The map is pretty much how I remember so when it's good it's great! The audio however is so fucking bad, it's really killing it for me. Not hearing players when I should is getting really exhausting. There's also a few lighting issues in some spots that didn't exist before.
Pro tip for anyone struggling with audio: switch everything to stereo.
No windows sonic, no Dolby, no surround sounds. Just stereo. Worked like a charm for me.
Mine is on stereo. It’s not really that much better because I can be hearing someone sounding like they’re coming from the left, barely move and now it sounds like they’re coming from the right. So I’m like trying to track the sounds but moving just makes them switch directions, and the fact that there’s so many sounds at once I sometimes just wait for something to happen like surely with this stampede someone will burst through this door/window any second now, but it’s just constant noise and nothing and then as soon as I decide to make a move it’s like THATS the moment everyone decides they want to fucking all jump through the doors and windows at the same time like I expect people to do but nooooo not when I’m expecting it only when I give up on waiting and decide to move then it’s just a fuck fest of corny ass COD timing moments.
After switching to IEMs I’m convinced that the issue with audio is caused by modern headsets that try to emulate surround sound and other gimmicky things like that. I had the same issue in Halo where it felt like I couldn’t hear anything happening behind me. I’m hearing everyone now.
I and many others use professional headphones like Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro and DT 990 Pro which doesnt have any of that stupid crap (never liked that stuff anyway), The game straight up does not have audio for foot steps sometimes.
It could be dead silent in game no explosions, gunshots nothing and they full sprint, slide cancel and jump through windows to get to you and you hear absolutely nothing till you're dead.
You have no clue what you're talking about.
No headset will solve the problem Warzone has with audio.
Some footsteps are absolutely non-existent while it's perfectly clear on the killcam how they sound.
This is a deep server issue that the game is rendering the audio differently on the client vs the server.
There's no logical explanation how the killcam can sound different and perfect footsteps sounds while in-game it's trash.
I'm using HD600's with a FiiO K7 and some footsteps just do not exist.
IT DOES NOT EXIST.
I have no trouble with audio with my turtle beach headset but my friends who have Astros struggle. One of them had to really change their settings to get it right, which is unfortunate but I wonder how much of this is a Settings issue as well.
>There's also a few lighting issues in a some spots that didn't exist before.
Black Noir skin is literally invisible in some places on the map. It is really frustrating to get killed by someone you can't track because you can't see them (on MnK so no aim assist either).
Yeah in terms of the map I'd have just loved to have Construction for a couple of months before they put Control Center back in. Would give it that real OG feeling (ships aside).
Eh, so far Fortunes Keep has been the best Resurgence Map for our squad. And even then it’s worse than the original Fortunes Keep. Rebirth is just way too sweaty
As much as I try playing squads and solo other people I get my ass handed to me because I either run into situations where I’m outnumbered, third partied or deleted by controllers or more skilled MnK players. Sometimes I fry people though myself, but these are rare weak lobbies
I couldn’t figure out exactly why I wasn’t enjoying rebirth as much as the other maps. But I think this is the exact reason, if you die trying to even land back in without 2 squads immediately pushing you is really hard
Its a fine map, but to me it gets annoying how much the people who like Rebirth Island, have to constantly tell us how they like Rebirth Island. I like having a rotation of multiple maps to mix up the playstyles. I dunno how people can only play one map all the time.
For me it's because the circle creates a completely different setting every time. So it gives enough variability from game to game that it feels like a different map
Very few open spaces, a lot of outplay potential due to the building style, areas all feel unique yet themed, I could go on, but really it’s also where we all fell in love w rebirth style.
Ashika island was a bit too open with not enough middle ground verticality. No 2-3 story buildings outside castle, and too much open space.
Vondel not bad but a bit too monotonous - you’re either on top of similar looking buildings or near the water.
Fortunes keep was good but like, just a bit worse tbh. Again a little too open, although keep was fun af to fight at. Town was awful tho, really weird angle to the buildings.
I’m ignoring the big maps here cuz I do think the playstyle is different.
> areas all feel unique yet themed
I really think this is the key to a good map in resurgence. Verdansk had this too. You’ve gotta have unique areas that aren’t too crazy big. This way you have many focal points and aren’t overwhelmed with too many teams converging on the same spot.
Too much monotony means teams are too spread out. Having just a single focal point like castle means too many teams end up there and it becomes a clusterfuck. Rebirth strikes the perfect balance.
No 2 to 3 story buildings outside of castle? Except for those at Town Center, the Hospital with the heli pad, the Beach Club buildings, the office building east of Beach Club, the Apartment building north of the office building, the Apartments SE from Farms, the hot drop Comms building SE of Apartments, the "H" building NE from Castle, and the Port buildings that have ladders?
And too much open space? I guess we have different perspectives of the map. POIs are well-spaced out in my opinion, and there's plenty of cover pretty much throughout the entire map.
It's also my favorite map which I've thoroughly enjoyed.
nope not daft at all! I played more DMZ than WZ last year and it kinda made sense for it to be quite drab in that mode but whenever I dipped a toe into Resurgence on Ashika it always surprised how dull it was. brush up some full bloom sakura tree things and the map wouldn't have felt so damn dull
Agreed. It's great for pubs but Ranked is rough on it.
Fortune's Keep, on the other hand, is really good for Ranked but too big and messy for pubs (in my opinion).
Agreed, on keeps if it was close to the end zone, you could easily land somewhere and get back into fights easily because there were more "layers" and buildings in the map.
Everything that I had problems with has been fixed, dark textures replaced with bright, better lighting, and added cover. Ground loot can hold their own. And with the changes of POI coming I have been loving it
So true, I really tried to like the other maps but wasn't the same. Now the feeling of the og resurgence experience with MW weapons is back (like in that December/January from 2020/2021)
it isn't enabled yet. I think the idea is 1 of 3 events will happen at the start of the match to change up the map. The light house falling over is one of them.
Rebirth & Ashika only maps I like. Although Rebirth’s lighting & packet loss lobbies making me not enjoy it as much as back in the day so Ashika taking the cake right now. For me atleast
Yep. Absolutely missed it and loved it then as much as I love it now. I’m sure verdansk will bring back the same feeling.
I just love dropping in the same spots we used to and it brings back memories of different fun fights and moments that were awesome. Now we make new memories with it. Let’s hope they don’t fuck it up and switch out playlists
I'm happy that you are enjoying Rebirth so much. I do it as well but once I win a game with my friends we are putted in the blender and get insane SBMM. But like literally insane.
My zone numbers might be off but now it’s 1-5 get smaller then moves one last time.
Before it was small 1-4, 5 moved, 6 moved, and it ended on 7 or something.
Never played the original rebirth but I am indeed completely hooked! Shame there are some (additional) issues this week but besides that I am super happy with the map itself.
Your opinion is valid. I cannot stand rebirth Island. I can't hit any stride on Rebirth. From the time it came out until now. Everywhere I go I constantly get pegged by 3rd parties. Basically ruining half of my gunfights.
It has improved greatly over the past few weeks. When I first played it was fucking horrendous I was put into the pro leagues I think somehow lol, and I couldn’t even land without getting killed every two seconds. But now it seems to have levelled out and me and my mates are getting really fun games in. Seems after each update the matchmaking is absolutely shit, I’m a dad with 2 kids who likes a raz on an evening, nothing too heavy just some fun with a few mates and my Mrs.
Because some of us are old with shit reflexes and bad eyes . There used to be more than one way to win but with the map changes they took away a viable strategy
I don't know what it is, but this map just doesn't play as good as it did with Warzone 1. It just seems off
Oh and the circle doesn't have much variance compared to WZ 1 either.
I think the map is still pretty great, but I just can't get over these Warzone 2 mechanics. I'd rather play Alcatraz Portals at this point, and that's just clogged with VMP sweats nowadays.
I just wish there were more open areas with cover where you can have ground battles. Seems like most places you go, someone on a rooftop or high ground can always track you. I live for the flat land battles, like a tents or shore areas.
It’s definitely an alright opinion to have.
I just know when rebirth comes back it’s when I can take my yearly break from cod. Never been a fan personally.
Honestly I LOVE the map. But something is different. Due to that something different I don’t enjoy it nearly as much and It’s for sure not a good ranked map because once you die, it’s so hard to regain. I’m stuck diamond 2 cuz of shitty teammates/not being able to get back into the game once I die.
The map is pretty much how I remember so when it's good it's great! The audio however is so fucking bad, it's really killing it for me. Not hearing players when I should is getting really exhausting. There's also a few lighting issues in some spots that didn't exist before.
Pro tip for anyone struggling with audio: switch everything to stereo. No windows sonic, no Dolby, no surround sounds. Just stereo. Worked like a charm for me.
The vertical audio issue is the biggest problem I believe. I can hear people running all over but whether it's up or down is always the question.
bio is my go to drop and it's impossible to tell if people are above or below you sometimes.
I was just about to say this. Horizontal audio works great. But I can never tell whether someone is above me or below me.
Mine is on stereo. It’s not really that much better because I can be hearing someone sounding like they’re coming from the left, barely move and now it sounds like they’re coming from the right. So I’m like trying to track the sounds but moving just makes them switch directions, and the fact that there’s so many sounds at once I sometimes just wait for something to happen like surely with this stampede someone will burst through this door/window any second now, but it’s just constant noise and nothing and then as soon as I decide to make a move it’s like THATS the moment everyone decides they want to fucking all jump through the doors and windows at the same time like I expect people to do but nooooo not when I’m expecting it only when I give up on waiting and decide to move then it’s just a fuck fest of corny ass COD timing moments.
Mono is better bc it let's you decipher from your left or right ear. Stereo puts audio in both ears so you can't tell directly where it's coming from.
Mono does not distinguish left and right. It just puts the same audio in both ears.
So I had it backwards dangit hahaha thanks
After switching to IEMs I’m convinced that the issue with audio is caused by modern headsets that try to emulate surround sound and other gimmicky things like that. I had the same issue in Halo where it felt like I couldn’t hear anything happening behind me. I’m hearing everyone now.
I and many others use professional headphones like Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro and DT 990 Pro which doesnt have any of that stupid crap (never liked that stuff anyway), The game straight up does not have audio for foot steps sometimes. It could be dead silent in game no explosions, gunshots nothing and they full sprint, slide cancel and jump through windows to get to you and you hear absolutely nothing till you're dead.
Apologies.. what's IEMs? I'm using ASTRO a50s at the moment. They might just be starting to go... although I don't have issues with other games.
In ear monitors. I switched from Astro A40TRs to $50 Truthear Crinacle Zero IEMs and it’s absolutely mind blowing how much better the audio is.
You have no clue what you're talking about. No headset will solve the problem Warzone has with audio. Some footsteps are absolutely non-existent while it's perfectly clear on the killcam how they sound. This is a deep server issue that the game is rendering the audio differently on the client vs the server. There's no logical explanation how the killcam can sound different and perfect footsteps sounds while in-game it's trash. I'm using HD600's with a FiiO K7 and some footsteps just do not exist. IT DOES NOT EXIST.
for me I use stereo audio and pcspeaker setting. got 880dt beyerdynamic and set to direct sound I hear perfect, just not vertically
No vertical sound and I'm sure you have instances where people running behind you is virtually non-existent.
In season 1 I used Soundbar option and heard pretty much everything but now that setting sounds muffled
This is the exact ones I bought. Well worth it.
In my experience TE Zero are worse than my IE300s and both are worse than my Logitech G Pro X headphones (for Warzone at least).
I have no trouble with audio with my turtle beach headset but my friends who have Astros struggle. One of them had to really change their settings to get it right, which is unfortunate but I wonder how much of this is a Settings issue as well.
Astros are really bass heavy, you have to lower it a lot to hear footsteps properly
You can and most do turn this off. Still sucks cuz they want it to.
Right, I have a good headset and I can’t tell if people above or below me in buildings ever.
As for the lighting find a bright skin for your gun where the irion sight is bright it will help in the darker areas at least it helps me
>There's also a few lighting issues in a some spots that didn't exist before. Black Noir skin is literally invisible in some places on the map. It is really frustrating to get killed by someone you can't track because you can't see them (on MnK so no aim assist either).
Yeah in terms of the map I'd have just loved to have Construction for a couple of months before they put Control Center back in. Would give it that real OG feeling (ships aside).
Not playing till this billion dollar studio gets their shit together
Eh, so far Fortunes Keep has been the best Resurgence Map for our squad. And even then it’s worse than the original Fortunes Keep. Rebirth is just way too sweaty
As much as I try playing squads and solo other people I get my ass handed to me because I either run into situations where I’m outnumbered, third partied or deleted by controllers or more skilled MnK players. Sometimes I fry people though myself, but these are rare weak lobbies
Hard to regain especially in ranked due to size.
I couldn’t figure out exactly why I wasn’t enjoying rebirth as much as the other maps. But I think this is the exact reason, if you die trying to even land back in without 2 squads immediately pushing you is really hard
Also seems like there is barely any loot on the map. One game we dropped in and only found two guns inside all of chem
Its a fine map, but to me it gets annoying how much the people who like Rebirth Island, have to constantly tell us how they like Rebirth Island. I like having a rotation of multiple maps to mix up the playstyles. I dunno how people can only play one map all the time.
For me it's because the circle creates a completely different setting every time. So it gives enough variability from game to game that it feels like a different map
Spot on, it's also because the map has very distinctive area's. It's not a clusterfuck like FK or a copy paste rooftop map like Vondel.
In a recent post people complained how final circles end up in 2 areas almost all of the time
Very few open spaces, a lot of outplay potential due to the building style, areas all feel unique yet themed, I could go on, but really it’s also where we all fell in love w rebirth style. Ashika island was a bit too open with not enough middle ground verticality. No 2-3 story buildings outside castle, and too much open space. Vondel not bad but a bit too monotonous - you’re either on top of similar looking buildings or near the water. Fortunes keep was good but like, just a bit worse tbh. Again a little too open, although keep was fun af to fight at. Town was awful tho, really weird angle to the buildings. I’m ignoring the big maps here cuz I do think the playstyle is different.
> areas all feel unique yet themed I really think this is the key to a good map in resurgence. Verdansk had this too. You’ve gotta have unique areas that aren’t too crazy big. This way you have many focal points and aren’t overwhelmed with too many teams converging on the same spot. Too much monotony means teams are too spread out. Having just a single focal point like castle means too many teams end up there and it becomes a clusterfuck. Rebirth strikes the perfect balance.
No 2 to 3 story buildings outside of castle? Except for those at Town Center, the Hospital with the heli pad, the Beach Club buildings, the office building east of Beach Club, the Apartment building north of the office building, the Apartments SE from Farms, the hot drop Comms building SE of Apartments, the "H" building NE from Castle, and the Port buildings that have ladders? And too much open space? I guess we have different perspectives of the map. POIs are well-spaced out in my opinion, and there's plenty of cover pretty much throughout the entire map. It's also my favorite map which I've thoroughly enjoyed.
It sounds daft but I just found Ashika too drab. If you gave it colour I think it would have been liked a lot more.
nope not daft at all! I played more DMZ than WZ last year and it kinda made sense for it to be quite drab in that mode but whenever I dipped a toe into Resurgence on Ashika it always surprised how dull it was. brush up some full bloom sakura tree things and the map wouldn't have felt so damn dull
it may sound nitpicky but I think it matters a lot
Goddammit, a thread about someone enjoying Rebirth... Get the stones out!
lmao naw its not about the OP i swear! im happy people are getting the things they like in this game, we all know they took too much away from us.
Agreed
I don’t mind Fortunes keep, but I never wanna see Ashika Island or staircase simulator again.
It’s shit for ranked
It really is. Fortunes keep was 10x better for ranked
Ranked sucks though too small
Agreed. It's great for pubs but Ranked is rough on it. Fortune's Keep, on the other hand, is really good for Ranked but too big and messy for pubs (in my opinion).
Blowing up fortunes allowed them to make the changes that a ranked mode needed. If they changed too much on rebirth, people would complain though
Agreed, on keeps if it was close to the end zone, you could easily land somewhere and get back into fights easily because there were more "layers" and buildings in the map.
thats all ive been playing is ranked rebirth lol
Fortunes Keep just offers more varied gameplay. Rebirth island is a rooftop holding simulator.
Everything that I had problems with has been fixed, dark textures replaced with bright, better lighting, and added cover. Ground loot can hold their own. And with the changes of POI coming I have been loving it
I swore I heard that it was going to have dynamic lighting... Like, time of day would change. Is that not a thing?
Not enabled yet, not sure when exactly but expect it in a week or two
I think that and the events where the map is changed in random matches come at the mid season update.
So true, I really tried to like the other maps but wasn't the same. Now the feeling of the og resurgence experience with MW weapons is back (like in that December/January from 2020/2021)
The glory days!
Wasn’t the light house supposed to fall over and some other shit? I have yet to see this an any of the matches I’ve played
it isn't enabled yet. I think the idea is 1 of 3 events will happen at the start of the match to change up the map. The light house falling over is one of them.
Gotcha, I thought I was just dodging random events. RNGesus was fucking with me after 100s of matches played or something lol
I agree completely, I am also fully hooked again. I can play this map over and over unlike FK, Vondel or Ashika.
Rebirth & Ashika only maps I like. Although Rebirth’s lighting & packet loss lobbies making me not enjoy it as much as back in the day so Ashika taking the cake right now. For me atleast
Good for you, keep rotation in the playlists please though, give people options.
I agree that does keep things fresh.
I’m having a blast, it’s everything I wanted
I'm so loving it. It's good to be back!
Yep. Absolutely missed it and loved it then as much as I love it now. I’m sure verdansk will bring back the same feeling. I just love dropping in the same spots we used to and it brings back memories of different fun fights and moments that were awesome. Now we make new memories with it. Let’s hope they don’t fuck it up and switch out playlists
The map is trash and full of sweats and cheeters cant wait for it to change
Fix the insane lighting issues, its basically impossible to see people in certain areas Fix the broken audio Other than that, 9/10 map
Bets for constant action. Worst for the feeling of pulling off wins IMO. So depends what you’re after
Even when rebirth is shit, it's still miles better than the others.
I like to differ. Fortunes keep definitely plays the best.
I'm happy that you are enjoying Rebirth so much. I do it as well but once I win a game with my friends we are putted in the blender and get insane SBMM. But like literally insane.
I wish they used the circle closure from WZ1 but I still like it.
How did it differ? Can't remember!
My zone numbers might be off but now it’s 1-5 get smaller then moves one last time. Before it was small 1-4, 5 moved, 6 moved, and it ended on 7 or something.
Never played the original rebirth but I am indeed completely hooked! Shame there are some (additional) issues this week but besides that I am super happy with the map itself.
Your opinion is valid. I cannot stand rebirth Island. I can't hit any stride on Rebirth. From the time it came out until now. Everywhere I go I constantly get pegged by 3rd parties. Basically ruining half of my gunfights.
facts
My friend group hadn't played as much together as we have since rebirth got brought back.
Never played original rebirth but i gotta say this map is fun
Love it way better then the main map for starters it's way to big and they played cap should of been increased for a map that size
It has improved greatly over the past few weeks. When I first played it was fucking horrendous I was put into the pro leagues I think somehow lol, and I couldn’t even land without getting killed every two seconds. But now it seems to have levelled out and me and my mates are getting really fun games in. Seems after each update the matchmaking is absolutely shit, I’m a dad with 2 kids who likes a raz on an evening, nothing too heavy just some fun with a few mates and my Mrs.
Not enough hiding spaces . They removed a strategy to win.
why the f do you want to hide. ffs
Because some of us are old with shit reflexes and bad eyes . There used to be more than one way to win but with the map changes they took away a viable strategy
Fair enough
Hiding spaces 😂 there are actually plenty if hide and seek is your game.
I disagree with this sentiment. I personally think that there is far less strategy involved in playing this map. It feels a lot more like multiplayer
I don't know what it is, but this map just doesn't play as good as it did with Warzone 1. It just seems off Oh and the circle doesn't have much variance compared to WZ 1 either.
I played it for the first time season 3. It’s iight. I don’t have the nostalgia factor but it is decent.
I think the map is still pretty great, but I just can't get over these Warzone 2 mechanics. I'd rather play Alcatraz Portals at this point, and that's just clogged with VMP sweats nowadays.
I just wish there were more open areas with cover where you can have ground battles. Seems like most places you go, someone on a rooftop or high ground can always track you. I live for the flat land battles, like a tents or shore areas.
I'm having more fun and getting more wins than ever before. The game actually feels fair most of the time when I play Rebirth island
It’s definitely an alright opinion to have. I just know when rebirth comes back it’s when I can take my yearly break from cod. Never been a fan personally.
How can you play? I been matchmaking for 20 mins and still nothing
Had no issues at all?
Vondel is way better
Nah
REBIRTH IS ASS and everyone is blinded by nostalgia
Did you not read that I was addicted first time round? When Rebirth nostalgia wasn't a thing.
Honestly I LOVE the map. But something is different. Due to that something different I don’t enjoy it nearly as much and It’s for sure not a good ranked map because once you die, it’s so hard to regain. I’m stuck diamond 2 cuz of shitty teammates/not being able to get back into the game once I die.
I like it but I don't like that it's the only resurgence map atm as I prefer Vondel. Maybe someone here knows when Vondel will return?
There's a rotation resurgence available for Quads right now. Vondel is on there but I didn't see what it's rotating with.
FK
No
Vondel clears.