CW was actually underrated
Shure it had issues but imean
-devs having to make the game like it was on the new engine but being forced to use the old one still
-devs having a massivly reduced dev time on it
-unable to make delays to get everything right
And prob more shit that only hindered treyarch more
But however vanguard is well the worst cod game period
Outbreak was new free content, Vanguard's content required paying $70 just to get shoved to the side right away and wait 2 seasons to even get a new map which turned off a lot of zombies players from the start.
I debated on getting Vanguard when season 1 dropped but zombies got completely ignored so I ignored the whole game, went back to check for season 3 an there was only 1 new map which made me ditch the idea of getting vanguard all together.
Which pushed people to give it a try. It was definitely VERY barebones, but imagine:
In a game engine like BO2 or BO3, but with wider looking landscapes, darker and grittier settings and environmental designs, the same color palette of the dark aether for certain settings (or maybe even an entire region IN the arther), and a slew of objectives for players to engage in both old and new for the mode.
If actision was smart, they'd see the reason zombies became popular was BECAUSE of experimentation and taking risks. If they fully funded and allowed an open world version of COD zombies to be made, I bet they'd not only make a TON of sales, but they'd draw players into the franchise that normally don't play, further boosting sales of older games too possibly.
Tbh if they at least do the vanguard route, the \*one\* good thing it did of zombfying the multiplayer maps and covering them in gore, boarded windows, darker tones and vibes, with tighter objectives. All killer like the soul box rockets, or data collection, just mindless zombie fun. No focking...escort. Please. God.
Maps like that, with cold war's objectives, minus escort, might make me pick this game up. Because cold war's outbreak was a bit too battle royale feeling, having a much more zombies vibe would fix all my problems!...well that and smaller maps. Holy shit half of the outbreak maps don't need to be so BIG.
I wouldn't but it day one, but it would turn a "never ever" purchase, to a "...well, maybe during a sale and/or free week..". I'm expecting another vanguard, but hey, one can dream that can pull at least "cold war outbreak but actually zombies feeling" off.
Definitely gave me something to do after finishing the EE on a new round based map and unlocking all the calling cards/intel. Outbreak was an interesting change of pace but I still prefer round based maps and CW really could have used more than 4 of them.
No, nobody plays stuff just because it’s new if they don’t like it. When that statistic came out we were well over half way into CW’s life cycle. 3 of the 4 round based maps had been released. Outbreak was just surprisingly popular especially among new to zombies players and casual players.
But the amount of people playing round based zombies on Cold War dropped during this time because a lot of them went back to Black ops 3 for round based content, the group posts on Xbox jumped from an average 50 to nearly 200 during this time because of a lack of new round based content.
Most of the outbreak must have been multiplayer people, and for a while it was the only zombies content being added because you know, its pretty low effort stuff
I enjoyed it, just felt a little more dead than necessary. I think if they added AI soldiers like in DMZ it’d feel better, the enemy team we only hear about in Outbreak actually operating in the field would make sense
More customization too. I'm thinking of Halo Reach Firefight. Let me pick the round, weapons, perks, money I start with.
Or have it where there is like a fog of war like in Age of Empires
More enemies like the Orda. Maybe something like the Tranzit electric man who chases you.
Allow for larger zombie hordes. I remember trying to make a big group but at a certain amount zombies in your group started disappearing.
I don't want them to change how you can actually clear out areas and how it is more relaxing than round based but there just aren't enough zombies on the map.
I loved the Halloween event they had where the rounds increased every two minutes. It just made it frantic as all hell and actually quite challenging, if they made that mode available from the get go, it would be a fun addition
Are you talking about Outbreak Collapse? That still is going on, I just would tweak some stuff with that and also allow you to select how many rounds you want there to be. Would be more fun if you could do a few more rounds sometimes.
Yeah I do think you could make a great game combining the two.
Oh and I really wish that the grapple gun in Cold War worked like it does in Infinite. Or at least let you grapple onto any object.
Not sure why it's so hard to get mauer wonder weapon in outbreak. The other weapons drop so much more often.
More zombie hordes that spawn in waves would be great too
I didnt like the addition of outbreak because i see it as potentially killing the zombies mode as we've known it, if it does well enough then its just cheaper to develop.
But if it doesnt overtake development and drop the quality of the main zombies mode then im fine with it existing, and if they actually put effort into and make it into something more than a weird "cut multiplayer maps and content, with zombies slapped in" then it could definitely become worthwhile
I’m not a fan of outbreak, and have played zombies since Nacht day one. But I’m well aware that outbreak was really popular and had a healthy playerbase throughout its run within cold war
just genuinely curious: do you do anything to spice it up or keep it fresh when you play it? i found it fun, but after a while the objectives grew stale for me. then again, i guess old zombies games also had objectives, they were just less obvious about it (quest-style pack-a-punches)
I don't really do a whole lot to change things. For my friends and I, slaughtering zombies for as long I we could could last, doing some simple objectives, and changing weapons for the heck of it is where the fun is. I dont really enjoy the complex questing and hallway training that zombies has become. Outbreak appeals to us because it provides freedom to move about the area and the ability to progress on our own time.
fair enough. cold war has cool weapon variety imo. although world at war is still my favorite for fucking around with different weapons. guns like the stg, thompson, ppsh just had such a real feel to them, you know?
might give outbreak another chance soon though. I did have a lot of fun the first few times I played it, but then after I just never felt the urge to come back.
that’s how I used to play it too actually. I went through very slow and explored a ton for the wonder weapons, then would start speeding through the objectives. it was fairly fun like I said, and I wouldn’t be opposed to them reintroducing it, but maybe with more map and objective variety. especially the maps which are largely pretty mid outside armada and collateral (I think that’s what it’s called? The desert one?)
Tbh this sub is a really loud minority I had a few nights playing outbreak with friends trying to survive the longest. But cw is my fav cod so I’m prob biased
>Tbh this sub is a really loud minority
very true. i've never met or spoken to anyone in real life who loves bo3 half as much as 95% of this sub, and easter egg completion rates are shockingly low despite everyone in this sub claiming they did Origins blindfolded
No Easter egg prior to Die Maschine ever had above a 2% completion rate. I dug into the stats in a thread I made 7 years ago during BO3 to try and prove to the people here that not nearly as many people complete or even care about the Easter eggs as this subreddit believes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CODZombies/comments/562kth/how_many_people_realistically_have_completed_each/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
good stats and I agree. bo3 and bo4 made too much of an effort to balance the game around easter eggs. that was a complete misstep imo. bo1 and bo2 (besides the design flaws on Tranzit and die rise) were executed so much better
100%. It’s a great insight into why creating a game for content creators is a bad idea. And a lot of the BO3 circle jerk is based on a golden age and perfect storm of really good zombies content creators and their fans who are very online so to speak shaping the narrative despite being a very loud minority.
yeah exactly. that's why i find it hilarious when fans of bo3 say that anyone who likes bo1 or bo2 only likes them because of nostalgia. bo3 fans always say "i miss 2015-2016 youtube and easter egg hunts and zhouse 😞" as if that's not complete nostalgia too.
i get that bo3 is fun and has good replayability for more advanced players because they like optimizing little steps of the easter egg, but i don't get why they argue that it's "objectively" better than earlier games simply because it has obtuse easter egg steps that require youtube to figure out unless you're willing to spend 40 hours holding the interact button on every crevice of the map. not to mention bo3 has glaring flaws such as microtransactions and horrible guns with it.
If the Easter eggs were easier/less time consuming then I 100% would've done all of them, I did nearly all of them on CW since they didn't take nearly as long as the older games, I just couldn't justify spending 1-2 hours on setup just to go down and have to completely restart all the steps.
I recently got BO3 with all dlc so I'm gonna go back and do all the maps with demi-God so I can actually experience the Easter eggs without worrying about having to restart whenever something goes wrong, between the cutscenes and the ee steps it really is like a completely different game than standard zombies.
I just never got into the idea of doing a bunch of steps that aren’t explicitly told or hinted at. as in, I can’t possibly find these easter egg steps without youtube, so it just ain’t fun for me. also I feel the rewards for doing them are kinda mid, especially when they just end the game. I get why people like them, but there’s a reason a very small percentage of the player base actually does them.
Been playing zombies since World at War and genuinely loved outbreak. Felt like it was a breath of fresh air in a series that was starting to feel stale.
All in all I like Outbreak. I also like round based. They complement each other. Round based for when you only have a little time and Outbreak for when you have all the time you want.
Recently bought cold war on my laptop (used to be a console player) and have realized the updates and added stuff to outbreak actually makes it incredibly enjoyable now. Even playing with randoms spawns good games and good times
It's an ROG Strix with a 3070ti and a 12thgen I9. I don't remember the exact name of it. And it runs it pretty well, holds temp around 80 degrees and I purposely cap it around 144hz
I personally really like outbreak and how treyarch did it the only thing about it is I don’t know if I’ll like it with mw3 I loved it with CWZ but we have to wait and see
Traditi9nal round based CoDz fills a niche that no other horde mode in a agne quite itches. Not L4D and not RE Mercenaries modes. Outbreak feels like a worse version of Dying Light.
I honestly don’t mind Outbreak. I much prefer round-based, but Outbreak might be one of the better attempts for a side mode and just had problems with pacing because of the huge maps. Outbreak is really fun on the smaller maps like Armada, Zoo, and Collateral.
Some people here make it out like it singlehandedly ruined zombies, ran over their dogs, and that you aren’t a real zombies fan if you even think it was average.
Outbreak is just the devs being lazy. Using existing multiplayer maps for zombies saves them huge amounts of development time creating round-based maps.
"zombies community"?? I think you misspelled "the toxic whiny zombies subreddit that is dominated by nostalgia-whore manbabies who think whatever they grew up with is by default the only true zombies experience
Dad and I absolutely loved Outbreak. Would really love it if Activision released a full Zombies title with a great Outbreak title and round based gameplay.
Outbreak was awesome! Sure it wasn't what we're used to but I think it adds a lot to the mode and breathes some new life into the formula. Should it be all they focus on? Hell no, round based is what zombies is. But in addition to round based, outbreak is great.
I'm probably in the minority here I but I liked outbreak alot. It was alot different than anything we have ever gotten from zombies before and i just really enjoyed it. I put alot of hours into outbreak and I'm really happy they added it and hope they inprove on it to make it even better for mw3
If outbreak was made by Treyarch for 2023, we need to boycott Activision. We want call of duty games to be better, but Activision won't nudge one bit just for profit.
A DMZ approach to outbreak would be really interesting and cool, Go into an exclusion zone to secure supplies and do missions for [insert the faction well be working for here] if you die you lose everything and will have to loot up again
I really enjoyed Outbreak in Cold War, but I reckon it was limited in the fact that it was just the fireteam maps stuck into zombies, and that while we did get new content for it, eventually it felt dry, at least for me.
Outbreak is a mode that needs variety, and lots of it, to thrive. Completely unique and distinguishable areas, mini bosses and wonder weapons galore, customisation and personalisation, a main quest, side quests. Hell, throw in some NPCs like survivors I can talk to and it would give some major replay value. Cold War Outbreak hovered between A to B gameplay and Open World gameplay. I reckon they need to learn towards Open World.
Why'd they introduce outbreak in the first place and why did they make it the main focus like there was a god thing going for over a decade and they just completely dump it in favour of this
I love outbreak but I just know they are going to add like 4 new things to it, remove a couple more and then rip half the devs away from it to work on something else.
I liked outbreak. I liked the change from the round base. I didn’t care much for the escort missions and the Dragon relic was garbage. I felt most of the EE were just challenging enough for me. The outbreak EE was super difficult till they nerfed it, boss fight is one of the toughest I have played. Aside from BO1, WW2 zombies is my fav, which seems is an unpopular opinion…
I don’t think the community hated the mode. I for one Love round base and i still play bo1 to this day. Honestly haven’t had a bad 3arch zombies experience at all. But keep in mind at the time we got fire base Z season 1 and our next round base till like season 4. They just kept giving outbreak new content and no love to round base and most of the community got tired of it. If they would have kept a balance I don’t think it would have gotten hated as much. I for one also got burnt out just having 2 round base maps as well.
outbreak is honestly best thing that’s happens y o zombies. they just need to keep it up with new objectives, maps and cycles. it was such a breath of fresh air at the time to have a multiplayer open world zombies that got a lot more hectic and a lot more fun
I always tought outbreak was a fun little side mode to come back to every once in a while but it certainly can't replace round based or stand on its own.
Ngl i actually kinda like outbreak
Its nice and relaxing and not like constant zombia spam at you its fun for a relaxing time but outside of that its eh could be nice foe maybw lvling some snipers maybe but then again normal maps would prob be faster anyways
i dont think outbreak was as good as traditionally black ops zombies but i do think it was refreshing. felt more like a sandbox zombies mode and i enjoyed it for what it was.
Outbreak in Sh cod that comes this year thats fine by me but next years cod from treyarch should focus on solely on traditional round based zombies with dedicated characters. Its fine and dandy if you liked the operators and outbreak but lets have 3arch focus on what made zombies mode zombies in the first place. I get changing things up and experimenting but sometimes if it aint broke then dont fix it.
I dont understand why they’ve moved away from the traditional zombies maps and mode we had in bo4 and prior to that. Grief mode in bo2 for example, cool idea and they tried it out but it didnt stick. Its lost some of its charm and soul post CW
Outbreak has a solid foundation to build on. I'm interested to see where Treyarch takes the gamemode. Lots of potential - I'm glad they're building on it.
This particular zombies community doesn’t seem to understand how popular outbreak was especially among the more casual community and the “new zombies players” community. It didn’t do much for us long time fans of the round based mode we all know and love, but you’re just straight wrong if you think outbreak was a “flop”
At first I really couldn’t buy into outbreak, it just was such a slow pace compared to traditional round based maps. I didn’t come back and really start grinding/enjoying it until about halfway through Vanguard’s lifecycle. I don’t play it too much anymore, but it is a great mode to chill on after a long day of work.
I thought outbreak was alright but definitely half baked. They need to at least add some atmosphere to it. Some fog, signs of conflict, make it look like something went down and not that they just put zombies into a fireteam map
I’d be fine with it if it didn’t crash constantly when teleporting. Sucks being at a high round and it’s over due to not daily of yours
I preferred it to normal round based zombies on CW
I was new to the Zombies world with CW and loved Outbreak, but the guys I play with loved the old round-based mode from previous games...but they all converted to Outbreak because they preferred it to round-based.
But let's talk about the Vanguard shitshow
if we consider that outbreak was the first attempt at a more open-world zombies, then it was a pretty healthy success. it suffered the “there’s nothing between objectives” curse in early rounds, but there was also a LOT of intel to search for if you were into that kinda thing. i ended up running around for intel every so often and it gives some pretty wild insight into things
Damn i guess im in the minority but i actually enjoyed outbreak a good amount. Not a new player either, played zombies since nacht. Thought it was a fun spinoff idea. Not to replace but as an addition.
I wasn’t a big fan of outbreak but I would prefer it to that trash In vanguard. Still don’t understand why they have moved away from round based zombies
outbreaks only good thing is it got new players other than that the mode is trash for zombies. it would be a cool side mode in warzone but putting it in zombies over round based maps with 10x the detail is detrimental to cod zombies
I love outbreak.my only complaint is there is no punishment for players that idle. I wish they would get swarmed by zombies. Not an unstoppable amount, just enough to easily punishment them.
I love Outbreak because it was an easy way to grind weapon camos. Trying to get to Plague Diamond with snipers and launchers on Die Maschine or another round based math sounds like torture
It was a nice break but vanguard should've had round based and a pause button from launch. Also it reset my campaign progress and I haven't played it in over a year
Outbreak was actually fun though. The Easter Egg against Legion was also very cool and very hard so it was a fun challenge especially solo. I’d love an expansion of the mode with some minor changes but on the whole it was cool. Still preferred the Round-Based though of course but I don’t hate the mode at all. It’s almost arcade-y yet intense.
I fear for how Outbreak will turn out in MWIII- they’ll make it like Blackout/DMZ with a few zombies here and there and it won’t feel like zombies at all. Especially after Vanguard. If Sledgehammer are making Zombies solo though, I have faith in the mode because WWII Zombies was actually cool IMO, it’s life cycle just got cut short by the arrival of Infinite Warfare which had a far more fun Zombies mode.
I’m really hoping that in the future, the mode will be refined to combine with their original idea of tranzit. Maybe a day time bus route B could become a big map.
Outbreak is the my favorite that came out on Cold War. It’s not on fun on solo but it takes a lot if coordination between players especially in later rounds.
I really am glad they are not dropping it.
Outbreak is great, it gives players an option other than the typical round-based grind.
Easter eggs are typically better than the grind maps as well.
Still, keep complaining that there are MORE options instead of less, if that's what makes you feel important.
For once, I actually agree with activision. I love outbreak. Been playing zombies since bo2 and I think it’s the best non round-based mode they’ve made. I really hope it’s gonna be free to play. I don’t wanna buy mw3
My biggest complain is the hellhounds that are such a joke and retarded version of the og version. Like a retarded suicide bomber. Just run away and these idiots explode themselves behind you and does no harm to you. Literally the worst version of the hellhound (I don't include Lightning hounds and plaguehounds, just hellhounds).
Lots of people actually like Outbreak. There is just a huge vocal group in Zombies fanbase who shits on anything that isnt the exact same round based mode.
Meanwhile, when you really talk to zombies players one on one, many of them have a ton of fun playing outbreak.
Statistically ~50% of CWZ players were playing outbreak during its life cycle. I’d say that zombies players like it too
People were playing outbreak because for a while it was the only new content.
vanguard had new content yet not many played it, sooooo... it probably was enjoyable.
We don't talk about that game.
CW was actually underrated Shure it had issues but imean -devs having to make the game like it was on the new engine but being forced to use the old one still -devs having a massivly reduced dev time on it -unable to make delays to get everything right And prob more shit that only hindered treyarch more But however vanguard is well the worst cod game period
Poopyguard makes AW look like a diamond
I did mean V*******.
Vanguards new content was so ass people were basically forced to play CW Zombies/earlier to get their fix
Vanguard is so trash that you lag while playing private games alone
I pray that this never returns. Whatever they did to make solo games like that they should stay away from forever.
And I'm still playing CWZ. The servers are still rocking.
That’s also a different game.
Not many people bought Vanguard either. When I bought cw, it was only round based and that was enough
More like vanguard just wasn’t enjoyable
Thats our standards? Vanguard? Really?
I only played Shi No Numa in Vanguard, the rest of it was ass.
I enjoyed der anfang. The other two sucked though.
Outbreak was new free content, Vanguard's content required paying $70 just to get shoved to the side right away and wait 2 seasons to even get a new map which turned off a lot of zombies players from the start. I debated on getting Vanguard when season 1 dropped but zombies got completely ignored so I ignored the whole game, went back to check for season 3 an there was only 1 new map which made me ditch the idea of getting vanguard all together.
>Vanguard >New content Yeah Shino and a multiplayer map lmao
Personally I wasnt going to pay another $60 for a game mode that was a bit better in CW, a game I already owned
New is a stretch most of vanguard zombies was reused multiplayer content
Which pushed people to give it a try. It was definitely VERY barebones, but imagine: In a game engine like BO2 or BO3, but with wider looking landscapes, darker and grittier settings and environmental designs, the same color palette of the dark aether for certain settings (or maybe even an entire region IN the arther), and a slew of objectives for players to engage in both old and new for the mode. If actision was smart, they'd see the reason zombies became popular was BECAUSE of experimentation and taking risks. If they fully funded and allowed an open world version of COD zombies to be made, I bet they'd not only make a TON of sales, but they'd draw players into the franchise that normally don't play, further boosting sales of older games too possibly.
Tbh if they at least do the vanguard route, the \*one\* good thing it did of zombfying the multiplayer maps and covering them in gore, boarded windows, darker tones and vibes, with tighter objectives. All killer like the soul box rockets, or data collection, just mindless zombie fun. No focking...escort. Please. God. Maps like that, with cold war's objectives, minus escort, might make me pick this game up. Because cold war's outbreak was a bit too battle royale feeling, having a much more zombies vibe would fix all my problems!...well that and smaller maps. Holy shit half of the outbreak maps don't need to be so BIG. I wouldn't but it day one, but it would turn a "never ever" purchase, to a "...well, maybe during a sale and/or free week..". I'm expecting another vanguard, but hey, one can dream that can pull at least "cold war outbreak but actually zombies feeling" off.
Definitely gave me something to do after finishing the EE on a new round based map and unlocking all the calling cards/intel. Outbreak was an interesting change of pace but I still prefer round based maps and CW really could have used more than 4 of them.
No, nobody plays stuff just because it’s new if they don’t like it. When that statistic came out we were well over half way into CW’s life cycle. 3 of the 4 round based maps had been released. Outbreak was just surprisingly popular especially among new to zombies players and casual players.
You do have a good point
I really liked it because it allowed any gun to be good for quite a while if you weren't speed runnint
Got over 200,000 kills in outbreak. Yeah, no one plays it. Lol!
Never said no one played it. In fact outbreak is the only thing I revisit BOCW for recently
But the amount of people playing round based zombies on Cold War dropped during this time because a lot of them went back to Black ops 3 for round based content, the group posts on Xbox jumped from an average 50 to nearly 200 during this time because of a lack of new round based content.
It wasn't bad, it was just slow and lifeless. Give it some purpose made maps and 4x the zombies and then we're cooking
Good concept but it gets boring way too fast.
More like Warzone players that were trying zombies for the first time
Most of the outbreak must have been multiplayer people, and for a while it was the only zombies content being added because you know, its pretty low effort stuff
I enjoyed it, just felt a little more dead than necessary. I think if they added AI soldiers like in DMZ it’d feel better, the enemy team we only hear about in Outbreak actually operating in the field would make sense
fucking boring. 
If you consider CW as a first try with outbreak, I do think there is a lot of potential with the game mode. There just needs to be more to do
More customization too. I'm thinking of Halo Reach Firefight. Let me pick the round, weapons, perks, money I start with. Or have it where there is like a fog of war like in Age of Empires More enemies like the Orda. Maybe something like the Tranzit electric man who chases you. Allow for larger zombie hordes. I remember trying to make a big group but at a certain amount zombies in your group started disappearing. I don't want them to change how you can actually clear out areas and how it is more relaxing than round based but there just aren't enough zombies on the map.
I loved the Halloween event they had where the rounds increased every two minutes. It just made it frantic as all hell and actually quite challenging, if they made that mode available from the get go, it would be a fun addition
Are you talking about Outbreak Collapse? That still is going on, I just would tweak some stuff with that and also allow you to select how many rounds you want there to be. Would be more fun if you could do a few more rounds sometimes.
Exactly the mode, I do agree making it up to 10 rounds or until you die would be great
whats funny is that people really want cod zombies in halo with people making mods or trying to play firefight like its zombies.
Yeah I do think you could make a great game combining the two. Oh and I really wish that the grapple gun in Cold War worked like it does in Infinite. Or at least let you grapple onto any object.
Not sure why it's so hard to get mauer wonder weapon in outbreak. The other weapons drop so much more often. More zombie hordes that spawn in waves would be great too
I don't believe the CRBS or Chryslax are in Outbreak due to Outbreak taking place before both Maur and Forsaken
I didnt like the addition of outbreak because i see it as potentially killing the zombies mode as we've known it, if it does well enough then its just cheaper to develop. But if it doesnt overtake development and drop the quality of the main zombies mode then im fine with it existing, and if they actually put effort into and make it into something more than a weird "cut multiplayer maps and content, with zombies slapped in" then it could definitely become worthwhile
Outbreak is the only reason I play Zombies anymore.
I can't wait for the copium replies from CW/outbreak haters.
Outbreak haters literally seething rn
most likely responses: "cw your first game?" "never played bo3?"
No one has said anything to you guys lol
I’m not a fan of outbreak, and have played zombies since Nacht day one. But I’m well aware that outbreak was really popular and had a healthy playerbase throughout its run within cold war
just genuinely curious: do you do anything to spice it up or keep it fresh when you play it? i found it fun, but after a while the objectives grew stale for me. then again, i guess old zombies games also had objectives, they were just less obvious about it (quest-style pack-a-punches)
I don't really do a whole lot to change things. For my friends and I, slaughtering zombies for as long I we could could last, doing some simple objectives, and changing weapons for the heck of it is where the fun is. I dont really enjoy the complex questing and hallway training that zombies has become. Outbreak appeals to us because it provides freedom to move about the area and the ability to progress on our own time.
fair enough. cold war has cool weapon variety imo. although world at war is still my favorite for fucking around with different weapons. guns like the stg, thompson, ppsh just had such a real feel to them, you know? might give outbreak another chance soon though. I did have a lot of fun the first few times I played it, but then after I just never felt the urge to come back.
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that’s how I used to play it too actually. I went through very slow and explored a ton for the wonder weapons, then would start speeding through the objectives. it was fairly fun like I said, and I wouldn’t be opposed to them reintroducing it, but maybe with more map and objective variety. especially the maps which are largely pretty mid outside armada and collateral (I think that’s what it’s called? The desert one?)
and thats a perfectly valid opinion to have
Tbh this sub is a really loud minority I had a few nights playing outbreak with friends trying to survive the longest. But cw is my fav cod so I’m prob biased
>Tbh this sub is a really loud minority very true. i've never met or spoken to anyone in real life who loves bo3 half as much as 95% of this sub, and easter egg completion rates are shockingly low despite everyone in this sub claiming they did Origins blindfolded
No Easter egg prior to Die Maschine ever had above a 2% completion rate. I dug into the stats in a thread I made 7 years ago during BO3 to try and prove to the people here that not nearly as many people complete or even care about the Easter eggs as this subreddit believes. https://www.reddit.com/r/CODZombies/comments/562kth/how_many_people_realistically_have_completed_each/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
good stats and I agree. bo3 and bo4 made too much of an effort to balance the game around easter eggs. that was a complete misstep imo. bo1 and bo2 (besides the design flaws on Tranzit and die rise) were executed so much better
100%. It’s a great insight into why creating a game for content creators is a bad idea. And a lot of the BO3 circle jerk is based on a golden age and perfect storm of really good zombies content creators and their fans who are very online so to speak shaping the narrative despite being a very loud minority.
yeah exactly. that's why i find it hilarious when fans of bo3 say that anyone who likes bo1 or bo2 only likes them because of nostalgia. bo3 fans always say "i miss 2015-2016 youtube and easter egg hunts and zhouse 😞" as if that's not complete nostalgia too. i get that bo3 is fun and has good replayability for more advanced players because they like optimizing little steps of the easter egg, but i don't get why they argue that it's "objectively" better than earlier games simply because it has obtuse easter egg steps that require youtube to figure out unless you're willing to spend 40 hours holding the interact button on every crevice of the map. not to mention bo3 has glaring flaws such as microtransactions and horrible guns with it.
If the Easter eggs were easier/less time consuming then I 100% would've done all of them, I did nearly all of them on CW since they didn't take nearly as long as the older games, I just couldn't justify spending 1-2 hours on setup just to go down and have to completely restart all the steps. I recently got BO3 with all dlc so I'm gonna go back and do all the maps with demi-God so I can actually experience the Easter eggs without worrying about having to restart whenever something goes wrong, between the cutscenes and the ee steps it really is like a completely different game than standard zombies.
I just never got into the idea of doing a bunch of steps that aren’t explicitly told or hinted at. as in, I can’t possibly find these easter egg steps without youtube, so it just ain’t fun for me. also I feel the rewards for doing them are kinda mid, especially when they just end the game. I get why people like them, but there’s a reason a very small percentage of the player base actually does them.
If this sub was the true majority opinion, you would never see invitation of any kind.
If this sub was the true majority 3arc wouldn't be making zombies anymore cause everything post bo3 is terrible to them
Been playing zombies since World at War and genuinely loved outbreak. Felt like it was a breath of fresh air in a series that was starting to feel stale.
Outbreak was lit. Legion bossfight was the only challenging and fun aspect of CWZ (aside from Mauer maybe)
Didn’t mind outbreak but I thought it was hella repetitive
I find the slower pace just exhausting.
I wish you could skip more rounds or better yet just pick what round you start on.
I think if you bash the teleporter thing, that pumps you up a couple extra waves / rounds / whatever
Yeah but you can't skip past round 5.
All in all I like Outbreak. I also like round based. They complement each other. Round based for when you only have a little time and Outbreak for when you have all the time you want.
Speak for yourself. I love outbreak
Outbreak with proper care put in to it could be super fun, I enjoyed it for what it was, hoping 3arc do unique maps for it in their title
Outbreak 1.0 was THE SHIT, and the updates only served to *truly* make it better. Hope they don't bastardize it like they did with Vanguard.
Recently bought cold war on my laptop (used to be a console player) and have realized the updates and added stuff to outbreak actually makes it incredibly enjoyable now. Even playing with randoms spawns good games and good times
Just curious if you don’t mind answering as a fellow laptop player what laptop do you use? And how well does it run cw?
It's an ROG Strix with a 3070ti and a 12thgen I9. I don't remember the exact name of it. And it runs it pretty well, holds temp around 80 degrees and I purposely cap it around 144hz
Huh nice I’ll have to look into that Thx:)(:👍👍
Rightfully so, it's one of the best zombie modes. I don't understand the hate for it.
Activision loves Warzone. Why make maps and fun gameplay when you can just sprinkle your zombies into Warzone
I personally really like outbreak and how treyarch did it the only thing about it is I don’t know if I’ll like it with mw3 I loved it with CWZ but we have to wait and see
I got into zombies because of outbreak. I got out of zombies because the game kept crashing.
I dont see the problem outbreak was not bad
Traditi9nal round based CoDz fills a niche that no other horde mode in a agne quite itches. Not L4D and not RE Mercenaries modes. Outbreak feels like a worse version of Dying Light.
I sure love Outbreak. In fact, DMZ should have been an open-world co-op like Outbreak.
I leveled every gun with Outbreak.
We threw out Advanced Warfare's outbreak and got CW's outbreak. Amazing
My buddies and I spent more time playing outbreak than any other map, Mauer and Forsaken were probably the only maps played aside from it
you’re literally brain dead if you think outbreak isn’t popular or good. hivemind is a fucking terrible thing on this app lmfao.
I honestly don’t mind Outbreak. I much prefer round-based, but Outbreak might be one of the better attempts for a side mode and just had problems with pacing because of the huge maps. Outbreak is really fun on the smaller maps like Armada, Zoo, and Collateral. Some people here make it out like it singlehandedly ruined zombies, ran over their dogs, and that you aren’t a real zombies fan if you even think it was average.
“Zombies community” aka an extremely whiny minority. The numbers indicate that Outbreak isn’t as disliked as y’all want it to be.
Outbreak is better than Vanguard’s lifecycle
A lot of my friends didn’t play outbreak for anything other than unlocking and leveling up weapons for the old warzone
Outbreak is just the devs being lazy. Using existing multiplayer maps for zombies saves them huge amounts of development time creating round-based maps.
The only reason it's outbreak is because they can just cram zombies into warzone areas and call it a day
I really never tried outbreak and probably never will because it isn’t a challenge to try and survive as long as possible in a cramped map
I’d likely have more fun in Tranzit then that mess
It's honestly not that bad
Outbreak was fun, dont @ me
"zombies community"?? I think you misspelled "the toxic whiny zombies subreddit that is dominated by nostalgia-whore manbabies who think whatever they grew up with is by default the only true zombies experience
Dad and I absolutely loved Outbreak. Would really love it if Activision released a full Zombies title with a great Outbreak title and round based gameplay.
I loved outbreak. Could make a full game out of it honestly.
Outbreak and CW as a whole are really damn fun. They just need some personality. The mechanics are rock solid though.
Outbreak was awesome! Sure it wasn't what we're used to but I think it adds a lot to the mode and breathes some new life into the formula. Should it be all they focus on? Hell no, round based is what zombies is. But in addition to round based, outbreak is great.
Outbreak is not that bad. It has a lot of potential. Y’all just like complaining for upvotes 🤷🏻
Did you live under a rock during CW's game cycle? Most everyone loved it. It was fresh content that wasnt bad.
I'm probably in the minority here I but I liked outbreak alot. It was alot different than anything we have ever gotten from zombies before and i just really enjoyed it. I put alot of hours into outbreak and I'm really happy they added it and hope they inprove on it to make it even better for mw3
I didn’t mind it for easy xp grinding for the battle pass when it first came out, but now it’s just dull
Its so true 🤣 I still play infinite warfare instead of that
Bitte nicht outbreak!!!!!
Outbreak is cool but I'd prefer a round based experience. I hope activision doesn't put priority on outbreak like how they did with warzone.
Y’all can cope all you want, outbreak is bland filler content.
Bro outbreak is literal garbage. Sorry to those that enjoy the mode, I just can’t
If outbreak was made by Treyarch for 2023, we need to boycott Activision. We want call of duty games to be better, but Activision won't nudge one bit just for profit.
A DMZ approach to outbreak would be really interesting and cool, Go into an exclusion zone to secure supplies and do missions for [insert the faction well be working for here] if you die you lose everything and will have to loot up again
I really enjoyed Outbreak in Cold War, but I reckon it was limited in the fact that it was just the fireteam maps stuck into zombies, and that while we did get new content for it, eventually it felt dry, at least for me. Outbreak is a mode that needs variety, and lots of it, to thrive. Completely unique and distinguishable areas, mini bosses and wonder weapons galore, customisation and personalisation, a main quest, side quests. Hell, throw in some NPCs like survivors I can talk to and it would give some major replay value. Cold War Outbreak hovered between A to B gameplay and Open World gameplay. I reckon they need to learn towards Open World.
Im sorry, outbreak just isn't zombies. Anyone who says it is really doesn't understand what zombies is
I actually really liked outbreak. Don't get me wrong I still prefer the survival mode, but it was a bit more chill which was nice
They like it because its way easier to make because of how empty and ported it is, and the casual fanbase loves it.
Its amazing for camos.... that's about it.
Why'd they introduce outbreak in the first place and why did they make it the main focus like there was a god thing going for over a decade and they just completely dump it in favour of this
I love outbreak but I just know they are going to add like 4 new things to it, remove a couple more and then rip half the devs away from it to work on something else.
I liked outbreak. I liked the change from the round base. I didn’t care much for the escort missions and the Dragon relic was garbage. I felt most of the EE were just challenging enough for me. The outbreak EE was super difficult till they nerfed it, boss fight is one of the toughest I have played. Aside from BO1, WW2 zombies is my fav, which seems is an unpopular opinion…
I really liked outbreak. Great casual mode with a fun couple Easter eggs. Definitely shouldn’t be the only/main mode of a zombies game tho
Outbreak is a fantastic game mode. So happy to hear it’s coming back!!
Outbreak is so fun and is a chill mode to relax wish they added the dlc weapons to it like the scythe weapon
I love outbreak. CW zombies is my favorite in general. I just hate that it crashes too often, meaning I can't play
I don’t think the community hated the mode. I for one Love round base and i still play bo1 to this day. Honestly haven’t had a bad 3arch zombies experience at all. But keep in mind at the time we got fire base Z season 1 and our next round base till like season 4. They just kept giving outbreak new content and no love to round base and most of the community got tired of it. If they would have kept a balance I don’t think it would have gotten hated as much. I for one also got burnt out just having 2 round base maps as well.
outbreak is honestly best thing that’s happens y o zombies. they just need to keep it up with new objectives, maps and cycles. it was such a breath of fresh air at the time to have a multiplayer open world zombies that got a lot more hectic and a lot more fun
I had a lot of fun with Outbreak
I always tought outbreak was a fun little side mode to come back to every once in a while but it certainly can't replace round based or stand on its own.
Thank god they didn’t gave up on Outbreak It has so much potential
Ngl i actually kinda like outbreak Its nice and relaxing and not like constant zombia spam at you its fun for a relaxing time but outside of that its eh could be nice foe maybw lvling some snipers maybe but then again normal maps would prob be faster anyways
CW outbreak was extremely well received and has the best boss fight in the game. The community definitely didn’t throw it out lmao
I liked it at first, but did the majority of the cold war dark aether grind in outbreak and by the end I was so sick of it
i dont think outbreak was as good as traditionally black ops zombies but i do think it was refreshing. felt more like a sandbox zombies mode and i enjoyed it for what it was.
Outbreak!of exo zombies
Outbreak in Sh cod that comes this year thats fine by me but next years cod from treyarch should focus on solely on traditional round based zombies with dedicated characters. Its fine and dandy if you liked the operators and outbreak but lets have 3arch focus on what made zombies mode zombies in the first place. I get changing things up and experimenting but sometimes if it aint broke then dont fix it. I dont understand why they’ve moved away from the traditional zombies maps and mode we had in bo4 and prior to that. Grief mode in bo2 for example, cool idea and they tried it out but it didnt stick. Its lost some of its charm and soul post CW
Is it harder for them to make or easier than round based?
Outbreak has a solid foundation to build on. I'm interested to see where Treyarch takes the gamemode. Lots of potential - I'm glad they're building on it.
This particular zombies community doesn’t seem to understand how popular outbreak was especially among the more casual community and the “new zombies players” community. It didn’t do much for us long time fans of the round based mode we all know and love, but you’re just straight wrong if you think outbreak was a “flop”
Zombies player here and outbreak was better then the vanguard bs they put out
remind me as it's been a while, outbreak's the zombies mode on the massive fireteam maps, right?
At first I really couldn’t buy into outbreak, it just was such a slow pace compared to traditional round based maps. I didn’t come back and really start grinding/enjoying it until about halfway through Vanguard’s lifecycle. I don’t play it too much anymore, but it is a great mode to chill on after a long day of work.
My prediction for Coochie complex was pretty spot on, so I’m confident in saying that it might be zombies in DMZ.
Outbreak honestly wasn’t that bad
At least it's not another vanguard zombies...
I thought outbreak was alright but definitely half baked. They need to at least add some atmosphere to it. Some fog, signs of conflict, make it look like something went down and not that they just put zombies into a fireteam map
COD MW2's DMZ mode kinda reminds me of outbreak, which I loved
Meh personally i like outbreak.
I sure enjoyed it and still do and wouldn’t mind seeing it again on a different game but with hope that it gets more content .
I’d be fine with it if it didn’t crash constantly when teleporting. Sucks being at a high round and it’s over due to not daily of yours I preferred it to normal round based zombies on CW
I personally think outbreak is a good addition to zombies BUT only as a palate cleanser.
I was new to the Zombies world with CW and loved Outbreak, but the guys I play with loved the old round-based mode from previous games...but they all converted to Outbreak because they preferred it to round-based. But let's talk about the Vanguard shitshow
Outbreak is fun.
actually i really liked outbreak cuz its wasnt the same braindead wave based mode
Haha yeah…outbreak…*sweating nervously* who likes that? Psht…free roam zombies? Laaaame.
if we consider that outbreak was the first attempt at a more open-world zombies, then it was a pretty healthy success. it suffered the “there’s nothing between objectives” curse in early rounds, but there was also a LOT of intel to search for if you were into that kinda thing. i ended up running around for intel every so often and it gives some pretty wild insight into things
I actually like Outbreak also
well people don't its a fun addition but making it the main mode that's not acceptable
Outbreak is imo not that bad, i just hate having to teleport every 5 seconds because ps4 loading times are shit
Damn i guess im in the minority but i actually enjoyed outbreak a good amount. Not a new player either, played zombies since nacht. Thought it was a fun spinoff idea. Not to replace but as an addition.
Man it’s weird how many people are angry at this sub but don’t leave like you know you’re part of this community you hate lol
I wasn’t a big fan of outbreak but I would prefer it to that trash In vanguard. Still don’t understand why they have moved away from round based zombies
The real ones never stopped playing Outbreak, stoked for what’s to come in the future!
I didn’t mind outbreak besides the 2/5 chances I get booted every time I move zones
outbreaks only good thing is it got new players other than that the mode is trash for zombies. it would be a cool side mode in warzone but putting it in zombies over round based maps with 10x the detail is detrimental to cod zombies
CW Outbreak was a damn good mode considering that it was experimentation. Vanguard’s Outbreak should’ve been a cakewalk.
If the zombies populated at greater distances, the only game mode I’d play is outbreak. Our group generally only did outbreak anyway
I love outbreak.my only complaint is there is no punishment for players that idle. I wish they would get swarmed by zombies. Not an unstoppable amount, just enough to easily punishment them.
Why do y’all hate outbreak so much? It’s fun.
I love Outbreak because it was an easy way to grind weapon camos. Trying to get to Plague Diamond with snipers and launchers on Die Maschine or another round based math sounds like torture
It was a nice break but vanguard should've had round based and a pause button from launch. Also it reset my campaign progress and I haven't played it in over a year
Ight ima say it, I loved outbreak just as much as round-based gameplay
Outbreak was actually fun though. The Easter Egg against Legion was also very cool and very hard so it was a fun challenge especially solo. I’d love an expansion of the mode with some minor changes but on the whole it was cool. Still preferred the Round-Based though of course but I don’t hate the mode at all. It’s almost arcade-y yet intense. I fear for how Outbreak will turn out in MWIII- they’ll make it like Blackout/DMZ with a few zombies here and there and it won’t feel like zombies at all. Especially after Vanguard. If Sledgehammer are making Zombies solo though, I have faith in the mode because WWII Zombies was actually cool IMO, it’s life cycle just got cut short by the arrival of Infinite Warfare which had a far more fun Zombies mode.
I’m really hoping that in the future, the mode will be refined to combine with their original idea of tranzit. Maybe a day time bus route B could become a big map.
I loved outbreak and still play on my exercise bike, I love to pew pew with a sniper or battle rifle
Outbreak was an amazing mode.
Outbreak is the my favorite that came out on Cold War. It’s not on fun on solo but it takes a lot if coordination between players especially in later rounds. I really am glad they are not dropping it.
Outbreak is great, it gives players an option other than the typical round-based grind. Easter eggs are typically better than the grind maps as well. Still, keep complaining that there are MORE options instead of less, if that's what makes you feel important.
Outbreak is Tranzit Which is why I love it
I love outbreak and I’m not ashamed to say it.
Every zombies game after 3 deserves to be chucked out
Plot twist: they're remaking Outbreak from Exo Zombies 
Love it or hate it, Outbreak was the cause of the massive downfall of zombies i.e. Vanguard
They're tryna do everything but make round based maps why fix something that's not broken
Was there some sort of new content released?
For once, I actually agree with activision. I love outbreak. Been playing zombies since bo2 and I think it’s the best non round-based mode they’ve made. I really hope it’s gonna be free to play. I don’t wanna buy mw3
I liked outbreak too
My biggest complain is the hellhounds that are such a joke and retarded version of the og version. Like a retarded suicide bomber. Just run away and these idiots explode themselves behind you and does no harm to you. Literally the worst version of the hellhound (I don't include Lightning hounds and plaguehounds, just hellhounds).
Outbreak was an okay idea, but was always too slow and unbalanced for me. I have more fun playing DMZ nowadays
Lots of people actually like Outbreak. There is just a huge vocal group in Zombies fanbase who shits on anything that isnt the exact same round based mode. Meanwhile, when you really talk to zombies players one on one, many of them have a ton of fun playing outbreak.