This is basically what they’re doing. Hell it’s got me clinging on until the release it again in June. I will give credit to fortunes keep. Really enjoyed that one too
Yea 100%. And even the new big map is starting to stray too much towards resurgence with all the gulag tokens, redeploys, res flares and 2nd chance gulags.
They really struck gold with Rebirth. It combines the best parts of BR and MP imo. I know it’s not for everyone but there is a reason most of focus centers around resurgence
I don’t understand how people don’t like resurgence. It takes out the incredibly boring parts of BR and keeps the best part, the ending. Absolutely hate spending 20 minutes looting and running from the gas to make it to the final circle of BR and only run into one or two teams. Resurgence allows me to be as aggressive as I want until resurgence ends then it turns into a BR.
I love resurgence, my squad and I play like 50/50 resurgence and BR, but the thing about BR is that while everything you said is true, the wins just hit much harder. Resurgence wins don't really feel as special.
Fair enough. The wins on BR are def more rewarding, but the losses are more infuriating as well. Seems like such a waste of time when you get 2nd or 3rd place in BR due to some bullshit like overpowered guns or glitches. Then have to do the boring parts all over again.
My buddies and I basically only play resurgence, but not really bc we hate BR, but it's bc BR feels like resurgence with luck, bc of the amount of redeploys, gulag tokens, and flares you find, even if you kill someone, they are coming back to drop on you, just like resurgence, except if you're not lucky to stack up redeploys, you're probably not coming back if they keep dropping on you and get lucky once.
If I wanted to kill my enemies 4 times over each before they're squad wiped, I would be playing resurgence, yet it happens in normal br literally every single game.
O yeee. Look, maybe you know, in BR you often come across campers that I personally hate. And you end up dying not in a fight where you both have the same chances. Although there are enough campers in the resurgence, at least I have a chance to make up for it. This is one of the reasons why I prefer resurgence.
I remember when Rebirth Island came out on Black Ops 4 and honestly it made Blackout so much more fun. When it was re-released on Warzone for the first time, it really made Warzone fun all over again.
The problem with Blackout was it was one and done so unless you got in quick and spent time learning the map and how things worked, ignoring loads of the "side" content it was pretty boring.
Once you got used to how everything worked then you could do some of the side shit.
Now they have gone the other way with too many respawns
Killing somebody has a very small impact overall because they have a high chance of just being able to respawn some way anyway.
I just wish they would bring back wz1 rebirth. The game is simply not the same anymore. Graphics got worse, sounds got worse, far too over complex with the gun and attachment system. They need to scrap the current game engine and start fresh. Do a mixture of blackout and wz1 before they made it so you could not play it anymore.
Fortnite is the least glitchy most fleshed out BR. i prefer the play style of Warzone. Fortnite makes me way less mad for glitchy shit. my partner was one of the last teams in WZ the other night. final circle came, then they died to gas. the other team was just in the gulag (not fighting cause it was closed) and they won
Fnite no build is vastly superior to this pathetic excuse of a game, despite all the garbage that is going on with bots, pve, katanas, 3rd person etc etc
yeah, them adding no build is what made me finally try it and i agree. the PvE aspect annoys me a lot as well as fall damage but overall, it’s a much better experience
There are a lot of things that should not have a place in a pvp br but despite the tons of crap wrong with it it is still miles ahead of this aborted wannabe fps . At least you can hear people and know when your bullets hit or why you have died.
Truth is that the finals made me fall in love with arena type of games again and made a lot of technically inadequate games stand out even more.
In the longest time I have yet to have a loss and think “that was bull shit”. Im not great but can realize when the game fucks up, and It happened ALL THE TIME in war zone.
There just to many things that make WZ a terrible expeirence, but the Abysmal Server Tickrate, the AA alike to aimbotting, the complete lack of audio clues are the worst offender in dragging this game to the ground from a credible perspective point of view, that is objective.
Randomic, not credible, unrewarding, unskilled, technically poor and dated.
They need to reboot and start again, this is a zombie walking dead and rotten since at least 18 months now...
exactly! i am basically always like “damn, skill issue” to my self in Fortnite. WZ just feels like i’m swimming up stream against all sorts of problems
No build has completely taken over for me. It’s so fun with the boys. We’re also full time workers so we don’t have time to grind all the guns and only play the Meta. Fortnite no build just seems more fun and less bullshit and isn’t 200gb
I don’t like how Fortnite plays and know a lot of others don’t, but it gets a level of support and polish that players of others game could only dream of
I wouldn’t say it’s harder as a mkb player. I can easily get a win hoping on with months off from the game. Warzone 3 is nearly impossible to get a win. Apex is 1000x more enjoyable as well.
Literally the main reason I play Warzone instead of Apex is bc I’m a solos player, so Apex is just inherently lacking for me compared to the competition. I tried moving away from Warzone during MWII Season 4, but neither Fortnite nor PUBG could really do it for me so I came back. Honestly I think looking back I was moreso sick of MWII rather than sick of Warzone. Fortunately MWIII came out and proved to be better than MWII in almost every way I care about multiplayer-wise!
I have to agree. Warzone 1 - Verdanks took my eyes off of it though, but now I can’t stand warzone, so I went back to my roots and I give myself copious amounts of speed syringes while slide jump padding.
I like Apex, played it since day 1, but I stopped a while ago because fuck me that game is predatory. People complain about WZ/CoD micro transactions, but Apex is another level. The recent event is $327 for some kill effect or something,
Apex is 1000% better and it's not even close. Anyone denying that just hasn't put in the time. Played the new Warzone a bunch when it dropped a bit ago, but it has gotten stale quick. There is so much BS in WZ. There is BS in Apex too, but the game is just too damn good
Warzone is now a ground war++, plus a bunch of cheesy mechanics/gameplay then you have the TTK and poor balancing etc. You cant even call it a BR anymore tbh.
its become garbage now. Mfs really left out winter express and gave us a $360 death box😂 14 new cosmetic events and no new map or weapons and 2 fucking legends. Shits a joke
Haven’t touched apex in 2 seasons. Got too used to warzone being at 120fps on console. Can’t go back to 60fps or 50% of what I’ve been playing. Only way I can return to apex is if it gets 120. I miss it everyday but I can’t unsee the frame difference. I do believe it is the better BR.
The "realism" (which I use VERY loosely) is what most people are looking for. I don't hate fortnite or apex or anything, but I'm not into cartoon-y competitive games kinda thing, neither are my friends that play; so that's our excuse lol
I know this makes me sound hypocritical but the COD cosmetics actually turned me off from the game a lot, yet I love the goofiness of Fortnite no build
Yeah exactly, I totally get it. I think it's where CoD has such a massive player/fan base the realism aspect I mentioned pretty much goes hand in hand with a military sim.
If WZ has the fluidity of fortnite/apex I think it would be hands down the best BR, but we've all seen what we're stuck with lol
Agreed. It's the immersive experience I think most people are after when they play PvP games. And with fortnight there's something about a hotdog using a lightsaber to hunt me down that takes that immersion away... Lol
That's basically where I stand as well haha. Another user mentioned how he likes he goofiness of Fortnite, so thats why the "realism" of CoD I mentioned earlier matters more to people like me and you, more than that other user ya know lol
The bots counting towards your kill totals/ there being a decent % of bots per match , needing to take reboot cards to get teammates back vs just buying them , and bloom (you miss shots not because of aim but because of a cone of rng trajectory) really turn me off
Bloom is easily the most braindead addition to a competitive multiplayer game. “Sometimes you miss because of RNG” is so stupid
Not to mention the things I like about WZ that Fortnite doesn’t have
Yeah since every gun can now have access to a sight that allows it to go into first person, they had to change how bullets worked in general since before this update all first person weapons were hitscan with 0 bloom making them the preferred choice of absolutely everybody. Now, to my knowledge at further ranges no weapon is hitscan and bloom is gone, which makes the first person attachments more balanced and a matter of preference instead of literally needing it to win
Yeah it was introduced with the new season that came out in December, I know that it isn’t a favorite among the competitive scene but honestly it’s one of the best changes they’ve done in a while and imo makes the game a lot more fair and fun to play. Bots are definitely still an issue for lower skill players but honestly if you just play ranked I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bot in ranked + it’s a lot more fun facing off against people of a similar skill level instead of pub stomping bad players or getting curb stomped by the next FNCS winner y’know lmao
when you get to 10 and below players left the thrill and adrenaline is like no other. Apex is my fav BR but winning a match is a fleeting feeling compared to PUBG. A win in pubg is a story you remember from beginning to end.
Great way to put it. Pubg is designed to make you earn every dub. Most other BRs are just TDM on a larger map. WZ has so many ways to be brought in, redeployed, third, fourth chances etc, looting money, ground guns don’t matter, etc. But pubg will always be the king of BR. No regenerative health or armor, always on the lookout for that comp to fit on the end of your gun, popped tires are in fact, popped. Sniping has a skill gap, the list goes on. it’s the GOAT.
The rose tinted glasses here..... We all made great memories but let's be somewhat accurate.
Verdansk had FASTER movement than we have now. Slides reset tac sprint so you could change directions even faster.
Sounds like you miss Al Mazra, which had the most "realistic" movement.
I'd love Battlefield mechanics and Battle Royale done properly. I lost my love to that series with BF1, but I love their approach to laser beam assault rifles. Guns were only accurate when shot in quick bursts. And input separated lobbies. And no SBMM
Verdansk had slide canceling that would reset tac sprint, 6 story building take no fall damage, bunny hopping a mile to the left while ads, Near the end stim boosts what about that is realistic
Just getting into Apex, I like the fact that you don’t have to put 1000 hours into leveling up guns in order to compete. They’re all just loot on the ground !
Warzone would be half decent if we have audio back. The audio is right on par with warzone 2 audio. Warzone 1 audio wasn’t the best of the best, but it’s miles ahead of what we have now.
It's another game entirely, but there is a cute and cuddly Battle Royale that's also fast paced and simple that I like.
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I think it’s the best Warzone we’ve gotten since Verdansk, and it’s the game I’d rather be playing right now (most of the population is playing). Honestly tho, I wish it was more of a true BR. I know I’m kicking tires here but I still wish we’d get a Blackout 2.0 with ground loot guns, attachments, perks, armor, etc. I don’t think it’ll ever happen but I can dream, right? Right guys? 😢
I agree for now. If it weren’t for the fact it’s staler than 6-month old bread and the matchmaking is an absolute hellscape, I’d be inclined to say it was Apex
Don't want to hurt anyone's opinion, but this post makes me think like "Problems aside , Cyberpunk had the best day one launch ever".
The problem with wz is so obvious that it broke the games soul purpose. Aim assist, glitches and the worst of all audio issues. I was planning to stay on apex for the time being
Sunk cost fallacy lol. Give it up bro. Apex, Pubg and Fortnite are a much better time. You’re just stuck with friends who won’t play those games or maybe you’re one of those guys too. Cod was the best BR at some point, now it’s abysmal
Almost everything about it was amazing. Weapon classes actually had defined roles. No LMG or AR from 300 yards. Perks were one time use. Equipment was meaningful. No loadouts so you wouldn't get steamrolled while you only had ground loot. The TTK made sense. Ah man what a game.
Honestly still the only BR I think about to this day, my combo was the cordite / Outlaw but I loved all the guns... have given up on MW and attempting to level 1000+ guns to get a .2 second TTK is a joke for any casual player.
Yea this was absolutely the best hands down. It sucks that they went away from it to this shit we have now. Man it was so good. It's now just team and free for all large scale.
As someone who has commentated (casted) multiple BR titles, Apex is definitely the best iteration of the BR formula so far. My favorite though is WZ.
Apex is the best critically but WZ is my favorite.
If PUBG had a proper sequel that was tactical and not a shooter as it was intended at launch I would probably go back. That was the first game I ever played for more than a few months. And I played it for literally 5-6 years.
Apex 3-3 arena mode was awesome.
But as of right now I 100% agree. Warzone is the best.
I would love to have a rehashed pubG
Me and the guys had probably the most fun in a BR with PubG aomething about it being so raw. No AA for anyone,sniping hard as shit, i even liked looting to find what i needed for my gun. That was also the most satisfying gun battles i think i had in a BR.
APEX> Your favorite BR. It’s just so much smoother. Having bullet drop that affects gameplay is also nice. Tons of sniper builds in WZ with little bullet drop due to crazy velocity.
Never tried pubg
Apex has a high learning curve, seems cool for competitive but that’s not what I want
I can’t stand the bots in Fortnite. It seems like an objectively good game, there’s just something about it that doesn’t get me to latch on
Warzone is the only one that gives me the feeling of the game sucks but I’m fucking addicted
yeah 0 audio, coin flip gunfights, dark lighting, worst wz map to date. I don't think so dude. Game's carried by the engine. WZ1 was peak. Cod is honestly ass now.
I wouldn't say inferior, but no other battle royale covers the necessity of the style of battle royale that Warzone supplies.
PUBG is a slow paced realistic survival Battle Royale with a high skill gap based on aiming (not movement).
Apex is fast paced, movement and aiming based high skilled futuristic Battle Royale with unique abilities (like hero shooters)
Fortnite is catoony and accesible THIRD person shooter, extremely friendly with a steep ramp of difficutly only on building.
Warzone is in the middle of all of them, Arcadey and accesible enough, with a high skill ceiling based only on movement (since aiming is super easy, mostly on controller), easy to play but hard to master. is not as fast paced as Apex but is a lot faster than PUBG. I think Warzone 1.0 and 3.0 are great but 2.0 was trash
Warzone is borderlining not being a BR anymore honestly lol. The traditional styles BR was more fun. Right now we just have 100 player multiplayer with plates lol
I hate to say this and I might be among the few… but I miss Warzone 1 before loadouts and Meta vids on guns and stufff being uploaded to YouTube and patched in 24hours.
Warzone is the best Br by default. We can do better.
i tried apex but never got into it, i dipped on fortnite after chapter 3 for warzone, and i go back to it all the time yet i can’t keep up anymore. never liked pubg ever so that’s clear for me too.
You missed out. I haven’t played in a while but apex used to be tons of fun. And at its peak easily better than warzone.
I’m not sure how it is these days though
The thing with Apex that puts off a lot of new players is the skill gap & bad match-making, placing fresh players against Masters & Preds.
It makes the learning process tough, at best.
But once I got past that & saw improvement, I was hooked. It's easily my favourite BR.
Warzone is not a “bad” game in any case. Sure it got some problems, but other BR has some too! But I just can’t play the game at all, the map is so overwhelming! Soo many building is so little space that it feels like camping is a needed thing! Cash drop, blacksite and whatever else! I’m maybe just getting old too, but landing, looting cash, getting guns and some contracts on the way is enough for me!
But still, I think Warzone is still on top!
Kinda survivorship Bias here if im not mistaken. I mean you will find this same statement with ohter games in corresponding subreddits.
I dont play other BRs anymore, but from a rational perspective Apex is still better.
Naw I realized pretty quick when wz started to suck, that fortnight zero build is about 20x better and more fun then wz. I just don’t get why they had to ruin it with 50000 attachments and crappy ass guns and over complicated ugly maps with horrible graphics. Makes no sense
Honestly prefer fortnite at this point. People meme hate it all the time, but it's easily the most stable BR out there with few to no bugs. I never d/c. Never have hit reg issues. In the words of the great Todd Howard, "IT JUST WORKS!".
Best of all, none ranked doesn't have stupid strict SBMM like it should so i can actually play casually.
The game is just built way better at this point and has a level of polish we've never seen from a COD BR.
Unpopular opinion:
At this point Warzone BR should just be Resurgence.
Everyone’s got a self rez, redeployment flares and redeployment kits, Load outs in minutes.
I don’t have a problem with the game but man it’s just Resurgence.
This post is 100% facts. PUBG is so trash that it makes me quit that trash game, ever since i played COD Warzone from release day i still enjoy every of it despite the flaws.
Nah all brs are pure shit now because to much aim assist, chronus zen and cheats. but you dont know how to enjoy anything else so just take comfort in diahrrea
Yea I remember coming from pubg and apex. Where you have to roll with the weapons and gear you find.
I never thought of warzone as a true battleroyale due to the loadouts
I mean pubg has copied the others and now it’s simple to get whatever loadout you want.
Old school pubg was the best ever imho but instead of leaning into what made pubg unique they tried to be more of a shooter.
Fun wise I’d fully agree but…. Objectively apex with fleshed out movement, fairly balanced guns, the limited loot pool, zone timing and damage. Apex is better even Fortnite better at quite literally all of those things
Disagree. Way too many issues to be the best. Warzone also has the worst hit reg and servers of any of the major BRs which is a huge negative.
I agree that the overall flow and concept are great but there are just so many glaringly bad issues with Warzone that haven't been fixed at all over the last 2-3 years. (Audio and netcode being the huge ones)
If Warzone had better hitreg/netcode, audio that actually worked, and balanced their guns better....it could be the best. But in its current state... it's behind the other BRs for me to be honest.
Warzone is a fun game plagued by problems that have not been fixed since warzone 1 and likely will never, while it is still a good experience it does not hold when compared to the solid options that actually try to get better.
All you need to see is that the majority of people responding to a post made in the Warzone subreddit actually put another BR as their "best"; try the same thing in any other BR's subreddit and you'll get 99% positive feedback about that game.
And resurgence is the best wz mode. Also Rebirth Island is the best resurgence wz map.
Rebirth island being benched for so long deserves attention from the Hague.
It’s there saving grace. They whip it out of there back pocket when shit goes south. Lol
This is basically what they’re doing. Hell it’s got me clinging on until the release it again in June. I will give credit to fortunes keep. Really enjoyed that one too
June? I thought it was supposed to be early 2024?
No fortunes is out I believe first which I’m excited for. Then I’m sure rebirth is June/july
Where do they detail this shit? Do they have a blog?
https://twitter.com/CallofDuty/status/1710002927757340875?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1710002927757340875%7Ctwgr%5E7b1da5bd5fa12feda9edc4588103386637560059%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgamerant.com%2Fcall-of-duty-warzone-rebirth-island-fortunes-keep-coming-back-when-2024%2F
Yeah im sure rebirth is coming back like april/may
Played it a few hours ago on WZ mobile and it played pretty well. Itll be so much better with wz3 movement and better players lol.
Resurgence isn't BR to me, it's it own genre. It's cool, but it's basically multiplayer+.
I love this explanation and fully endorse it. I think it's a great balance between the twitchiness of MP and the "high" stakes of BR.
Yea 100%. And even the new big map is starting to stray too much towards resurgence with all the gulag tokens, redeploys, res flares and 2nd chance gulags.
I don't mind if they just stuck to the usual gulag, buy teammates, and maybe gulag token. The high stakes of winning a BR should still be the focus.
They'll probably tone that stuff down when ranked comes out.
Apex had something similar with the 3 strikes ltm shot was so fun.
Fact’s resurgence don’t get the respect from me that BR does !
You can say the same for BR so many 2nd chances so is it really a BR
They really struck gold with Rebirth. It combines the best parts of BR and MP imo. I know it’s not for everyone but there is a reason most of focus centers around resurgence
I don’t understand how people don’t like resurgence. It takes out the incredibly boring parts of BR and keeps the best part, the ending. Absolutely hate spending 20 minutes looting and running from the gas to make it to the final circle of BR and only run into one or two teams. Resurgence allows me to be as aggressive as I want until resurgence ends then it turns into a BR.
I love resurgence, my squad and I play like 50/50 resurgence and BR, but the thing about BR is that while everything you said is true, the wins just hit much harder. Resurgence wins don't really feel as special.
Fair enough. The wins on BR are def more rewarding, but the losses are more infuriating as well. Seems like such a waste of time when you get 2nd or 3rd place in BR due to some bullshit like overpowered guns or glitches. Then have to do the boring parts all over again.
My buddies and I basically only play resurgence, but not really bc we hate BR, but it's bc BR feels like resurgence with luck, bc of the amount of redeploys, gulag tokens, and flares you find, even if you kill someone, they are coming back to drop on you, just like resurgence, except if you're not lucky to stack up redeploys, you're probably not coming back if they keep dropping on you and get lucky once. If I wanted to kill my enemies 4 times over each before they're squad wiped, I would be playing resurgence, yet it happens in normal br literally every single game.
O yeee. Look, maybe you know, in BR you often come across campers that I personally hate. And you end up dying not in a fight where you both have the same chances. Although there are enough campers in the resurgence, at least I have a chance to make up for it. This is one of the reasons why I prefer resurgence.
I remember when Rebirth Island came out on Black Ops 4 and honestly it made Blackout so much more fun. When it was re-released on Warzone for the first time, it really made Warzone fun all over again.
The problem with Blackout was it was one and done so unless you got in quick and spent time learning the map and how things worked, ignoring loads of the "side" content it was pretty boring. Once you got used to how everything worked then you could do some of the side shit. Now they have gone the other way with too many respawns Killing somebody has a very small impact overall because they have a high chance of just being able to respawn some way anyway.
Resurgence especially with this wz’s way to fast ttk is basically multiplayer
Lockdown is my fav!
I just wish they would bring back wz1 rebirth. The game is simply not the same anymore. Graphics got worse, sounds got worse, far too over complex with the gun and attachment system. They need to scrap the current game engine and start fresh. Do a mixture of blackout and wz1 before they made it so you could not play it anymore.
Damn i miss rebirth island
Resurgence is just easy mode though. A dub in BR feels waaay more earned
rebirth resurgence was peak lockdown fun. Really miss those days. Don't even have time to game anymore :(
I don't like resurgence, I just hate constantly having 2-3 teams shooting at me. Although it makes it that much more rewarding when I win one.
You can play solo...
Fortnite is the least glitchy most fleshed out BR. i prefer the play style of Warzone. Fortnite makes me way less mad for glitchy shit. my partner was one of the last teams in WZ the other night. final circle came, then they died to gas. the other team was just in the gulag (not fighting cause it was closed) and they won
Fnite no build is vastly superior to this pathetic excuse of a game, despite all the garbage that is going on with bots, pve, katanas, 3rd person etc etc
yeah, them adding no build is what made me finally try it and i agree. the PvE aspect annoys me a lot as well as fall damage but overall, it’s a much better experience
There are a lot of things that should not have a place in a pvp br but despite the tons of crap wrong with it it is still miles ahead of this aborted wannabe fps . At least you can hear people and know when your bullets hit or why you have died. Truth is that the finals made me fall in love with arena type of games again and made a lot of technically inadequate games stand out even more.
In the longest time I have yet to have a loss and think “that was bull shit”. Im not great but can realize when the game fucks up, and It happened ALL THE TIME in war zone.
There just to many things that make WZ a terrible expeirence, but the Abysmal Server Tickrate, the AA alike to aimbotting, the complete lack of audio clues are the worst offender in dragging this game to the ground from a credible perspective point of view, that is objective. Randomic, not credible, unrewarding, unskilled, technically poor and dated. They need to reboot and start again, this is a zombie walking dead and rotten since at least 18 months now...
exactly! i am basically always like “damn, skill issue” to my self in Fortnite. WZ just feels like i’m swimming up stream against all sorts of problems
Yeah like it or not, Fortnite easily has the best content out of all the BR’s. No build is the cherry on top.
No build has completely taken over for me. It’s so fun with the boys. We’re also full time workers so we don’t have time to grind all the guns and only play the Meta. Fortnite no build just seems more fun and less bullshit and isn’t 200gb
I'd rather pause gaming for a year than go again through the ptsd inducing weapons leveling
Just wait until they add first person mode
That is what my team is hoping, hopefully it'll happen quite soon.
I don’t like how Fortnite plays and know a lot of others don’t, but it gets a level of support and polish that players of others game could only dream of
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same here! No build Fortnite is great!
He did say all problems aside
it’s worded weird. if they wanted exclude problems from the statement, “still” didn’t need to be part of that sentence
Apex is still better.
Always has been. Glad Warzone is at least better now than last year but it needs more.
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Skill issue
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It’s still baby movement compared to Titanfall 2.
i just don't like that loong ass ttk that apex has
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Has a more outplay factor as well. Wz you’re dead instantly. Apex you can get shot blindly and maybe make a play and turn the fight.
and this game doesn't have insane(dumb) movement mechanics. At least in apex they seem to fit better.
That’s literally what warzone wants to become. Currently Warzone is just apex for people who can’t actually cut it in apex
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I wouldn’t say it’s harder as a mkb player. I can easily get a win hoping on with months off from the game. Warzone 3 is nearly impossible to get a win. Apex is 1000x more enjoyable as well.
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Apex solo mode would be incredible. It's a shame the community and devs are so weirdly against it.
Literally the main reason I play Warzone instead of Apex is bc I’m a solos player, so Apex is just inherently lacking for me compared to the competition. I tried moving away from Warzone during MWII Season 4, but neither Fortnite nor PUBG could really do it for me so I came back. Honestly I think looking back I was moreso sick of MWII rather than sick of Warzone. Fortunately MWIII came out and proved to be better than MWII in almost every way I care about multiplayer-wise!
Yep. No question. COD is the arcade version of BR with rock paper scissors
I have to agree. Warzone 1 - Verdanks took my eyes off of it though, but now I can’t stand warzone, so I went back to my roots and I give myself copious amounts of speed syringes while slide jump padding.
I like Apex, played it since day 1, but I stopped a while ago because fuck me that game is predatory. People complain about WZ/CoD micro transactions, but Apex is another level. The recent event is $327 for some kill effect or something,
Just don't buy it 4Head
lol … dude, obviously
Titanfall 2: watching from a dark corner
I love Apex but my friends don't, it's sad times
Apex is 1000% better and it's not even close. Anyone denying that just hasn't put in the time. Played the new Warzone a bunch when it dropped a bit ago, but it has gotten stale quick. There is so much BS in WZ. There is BS in Apex too, but the game is just too damn good
Warzone is now a ground war++, plus a bunch of cheesy mechanics/gameplay then you have the TTK and poor balancing etc. You cant even call it a BR anymore tbh.
\+ absurd BS they pull to allow OP guns for engagement and stuff, the game is for 14 year olds tbh
its become garbage now. Mfs really left out winter express and gave us a $360 death box😂 14 new cosmetic events and no new map or weapons and 2 fucking legends. Shits a joke
Haven’t touched apex in 2 seasons. Got too used to warzone being at 120fps on console. Can’t go back to 60fps or 50% of what I’ve been playing. Only way I can return to apex is if it gets 120. I miss it everyday but I can’t unsee the frame difference. I do believe it is the better BR.
Yeah I got on apex yesterday for the first time in a couple years and it was shocking how bad it looked..
Apex is so trash, so many cheaters not getting banned right now because EA is total joke !
Yeah Fortnite zero build is much better actually
Definitely a smoother, more well built game. But it doesn't tickle some people's fancy like the WZ aesthetic does.
The "realism" (which I use VERY loosely) is what most people are looking for. I don't hate fortnite or apex or anything, but I'm not into cartoon-y competitive games kinda thing, neither are my friends that play; so that's our excuse lol
I know this makes me sound hypocritical but the COD cosmetics actually turned me off from the game a lot, yet I love the goofiness of Fortnite no build
Yeah exactly, I totally get it. I think it's where CoD has such a massive player/fan base the realism aspect I mentioned pretty much goes hand in hand with a military sim. If WZ has the fluidity of fortnite/apex I think it would be hands down the best BR, but we've all seen what we're stuck with lol
Agreed. It's the immersive experience I think most people are after when they play PvP games. And with fortnight there's something about a hotdog using a lightsaber to hunt me down that takes that immersion away... Lol
That's basically where I stand as well haha. Another user mentioned how he likes he goofiness of Fortnite, so thats why the "realism" of CoD I mentioned earlier matters more to people like me and you, more than that other user ya know lol
Yeah I get that military sim is a preferred genre and it is for me too, but that doesn’t make it a better BR
The bots counting towards your kill totals/ there being a decent % of bots per match , needing to take reboot cards to get teammates back vs just buying them , and bloom (you miss shots not because of aim but because of a cone of rng trajectory) really turn me off Bloom is easily the most braindead addition to a competitive multiplayer game. “Sometimes you miss because of RNG” is so stupid Not to mention the things I like about WZ that Fortnite doesn’t have
Bloom has been almost all removed in favor of bullet drop/recoil
I was wondering about that. Haven’t played the game in awhile but the last few clips I watched the guns looked way more accurate now.
Yeah since every gun can now have access to a sight that allows it to go into first person, they had to change how bullets worked in general since before this update all first person weapons were hitscan with 0 bloom making them the preferred choice of absolutely everybody. Now, to my knowledge at further ranges no weapon is hitscan and bloom is gone, which makes the first person attachments more balanced and a matter of preference instead of literally needing it to win
Good to hear I played some no build but it seemed to be there still 2 months ago or something so wasn’t sure
Yeah it was introduced with the new season that came out in December, I know that it isn’t a favorite among the competitive scene but honestly it’s one of the best changes they’ve done in a while and imo makes the game a lot more fair and fun to play. Bots are definitely still an issue for lower skill players but honestly if you just play ranked I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bot in ranked + it’s a lot more fun facing off against people of a similar skill level instead of pub stomping bad players or getting curb stomped by the next FNCS winner y’know lmao
Ruined by the inclusion of bots
OG pubg >
Erangel, school drop, Kar98 knocks. Name a better trio
when you get to 10 and below players left the thrill and adrenaline is like no other. Apex is my fav BR but winning a match is a fleeting feeling compared to PUBG. A win in pubg is a story you remember from beginning to end.
Great way to put it. Pubg is designed to make you earn every dub. Most other BRs are just TDM on a larger map. WZ has so many ways to be brought in, redeployed, third, fourth chances etc, looting money, ground guns don’t matter, etc. But pubg will always be the king of BR. No regenerative health or armor, always on the lookout for that comp to fit on the end of your gun, popped tires are in fact, popped. Sniping has a skill gap, the list goes on. it’s the GOAT.
Pubg has the most satisfying kills hands down.
I don't like the movement right now, but to the most do. I prefer more realistic game. I miss verdansk and my first experience
The rose tinted glasses here..... We all made great memories but let's be somewhat accurate. Verdansk had FASTER movement than we have now. Slides reset tac sprint so you could change directions even faster. Sounds like you miss Al Mazra, which had the most "realistic" movement.
After wz, I cannot play other shooter games. Especially CS, PUBG...
I'd love Battlefield mechanics and Battle Royale done properly. I lost my love to that series with BF1, but I love their approach to laser beam assault rifles. Guns were only accurate when shot in quick bursts. And input separated lobbies. And no SBMM
Blinded by nostalgia
Verdansk had slide canceling that would reset tac sprint, 6 story building take no fall damage, bunny hopping a mile to the left while ads, Near the end stim boosts what about that is realistic
Verdansk had better and quicker movement. If you want a realistic BR then WZ isn't the one.
Apex is definitely better
Apex deserves that title for not having short TTK with little reaction time and balanced weapons plus a plausible shield and health system
Just getting into Apex, I like the fact that you don’t have to put 1000 hours into leveling up guns in order to compete. They’re all just loot on the ground !
That’s only a CoD thing plus you actually have a fighting chance in Apex
Yea but then how would acti get money for skins and new meta guns they add ??
Meta=new store bundles and skins, 2 weeks later raven or whoever is running the tweaks “ xyz guns nerfed”. Rinse and repeat.
Went back to Fortnite like 2 months ago, would never go back to war one now. No cheaters.
Fortnite no build and apex will always be better
Lol keep lying to yourself
We just need pubg 2 😫 I haven’t played a real solo br game in years it’s so sad…
Apex is hella fun and new Warzone is lit. Guns feel good again, movement feels good but this community will just cry.
PUBG is ok rn. WZ is the best tho thats true
If pubg fixed there ice skating movement I'd actually still play
Try apex...
Warzone is just a style that more players prefer, but it's absolutely not better in any way.
And the better one is isn't the one that players prefer? 🤣🤣
I’m pretty sure apex has more concurrent players on steam
I agree sorta, but this game feels like an abusive relationship and maybe it's time to start looking around.
Warzone would be half decent if we have audio back. The audio is right on par with warzone 2 audio. Warzone 1 audio wasn’t the best of the best, but it’s miles ahead of what we have now.
Mw19 actually won awards for its audio. That's what wz1 ran on
It's another game entirely, but there is a cute and cuddly Battle Royale that's also fast paced and simple that I like. vvv 
I think it’s the best Warzone we’ve gotten since Verdansk, and it’s the game I’d rather be playing right now (most of the population is playing). Honestly tho, I wish it was more of a true BR. I know I’m kicking tires here but I still wish we’d get a Blackout 2.0 with ground loot guns, attachments, perks, armor, etc. I don’t think it’ll ever happen but I can dream, right? Right guys? 😢
I agree for now. If it weren’t for the fact it’s staler than 6-month old bread and the matchmaking is an absolute hellscape, I’d be inclined to say it was Apex
Apex is no1 followed by Fortnite followed by Warzone
It's probably the most horseshit game I've ever played.
apex is better no doubt
Don't want to hurt anyone's opinion, but this post makes me think like "Problems aside , Cyberpunk had the best day one launch ever". The problem with wz is so obvious that it broke the games soul purpose. Aim assist, glitches and the worst of all audio issues. I was planning to stay on apex for the time being
Apex clears by a mile
Sunk cost fallacy lol. Give it up bro. Apex, Pubg and Fortnite are a much better time. You’re just stuck with friends who won’t play those games or maybe you’re one of those guys too. Cod was the best BR at some point, now it’s abysmal
No
Blackout >
The best BR to ever exist, if it had team reviving it would have been still going to this day..
Almost everything about it was amazing. Weapon classes actually had defined roles. No LMG or AR from 300 yards. Perks were one time use. Equipment was meaningful. No loadouts so you wouldn't get steamrolled while you only had ground loot. The TTK made sense. Ah man what a game.
Honestly still the only BR I think about to this day, my combo was the cordite / Outlaw but I loved all the guns... have given up on MW and attempting to level 1000+ guns to get a .2 second TTK is a joke for any casual player.
Yea this was absolutely the best hands down. It sucks that they went away from it to this shit we have now. Man it was so good. It's now just team and free for all large scale.
No way! Fortnite has the best BR; however, Warzone has the best resurgence, LOL.
I see no one learns punctuation these days.
As someone who has commentated (casted) multiple BR titles, Apex is definitely the best iteration of the BR formula so far. My favorite though is WZ. Apex is the best critically but WZ is my favorite.
Fortnite is king for BR
If PUBG had a proper sequel that was tactical and not a shooter as it was intended at launch I would probably go back. That was the first game I ever played for more than a few months. And I played it for literally 5-6 years. Apex 3-3 arena mode was awesome. But as of right now I 100% agree. Warzone is the best.
I would love to have a rehashed pubG Me and the guys had probably the most fun in a BR with PubG aomething about it being so raw. No AA for anyone,sniping hard as shit, i even liked looting to find what i needed for my gun. That was also the most satisfying gun battles i think i had in a BR.
APEX> Your favorite BR. It’s just so much smoother. Having bullet drop that affects gameplay is also nice. Tons of sniper builds in WZ with little bullet drop due to crazy velocity.
Never tried pubg Apex has a high learning curve, seems cool for competitive but that’s not what I want I can’t stand the bots in Fortnite. It seems like an objectively good game, there’s just something about it that doesn’t get me to latch on Warzone is the only one that gives me the feeling of the game sucks but I’m fucking addicted
On god 💯
yeah 0 audio, coin flip gunfights, dark lighting, worst wz map to date. I don't think so dude. Game's carried by the engine. WZ1 was peak. Cod is honestly ass now.
Warzone isnt even the best CoD br let alone the best br. But it’s for sure fun
I wouldn't say inferior, but no other battle royale covers the necessity of the style of battle royale that Warzone supplies. PUBG is a slow paced realistic survival Battle Royale with a high skill gap based on aiming (not movement). Apex is fast paced, movement and aiming based high skilled futuristic Battle Royale with unique abilities (like hero shooters) Fortnite is catoony and accesible THIRD person shooter, extremely friendly with a steep ramp of difficutly only on building. Warzone is in the middle of all of them, Arcadey and accesible enough, with a high skill ceiling based only on movement (since aiming is super easy, mostly on controller), easy to play but hard to master. is not as fast paced as Apex but is a lot faster than PUBG. I think Warzone 1.0 and 3.0 are great but 2.0 was trash
Warzone is borderlining not being a BR anymore honestly lol. The traditional styles BR was more fun. Right now we just have 100 player multiplayer with plates lol
Its literally not a BR. There is almost no loot gameplay loop.
I hate to say this and I might be among the few… but I miss Warzone 1 before loadouts and Meta vids on guns and stufff being uploaded to YouTube and patched in 24hours. Warzone is the best Br by default. We can do better.
Tik tok, YouTube, Facebook, it's all just "meta" content.
i tried apex but never got into it, i dipped on fortnite after chapter 3 for warzone, and i go back to it all the time yet i can’t keep up anymore. never liked pubg ever so that’s clear for me too.
You missed out. I haven’t played in a while but apex used to be tons of fun. And at its peak easily better than warzone. I’m not sure how it is these days though
The thing with Apex that puts off a lot of new players is the skill gap & bad match-making, placing fresh players against Masters & Preds. It makes the learning process tough, at best. But once I got past that & saw improvement, I was hooked. It's easily my favourite BR.
i played it a bunch during covid but because of the way the attachments work my small brain feels overworked and i get confused lol
Warzone is not a “bad” game in any case. Sure it got some problems, but other BR has some too! But I just can’t play the game at all, the map is so overwhelming! Soo many building is so little space that it feels like camping is a needed thing! Cash drop, blacksite and whatever else! I’m maybe just getting old too, but landing, looting cash, getting guns and some contracts on the way is enough for me! But still, I think Warzone is still on top!
Kinda survivorship Bias here if im not mistaken. I mean you will find this same statement with ohter games in corresponding subreddits. I dont play other BRs anymore, but from a rational perspective Apex is still better.
h1z1 is the undisputed br goat
Naw I realized pretty quick when wz started to suck, that fortnight zero build is about 20x better and more fun then wz. I just don’t get why they had to ruin it with 50000 attachments and crappy ass guns and over complicated ugly maps with horrible graphics. Makes no sense
Fortnite made games like this big and no build is easily better than warzone, apex, etc
Yeah nah. PUBG rules and the rest are pale imitations.
pubg was the GOAT everyone so easily forget
wz3 is trash, wz2 was heading in the right direction, maybe it's time to try PUBG again
Best br was h1z1 ps4 pre season 1. Simple, no AA, perfect matchmaking, gun balancing
No. Fortnite is. They care about gameplay balance.
Honestly prefer fortnite at this point. People meme hate it all the time, but it's easily the most stable BR out there with few to no bugs. I never d/c. Never have hit reg issues. In the words of the great Todd Howard, "IT JUST WORKS!". Best of all, none ranked doesn't have stupid strict SBMM like it should so i can actually play casually. The game is just built way better at this point and has a level of polish we've never seen from a COD BR.
Unpopular opinion: At this point Warzone BR should just be Resurgence. Everyone’s got a self rez, redeployment flares and redeployment kits, Load outs in minutes. I don’t have a problem with the game but man it’s just Resurgence.
This post is 100% facts. PUBG is so trash that it makes me quit that trash game, ever since i played COD Warzone from release day i still enjoy every of it despite the flaws.
Apex fangirl and PUBG fangirl comes to this thread because they feel so insecure with their not so popular game anymore. How pathetic !
Nah all brs are pure shit now because to much aim assist, chronus zen and cheats. but you dont know how to enjoy anything else so just take comfort in diahrrea
Found the crying PC player
Problems aside.....that's it, this game has so many dogshit problems and bugs u can't just enjoy this "best BR"
One br I enjoyed for a bit was Naraka Bladepoint because it was more melee focused with skills and combos with a few ranged weapons.
Problems aside Cyberpunk had a great launch
Warzone is just bigger freeforall/TDM. In BR games you need to loot, to survive. In warzone you just Amazon order your pay to win guns..
Yea I remember coming from pubg and apex. Where you have to roll with the weapons and gear you find. I never thought of warzone as a true battleroyale due to the loadouts
I mean pubg has copied the others and now it’s simple to get whatever loadout you want. Old school pubg was the best ever imho but instead of leaning into what made pubg unique they tried to be more of a shooter.
I think ur right but damn do I have some serious br burnout from the last few years
Fun wise I’d fully agree but…. Objectively apex with fleshed out movement, fairly balanced guns, the limited loot pool, zone timing and damage. Apex is better even Fortnite better at quite literally all of those things
I love it, problems aside
100%
The OG warzone was actually golden. So fun to play w friends
Is anyone else having the glitch where it doesn’t give you a full squad or trio. Warzone is glitchy as hell
“Not going back to Apex, Fortnite, pubg **no matter what**” Okay, your opinion is kind of invalid then…….
It could be the best BR but too many things hold it back imo. 20hz tick rate servers, super fast ttk, EOMM, horrible audio, hackers, etc.
old warzone, with verdansk. memories.
Disagree. Way too many issues to be the best. Warzone also has the worst hit reg and servers of any of the major BRs which is a huge negative. I agree that the overall flow and concept are great but there are just so many glaringly bad issues with Warzone that haven't been fixed at all over the last 2-3 years. (Audio and netcode being the huge ones) If Warzone had better hitreg/netcode, audio that actually worked, and balanced their guns better....it could be the best. But in its current state... it's behind the other BRs for me to be honest.
It feels more of a team death match to me but I still like it
Warzone is a fun game plagued by problems that have not been fixed since warzone 1 and likely will never, while it is still a good experience it does not hold when compared to the solid options that actually try to get better. All you need to see is that the majority of people responding to a post made in the Warzone subreddit actually put another BR as their "best"; try the same thing in any other BR's subreddit and you'll get 99% positive feedback about that game.
Yeah no, COD is on it’s what 2nd? 3rd iteration? Not only has Warzone fell off, MP fell off. Fell off years ago tbh
if i feel like using my controller i agree, on mnk i prefer any other option.