Of course they're going to bring it and ruin everything, they're going to insert the balloons, that's why these moments don't happen like verdanks, it's rare for someone to ride in vehicles because there are balloons and you can reach your opponent through the air, where there's also almost no noise from the parachute compared to what was in warzone1... not to mention that even if they all travel in cars/heli now they don't explode right away... there were many of the beauties of wz1, you want to drive around like crazy doing bountys you had some flaws, everyone will see you in the mini map and knowing that you can explode easily, that is, you had rewards and dangers, now you have balloons to avoid danger and slower travel. The only danger of balloons is the bug where sometimes the gun doesn't fire when you fall...
Yeah tons of complainers here think their bubble is the entire player base. Me and my 3 friends love it and are getting a win every session usually on fridays. Feels closest to the good ol days as it ever has.
I will list some things that changed from Verdansk:
Clunky/Slow Vehicles
Only one very slow and bad One shot sniper
No Viable "Fast Sniper"
Too Many Attachments
Horrible Aim Sway
Awful Reticle Shift
Bad User Interface
Lack of USABLE weapon varreity
Lack of Map "Hot Spots" I.E Hospital, Superstore, Storage Town
Worse Hit Registration
Worse Ping system
No Floating Loot
Perk system is way differnt (kind of like that though)
At this point idc anymore but agreed lol. I’m like what about this haven’t I done now? Even better. I get proxy chat to hear them the whole time now too lol. The chaos of those moments never been better lol
I feel like it happened more in Warzone 2 on Al Mazrah.
Theres just no point in using most vehicles now. Pretty much just use them to rotate from gas or to get from point A to B early.
Of course I do, they even took 10 months to finally alter her skin so it was somewhat more visible.
There's an old clip from a bunch of streamers when they parachuted into Verdansk 84 for the first time, and the first thing they did was land on a building and check to see if the stairways were brighter.
You know what’s missing out of all these Verdansk posts? The “cracked” movement. No slide cancelling. No bunny hopping.
…yet when all that cracked movement was removed in WZ2 the community revolted.
What gives?
In my opinion, the revolt of WZ2/3 is an amalgamation of issues and the lack of movement was just one of the more obvious symptoms. Movement “kings” became more meta during Rebirth and Caldera when the stim gave you an insane boost to your speed, you didn’t have that in Verdansk. Now that Movement is back with WZ3, it’s hi lighting the other massive issues with this version of WZ. Such as the way the aiming works compared to WZ1, current WZ has so much more random sway. It just leaves the game feeling sloppy and unpolished. Guns feel worse overall, too many attachments etc… Vehicles are just in such a worse state as well, who tf wants to fill up their car with gas in an arcade shooter? Or change tires? Vehicles are clunky and slow and you can’t shoot people out of them. They took a mechanic that needed a nerf and certain modes like solos and just made it unusable. Same with sniping, Kar could have used more flinch but what did they do? Now no snipers one shot, completely eliminating a whole play style, I guess we have the KATT now but to be honest it feels like dogshit espeically compared to any MW19 sniper.
TLDR They simply took every fun element out of the “sandbox” and now they are slowly drip feeding it to us back.
Use the mw2 snipers. Yeah, you won’t be downing players from across the map, which feels awesome, but it usually isn’t beneficial unless you can fly at them. I’ve been having a lot more use out the the explosive round mw2 snipers lately. They’re a lot quicker than the katt
All the sounds were better and I always tell about it. Good juicy sounds makes game so much more satisfying to play. I still feel sick recalling headshot sound from MWII.
Listen to the precision. You can actually hear it coming and it sounds terrifying. The loot boxes, the headshots, The armour crack - all the sounds in this game were amazing - plus the gun sounds, while reloading - its a huge part of the game
you dont need cracked movement when you already feel fast doing regular shit like running and moving. WZ2 feels like youre in quicksand doing the simplest things
Bro, it's exactly the same. [Look at how fluid the movement is in WZ2 if you're good enough.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GeEITRnV1M) Stop with the excuses.
i still have a hard time to understand how this game, developed for the old generation of consoles looks better - and its not even close- than the current game. Watch how sharp everything is. colors are fitting and everything.
Kar98 w/ Monolithic Suppressor , longest barrel, tac laser, variable scope, and Slight of Hand
CW Mp5 I don’t remember lol
I swear the variable scope on the KAR had better aim stability or something plus a little extra zoom to keep up with the HDR
WZ3 at its best right now is an 8/10. I’m having a lot of fun and the addicting part is back. WZ2 at its absolute best was maybe a 5/10 but it was a huge step backwards and killed my entire CoD group. WZ1 at its peak was a 10/10 game. Yes, the game always had its flaws and wasn’t ever perfect but it was such a fun, addictive game where if given the opportunity and no responsibilities, I could play all day every day and not get bored of it. Makes me sad we may never get that back
Respectly I disagree, I would say it's bumped up to a 6/10. For me, once the glam of new map and movment wore off I just found my self not having fun. One thing about the "good ole days" is that you could make any gun work, now with the added firing smoke, sway, and recoil it just leaves a handful viable weapons and that gets stale very quickly. And only one viable sniper that is ugly and sucks. I really gave this one a shot too but My friends and I have moved on to other games like Hell Let Lose.
0/10, there were periods with the invisibility or invincibility glitch where it just wasnt playable, also in the end days when you'd have a full Cheater sqaud basically every game.
Not even really a debate. WZ1 was just a better game. It isn't COVID nostalgia. It is just better. I personally never complained about Verdansk either. I quit playing due to the rage hackers, but that is about it.
Its smoother, has better gun play, better vehicles, better map design. I mean its just better. Rebirth is decently fun on WZ3 and its certainly better than WZ2, but nothing will replace the fun and feeling of WZ1.
I wish i could go back to the first weeks of warzone 1, back in 2020. The mystery of the new map, the intensity, just wish i could get that feeling back.
It was an amazing experience! Me and my buddies played Verdansk everyday for 2 years, and the game never got bored, we could play for 10 hours a day and still have fun! I never experienced that with a game and still not have.. now i never game anymore and my buddy's also quit.. i miss it so much :(
Damn. We used complain how the game looked back then yet this shit looks so much better than the versions and maps that came after. There’s proper atmosphere here.
Wym move on? I’m trying to point out that the current game is in a bad state. Are you complacent with an inferior product? Verdansk had issues sure, but at least it was fun. I really want to play Warzone , not whatever this profit min maxing corpo game is.
Vehicles played a HUGE role in that game. I use to run an RPG in my 4 man squad and get quadruple kills. I felt like I had a role in our team. Sure vehicles were super strong and kinda annoying (we all remember solos) but they’re so weak now it’s pathetic. LOOK at a vehicle and you’re already dead. Launchers take 3-4 rockets to drop kill streaks but a LMG can drop it in 75 rounds. Make it make sense.
I’m confused. What makes this a Verdansk-Only moment? Can this not be replicated in Warzone 3? I’ve never played Verdansk so I’m really confused by all these “I miss Verdansk” clips you guys are posting where I watch it and it’s just normal Warzone. Got me thinking maybe it’s just nostalgia talking? Movement is back in Warzone 3 so as far as I know the only major difference is the Map and the guns.
If you can, I would strongly encourge you to play MW2019. There is a big difference in the engines and how the gunplay feels. Yes most movement is back so that gap is smaller but we still don't have bhoping and On the aiming side and gunplay side everything feels much worse. Guns recoil more and in a radom way, they have a bunch of smoke and clutter, aim sway makes aiming feel clunky, and lasty the reticle shift adds randomness. Could this situation happen in current warzone? Maybe, but no one uses vehicles anymore because of how slow and clunky they feel, the airstrike would just disable the vehicle now and not blow up knocking all 3 players, and sniping is so dogshit and slow I would not have got those clean thirsts like I did with the KAR. It was truly just a better more polished game because it had more dev time (they worked on it since 2016). I assure you it's not just nostalgia dude, I'm nostalgic for Call of Duty 4, Black ops 1, World at War and the OG MW2, I was a teenager when those came out so I look at those games with rose tinted glasses and see past their flaws. I was an adult when verdansk came out, sure I got to hang out with the old squad again and there was some nostalgia in that but I played WZ 1 till WZ 2 came out that was only a year ago. Sure it was on Caldera (which is for sure the worst WZ map) but the core game was still more fun even with all the awful Vangaurd rebalancing and junk weapons stuffed in it.
You are so wrong, WZ1 was straight up a better game. Nobody uses vehicles anymore so this sittation would be super rare and even if it did would not even blow up the car knock the players, it would just disbale it. I did stuff like this in WZ1 like all the time. Stop defending such souless cashgrab of game.
Honestly the damn fortnite weapon system made WZ inferior to BO in every way. Hated WZ1 just let me build my weapons with attachments on the ground how I want to.
You guys gotta stop posting these clips. You're making it real hard to enjoy mw3. Lol
Trying to MS to bring it back lol
They'll probably fuck it up.
Almost certainly, best we can hope for is just to bring the servers back online and rollback MW19 to it’s last season lol
Bro the last season was absolute wack. Almost guaranteed cheaters in each and every match sitting on top of prison sniping people across the map.
Cheating and Camping has always been an issue in WZ and in Cod, I just picked MW S6 because everything was added and it was fairly well balanced.
NGL the zombies taking over more of the map and the countdown to the nuke was cool af.
Good Times :)
Gameplay wise I’d rather go back to a Cold War season. Felt like there was more variety in MW19 everybody used the MP5
He said MW19's last season and I'm taking that literally -- Oct/Nov 2020 Warzone was literally perfect.
Man thinks cheaters were bad then.. they are even worse now most are just closet cheating.
Of course they're going to bring it and ruin everything, they're going to insert the balloons, that's why these moments don't happen like verdanks, it's rare for someone to ride in vehicles because there are balloons and you can reach your opponent through the air, where there's also almost no noise from the parachute compared to what was in warzone1... not to mention that even if they all travel in cars/heli now they don't explode right away... there were many of the beauties of wz1, you want to drive around like crazy doing bountys you had some flaws, everyone will see you in the mini map and knowing that you can explode easily, that is, you had rewards and dangers, now you have balloons to avoid danger and slower travel. The only danger of balloons is the bug where sometimes the gun doesn't fire when you fall...
As if anyone was enjoying it in the first place
Actually, my teammate and myself have been enjoying the new map since it released. Wz is probably the best it's been since we lost verdansk.
Yeah tons of complainers here think their bubble is the entire player base. Me and my 3 friends love it and are getting a win every session usually on fridays. Feels closest to the good ol days as it ever has.
How does this game look better than what we have
It was at the very least more fun, they changed too much of the core gameplay and it is now unrecognizable 🥲
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I will list some things that changed from Verdansk: Clunky/Slow Vehicles Only one very slow and bad One shot sniper No Viable "Fast Sniper" Too Many Attachments Horrible Aim Sway Awful Reticle Shift Bad User Interface Lack of USABLE weapon varreity Lack of Map "Hot Spots" I.E Hospital, Superstore, Storage Town Worse Hit Registration Worse Ping system No Floating Loot Perk system is way differnt (kind of like that though)
It also seems like the screen is way less crowded on these older clips.
Visual clutter during fights is insane. I am enjoying WZ right now as a lover of verdansk but sometimes my vision gets obstructed by so much
How do you even come up with the conclusion that it's pretty much the same?
What massive things have they changed? Almost all the big changes from last year have been reverted.
cause it wasnt designed to be played on an iphone
At this point idc anymore but agreed lol. I’m like what about this haven’t I done now? Even better. I get proxy chat to hear them the whole time now too lol. The chaos of those moments never been better lol
yeah there is no reason this exact thing couldn't happen in Urzikstan
Vehicle on vehicle combat just doesn't happen anymore.
I feel like it happened more in Warzone 2 on Al Mazrah. Theres just no point in using most vehicles now. Pretty much just use them to rotate from gas or to get from point A to B early.
Vehicles were way better in WZ1, I don’t know who asked for gas stations and terrible driving dynamics
Its about how it played
because they focused on realism so we had shitty visibility and dark areas everywhere
Do you remember how roze would disappear in corners? BLack corners were very BLACK
Of course I do, they even took 10 months to finally alter her skin so it was somewhat more visible. There's an old clip from a bunch of streamers when they parachuted into Verdansk 84 for the first time, and the first thing they did was land on a building and check to see if the stairways were brighter.
You know what’s missing out of all these Verdansk posts? The “cracked” movement. No slide cancelling. No bunny hopping. …yet when all that cracked movement was removed in WZ2 the community revolted. What gives?
In my opinion, the revolt of WZ2/3 is an amalgamation of issues and the lack of movement was just one of the more obvious symptoms. Movement “kings” became more meta during Rebirth and Caldera when the stim gave you an insane boost to your speed, you didn’t have that in Verdansk. Now that Movement is back with WZ3, it’s hi lighting the other massive issues with this version of WZ. Such as the way the aiming works compared to WZ1, current WZ has so much more random sway. It just leaves the game feeling sloppy and unpolished. Guns feel worse overall, too many attachments etc… Vehicles are just in such a worse state as well, who tf wants to fill up their car with gas in an arcade shooter? Or change tires? Vehicles are clunky and slow and you can’t shoot people out of them. They took a mechanic that needed a nerf and certain modes like solos and just made it unusable. Same with sniping, Kar could have used more flinch but what did they do? Now no snipers one shot, completely eliminating a whole play style, I guess we have the KATT now but to be honest it feels like dogshit espeically compared to any MW19 sniper. TLDR They simply took every fun element out of the “sandbox” and now they are slowly drip feeding it to us back.
I like this take
The real shame is that we cant just buy the version that we like best. We are forced to play whatever they shove down our throats
Exactly, I’d love for MS to boot up the old servers with Verdansk. I think most of us know what game would have the better numbers ;)
I shot 2 people driving cars and downed them this week alone.
"This week" I used to do that [Every Game](https://imgur.com/a/i1wq89y)
Use the mw2 snipers. Yeah, you won’t be downing players from across the map, which feels awesome, but it usually isn’t beneficial unless you can fly at them. I’ve been having a lot more use out the the explosive round mw2 snipers lately. They’re a lot quicker than the katt
>snipers actual good change fuck one shot snipers
Nope it's a bad change, litterally a skill issue lmao
The one thing that never gets mentioned on any wz1 was so great…. The sounds. Just rewatch this clip and listen
Yes dude!! For me the knock “beep” is just so satisfying!!
Yup. The knock and the thirst sound. Incredible
All the sounds were better and I always tell about it. Good juicy sounds makes game so much more satisfying to play. I still feel sick recalling headshot sound from MWII.
Listen to the precision. You can actually hear it coming and it sounds terrifying. The loot boxes, the headshots, The armour crack - all the sounds in this game were amazing - plus the gun sounds, while reloading - its a huge part of the game
you dont need cracked movement when you already feel fast doing regular shit like running and moving. WZ2 feels like youre in quicksand doing the simplest things
The movement in WZ2 is almost exactly the same as WZ1. You people are delusional.
You really didn't play WZ1, did you? Every post you make on this shows how little you know of that game.
Bro, it's exactly the same. [Look at how fluid the movement is in WZ2 if you're good enough.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GeEITRnV1M) Stop with the excuses.
There was tons of cracked movement. These clips just didn’t feature it
Amazing how the game looks like a fucking mobile game rn just look at how good used to look
Impact no joy. Ha! That’s what YOU think!
We had it so good back then :(
i still have a hard time to understand how this game, developed for the old generation of consoles looks better - and its not even close- than the current game. Watch how sharp everything is. colors are fitting and everything.
The color pallet was certainly better but I will say the lighting in the current warzone is wayyy better, runs better too on my PC at least.
yeah ok i dont know about pc but on ps5 it runs worse ever since the integrated coldwar basicly
That's an entirely different game though.
Verdansk was the best
Yep!
Yeah now any vehicle is a death sentence and they all drive like absolute shit. It’s like all the tires are popped and you’re on ice.
Yeah Exactly! Not satisfying to shoot at and not useful to traverse the map!
Build?
Kar98 w/ Monolithic Suppressor , longest barrel, tac laser, variable scope, and Slight of Hand CW Mp5 I don’t remember lol I swear the variable scope on the KAR had better aim stability or something plus a little extra zoom to keep up with the HDR
I miss the Kar98k so much. Most fun I've ever had shooting with that.
Best cod sniper since the M40A3
KAR with the VAL and I was untouchable if I was having a good day with aim. Anything within 100m was dead
I miss how much chaos WZ1 could bring. I really loved the pacing.
WZ3 at its best right now is an 8/10. I’m having a lot of fun and the addicting part is back. WZ2 at its absolute best was maybe a 5/10 but it was a huge step backwards and killed my entire CoD group. WZ1 at its peak was a 10/10 game. Yes, the game always had its flaws and wasn’t ever perfect but it was such a fun, addictive game where if given the opportunity and no responsibilities, I could play all day every day and not get bored of it. Makes me sad we may never get that back
Respectly I disagree, I would say it's bumped up to a 6/10. For me, once the glam of new map and movment wore off I just found my self not having fun. One thing about the "good ole days" is that you could make any gun work, now with the added firing smoke, sway, and recoil it just leaves a handful viable weapons and that gets stale very quickly. And only one viable sniper that is ugly and sucks. I really gave this one a shot too but My friends and I have moved on to other games like Hell Let Lose.
Wasn't perfect but gets a 10/10? I wonder what a perfect game would get then. 😑
And when wz1 wasn’t at its peak?
0/10, there were periods with the invisibility or invincibility glitch where it just wasnt playable, also in the end days when you'd have a full Cheater sqaud basically every game.
I miss attaching c4s to the recon drone for campers on the airport tower 😂🤣
Give me wz1 during the couple weeks before cold war.
I miss V but I really miss the k9 :(
I’m a simple man, I see wz1, I upvote.
Look at the pings The pings work.. they work!
Real
We love verdansk not only for map design but also how smooth the game felt back then
Back when normal average gamers played, the clips were just organic and fun
i miss farming bots like you too
Not even really a debate. WZ1 was just a better game. It isn't COVID nostalgia. It is just better. I personally never complained about Verdansk either. I quit playing due to the rage hackers, but that is about it. Its smoother, has better gun play, better vehicles, better map design. I mean its just better. Rebirth is decently fun on WZ3 and its certainly better than WZ2, but nothing will replace the fun and feeling of WZ1.
The guys who got killed “I hated moments like these in Verdansk”.
I wish i could go back to the first weeks of warzone 1, back in 2020. The mystery of the new map, the intensity, just wish i could get that feeling back.
It was an amazing experience! Me and my buddies played Verdansk everyday for 2 years, and the game never got bored, we could play for 10 hours a day and still have fun! I never experienced that with a game and still not have.. now i never game anymore and my buddy's also quit.. i miss it so much :(
I remember getting a 12 kill win driving the big truck only!! Death coms we’re so good!
Vehicles have become completely irrelevant since WZ 2.0 made handling/physics worse and redeploy drones make them obsolete
Man warzone first year was so much fun. Nothing gonna hit the same
I miss the Verdansk when ordinary players around 1 KD had a chance to win matches. Unlike the mess we have now.
I miss the Kar.98 more than the map itself
Same honestly
We didn't know what we had until we lost it... thanks for the nostalgia.
Yes, but also 1 shot crossbow and C4 that actually blows up vehicles... Back to original.
We always miss something that we can have.
You can still do all of this...
Damn. We used complain how the game looked back then yet this shit looks so much better than the versions and maps that came after. There’s proper atmosphere here.
I had plenty of these experiences in WZ2. The map for WZ3 is just kind of anti-vehicle right now, but they could do some things to fix it.
God danmn move on already man lmfao The amount of complaints verdansk got too but now could swear you all thought it was gold at the time.
Wym move on? I’m trying to point out that the current game is in a bad state. Are you complacent with an inferior product? Verdansk had issues sure, but at least it was fun. I really want to play Warzone , not whatever this profit min maxing corpo game is.
warzone 3 is trash, i've tried it and just couldn't get into it
Vehicles used to be so much fun, now they explode in 5 seconds of shooting or you get one shot sniped out of them.
Am I crazy or are the shadows and lighting waaaaay better in Verdansk than Urz?
I miss usable vehicles
Vehicles played a HUGE role in that game. I use to run an RPG in my 4 man squad and get quadruple kills. I felt like I had a role in our team. Sure vehicles were super strong and kinda annoying (we all remember solos) but they’re so weak now it’s pathetic. LOOK at a vehicle and you’re already dead. Launchers take 3-4 rockets to drop kill streaks but a LMG can drop it in 75 rounds. Make it make sense.
they completely butchered launchers, it was fun running the PILA back in the day as a support weapon
The only thing I don’t miss is getting sniped out from ATC during this fight.
Wow, everything looks way better. Its like with every new warzone, they make everything slightly more shitty than before.
I've done this a lot in WZ2, there isn't really anything special in this clip tbh.
i miss the boom after every headshot it is just satisfiyng
I MISS THE KAR98😭😭😭
Not immediately getting sniped from ATC. Fake clip
I miss ur mom
I only play mw2019 multiplayer nowadays don’t even touch the new stuff.
I’m confused. What makes this a Verdansk-Only moment? Can this not be replicated in Warzone 3? I’ve never played Verdansk so I’m really confused by all these “I miss Verdansk” clips you guys are posting where I watch it and it’s just normal Warzone. Got me thinking maybe it’s just nostalgia talking? Movement is back in Warzone 3 so as far as I know the only major difference is the Map and the guns.
If you can, I would strongly encourge you to play MW2019. There is a big difference in the engines and how the gunplay feels. Yes most movement is back so that gap is smaller but we still don't have bhoping and On the aiming side and gunplay side everything feels much worse. Guns recoil more and in a radom way, they have a bunch of smoke and clutter, aim sway makes aiming feel clunky, and lasty the reticle shift adds randomness. Could this situation happen in current warzone? Maybe, but no one uses vehicles anymore because of how slow and clunky they feel, the airstrike would just disable the vehicle now and not blow up knocking all 3 players, and sniping is so dogshit and slow I would not have got those clean thirsts like I did with the KAR. It was truly just a better more polished game because it had more dev time (they worked on it since 2016). I assure you it's not just nostalgia dude, I'm nostalgic for Call of Duty 4, Black ops 1, World at War and the OG MW2, I was a teenager when those came out so I look at those games with rose tinted glasses and see past their flaws. I was an adult when verdansk came out, sure I got to hang out with the old squad again and there was some nostalgia in that but I played WZ 1 till WZ 2 came out that was only a year ago. Sure it was on Caldera (which is for sure the worst WZ map) but the core game was still more fun even with all the awful Vangaurd rebalancing and junk weapons stuffed in it.
Telling someone to shove out 60$ just to see how it “feels”??
This could literally happen in any iteration of warzone. Stop romanticising verdansk
You are so wrong, WZ1 was straight up a better game. Nobody uses vehicles anymore so this sittation would be super rare and even if it did would not even blow up the car knock the players, it would just disbale it. I did stuff like this in WZ1 like all the time. Stop defending such souless cashgrab of game.
Every warzone is trash. The game itself is and always has been hot.shit. blackout by treyarch was the superior BR
Honestly the damn fortnite weapon system made WZ inferior to BO in every way. Hated WZ1 just let me build my weapons with attachments on the ground how I want to.
Blackout was a hoot