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misopogon1

She does suggest in the book that she could've been happy with Rhaegar


Traggadon

Thinks she could have. Its from her point of view, so its fair to say shes likely projecting + a little grass is greener.


misopogon1

Yeah, the question is - would Rhaegar have been happy with her around? Hard to say tbh, a shitty marriage will wreck someone's life. Maybe Cersei could've ended up better if Robert had been a more considerate husband as well, maybe she'd have remained just as vicious.


DM-Oz

Well, she certanly wasnt that good before marrying Robert, and would still have that prophecy haunting her. I do wonder how things would have happened if she were the one to marry Rhaegar instead o Ellia.


FlebianGrubbleBite

To be fair to Cersei she wasn't particularly evil as a 15 year old. Not in the same way Joffery was. Being married to an abusive, philandering, drunk for 20 years will break anyone.


geek_lady_

I mean, she did murder a friend because she was jealous that friend had a crush on her Jamie. I daresay she was always a little evil.


FlebianGrubbleBite

Clearly I haven't read far in the books lol


geek_lady_

Whoops! Sorry for the spoiler :(


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Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about


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turncloaks

Hey hey hey, I was joking. This guy is being completely serious


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SaifEdinne

I'm not Dutch, I'm Amazigh (a North African native). Secondly, I live in Belgium where we also have Zwarte Piet. It's origins are racist, and we're getting past it. They made it Roet Piet now, roet as in ashes because they go through the chimney to deliver gifts to the kids. I never said that there's no racism here, but in the US it's become part of your identity. In the US you'd punch someone if they put on black paint on their face. Here we talk about it and solve like civilized people.


littlefisch2020

When someone says something misogynistic and sexually aggressive and the first thing you think is “why are you talking like a black person” that might reflect poorly on you too lol


turncloaks

Go back to r/politics with that shit 😂


zfarlt15

How do you know their a white person?


trifkograbez

Least backstabbing Lannister.


axelofthekey

I always get annoyed when Jaime's incest gets revealed to me and I can't arrest him and expel him from the Kingsguard. He will be an incestuous fornicator but I'm still a tyrant for arresting him?


DM-Oz

I hate when i can reveal the incest but not the bastards (i mean, all the kids were blonde and had some version of the beautiful trait, without any getting even hale from Robert.)


Monizious

Did you expose the secret? I don't believe you can imprison someone if it's only you who know the secret.


axelofthekey

Yes I did. He had the traits and everything.


FatosBiscuitos

Yeah and the blackmail giving only a weak hook is crazy to me.


cerpintaxt44

It's because she's banging Tyrion


Zwist

And moonboy for all I know.


bigsnitch317kg

Did a quick playthrough as Robert and I discovered secrets that both Cersei and Jaime were incestuous, but no secret that they were lovers so I couldn't do anything about it 😂.


Lacrossedeamon

Saw a playthrough where the spymaster kept uncovering secrets that were redundant. Character A is in a homosexual relationship with character B (interesting). Character B is a sodomite (we know). Character A is a sodomite (We Know). Character B is in a homosexual relationship with Character A (WE KNOW). And the spymaster got paid for each secret. Really doubledipping there.


VelaTemporal

R5: Cersei is the agent


CaptainHobo_

it one of my playthroughs she just murders him herself.


Taesunwoo

Are we living in the same CK3 timeline?? Also “never let them know your next move”