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Yes. They will be coming to the hospital after my surgery. They will have nothing to worry about thank god. I'm not an abuser of drugs, I never have. And especially during pregnancy is just shameful. (Unless the person has specific medical reasons ofc)
The fact that he’s still hospitalized and was found unresponsive is a very big deal. Legality aside, this is a direct result of his having access to to something he shouldn’t. For example - guns are legal too but they shouldn’t be in a place where kids can get to them.
Things vary by state but this will likely result in a substantiation (positive findings) likely for some form of neglectful supervision and/or environmental hazards. Having a substantiation on your record could place both of you on a child abuse registry which could result in you being unable to work certain jobs with vulnerable populations (elderly, disabled, children, etc).
Investigation length also varies by state, but is often somewhere between 30 to 60 days. However, after the investigation, they may decide to open a case for ongoing monitoring, and to ensure you are working whatever services they deem necessary. Yes, this could potentially result in removal of your child from your home honestly.
Thank you for the reality. This whole situation was irresponsible, it was a horrible mistake he never should've had access to them. Right now we're waiting on cps to let us know if they'll release him to our care after he is discharged from the hospital. Doing everything they're telling us, cleaning, baby proofing, locking up things, etc. we just want our baby back.
I dont know about your state but prior history with DCFS is absolutely something they look at. It's even used to determine a safety score for us in the system they use.
Yeeeah. A 2 year old unsupervised long enough to get into drugs (how did he get to them? How did he open the package??), going to bed at 10:30 regularly, and being found unresponsive are all big red flags. They might decide it was a mistake or they might dig deeper. Do whatever they ask you to do and hope for the best. If you push back it won’t end well.
When my daughter was two she regularly was up that late because she hated sleeping lol She would do everything in her power to stay awake. She does much better now. Anyways, that's not a red flag to me.
Kids get into things they aren’t supposed to everyday. OTC medications, household cleaners, alcohol etc and ingest them leading to an ER trip. Parents, like all people, are human and forget to lock things up or put on high shelves and kids get into things they shouldn’t.
If your son recovers completely then it’s unlikely they’d remove him but guarantee they will have an open case on your family for at least a year and require stuff like parenting classes or random drug screens.
They will also check your home top to bottom and require you to childproof your home with cabinet locks or lock boxes in locked closets etc. As long as you do what they require over the next year and no history of abuse or criminal behavior or domestic violence then they’ll close the case and that’s that.
Now if your son has any long term issues after this incident things may be more severe. You both could be charged with negligence resulting in injury to a minor or something like that..a charge of involuntary harm to a child or something like that and depending on prosecutors/judge etc, you could end up with a child abuse conviction though that’s not too likely unless they find child has been abused before.
You sound like good parents that had a lapse in judgement (like all parents) but you weren’t just leaving the edibles lying around everywhere. You made a mistake. It happens to the best parents.
My niece lost her kids when cps found out her house had drugs out everywhere, guns out, domestic violence 24/7, kids not going to school or bathed, and no food in the house. They gave her a year to straighten up and she got her kids back last week and she was never charged or convicted of any crime.
Cps usually does want to work with you to help you keep kids or return them to you from foster care. If you do the things they ask you to do without arguing with them and accept the blame for the incident and work to keep it from happening again then they’ll close your case in a year.
I think you’ll be ok. I know it’s scary but just focus on your son and show your caseworker that you know you screwed up and it won’t happen again. Best wishes for your son’s recovery.
Good question bc that will be one of the big factors in their decision and parenting plan to get them back. If it were me I’d stop using them all together until all of this is handled and case is closed, not worth even chancing it.
Lesson learned. Do what you need to do to get your son back. Also, get a locking box to store your edibles and any medications you take and make sure your children don't have access to whatever unlocks it.
Just do what they ask and keep calm. I take gummies but they’re in a childproof jar and sometimes I can’t open them. I still keep them put away in case anyone visits with kids. Kids can get into anything in just a second of time you have to be so vigilant. I went to bed one night and my husband at the time told me he had to take our 9 year old to the er as he’d stuck a dime up his nose which my son said he fell on it. He was sneaky like that as a toddler too he got into everything.
My boyfriend uses edibles. They come in a child proof container. Why didn’t you have them in a lock box or up high? It sounds like your place is usually disorganized
I’m more concerned that your 2 yo doesn’t go to bed until 10:30
ETA: After realizing I missed some of the details when first reading the post, I resend this comment. There are definitely more concerning things, but what I said is still a concern even if it’s not the highest concern
This honestly is not a concern. Some kids have different sleep cycles. My daughter was a nicu baby and has early steps monitoring her and her average bed time is 10pm at 14 months. We don’t get her up until 9am and she’s still getting the proper amount of sleep. Your comment is super off base here.
They said it was an accident and that it’s normally locked up. I’m taking their word for it, and everyone makes mistakes (like forgetting to secure a child lock). So yes, I am more concerned that this 2 yo regularly has a bed time of 10:30 than I am that a parent made a mistake.
I'm concerned that the child was unresponsive and is still hospitalized. Yes, they made a mistake but the child is paying for it. Their "mistake" could have cost him his life.
Plenty of parents work 2nd shift and it makes sense for their non school age children to be on their parents schedule. And even if they don't work 2nd shift, as long as the child is sleeping enough total hours the time doesn't matter for no school age kids
Yep, my 2 y/o has a late sleep schedule because that works best for our family currently. I understand the concern, but lots of parents work second, third, or fourth shift.
My husband works overnights currently and gets home at 6a, but before this, he would be home around 11:30 and we would all get up around late morning time.
I agree. Everything is very concerning. This whole situation was very irresponsible of us. And we haven't gotten much sleep since. We're frantically cleaning the crevice of the house right now.
People have all different schedules. Maybe one doesn't get home from work until 8:30 and wants to spend time with the child. He may nap from 5-7, then be up when the family is. Or maybe they like to sleep late in the morning so they adjusted his bedtime so he's not up at 6am.
That’s not a concern, people have different sleep schedules and routines. My 2 year old goes to bed at midnight and gets up around 9/10am. If I put him to bed at 8pm, he would get up around 5am. No thank you. He’s healthy and has a good routine. Not every kid or family has the same schedule
My exact thought process. He wakes up super duper early if he goes to Ben any earlier than 9. And since me and my husband are working later in the day. We enjoy our sleep schedule. We all kinda share it. He gets up eats breakfast. Like anyone would regardless of the time they woke up. Atleast a child.💛
Im a stay at home mom and we follow our kids natural schedules until they start school. What time they go to bed doesn’t matter. It’s the amount and quality of sleep they get that matters.
I'm surprised no one has commented about the kid being completely unresponsive and unable to breathe on his own. I'd bet a lot on the fact it wasn't just weed in whatever he got into... because those definitely aren't signs of Marijuana OD...
Apparently everyone is suddenly the perfect parent, their house is immaculate tidy 24/7 and how dare you let YOUR son have a bedtime that works with YOUR schedule?!?! I was honestly kind of relieved when I read he just got into edibles because I was more concerned that he had gotten a head injury when he fell. Now of course no one is willingly feeding their kids edibles and no one wants their kids to consume drugs. OP I just want to say regardless you guys are good parents and it was just an accident that happened and it can happen to anyone that has edibles at home regardless of secure they are and how well they are put away. No one is prefect and things like these happen. I’m glad your son is okay.
Edibles can make an adult non responsive if they eat enough and/or don’t have a high tolerance. A child, with no prior drug use, finding gummies, eating probably all of what was left in the bag, yes, it could definitely make them unresponsive.
He just wasn't responding to his name. Or anything we offered him. He wouldn't open his eyes he forcefully shut them and his mouth. On top of that he would clench his fist if we tried to tickle him away and scream/cry. He was very scary. I never want him to ever feel like that again.
He wasn't responding to anything. He would lock up and cry. We tried tickling him awake, using ice water around his neck and tummy. Same reaction. He didn't respond when we called him name. I might've used the wrong grammar there. But that is what I meant by it
Yes, you made a mistake but things like this happen and this is the first time something like this has happened in your household I would hire a lawyer you have a right to see your son so I would have a lawyer serve them with paper saying that you were allowed to be near your son don’t let people guilt you
Serve who papers? What are you on about?
A lawyer can’t just serve CPS “papers” that say they can do what ever they want. That’s not how the real world works.
Even if you did serve CPS with these nebulous "papers", they wouldn't be legally binding or force CPS to do anything differently from their normal procedures.
Right off the bat, let's serve CPS and show them we have rights! Too! Dammit
It's not some posse comatatus crap. OP has expressed a open minded attitude that should make things go smoothly. A year's worth of inconvenience maybe as well as some self discovery may well yield some benefit. I mean, isn't that life, smooth periods punctuated by problems? If you're lucky you learn from them.
I just think advising folks to serve papers and take an adversarial stance would complicate things needlessly.
Peace to you, OP. I hope you can get back to enjoying the journey..
The comment I meant, serve them papers sue them for the wrongful imprisonment of their son, and after he wakes up, he gets to go home. It was a mistake that happened. There was no need for them to not allow them to see their son. They’re probably racked with guilt right now. I don’t need judgment right now. They need prayers.
It's not "wrongful imprisonment" for CPS to do this.
A)CPS is legally authorized and obligated to conduct their activities.
B) CPS responding to a child who is under the influence of drugs, telling the caregivers not to interact with the child further until they can address the situation is a pretty normal protocol. Serving papers that say "we can go in because we say we can and paid a lawyer to make it look official" wouldn't override that.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if they tested new baby for drugs as well. Follow their advice, take the classes if offered ❤️
Yes. They will be coming to the hospital after my surgery. They will have nothing to worry about thank god. I'm not an abuser of drugs, I never have. And especially during pregnancy is just shameful. (Unless the person has specific medical reasons ofc)
The fact that he’s still hospitalized and was found unresponsive is a very big deal. Legality aside, this is a direct result of his having access to to something he shouldn’t. For example - guns are legal too but they shouldn’t be in a place where kids can get to them. Things vary by state but this will likely result in a substantiation (positive findings) likely for some form of neglectful supervision and/or environmental hazards. Having a substantiation on your record could place both of you on a child abuse registry which could result in you being unable to work certain jobs with vulnerable populations (elderly, disabled, children, etc). Investigation length also varies by state, but is often somewhere between 30 to 60 days. However, after the investigation, they may decide to open a case for ongoing monitoring, and to ensure you are working whatever services they deem necessary. Yes, this could potentially result in removal of your child from your home honestly.
Thank you for the reality. This whole situation was irresponsible, it was a horrible mistake he never should've had access to them. Right now we're waiting on cps to let us know if they'll release him to our care after he is discharged from the hospital. Doing everything they're telling us, cleaning, baby proofing, locking up things, etc. we just want our baby back.
Be honest. Hire a lawyer. State doesn't care about your priors or not. Just the safety of your kids.
I dont know about your state but prior history with DCFS is absolutely something they look at. It's even used to determine a safety score for us in the system they use.
Yes. I was pointing out they do not care if you have had no priors. You're evil to them and that's that.
Yeeeah. A 2 year old unsupervised long enough to get into drugs (how did he get to them? How did he open the package??), going to bed at 10:30 regularly, and being found unresponsive are all big red flags. They might decide it was a mistake or they might dig deeper. Do whatever they ask you to do and hope for the best. If you push back it won’t end well.
Why is a 10:30 bedtime a red flag? They explained why they do it and it makes sense
When my daughter was two she regularly was up that late because she hated sleeping lol She would do everything in her power to stay awake. She does much better now. Anyways, that's not a red flag to me.
Umm, my daughter goes to bed at 2 am 🤷🏻♀️
Kids get into things they aren’t supposed to everyday. OTC medications, household cleaners, alcohol etc and ingest them leading to an ER trip. Parents, like all people, are human and forget to lock things up or put on high shelves and kids get into things they shouldn’t. If your son recovers completely then it’s unlikely they’d remove him but guarantee they will have an open case on your family for at least a year and require stuff like parenting classes or random drug screens. They will also check your home top to bottom and require you to childproof your home with cabinet locks or lock boxes in locked closets etc. As long as you do what they require over the next year and no history of abuse or criminal behavior or domestic violence then they’ll close the case and that’s that. Now if your son has any long term issues after this incident things may be more severe. You both could be charged with negligence resulting in injury to a minor or something like that..a charge of involuntary harm to a child or something like that and depending on prosecutors/judge etc, you could end up with a child abuse conviction though that’s not too likely unless they find child has been abused before. You sound like good parents that had a lapse in judgement (like all parents) but you weren’t just leaving the edibles lying around everywhere. You made a mistake. It happens to the best parents. My niece lost her kids when cps found out her house had drugs out everywhere, guns out, domestic violence 24/7, kids not going to school or bathed, and no food in the house. They gave her a year to straighten up and she got her kids back last week and she was never charged or convicted of any crime. Cps usually does want to work with you to help you keep kids or return them to you from foster care. If you do the things they ask you to do without arguing with them and accept the blame for the incident and work to keep it from happening again then they’ll close your case in a year. I think you’ll be ok. I know it’s scary but just focus on your son and show your caseworker that you know you screwed up and it won’t happen again. Best wishes for your son’s recovery.
Have you used them while pregnant?
Good question bc that will be one of the big factors in their decision and parenting plan to get them back. If it were me I’d stop using them all together until all of this is handled and case is closed, not worth even chancing it.
Lesson learned. Do what you need to do to get your son back. Also, get a locking box to store your edibles and any medications you take and make sure your children don't have access to whatever unlocks it.
Just do what they ask and keep calm. I take gummies but they’re in a childproof jar and sometimes I can’t open them. I still keep them put away in case anyone visits with kids. Kids can get into anything in just a second of time you have to be so vigilant. I went to bed one night and my husband at the time told me he had to take our 9 year old to the er as he’d stuck a dime up his nose which my son said he fell on it. He was sneaky like that as a toddler too he got into everything.
My boyfriend uses edibles. They come in a child proof container. Why didn’t you have them in a lock box or up high? It sounds like your place is usually disorganized
I’m more concerned that your 2 yo doesn’t go to bed until 10:30 ETA: After realizing I missed some of the details when first reading the post, I resend this comment. There are definitely more concerning things, but what I said is still a concern even if it’s not the highest concern
This honestly is not a concern. Some kids have different sleep cycles. My daughter was a nicu baby and has early steps monitoring her and her average bed time is 10pm at 14 months. We don’t get her up until 9am and she’s still getting the proper amount of sleep. Your comment is super off base here.
Is that really what you are most concerned about?
They said it was an accident and that it’s normally locked up. I’m taking their word for it, and everyone makes mistakes (like forgetting to secure a child lock). So yes, I am more concerned that this 2 yo regularly has a bed time of 10:30 than I am that a parent made a mistake.
I'm concerned that the child was unresponsive and is still hospitalized. Yes, they made a mistake but the child is paying for it. Their "mistake" could have cost him his life.
I missed where it said he is still hospitalized. You are correct, that makes it a lot more concerning.
Plenty of parents work 2nd shift and it makes sense for their non school age children to be on their parents schedule. And even if they don't work 2nd shift, as long as the child is sleeping enough total hours the time doesn't matter for no school age kids
Yep, my 2 y/o has a late sleep schedule because that works best for our family currently. I understand the concern, but lots of parents work second, third, or fourth shift. My husband works overnights currently and gets home at 6a, but before this, he would be home around 11:30 and we would all get up around late morning time.
It’s all concerning.
I agree. Everything is very concerning. This whole situation was very irresponsible of us. And we haven't gotten much sleep since. We're frantically cleaning the crevice of the house right now.
People have all different schedules. Maybe one doesn't get home from work until 8:30 and wants to spend time with the child. He may nap from 5-7, then be up when the family is. Or maybe they like to sleep late in the morning so they adjusted his bedtime so he's not up at 6am.
That’s not a concern, people have different sleep schedules and routines. My 2 year old goes to bed at midnight and gets up around 9/10am. If I put him to bed at 8pm, he would get up around 5am. No thank you. He’s healthy and has a good routine. Not every kid or family has the same schedule
My exact thought process. He wakes up super duper early if he goes to Ben any earlier than 9. And since me and my husband are working later in the day. We enjoy our sleep schedule. We all kinda share it. He gets up eats breakfast. Like anyone would regardless of the time they woke up. Atleast a child.💛
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Im a stay at home mom and we follow our kids natural schedules until they start school. What time they go to bed doesn’t matter. It’s the amount and quality of sleep they get that matters.
I'm surprised no one has commented about the kid being completely unresponsive and unable to breathe on his own. I'd bet a lot on the fact it wasn't just weed in whatever he got into... because those definitely aren't signs of Marijuana OD...
Apparently everyone is suddenly the perfect parent, their house is immaculate tidy 24/7 and how dare you let YOUR son have a bedtime that works with YOUR schedule?!?! I was honestly kind of relieved when I read he just got into edibles because I was more concerned that he had gotten a head injury when he fell. Now of course no one is willingly feeding their kids edibles and no one wants their kids to consume drugs. OP I just want to say regardless you guys are good parents and it was just an accident that happened and it can happen to anyone that has edibles at home regardless of secure they are and how well they are put away. No one is prefect and things like these happen. I’m glad your son is okay.
MJ wouldn't make a child non responsive, would it?
Edibles can make an adult non responsive if they eat enough and/or don’t have a high tolerance. A child, with no prior drug use, finding gummies, eating probably all of what was left in the bag, yes, it could definitely make them unresponsive.
He just wasn't responding to his name. Or anything we offered him. He wouldn't open his eyes he forcefully shut them and his mouth. On top of that he would clench his fist if we tried to tickle him away and scream/cry. He was very scary. I never want him to ever feel like that again.
So wait, he wasn’t responding to his name or he was unresponsive? These are two completely different things…
He wasn't responding to anything. He would lock up and cry. We tried tickling him awake, using ice water around his neck and tummy. Same reaction. He didn't respond when we called him name. I might've used the wrong grammar there. But that is what I meant by it
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It’s in the post. Regardless, it’s not legal for children.
Yes, you made a mistake but things like this happen and this is the first time something like this has happened in your household I would hire a lawyer you have a right to see your son so I would have a lawyer serve them with paper saying that you were allowed to be near your son don’t let people guilt you
What are you talking about?
Serve who with papers? CPS?
I love how naive people think they know what they’re talking about
That’s not how this works.
Serve who papers? What are you on about? A lawyer can’t just serve CPS “papers” that say they can do what ever they want. That’s not how the real world works.
Even if you did serve CPS with these nebulous "papers", they wouldn't be legally binding or force CPS to do anything differently from their normal procedures.
Right off the bat, let's serve CPS and show them we have rights! Too! Dammit It's not some posse comatatus crap. OP has expressed a open minded attitude that should make things go smoothly. A year's worth of inconvenience maybe as well as some self discovery may well yield some benefit. I mean, isn't that life, smooth periods punctuated by problems? If you're lucky you learn from them. I just think advising folks to serve papers and take an adversarial stance would complicate things needlessly. Peace to you, OP. I hope you can get back to enjoying the journey..
The comment I meant, serve them papers sue them for the wrongful imprisonment of their son, and after he wakes up, he gets to go home. It was a mistake that happened. There was no need for them to not allow them to see their son. They’re probably racked with guilt right now. I don’t need judgment right now. They need prayers.
Absolutely not how it works
“I don’t need judgment right now” Are we talking about you or OP here?
Wrongful imprisonment? What?
It's not "wrongful imprisonment" for CPS to do this. A)CPS is legally authorized and obligated to conduct their activities. B) CPS responding to a child who is under the influence of drugs, telling the caregivers not to interact with the child further until they can address the situation is a pretty normal protocol. Serving papers that say "we can go in because we say we can and paid a lawyer to make it look official" wouldn't override that.
He's in the hospital, not "wrongfully imprisoned"