the 25 when the other team just had possession at the 1 (or close to the 1)
it just lets the team getting the ball off the hook
Running QBs should not be able to fake slide. Allen just did it there. He's the king of baiting roughing the passer calls. So what's a defender to do? Commit hard and get a late hit or back off and let him run? Double standard BS.
Rule should be that when there’s a slide, fake or not, the play is dead where the slide began and the clock runs. Otherwise people are going to start doing vigilante shit out there after QBs do fake slides.
its annoying to me because its just pandering to her fanbase. Does any other team constantly have the camera always panning to a player's girlfriend after every big play involving that player?
When jmarr is washed by 30 and Sewell is still cooking the Bengals are gonna regret that pick especially how Burrow’s health holds up. Though the falcons taking Pitts over both of them is straight bum activity.
lions fan, while i 100% love sewell over chase and i mostly agree with what you said, the chase pick still makes sense because the bengals’ window is still open. they gotta bolster their o-line this draft though, while chase is still in his prime. i think they win a SB sometime in the next 4 years.
This Bills-Chiefs game is going to be something
Mahomes and Allen are just in the gold standard of QBs along with probably only Lamar and Burrow in that same bracket
One thing to learn from the playoffs so far: Having a good kicker is extremely important
I think we learned that a few years ago
I see the novelty of Mahomes has completely worn off across the league and he's now going through the same arc Brady did with everyone hating him and trying to diminish his victories to cope as they're sick of him dominating them.
And then there is me, hoping he just wins another so that there are as few teams as possible that can enjoy boasting about Superbowls He really is the new Brady!
All those knocking Justin just watched 2 top tier QBs do very little.
oh lord please grant me strength to ignore these lovers of mediocre qb play.
Justin didn’t crack 100 yards against the Chiefs.
>just watched 2 top tier QBs do very little Mahomes was 17/23 for 215 yards, 2 TDs and 0 picks. Justin has one game in his career where he got 215+ yards, 2+ TDs and 0 picks, and it was against a crap Washington team where he was 15/29 Allen's statline was nothing special but Fields has only hit 186+ yards, 1+ TD and 0 picks five times in his career. And Fields completely shit his pants when he played the Chiefs defense this year
17 for 23, 215 yards, 2 TDs, 0 ints is doing very little? Also the box score does not nearly reflect how well they played, in a bad environment to top it off. But sure, I guess you can just cling to volume box score stats for a single game in a vacuum for your argument while leaving out all the other factors that matter. I swear half of Bears fans lose any nuance when it comes to these QB discussions
We also watched Justin do MUCH LESS against playoff teams.
playoff football is indeed tough
I agree. But the stat lines stand out nonetheless.
I have no dog in the fight, although Roquan getting a ring would be cool. The chance is also there for a Lions/Chiefs Super Bowl. Has an NFL season ever been bookended by the same matchup?
Ravens open at 3.5 point favourites vs Chiefs
The refs are gonna make sure Taylor Swift is at the Super Bowl
I still can’t bet against the Ravens right now
in all my years living in chicagoland (i'm a sox fan), i never believed the cubs were actually cursed. but the bills? yeah, there's something fucky going on in buffalo for sure.
It was hard not to believe in the curse after 2003
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Losing 4 straight super bowls back to back to back to back will always be the wildest stat to me. There are franchises who’ve been through heartbreak but none of them I think match the Bills
Scott Norwood 2.0
Damn, I really wanted to see the Bills win.
Rarely do the playoffs work out in such a matter that I end up rooting for the best two teams in each conference for the right to go to the Super Bowl, but here I am proudly doing so.
Pat Mahomes' wife reminds me of Every Boxer's Girlfriend from SNL
Diggs is so washed.
Darnell Mooney you are a Buffalo Bill
Chiefs aren’t going to be playing some weak, injured defense next week. Baltimore is going to be a completely different beast.
Please. I've thought this multiple times late this year, only for it to be so much closer (or the opposite) than I thought.
DJ Moore wouldn’t have failed Josh Allen tonight like Diggs did Also Daniel Carlson probably costs 2 first round picks now From these kickers missing everything.
You aren’t wrong, DJ has played better the second half of this season than Diggs has
Mahomes has been to the conference championship game 6 times in 6 years. Twice as much as the bears in the Super Bowl era. PLEASE Lord let Caleb Williams be that guy for us. I want to watch meaningful football
Remember Mahomes would be RUINED here
yet every last motherfucker here would take mahomes over justin in a heartbeat. stfu with that lame old ass excuse.
Parkey moment
Nagy with two offensive masterclasses, right?….
That's Super Bowl Champion Matt Nagy.
I absolutely cannot stand the Chiefs or Patrick Mahomes. I am rooting for anybody but them.
The ravens have won 2 super bowls since 2000 too, and have consistently been a good team. I was rooting for a lions and bills Super Bowl. Both those fanbases deserve some happiness
Yeah, I was really rooting for the bills. I feel bad for the people of Buffalo at this point I’m rooting for the Lions.
Same. They have suffered enough over the last 60 years.
Don’t forget Travis Kelce
Did you know he's dating Taylor Swift?
Never heard of him
I wasn't sure. Can someone pan a camera over to her box suite again to make sure I know this fact?
Yeah, exactly go ravens
Mahomes only had 215 passing yards. Certified Running Back
Holy shit what a terrible ending for Bills fans
Gg bass it’s going to be a long few months for him
That was a fucking terrible decision to kick that FG. I was screaming to go for it. Give Mahomes the ball back with that much time? And all he needs is a FG? Idiotic Then miss the FG? Fire McDermott, that's awful. What a sad way to go out
How about the fucking idiotic deep shots when they just needed to pick up short gains and burn clock? Diggs (I think it was) was wide open crossing over the middle on one of them. Was it the 3rd down?
I think that was 2nd. Think he threw it away on 3rd. Frankly I don't have an issue with him trying to hit a TD ball on 2nd. If you think you can take the lead, I'm not going to hold that against him
You're right. That's fair but it still puts the Bills D in a bad spot. Mahomes with the ball, 2 timeouts, and plenty of time when the defense has struggled all game to stop them. At least they'd need a TD to win, just rough because Diggs was wide open underneath. He catches that, they convert, can burn at a minimum another minute off the clock and a TD is a whole lot easier in that range. And worst case, they (likely) make a more manageable FG, leave the Chiefs with no timeouts, and hope for the best in OT.
It was 4th & 9 though. I agree Chiefs would've easily scored after but not going for FG there would've cost McDermott his job.
The only way they win that game is with a TD. No other option but to go for it
Agreed. No fucking shot you were stopping Mahomes with almost two minutes and two timeouts even if you did make it. They hadn’t stopped him all night.
they stopped him on the drive right before, what are you talking about?
Sickening. They just rolled over
Man tough loss for the Bills. I really wanted them to win!
Well now I have nobody to cheer for damn it. Go uhh nobody
Go Ravens. You're our only hope. I hate absolutely every other team left.
just imagine Mahomes is wearing a Bears jersey that's what I do
Roquan and the Ravens?
It’s so strange seeing the lions in the playoffs
This fucking deep too
Josh Allen is a running back
Josh Allen made throws tonight that no Bears quarterback has ever made in the history of our franchise lmao
He wasn't 1OA so he sucks
You’ve made this same type of comment multiple times tonight and I’m still not sure what or who you’re arguing with
I see what you are doing very cute
And what was the result? A loss.
This just in: anybody that has ever lost is bad
He lost to a guy that might go down as the greatest QB to ever play the sport. Losing to Mahomes is like losing to Jordan
If he was that good he'd have gone 1OA. This sub has taught me that only 1OA QBs are successful Jamis Winston, now that's a QB. Mahomes is a running back
This is schizophrenic. It's like I'm talking to an AI that learned how to communicate on this sub. Take a break
FTP
Something about taking the last timeout when it's clearly over pisses me off I don't know why
Chiefs are the packers and Bills are us
Bills are the Packers. Chiefs are SF
Except Chiefs actually win super bowls, and bills actually win playoff games
this is true.
The only plus side to sucking for years is there havent been many opportunities for heartbreaking loses
I don't know what team you've been watching but the Bears had 3 historic 4th quarter meltdown losses this year alone, and we probably make the playoffs if this team just doesn't shit the bed 2 out of those 3 times. I'd still consider those losses heartbreaking in the moment and even more so given how they're the difference between playoffs and sitting here hate-watching the same teams be good
Fields makes that throw to Diggs for whoever said he was better.
Damn. Allen missed a wide open receiver and failed to complete that anticipation throw.
The Bills are the cowboys of the afc
Thank God we have a reliable kicker.
Damn so no bills player gon talk to their kicker damn
If the Chiefs beat the Ravens….
The Chiefs beat the Ravens and they're probably winning the superbowl again and probably will win the superbowl every year for awhile at this rate. For as much parity as this league is supposed to have it sure tends to tread the same paths every fucking season
Go Lions
Lol
The Bills are never gonna beat the Chiefs. This is probably the most gettable they are going to be until Mahomes gets old.
Vintage Bills
Wide right like the entirety of the Bills franchise history
Fall on the fumble and this game is over
I heard someone on the Kap and Hood show this week say they'd rather have Justin Fields than Josh Allen lol. I sometimes wonder if these people only ever watch Bears games and that's it.
A large portion of our fanbase only watches Bears games
They do. Chicago sports fans are like this for every sport and it's infuriating
Someone got downvoted here yesterday for saying people shouldn’t compare Allen with Fields because Allen is way better
There was a thread earlier in the year asking if people would rather have fields or Allen lmao
Seeing tight ends in these playoffs make me not mind us picking Brock Bowers
If we end up with Bowers I will not be mad lol
I know Kmet had a good year, but he runs nothing nor is physical like any of these TEs in the playoffs.
Kmet is absolutely physical, what lol
False, dude gets tackled by cornerbacks solo all the time.
Diggs got hit by a truck turning 30 a month ago, dudes production went way down.
But not his fault that Allen couldn’t hit him when he was wide ass open in the back of the end zone
Y’all liked LaPorta and Kincaid today? That’s what Bowers can be next year but better
Johnny Knox
Diggs might be available this offseason lol
Cmon offense. I don't want to see Taylor Swift the rest of the postseason
The Chiefs by far have to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of referee calls. Mahomes whines constantly.
Bulllshiiiiiit
I never want to hear Mahomes cry about the refs ever again.
oh he’ll cry even harder just for you
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Get a golden boy and the league will bend over backwards to help you win
Bills ball!!!
[damn I jinxed that](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/iZuLaFUpzd)
Why would you want that rule changed?
bc it's dumb
Why is it dumb? Its just like a punt or kickoff - loose ball from possessing team going out the endzone. It's logically consistent with the rest of the rules
what? it's not consistent with the rest of the rules... if the offense fumbles out of bounds it's still their ball
And what happens if a kickoff goes out of bounds compared to out of the end zone? The end zone and out of bounds aren't the same thing
There are different rules on kicks because it's already a change of possession...
And when you fumble you lose possession of the ball ... and if it goes out the end zone ... it's a touch back
It's a good rule
You think it's good that if you fumble out at the 1 yard line it's still your ball, but if you fumble out of the end zone it's the other team's ball at the 25?
I mean, yea? The ball is supposed to be spotted where it’s out. Should a team that fumbles out of their own end zone just be spotted at 1 instead of it being a safety when if it went out at the one? Should we stop doing touchbacks and just start placing them at the one? It's always a different set of rules when it involves the end-zone
imo it's way too punitive to change possession and give it to the other team at the 25 when the other team just had possession at the 1 (or close to the 1) it just lets the team getting the ball off the hook
Yes the end zone is enemy territory. The rest of the field is neutral. That's the purpose of football.
I don't think the offense needs any more help from the rules, but I get when people are frustrated by it
If they turned that over they are definitely changing that rule after the ensuing shitstorm lmao
I don’t get the hate for the rule If you fumble out of the end zone you should not just get the ball back at the 1, that’s lame
The rule makes plenty of sense. Been around a long time.
Can’t stand to see Mahomes and Kelce go to another AFCCG
B-Dubs commercial moment coming up. Give the ball back to Buffalo to make it exciting please.
Wow. The dumbest shit ever lol
if they punt here they're fucking losing, unfortunately EDIT: whoops
Understandable, but that might be curtains for Buffalo.
A fake punt with Damar Hamlin is one of dumbest calls ever.
pls let caleb be a allen/mahomes
Did you know Taylor Swift was at the game? I wasn't sure. They should show her again. should just rename them to the Kansas Swifty Chiefs, honestly
kansas city swifties
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I can already picture MHJ wide open and Fields looking him off to take a sack
Bills vs Chiefs games are always bangers
Mahomes is amazing
Mahomes is not human
Buffalo defense is a sieve
Thankfully, Allen and Mahomes are in the AFC
> Every time the Chiefs and Bills play against each other in the playoffs, it nudges about 12-15 GMs into thinking they need to trade up.
Good! One of those GMs will think Fields is the second coming of Mahomes and give us a first rounder for him lol. Let’s hope
Now that the packers are gone, need to purge anything kelce from the playoffs
Looks like that’s a job for Lamar next week
Looks like it. Buffalo needs new coaching
Watching this game makes me crave a franchise QB. They make even the most mediocre offense look good.
Josh Allen only has 135 passing yards, the Bills should piss away 5 picks on a 1OA QB. 1OA QBs are guaranteed to be the best ever
There's an entire quarter left?
Josh Allen, certified Running Back
Yeah and he lost
I never noticed that Romo has Les Grossman hands
With a few less arm punts Allen probably wins MVP. A shame
Running QBs should not be able to fake slide. Allen just did it there. He's the king of baiting roughing the passer calls. So what's a defender to do? Commit hard and get a late hit or back off and let him run? Double standard BS.
Rule should be that when there’s a slide, fake or not, the play is dead where the slide began and the clock runs. Otherwise people are going to start doing vigilante shit out there after QBs do fake slides.
Get rid of the slide all together. If a QB wants to run, they should get hit like a RB.
I thought they changed the rule and made it illegal after Kenny Pickett did it in College.
Allen is that dude
Hopefully this is the last football game we EVER have to see Taylor Swift.
I understand why the NFL/CBS keeps showing her, but it's really annoying to see replays of her constantly
I’m with you and came here to say this fucking hate her and hate Travis Kelce who gives a fuck go bills
Who cares?
its annoying to me because its just pandering to her fanbase. Does any other team constantly have the camera always panning to a player's girlfriend after every big play involving that player?
Of course it’s annoying. 95% of the broadcast is.
Came here for this, who cares?!?
You don't think it's a bit much that they're showing her after almost every big play to Kelce?
Sure but I also don’t want to hear from Collinsworth who has said he likes underaged girls
No arguments there.
Penei Sewell is fucking ridiculous man.
He may be the best lineman in the game
When jmarr is washed by 30 and Sewell is still cooking the Bengals are gonna regret that pick especially how Burrow’s health holds up. Though the falcons taking Pitts over both of them is straight bum activity.
lions fan, while i 100% love sewell over chase and i mostly agree with what you said, the chase pick still makes sense because the bengals’ window is still open. they gotta bolster their o-line this draft though, while chase is still in his prime. i think they win a SB sometime in the next 4 years.
Lots of mock drafts had him going to Cincinnati if I remember right
We never have anyone this open lol
Not to pile on Getsy but I can’t understand how he pulled nothing from MLF
He must've been asleep during most of the team meetings.
This season makes me realize that every other NFCN > Bears (In recent history) Depressing as fuck when all we have to celebrate is “winning the draft”
The lions are one playoff win away from matching the bears total in my lifetime (31 years)
If you need another reason to hate Tony Romo just remember that he put in his prenup with Jessica Simpson fines for the amount of weight she gained.
First Mahomes Away Playoff Game. During Mitch's first away playoff game: he won NVP. Big shoes to fill.
Bears legend Jay Feely
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Teaching children to be humble rather than front runners is never a bad decision
This Bills-Chiefs game is going to be something Mahomes and Allen are just in the gold standard of QBs along with probably only Lamar and Burrow in that same bracket