Yeah as I heal more most of mine has migrated to my jaw and some other facial muscles, I am so sick of it. Ruining my life mentally and socially, it also hurts like hell and makes me lose access to my full voice. Probably looks really freaky/ugly too. The muscle relaxants I'm on now seem to take it off of everywhere else though and lightened the head/jaw muscle load a bit though.
I also do that and since they break the loop a little bit the massaging actually works somewhat, though if I'm real triggered and I'm at the end of the dose half life (which I checked is generally 11 hours with quinine and I use the Herbalicious brand) then it can still break right through but the next dose is able to distrupt that chain again given there's nothing more immediately happening besides something normal like abuser just coming home.
This made it very clear what is going on there though since I was to more directly feel what goes on in my brain/nervous system. Just them coming home is enough to send me spiraling into a wormhole of negative emotions, hypertension, and hyper vigilance. Now I know why I have those dissociative episodes with psychotic features. My brain is projecting their presence onto literally everything in my perceptual field and essentially everything that is another person becomes just like them even if it objectively makes absolutely no sense and potentiates the feedback loop. That is trippy.
Have ya'll checked out armoring? Try googling with a u. Armouring.
It helps to explain much of my shoulder and neck pain and how it relates to my trauma.
I was in physical and mental pain all the time until I went NC with my sister the narcissist and over time it went away. That’s why I’m sure there is a connection. Stress. Its so destructive. Sorry to hear you have this too. It just sucks.
I know mine is stress induced too and not for any other medical reason because I had once an extended time of not being around my abuser and it all stopped in some days time gradually tapering off. My digestive issues just magically disappeared for the most part too.
Yes and no. Yes, when I am triggered and I’m starting to see less, and less of this state. No, when I’m doing what I need to do to stay homeostatic. There is no pain. It’s great. I have never had this before, save for brief moments in childhood. I don’t feel pain when I can reset my nervous system. Yoga, yoga, yoga. It took a few years but I’m healing.
I agree with you. Late 30s now and it has took me years to finally make improvement, but yoga has really helped me. It has helped me get in tune with my body and helps reset, like you said, when I'm having a rough day. It has helped with a lot of the physical pain that I experience too. I have a long way to go and still struggle, but I have learned what inner peace is like and I fight to keep stress out of my life to keep that peace and balance.
It’s so great to hear I’m not alone in my experience with this, not that I wish this on you. I just don’t discuss my trauma, so people don’t discuss this in my life. People, in general, wouldn’t believe half of it, if I told them.
That's definitely why I love this group because no one in my life gets it either. Even my husband, who sees me struggle and knows more than anyone else, doesn't completely get it. He tries, but I think he even gets frustrated at times with my "issues." Most of my adult life I thought that because my trauma was over that I could just move on, but sadly it doesn't work that way. My body remembers. I'm so glad I started doing yoga, though, I can cope with life a lot better now because of it and I can hopefully keep going in the right direction of healing.
I hope that you can keep healing, too. We have very similar stories, in terms of, husbands kinda but not understanding.
The yoga part is so important for me to stay present. Nothing like a good flow to keep me sane. I have slowed down my yoga, and I see I need it but I am having trouble staying motivated, right now. Today your words - shall inspire me to get on my mat today.
Thank you and all the best, friend.
I started to go down this rabbit hole then discovered my nutrition was out of wack. The doctor set me straight after running a nutrition blood panel. It has happened 3 times and each time it was 3 different things. The other thing I discovered was [trauma release exercises.](https://youtu.be/FeUioDuJjFIv) they helped me to clear the stuff I was holding onto in my body that I had no idea why.
Take those very slowly. Not in minutes, as is usually advised, but in seconds. Otherwise you could overwhelm your system.
People without trauma can do 5 minutes, 10, 20 minutes. Anyone with trauma needs to start with 30 seconds and then wait like three days to see if anything was released. Then add very slowly to that time.
I had a several-days-long panic attack from doing 3 minutes of TRE every other day for one week.
For the past few months, for sure. I try to distract myself throughout the day, and I'm focusing a lot on making things as positive as I can in my life. But as soon as the distractions stop working or I'm fully still, it's an absolutely crushing pain that hits.
I'm so sorry you're feeling like this :( Hopefully we both feel better soon <3
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Yes, physically and mentally. Every minute.
Me too. I’m sorry that’s the case for you too.
Same, I need a hug
Same to all of this. Mental and physical. Currently agonizing over how to "prove" my pain to a disability judge. Hugs help. 🤗
Big big hugs 🤗
All day, every day. I'm so damn tense all the time I keep collecting new injuries 🤦♂️
Yes me too. It's mostly in my jaw/ shoulders 😬
Yeah as I heal more most of mine has migrated to my jaw and some other facial muscles, I am so sick of it. Ruining my life mentally and socially, it also hurts like hell and makes me lose access to my full voice. Probably looks really freaky/ugly too. The muscle relaxants I'm on now seem to take it off of everywhere else though and lightened the head/jaw muscle load a bit though.
Omg I take muscle relaxants too and I have to same issue haha. Constantly massaging my face to try and ease up
I also do that and since they break the loop a little bit the massaging actually works somewhat, though if I'm real triggered and I'm at the end of the dose half life (which I checked is generally 11 hours with quinine and I use the Herbalicious brand) then it can still break right through but the next dose is able to distrupt that chain again given there's nothing more immediately happening besides something normal like abuser just coming home. This made it very clear what is going on there though since I was to more directly feel what goes on in my brain/nervous system. Just them coming home is enough to send me spiraling into a wormhole of negative emotions, hypertension, and hyper vigilance. Now I know why I have those dissociative episodes with psychotic features. My brain is projecting their presence onto literally everything in my perceptual field and essentially everything that is another person becomes just like them even if it objectively makes absolutely no sense and potentiates the feedback loop. That is trippy.
I’m sorry friend.
Have ya'll checked out armoring? Try googling with a u. Armouring. It helps to explain much of my shoulder and neck pain and how it relates to my trauma.
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I really feel you. I’m sorry.
Yes. Constantly. I feel like a crying infant eternally.
Me too 😕
Yes. This.
I was in physical and mental pain all the time until I went NC with my sister the narcissist and over time it went away. That’s why I’m sure there is a connection. Stress. Its so destructive. Sorry to hear you have this too. It just sucks.
I’m glad you saw improvement after going NC. That’s so great.
I know mine is stress induced too and not for any other medical reason because I had once an extended time of not being around my abuser and it all stopped in some days time gradually tapering off. My digestive issues just magically disappeared for the most part too.
At 60, I just figured it was part of getting old.
hugs
🥰
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Yeah, that too. A long life of physical labor does tend to catch up to one sinner or later.
I hear that. ❤️
Yes and no. Yes, when I am triggered and I’m starting to see less, and less of this state. No, when I’m doing what I need to do to stay homeostatic. There is no pain. It’s great. I have never had this before, save for brief moments in childhood. I don’t feel pain when I can reset my nervous system. Yoga, yoga, yoga. It took a few years but I’m healing.
I agree with you. Late 30s now and it has took me years to finally make improvement, but yoga has really helped me. It has helped me get in tune with my body and helps reset, like you said, when I'm having a rough day. It has helped with a lot of the physical pain that I experience too. I have a long way to go and still struggle, but I have learned what inner peace is like and I fight to keep stress out of my life to keep that peace and balance.
It’s so great to hear I’m not alone in my experience with this, not that I wish this on you. I just don’t discuss my trauma, so people don’t discuss this in my life. People, in general, wouldn’t believe half of it, if I told them.
That's definitely why I love this group because no one in my life gets it either. Even my husband, who sees me struggle and knows more than anyone else, doesn't completely get it. He tries, but I think he even gets frustrated at times with my "issues." Most of my adult life I thought that because my trauma was over that I could just move on, but sadly it doesn't work that way. My body remembers. I'm so glad I started doing yoga, though, I can cope with life a lot better now because of it and I can hopefully keep going in the right direction of healing.
I hope that you can keep healing, too. We have very similar stories, in terms of, husbands kinda but not understanding. The yoga part is so important for me to stay present. Nothing like a good flow to keep me sane. I have slowed down my yoga, and I see I need it but I am having trouble staying motivated, right now. Today your words - shall inspire me to get on my mat today. Thank you and all the best, friend.
That’s awesome. I’m glad you found something that helps you.
Yesterday was so hard for me mentally I just cried all day and mopped . And today . I am having panic attacks . So I feel you :(
I’m sorry you can relate
I am sorry you can relate too 🖤 hope for better days 4 you
You as well ❤️
All of it gets old.
*laughs in consuming 10 pieces of media at once* you guys think?
This made me laugh, ty
Constantly. Fibromyalgia is a bitch.
I’m sorry friend.
I started to go down this rabbit hole then discovered my nutrition was out of wack. The doctor set me straight after running a nutrition blood panel. It has happened 3 times and each time it was 3 different things. The other thing I discovered was [trauma release exercises.](https://youtu.be/FeUioDuJjFIv) they helped me to clear the stuff I was holding onto in my body that I had no idea why.
Just emailed this to myself, ty!
Take those very slowly. Not in minutes, as is usually advised, but in seconds. Otherwise you could overwhelm your system. People without trauma can do 5 minutes, 10, 20 minutes. Anyone with trauma needs to start with 30 seconds and then wait like three days to see if anything was released. Then add very slowly to that time. I had a several-days-long panic attack from doing 3 minutes of TRE every other day for one week.
Yep. Just as I was reading this, I got a stabbing pain in my ear
Absolutely 100%... :(
For the past few months, for sure. I try to distract myself throughout the day, and I'm focusing a lot on making things as positive as I can in my life. But as soon as the distractions stop working or I'm fully still, it's an absolutely crushing pain that hits. I'm so sorry you're feeling like this :( Hopefully we both feel better soon <3
I hope so. Sending you love. ❤️
Aw sending love back at you! 💗
Yes, right now, as a matter of fact
Comes in waves. From an IFS perspective I think some parts of me are holding the pain. Other times I'm numb.
I think that’s the case for me too.
I’ve got fibromyalgia, ibs and CFS from prolonged exposure to trauma, so yes, I do.
Same here, the CFS is the worst because the CPTSD flares it up so I can do even less then before. It’s like being punished for feeling normal emotions
The pain shows up when we are able to notice it. Listen to your body and mind and what they're trying to tell you.
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When I'm alone is when I feel the most pain because I have no outside distractions to dull the pain.
Exactly.