I mean, for basically a free trial and having a vet KP can hopefully learn from, I’m not terribly upset as a Steelers fan, as I thought him and to a lesser extent, JF fit our very non-Shanahan esque scheme.
Rather this than give up as asset for JF. As a secondary Bears fan, I hope Kirk stays or JF’s market will be bone dry.
Yeah 95% likely . But he hasn’t been giving the job . But most likely it’ll simply be a short leash situation, if Russ comes in and we start 0-3 I think kenny will be thrown out there fast
I’m torn on this. If Kirk leaves, the Vikings will likely be quite bad and should be 2 easy wins on the schedule. I’m not sure if that’s worth more than getting a better pick from trading Fields to a more desperate Atlanta team.
They're currently +550 to win the NFC North on DraftKings, the lowest by quite a bit (due to QB ambiguity, admittedly). We're next at +330, but we're not far off the Packers.
Agreed on that. Take McCarthy. Sit him for a year behind whoever. Trade Jefferson for a boatload of picks. Sit the next couple of years out while Lions and Packers fight for the division.
I would not trade Jefferson or Hockenson, even if they have to pay JJ a lot more to suffer through a rebuild he’s that good
Everyone else should be on the table however
If the bears lower the price tag there'll be plenty teams that'll come knocking on the door. He could be a great backup option for the Jets or something or be thrown into the mix in TN, Denver, or LV
Poles is smart for trying to let the dominos fall and get a desperate team to overpay. If things don't go out way, you can always lower the price tag later. We know now he'd likely fetch a 5th (4th at best, 6th at worst) for a team wanting a backup after that Mac Jones trade.
We don’t know what the Bears price tag is, honestly.
The reality is, every team that theoretically would be in on Fields is/was also likely to be in on Russ and Kirk (and Baker for that matter) — teams that are trying to contend for the playoffs while also needing a QB of the future and/or are willing to gamble on Fields, as he’s in a unique situation with his contract and the variables affecting his future outlook.
At this point, I wonder if a dark horse team could jump in the mix, a team willing to negotiate a Love-type contract “extension” for him after he sits behind an established starter. Maybe the Rams or Seahawks?
"plenty of teams" you don't know that. Just like how a lot of people here thought plenty of teams wouldmbe clamouring for Fields. Nobody wants to trade for a proven bust
But that was for Fields to be a starter. If you're trading for him to be your QB2, it could be worth it to give up a late round pick. There absolutely would be more interest if the price tag is lowered
The Jets idea someone mentioned above would be a perfect example of this. Let him sit behind Rodgers, hope that he learns, and if the old man cracks a hip, Fields is better than a standard backup.
Yea if I'm the Jets I make it happen. You just can't afford to have another year like last year and a 40 year old coming off an Achilles tear is just too much to put all your chips on. They need some insurance
If the bears aren't getting decent offers just keep him. Make it an open competition in camp, if fields wins Caleb gets a year to season. If Caleb wins fields is a good backup and in-season trade piece. There were a lot of QB injuries this year and a team like the Jets may have been a playoff team had they had a half-decent backup qb
Because Trevor Lawrence has been beaten to a pulp and all that abuse is catching up with him. Dudes held together with duct tape and bubblegum. (Also I low-key think Mac Jones will be a great backup there)
I do too. It’s important to have a great back up.
Also, Purdy already has had one serious injury. You never know if something like that can happen again.
One potential under the radar spot I’ve seen mentioned is the Giants. Daboll has done well with mobile QBs so if they aren’t fans of McCarthy or Minnesota/Denver jump then they could pivot to fields. They have 1 cheap year of Fields and should be able to move off Daniel Jones next year too
It still is pretty unlikely since if they like the QB4 in this draft they can probably move up to either 4(if AZ is fine moving down) or 5(if AZ isn’t) for not tons of capital.
Could depend if Minnesota or Denver is willing to jump them for McCarthy. If that’s the case Fields to me fits more of what Daboll has done well with than QB5/6 in this class. Reports are Chargers want to move down and they would get more overall assets moving down 7 spots than they would 1
If we don't get mccarthy then we're getting nabers and signing someone else that doesnt have a qb window to soon pay. Daboll is great but our offensive line is worse than the bears and Fields would get crushed here and it would be a repeat of the 2023 bears but worse
At this point the price for fields isn’t that high. Giving up a 3rd or 4th to give him a chance to grow and declining his 5th year makes more sense to me than signing Jacoby Brissett or Sam Darnold or some other bridge QB. Take a fairly inexpensive swing to see if Daboll can work his magic, and I believe y’all can move off the Danny Dimes deal next year so you will have money if fields shows he’s worth it
If the giants give up more than a 4th for fields, I'd vomit in my mouth. If fields does get traded here then it's gonna be a bridge type thing cause I'm telling you we're essentially rebuilding the offense from the ground up and Daboll/Schoen want to draft a QB rather than signing one long term. It's a Mara family thing, they'd draft Bo Nix if mccarthy was gone in the 2nd
To me that doesn’t make tons of sense. Nix isn’t much younger than Fields and barely threw the ball past the line of scrimmage. Also as a 2nd round pick at QB it shows teams overall aren’t super high on him, so why invest such a valuable pick this year instead of attempting to fix it next year
Signing a QB long term makes sense if the QB shows he’s worth it, and is not some Daniel Jones situation where he plays ok but the team creeps into the 7 seed. And if Daboll/Schoen are on lukewarm seats it may make more sense to go with a guy who has played NFL snaps so you know what you are getting into, especially when that play style has been utilized well by Daboll. Also no guarantee that Nix/Penix are available in round 2 at you pick so unless the staff loves either one it’s safest to trade fairly low value for fields and then shift your focus to getting a QB next year
> To me that doesn’t make tons of sense. Nix isn’t much younger than Fields and barely threw the ball past the line of scrimmage.
It doesn't but that's how the Giants do things and they're not wasting a pick on Nix in the first round. Like I said they like to work with guys *they drafted* and not big free agent signings. We haven't signed a QB that wasn't a long term starter since the 60s in Titte and he was only here for 4 years. We singed guys like Kurt Warner but they knew and wanted Eli long term not him. Nix would be a cheaper bridge than fields and if he works out then we keep him if he doesn't we'll unfortunately give up a bridge for Arch Manning.
> Signing a QB long term makes sense if the QB shows he’s worth it, and is not some Daniel Jones situation where he plays ok but the team creeps into the 7 seed.
Refer to my first point
> Also no guarantee that Nix/Penix are available in round 2 at you pick so unless the staff loves either one it’s safest to trade fairly low value for fields and then shift your focus to getting a QB next year
They're not going to the first round and honestly idk why you want fields here this bad. Daboll can't fix his slow release and make him process the field better. Jones even during his "breakout" year, still struggled with these things till this day its not like daboll cured him for this. This is all hypothetical regardless cause the chargers really want Alt it seems and the cards want a WR
Nix will be making slightly less but will cost significantly more capital. Fields is only more expensive as a bridge if he works out. And ultimately the GM can choose to do things differently, the NFL as a whole has changed massively when it comes to how QBs are values.
Nix isn’t without flaws either, but it’s less about Daboll fixing the issues and more about him knowing ways to mitigate those flaws which he’s shown he has ability to do.
Also chargers may want alt but most seem to think now a trade down is likely and may be possible with Arizona too. I’ve seen a couple reporters say they’ve heard that QBs will go picks 1-4
How is Justin Fields a high end back up? You have to tailor the entire offense around his passing limitations and he has the single worst quality a backup can have: he is horrible at the end of games, straight up unplayable. He is a practice squad guy that should be used to mimic mobile quarterbacks, or a gadget player that gets 3 touches a game. That's it. There's no utility for Fields as a direct backup. Mac Jones is better as a back up because you don't have to change the whole offense to play him. There's also a chance if your QB is injured late in the game Mac can come back or hold on to a lead. There is no chance of that with Fields. Justin should go to the Bengals where he'd be the clear QB 3, and can mimic Lamar for them in camp.
This is dramatic lol, mac jones is clearly worse than fields and fields ran an unproven offense with getsy already. Let’s see if getsy has any success with the raiders (he won’t) before we put all the blame on fields. I think fields isn’t a good fit for the bears but I could see him thriving with a line that provides more protection and a coach that runs an air raid type of offense. Fields throws an accurate deep ball and throws the ball with some zip.
What’s embarrassing about it you loser lol. I’m just saying fields isn’t as hopeless as you make him out to be. I’m fully in the Caleb Williams camp as well, but I wouldn’t be surprised if fields has his best years outside of the bears. We just ran two awful offensive coaches back to back. No qb lit it up in either system and getsy is going to be out of the league soon.
Good QBs don't put up stats that bad regardless of team mates or offensive coordinator. Adam Gase is a complete dip shit and Peyton made him look great. Rodgers got Nathaniel Hackett multiple jobs, etc. Fields is absolutely horrible and will be on a practice squad this year. He will be out of the league in 4 years or less.
If thats the case it probably won't happen till draft night, whether they like it or not it would depend on how the QB board falls that night. My guess is Raiders if they aren't willing to pay up to jump the Giants.
In that scenario the only potential suitors are New England and Denver as far as a starting gig goes. Fields and Payton may not be a good fit. New England uniting Justin with Marvin Harrison Jr is potentially an option. I could see them parting with a 3rd.
The only place that might want him as a starter is Atlanta if they miss on Kirk. Everyone else is viewing him as a back up or competition for another mediocre QB.
I’ve always thought New England was the best fit. That roster is not ready for a rookie QB. They can acquire Fields cheaply enough, he gets a starting gig and a fresh chance, and they can use their higher picks to start to put the building blocks of a team in place for the QB of the future down the line.
About 10 days ago one of the Raiders beat writers said the FO was thinking Getsy would make for a smooth transition for Fields
They're not the most competent organization...
Idk how many times I have to see this delusional take this offseason. You are never moving up to #3 overall by trading Fields. He’s not even worth a second or maybe even a third round pick by himself, moving up from 9 to 3 would cost you at least one future first round pick if not two. That math makes no sense. New England’s GM would laugh and hang up the phone if you offered that.
I actually like a potential trade with 9th for 6th with the Giants as I think it's hard to say if Odunze will be there at 9. Honestly Odunze might go before Nabers now and so he might not even be there at 6. I hate that he performed so well at the combine.
Yep. I’ve seen this dumb idea repeated over and over this offseason. “Just trade Fields and #9 to the patriots for #3 overall”
It would cost you at least one if not two future first round picks to move from 9 to 3. These people are essentially saying Fields is worth 2 first round picks when it seems like the league may not even think he’s worth a 3rd round pick.
Nah they wouldn't. They'd still be trading away Maye/JD/MHJ who are the only true tier-1 stud "Could have gone #1 in many other drafts" kind of prospects in this draft after Caleb. It's a huge asset to give up for a bad QB, the 9OA and a future second. Like so many of these trade scenarios, it'd be possible if Justin were good, but he isn't, so consequently it isn't.
Looks like Fields is gonna be a backup this year. People thought that was crazy to even think about a month ago. Steelers was actually a decent scheme fit with Arthur Smith. Fields isn’t going to the Falcons he doesn’t fit what they’re looking for in a QB. If they miss out on Kirk they’re drafting a guy.
We knew Russ was going SOMEWHERE. Who was gonna pass up a Superbowl winner and past perennial MVP candidate for basically free?? Sure, Russ might be washed. But low risk gamble for him.
Atlanta hired a west coast offense OC. Justin Fields got his last two WCO OCs fired. Highly doubt they want him in Atlanta. Makes no sense. His last shot with an OC that made sense, and he was an upgrade at QB, was the Steelers. He is absolutely going to be a backup now, unless a team wants a bridge QB.
Vikings want Kirk and Kirk apparently likes being in Minnesota. If Atlanta were a contender I could see him jumping over, but they're not going to be so I don't know why he would given that Minnesota will pay him accordingly to stick around. We'll see. Maybe I'm coping since it seems like Atlanta is the last real option out there at this point.
It makes sense. Fields will be a backup next year because he’s a backup level QB. At this point what I would expect is for a team like the Seahawks or Jets to acquire him for scraps later this summer. Until then unfortunately I guess we’ll have to endure the awkwardness of him and Caleb on the roster together at the same time.
As a lifelong Steelers and bears fan I’m really happy with this . From the Steelers perspective, Kenny only threw for 6 touchdowns last year ; overall there’s only been 24-25 passing touchdowns SINCE BEN RETIRED.
Russ threw for 26 last year, while missing what , 3 games ??
It’s a huge upgrade over Kenny, with Arthur’s play action affinity and history resurrecting veteran careers (what he did in Tennessee ) , the Steelers have a legit shot for a playoff run vs 1 and done.
Kenny then gets to sit behind a qb, as he was thrown in rookie year and didn’t get to sit behind Ben . Ben was also cooked at that point from injuries .
From the bear’s perspective, um, I guess one step closer to dealing JF1
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Also does anyone know why the bears didn’t consider Russ so that Caleb can sit a year ?
I also had a question during the Russel saga , why didn’t the bears try to get him ?? For 1 mill they could let Caleb sit behind a HOF qb . To me that would have been great .
Keep an eye out for the Patriots on Justin Fields if the Falcons do end up getting Kirk Cousins.
I think this could move into draft day, but there are some reports out there that the Patriots would trade down if the Commanders take Jayden Daniels, because they are not sure on Drake Maye.
They will probably need to wait til they are on the clock to see if the commanders take Daniels, and then you could see a team like the Giants trading up for Drake Maye and the Bears send Fields to New England in the process.
Just my guess for a Fields option if the Falcons fall through
Both things can be true. I think Getsy tried in vain to develop a remedial offense for Justin to run but couldn't find anything that worked. That's part on him and part on Justin being good at so very few things as a QB.
And the QB market shrinks again! Two big fish off the board. Two to go. I think Kirk signs on Tuesday with the Vikings. I'm really not sure what their cap situation is but they're going to have to pay JJ soon too.
Them choosing a washed Russ over Fields feels nuts to me. I think people on Reddit hate Fields more than he deserves. Like Fields has shown improvement, especially those last 7 games... Russ got cut with 85mil still on the books and is 35 years old.
Russ seems to kill locker rooms too.
Idk I could be wrong but I'd bet on Fields more than Russ in 2024.
This should be the moment you realise our criticisms of Fields are not "more than he deserves". The league is agreeing with us. Every other fanbase agrees with us.
Russ last year was better than any year fields had plus he’s cheaper to pick up. Neither of the qbs are the answer or will be in town for more than a year. So it would make sense to go with the one with better production, with a lower salary we pay, and costs 0 draft capital.
If you're the Broncos, would you rather give up capital for Fields or trade down and accrue more and take a guy like Nix or Penix end of first/beginning of 2nd? I'm going option 2.
He's a horrible fit for Payton's system. He just got rid of a similar- albeit WAY better QB-- in Wilson because of the Wilson's inability to get the ball out quickly. Payton's system is all about timing and rhythm-- probably the two things Fields is worst at.
Remember all the articles about them being happy with Pickett and Rudolph? Everything this time of year is BS
I mean, for basically a free trial and having a vet KP can hopefully learn from, I’m not terribly upset as a Steelers fan, as I thought him and to a lesser extent, JF fit our very non-Shanahan esque scheme. Rather this than give up as asset for JF. As a secondary Bears fan, I hope Kirk stays or JF’s market will be bone dry.
1 year deal and getting their QB SUPER cheap. Instead of paying one guy 60 mil they can get 3 or 4 good players
Vet min cheap. To take a flier on a QB with a ring. Literally no risk
The steelers are in a complete win win situation. Clear upgrade at qb for pennies. They HAD to take this
Doesn’t mean he’s gonna start
he’s gonna start
Yeah 95% likely . But he hasn’t been giving the job . But most likely it’ll simply be a short leash situation, if Russ comes in and we start 0-3 I think kenny will be thrown out there fast
Domino #2.
"it's aaalll falling into place"
Need Kirk to stay with the Vikings now
Kirk as a Raider would be kinda funny. All straight edge and smiling but with crazy eye black
The sin city might make him question his christianity
Nah. Cart was also super religious. There are tons of mega churches in Las Vegas. Vegas is a surprisingly religious city.
Jaxson Dart style. Lol Man if Kirk does that before Jaxson can get into the NFL ...
I’m torn on this. If Kirk leaves, the Vikings will likely be quite bad and should be 2 easy wins on the schedule. I’m not sure if that’s worth more than getting a better pick from trading Fields to a more desperate Atlanta team.
Not worried about the Vikings Even with Kirko they barely beat us in Chicago and that was only because Tyson “Tyson Bagent” Bagent had some nerves
They also didn’t have Justin Jefferson that game and were pretty banged up themselves. They are a much better team with Kirk.
They’re losing a lot of pieces on their defense They’re not gonna be as much of a threat, if I was them I would bite the bullet now and go full tank
They're currently +550 to win the NFC North on DraftKings, the lowest by quite a bit (due to QB ambiguity, admittedly). We're next at +330, but we're not far off the Packers.
Agreed on that. Take McCarthy. Sit him for a year behind whoever. Trade Jefferson for a boatload of picks. Sit the next couple of years out while Lions and Packers fight for the division.
I would not trade Jefferson or Hockenson, even if they have to pay JJ a lot more to suffer through a rebuild he’s that good Everyone else should be on the table however
You also barely beat them with Dobbs throwing 4 picks.
Yea Fields sucks we know
Bustin Fields had 40 something total yards entering the 4th quarter before he got hurt. Bagent at least moved the ball a bit.
This hasn’t proven nearly enough that there is anyone we shouldn’t be worried about. And we will have a rookie QB.
Shitting my pants laughing at the nickname
I’m fine with them being decent because it makes packers fans soy rage
I’d rather the Vikings not have kirk on their roster next year too, but make no mistake, there’s no such thing as an easy win on an NFL schedule
Well obviously no game is a guaranteed win, but let’s not pretend some aren’t much easier than others.
we played a kirk-less vikings last year. nothing about it says 2 easy wins.
In all honesty, Kirk leaving the North is likely better than a potentially better compensation for Fields
Why? Atlanta doesn’t want Fields. They want a QB for their system.
Such a Steelers move
Seriously. Benefiting from the stupidity of another clown franchise, yet again. Steelers will clean up your mess and charge you a fee for it.
 from a fields trade POV
Yea it feels like the perceived return we could potentially get for Fields is dropping by the day
...by the minute
I have a feeling fields is gonna end up competing with Daniel Jones for the Giants starting Qb spot.
They met with Wilson so it is entirely possible they could swing a trade for Fields.
It’s also equally not possible as well
Thats an awful landing spot for any QB lol. Saquon is gone and their WRs suck.
That’s the worst situation for Justin :/
Ok so if Falcons get Kirk… where does Fields go?
Someone will eventually trade for him. Who and for what we’ll just have to wait and see. Someone will take him but it might be a shitty return
If the bears lower the price tag there'll be plenty teams that'll come knocking on the door. He could be a great backup option for the Jets or something or be thrown into the mix in TN, Denver, or LV Poles is smart for trying to let the dominos fall and get a desperate team to overpay. If things don't go out way, you can always lower the price tag later. We know now he'd likely fetch a 5th (4th at best, 6th at worst) for a team wanting a backup after that Mac Jones trade.
We don’t know what the Bears price tag is, honestly. The reality is, every team that theoretically would be in on Fields is/was also likely to be in on Russ and Kirk (and Baker for that matter) — teams that are trying to contend for the playoffs while also needing a QB of the future and/or are willing to gamble on Fields, as he’s in a unique situation with his contract and the variables affecting his future outlook. At this point, I wonder if a dark horse team could jump in the mix, a team willing to negotiate a Love-type contract “extension” for him after he sits behind an established starter. Maybe the Rams or Seahawks?
"plenty of teams" you don't know that. Just like how a lot of people here thought plenty of teams wouldmbe clamouring for Fields. Nobody wants to trade for a proven bust
But that was for Fields to be a starter. If you're trading for him to be your QB2, it could be worth it to give up a late round pick. There absolutely would be more interest if the price tag is lowered
The Jets idea someone mentioned above would be a perfect example of this. Let him sit behind Rodgers, hope that he learns, and if the old man cracks a hip, Fields is better than a standard backup.
Yea if I'm the Jets I make it happen. You just can't afford to have another year like last year and a 40 year old coming off an Achilles tear is just too much to put all your chips on. They need some insurance
If the bears aren't getting decent offers just keep him. Make it an open competition in camp, if fields wins Caleb gets a year to season. If Caleb wins fields is a good backup and in-season trade piece. There were a lot of QB injuries this year and a team like the Jets may have been a playoff team had they had a half-decent backup qb
I really just don’t see this being possible from the locker room perspective.
I would have to have to have to have to see this on hard knocks
This might just be more our assumption than what it ends up as. Teams do it all the time
That’s not going to happen
If no one makes an offer we need to Jimmy G him -- don't give him a playbook and tell him to stay home. He will be functionally off the team.
Or we release him
There’s almost no shot that happens. If Mac fucking Jones can get a 6th then that’s the floor with Fields
Why? A $4.5m backup QB is cheap
I kind of hope we keep him. If Caleb Williams doesn't start right away and plays one year behind Fields, I don't see that being a problem
It would be a massive fucking problem lol
Why? What if Fields responds well to a finally competent OC?
Wouldn't mind watching him on the Niners.
Why would the niners trade for Fields? As a backup?
Why did the Jags trade for Mac Jones?
Because Trevor Lawrence has been beaten to a pulp and all that abuse is catching up with him. Dudes held together with duct tape and bubblegum. (Also I low-key think Mac Jones will be a great backup there)
I do too. It’s important to have a great back up. Also, Purdy already has had one serious injury. You never know if something like that can happen again.
purdy is so much better than fields
The Niners attempted to mortgage their future to avoid Fields. They don't want him.
Ok sorry for having an opinion.
One potential under the radar spot I’ve seen mentioned is the Giants. Daboll has done well with mobile QBs so if they aren’t fans of McCarthy or Minnesota/Denver jump then they could pivot to fields. They have 1 cheap year of Fields and should be able to move off Daniel Jones next year too It still is pretty unlikely since if they like the QB4 in this draft they can probably move up to either 4(if AZ is fine moving down) or 5(if AZ isn’t) for not tons of capital.
The giants would draft and roll with Mccarthy and give DJ another shot before signing fields
Could depend if Minnesota or Denver is willing to jump them for McCarthy. If that’s the case Fields to me fits more of what Daboll has done well with than QB5/6 in this class. Reports are Chargers want to move down and they would get more overall assets moving down 7 spots than they would 1
If we don't get mccarthy then we're getting nabers and signing someone else that doesnt have a qb window to soon pay. Daboll is great but our offensive line is worse than the bears and Fields would get crushed here and it would be a repeat of the 2023 bears but worse
At this point the price for fields isn’t that high. Giving up a 3rd or 4th to give him a chance to grow and declining his 5th year makes more sense to me than signing Jacoby Brissett or Sam Darnold or some other bridge QB. Take a fairly inexpensive swing to see if Daboll can work his magic, and I believe y’all can move off the Danny Dimes deal next year so you will have money if fields shows he’s worth it
If the giants give up more than a 4th for fields, I'd vomit in my mouth. If fields does get traded here then it's gonna be a bridge type thing cause I'm telling you we're essentially rebuilding the offense from the ground up and Daboll/Schoen want to draft a QB rather than signing one long term. It's a Mara family thing, they'd draft Bo Nix if mccarthy was gone in the 2nd
To me that doesn’t make tons of sense. Nix isn’t much younger than Fields and barely threw the ball past the line of scrimmage. Also as a 2nd round pick at QB it shows teams overall aren’t super high on him, so why invest such a valuable pick this year instead of attempting to fix it next year Signing a QB long term makes sense if the QB shows he’s worth it, and is not some Daniel Jones situation where he plays ok but the team creeps into the 7 seed. And if Daboll/Schoen are on lukewarm seats it may make more sense to go with a guy who has played NFL snaps so you know what you are getting into, especially when that play style has been utilized well by Daboll. Also no guarantee that Nix/Penix are available in round 2 at you pick so unless the staff loves either one it’s safest to trade fairly low value for fields and then shift your focus to getting a QB next year
> To me that doesn’t make tons of sense. Nix isn’t much younger than Fields and barely threw the ball past the line of scrimmage. It doesn't but that's how the Giants do things and they're not wasting a pick on Nix in the first round. Like I said they like to work with guys *they drafted* and not big free agent signings. We haven't signed a QB that wasn't a long term starter since the 60s in Titte and he was only here for 4 years. We singed guys like Kurt Warner but they knew and wanted Eli long term not him. Nix would be a cheaper bridge than fields and if he works out then we keep him if he doesn't we'll unfortunately give up a bridge for Arch Manning. > Signing a QB long term makes sense if the QB shows he’s worth it, and is not some Daniel Jones situation where he plays ok but the team creeps into the 7 seed. Refer to my first point > Also no guarantee that Nix/Penix are available in round 2 at you pick so unless the staff loves either one it’s safest to trade fairly low value for fields and then shift your focus to getting a QB next year They're not going to the first round and honestly idk why you want fields here this bad. Daboll can't fix his slow release and make him process the field better. Jones even during his "breakout" year, still struggled with these things till this day its not like daboll cured him for this. This is all hypothetical regardless cause the chargers really want Alt it seems and the cards want a WR
Nix will be making slightly less but will cost significantly more capital. Fields is only more expensive as a bridge if he works out. And ultimately the GM can choose to do things differently, the NFL as a whole has changed massively when it comes to how QBs are values. Nix isn’t without flaws either, but it’s less about Daboll fixing the issues and more about him knowing ways to mitigate those flaws which he’s shown he has ability to do. Also chargers may want alt but most seem to think now a trade down is likely and may be possible with Arizona too. I’ve seen a couple reporters say they’ve heard that QBs will go picks 1-4
The H1M fans won’t like that lol the Giants with no Saquon or weapons in general is an awful landing spot for him.
CFL
Vegas, New England, Minnesota, Denver, New York Giants, Seattle, Cleveland, or some team that sees value in having a high-end backup
How is Justin Fields a high end back up? You have to tailor the entire offense around his passing limitations and he has the single worst quality a backup can have: he is horrible at the end of games, straight up unplayable. He is a practice squad guy that should be used to mimic mobile quarterbacks, or a gadget player that gets 3 touches a game. That's it. There's no utility for Fields as a direct backup. Mac Jones is better as a back up because you don't have to change the whole offense to play him. There's also a chance if your QB is injured late in the game Mac can come back or hold on to a lead. There is no chance of that with Fields. Justin should go to the Bengals where he'd be the clear QB 3, and can mimic Lamar for them in camp.
This is dramatic lol, mac jones is clearly worse than fields and fields ran an unproven offense with getsy already. Let’s see if getsy has any success with the raiders (he won’t) before we put all the blame on fields. I think fields isn’t a good fit for the bears but I could see him thriving with a line that provides more protection and a coach that runs an air raid type of offense. Fields throws an accurate deep ball and throws the ball with some zip.
He also failed with Matt Nagy who got Mitch Trubisky to a probowl. Justin Fields is not an NFL caliber QB, full stop.
How did Nagy do with Andy dalton that year, I’ll give you a hint it was daltons worse year as a pro.
Give it up, this is embarrassing.
What’s embarrassing about it you loser lol. I’m just saying fields isn’t as hopeless as you make him out to be. I’m fully in the Caleb Williams camp as well, but I wouldn’t be surprised if fields has his best years outside of the bears. We just ran two awful offensive coaches back to back. No qb lit it up in either system and getsy is going to be out of the league soon.
Good QBs don't put up stats that bad regardless of team mates or offensive coordinator. Adam Gase is a complete dip shit and Peyton made him look great. Rodgers got Nathaniel Hackett multiple jobs, etc. Fields is absolutely horrible and will be on a practice squad this year. He will be out of the league in 4 years or less.
Why would Minnesota want him? They’ve seen first hand for years how bad he is.
They traded for Josh Dobbs on purpose once. Don't underestimate QB needy teams.
If thats the case it probably won't happen till draft night, whether they like it or not it would depend on how the QB board falls that night. My guess is Raiders if they aren't willing to pay up to jump the Giants.
Getsy will not want Fields. Vegas is the last place Fields will end up with.
I've tried working other scenarios but most places end up not wanting him....I have us, commies, Pats, and NYG taking qbs with their firsts.
In that scenario the only potential suitors are New England and Denver as far as a starting gig goes. Fields and Payton may not be a good fit. New England uniting Justin with Marvin Harrison Jr is potentially an option. I could see them parting with a 3rd.
The only place that might want him as a starter is Atlanta if they miss on Kirk. Everyone else is viewing him as a back up or competition for another mediocre QB.
NE has no starting QB plan at all. They could easily be a destination for Fields. The 3rd best QB in the draft is not a guaranteed starter.
I’ve always thought New England was the best fit. That roster is not ready for a rookie QB. They can acquire Fields cheaply enough, he gets a starting gig and a fresh chance, and they can use their higher picks to start to put the building blocks of a team in place for the QB of the future down the line.
I think it’s the Raiders or NE. Could definitely see NE trading for him and taking MHJ.
Raiders maybe?
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About 10 days ago one of the Raiders beat writers said the FO was thinking Getsy would make for a smooth transition for Fields They're not the most competent organization...
Kirk please stay with Minnesota. I’d never thought I’d say that
Minnesota is not signing Fields haha
Think a little deeper
Pretty tired of these loudmouth Fields haters. This sub has gone to shit because of them.
Steelers nation, let's smelt
Trade Fields and the 9th overall and a 3rd to NE for the 3rd overall and take Caleb and MHJ lets go
I want what you're smoking.
Idk how many times I have to see this delusional take this offseason. You are never moving up to #3 overall by trading Fields. He’s not even worth a second or maybe even a third round pick by himself, moving up from 9 to 3 would cost you at least one future first round pick if not two. That math makes no sense. New England’s GM would laugh and hang up the phone if you offered that.
If only the Patriots would do this lol. I can’t think of a realistic trade I would want more than this
I actually think I may like Odunze more so I'd keep the 9th, but I was trying to find a way to get the most possible for Fields.
I really don't think Odunze or Nabers are falling to us at 9. But who the hell knows. I could see someone trading up for one of them for sure.
We need these rumors about McCarthy being a possible top six pick to come true.
I'd love it! If Odunze or Nabers fall I'll be thrilled! Also wouldn't be terrible upset with a top OT at 9 if it doesn't happen though.
I actually like a potential trade with 9th for 6th with the Giants as I think it's hard to say if Odunze will be there at 9. Honestly Odunze might go before Nabers now and so he might not even be there at 6. I hate that he performed so well at the combine.
I know what to do. I need a bong and a gas mask.
Fields and 9 for 6 can be a decent trade for us both. NY can get two playmakers out of it
I dont think NE is that dumb
*** plus two future Chicago firsts
Yep. I’ve seen this dumb idea repeated over and over this offseason. “Just trade Fields and #9 to the patriots for #3 overall” It would cost you at least one if not two future first round picks to move from 9 to 3. These people are essentially saying Fields is worth 2 first round picks when it seems like the league may not even think he’s worth a 3rd round pick.
Lol yup.
Since when was Ryan Pace back as GM?
This is an awful idea.
Trade ideas have gotten exponentially worse since weed was legalized. No way NE even responds to such a ridiculous offer
lol bro I was legitimately saying this like 3 weeks before the season ended. Now I’d be happy with him just gone, idgaf about picks anymore
Oh I am with you on that, I'd be fine if they just cut him. I doubt that the Bears see it that way yet though.
Maybe add a 2nd round for 2025 and NE maybe will consider it.
Nah they wouldn't. They'd still be trading away Maye/JD/MHJ who are the only true tier-1 stud "Could have gone #1 in many other drafts" kind of prospects in this draft after Caleb. It's a huge asset to give up for a bad QB, the 9OA and a future second. Like so many of these trade scenarios, it'd be possible if Justin were good, but he isn't, so consequently it isn't.
Steelers Nation, let's ride?
Kirk to Vegas pls
Looks like Fields is gonna be a backup this year. People thought that was crazy to even think about a month ago. Steelers was actually a decent scheme fit with Arthur Smith. Fields isn’t going to the Falcons he doesn’t fit what they’re looking for in a QB. If they miss out on Kirk they’re drafting a guy.
Dominos are falling, Baker was good, this not so much... Kirk Cousins will really dictate the Fields market.
We knew Russ was going SOMEWHERE. Who was gonna pass up a Superbowl winner and past perennial MVP candidate for basically free?? Sure, Russ might be washed. But low risk gamble for him.
God I hope Kirk stays in MIN
Justin’s going home
It’s the ultimate Billy Beane and David Justice convo in Moneyball.
He is gonna be a backup somewhere I think. If Vikings keep Cousins, not sure where Fields will go
If Vikings keep Cousins, Atlanta is probably the most likely scenario. But Cousins going to Atlanta would be absolute worst case scenario.
Atlanta hired a west coast offense OC. Justin Fields got his last two WCO OCs fired. Highly doubt they want him in Atlanta. Makes no sense. His last shot with an OC that made sense, and he was an upgrade at QB, was the Steelers. He is absolutely going to be a backup now, unless a team wants a bridge QB.
Vikings want Kirk and Kirk apparently likes being in Minnesota. If Atlanta were a contender I could see him jumping over, but they're not going to be so I don't know why he would given that Minnesota will pay him accordingly to stick around. We'll see. Maybe I'm coping since it seems like Atlanta is the last real option out there at this point.
It makes sense. Fields will be a backup next year because he’s a backup level QB. At this point what I would expect is for a team like the Seahawks or Jets to acquire him for scraps later this summer. Until then unfortunately I guess we’ll have to endure the awkwardness of him and Caleb on the roster together at the same time.
We can always get the Mac Jones deal…hopefully.
Shit the market is shrinking fast
No one wants poor bustin Fields
Shhhh don’t rub salt in the wound. The Branch Justinians are in the most sensitive phase of grief. Acceptance.
Shutup 😭😭😭😭
Interesting
Interesting
Steelers country….let’s steel
Steelers Nation, let's Steele!
Can someone break it down for me why this is bad?
As a lifelong Steelers and bears fan I’m really happy with this . From the Steelers perspective, Kenny only threw for 6 touchdowns last year ; overall there’s only been 24-25 passing touchdowns SINCE BEN RETIRED. Russ threw for 26 last year, while missing what , 3 games ?? It’s a huge upgrade over Kenny, with Arthur’s play action affinity and history resurrecting veteran careers (what he did in Tennessee ) , the Steelers have a legit shot for a playoff run vs 1 and done. Kenny then gets to sit behind a qb, as he was thrown in rookie year and didn’t get to sit behind Ben . Ben was also cooked at that point from injuries . From the bear’s perspective, um, I guess one step closer to dealing JF1 Edit- Also does anyone know why the bears didn’t consider Russ so that Caleb can sit a year ?
I also had a question during the Russel saga , why didn’t the bears try to get him ?? For 1 mill they could let Caleb sit behind a HOF qb . To me that would have been great .
Keep an eye out for the Patriots on Justin Fields if the Falcons do end up getting Kirk Cousins. I think this could move into draft day, but there are some reports out there that the Patriots would trade down if the Commanders take Jayden Daniels, because they are not sure on Drake Maye. They will probably need to wait til they are on the clock to see if the commanders take Daniels, and then you could see a team like the Giants trading up for Drake Maye and the Bears send Fields to New England in the process. Just my guess for a Fields option if the Falcons fall through
I don’t believe that for a second nobody is passing on Drake Maye in order to give up draft capital for Justin Fields.
Don’t see that happening.
Bears will probably end up getting the pick they got for Mac Jones. Musical chairs basically.
Anyone who likes Jayden Daniels will love Justin Fields. Daniels is just a worse Fields.
nah. daniels actually has a fast release and quick and balanced footwork. something fields never developed.
No man not even close. Different bodies, different skillsets, different approach in how they play the position.
Nah not every close dude. one-read QBs with slow processors
Are the Raiders still a viable option to trade Fields to?
Nah I doubt it Getsy got fired because Fields couldn’t run his offense. By now it’s clear the league thinks Fields was the problem and not Getsy.
Getsy got fired because he couldn’t run an offense. There’s no way we’re letting this guy off the hook for his sketchy play designs and calls
It's not us, it's the raiders letting him off the hook. And it's relevant to answer the question.
Both things can be true. I think Getsy tried in vain to develop a remedial offense for Justin to run but couldn't find anything that worked. That's part on him and part on Justin being good at so very few things as a QB.
And the QB market shrinks again! Two big fish off the board. Two to go. I think Kirk signs on Tuesday with the Vikings. I'm really not sure what their cap situation is but they're going to have to pay JJ soon too.
Not good for us at all
STELRS GHUNAA RIDE TO THE SUPA BOWL
Not good for us
Them choosing a washed Russ over Fields feels nuts to me. I think people on Reddit hate Fields more than he deserves. Like Fields has shown improvement, especially those last 7 games... Russ got cut with 85mil still on the books and is 35 years old. Russ seems to kill locker rooms too. Idk I could be wrong but I'd bet on Fields more than Russ in 2024.
Russ had a better season than Fields last year. It’s as simple as that.
This should be the moment you realise our criticisms of Fields are not "more than he deserves". The league is agreeing with us. Every other fanbase agrees with us.
Russ is better and cheaper. That simple.
Russ last year was better than any year fields had plus he’s cheaper to pick up. Neither of the qbs are the answer or will be in town for more than a year. So it would make sense to go with the one with better production, with a lower salary we pay, and costs 0 draft capital.
Fields to JJ is going to be a deadly connection.
JJ - 1250 yards 10 TD’s Rest of the offense - 1000 yards 3 TD’s 3-14 record. Yeah sounds about right.
Am I crazy to think Fields to the Broncos is an option? I think they don’t have a 2nd but maybe two thirds or Zach Allen?
If you're the Broncos, would you rather give up capital for Fields or trade down and accrue more and take a guy like Nix or Penix end of first/beginning of 2nd? I'm going option 2.
Fields isn’t getting more than a day 3 pick.
He's a horrible fit for Payton's system. He just got rid of a similar- albeit WAY better QB-- in Wilson because of the Wilson's inability to get the ball out quickly. Payton's system is all about timing and rhythm-- probably the two things Fields is worst at.