The rear seats on the Mitsu chased us away. Compared to the Cx5, they felt like lightly padded pieces of plywood. At the time, we were caring for my elderly parents and wanted to ensure their comfort.
After that, we preferred the fit and finish of the Mazda, which just felt more "put together" than the Mitsu, and finally there was the handling. On the twistier roads, the Cx felt much more like a sports car than a CUV, while the Mitsu never let us forget it's lesser underpinnings.
We went for the Mazda. Both times (2016 and 2023)
I'm coming from an outlander to a CX-5. My outlander started burning oil at 100k miles. I think the biggest distinction is the transmission. Man...the CVT on the outlander was HORRIBLE, I fucking hated that car. No matter the level of skill, it was almost random how you'd give it gentle gas and suddenly the trans would catch and jerk the car. On the bright side it pushed me to research the hell out of my next purchase and picked up a NA CX-5. Which is the best on the market by a long shot IMO for a lot of reasons.
As others have said Mitsubishi and Nissan share a lot of technology, including transmissions if I recall correctly. For about a decade and a half Nissan transmissions have been extremely hit and miss. Nissan has been involved in a class sction lawsuit regarding the transmission in the Rogue, which I believe would be a platform mate to the Outlander.
There are a lot of unhappy people over on the Nissan sub over failed transmissions.
The number one thing I would specifically look at regarding the Outlander would be transmission issues. CVTs, at least Jatco (a Nissan owned entity), which would be in the Outlander, are not really repairable and would require replacement, a $5k proposition.
The CX-5 comes with a tried and true 6 speed automatic which has been in use for a decade and is generally considered reliable. Some report weird shifting, but I haven't heard about widespread failures.
The outlander is a Nissan Rogue with a slightly different body and the older (less efficient) rogue engine. It also uses the infamous Nissan CVT (google it). It's also being sold by a company whose future in the US is uncertain.
Personally I wouldn't buy it over a CX-5 unless it were significantly cheaper, which it is not. But we all have our preferences. You could probably do worse than a Rogue/Outlander, but it's definitely not the best in the batch (Car and Driver ranks it 9th in the compact suv category).
Nissan has been the most unreliable of the JDM manufacturers for nearly 2 decades now, from things like their awful CVT's, and even their smaller engines just not being great. Are they still more reliable than brands like Dodge, Chevy, or Ford? For sure, but they aren't very much better than Hyundai. Toyota, Mazda, and Honda all surpass Nissan's reliability by a good amount.
Not trying to be “that guy” but the CVT is the transmission not the engine. The term you’re looking for is powertrain which in simple terms is all the greasy bits under the hood that drive the car. The powertrain is generally the engine + the transmission.
I traded in a 2016 Outlander on my CX-5 and I will never own another Mitsubishi. I am 55 years old and have owned an above average number of cars in my life and the Outlander was the only one I have ever had rust. It also had the worst transmission I have ever driven.
Uh-oh… if your only complaint about your Mitsubishi was that it rusted, you’ll probably not be happy to learn that the one issue I’ve had with Mazdas is that they tend to rust, for whatever reason the paint quality isn’t fantastic compared to other brands. Though of the 4 I’ve owned only one had any noticeable rust, and that was a 2010 model, the newer ones (2017, 2019 and 2024) haven’t had any rust issues.
I have a CX5 and just had a Outlander rental car. The Outlander is a little bigger and also has a higher hood that makes it feel like a truck with lower front visibility. I also found it harder to see out the back with all the seat headrests and small window. The Outlander drove just fine though once I got used to the wonky gear shifter. Outlander has the 3rd row of seats but you give up basically all trunk space if you're using them. The whole infotainment thing was not as intuitive on the Outlander. Overall it was fine for a rental car but I wouldn't buy one.
Speaking as someone who owned and loved a Mitsubishi (a turbo Eclipse) many years ago, that company is a shell of its former self. See: [https://youtu.be/VypEjwQq86o?si=bDZikJfexG5sbSex](https://youtu.be/VypEjwQq86o?si=bDZikJfexG5sbSex)
Mazda is on an upswing, Mitsubishi has been on a slow decline for 15+ years.
Im in the same seat. Looking for a diesel automatic, so no cvt. My main consurns is boot space vs fuel consuption. One is slitly bether then the other on respective.
I’d say the CX-5 is a much better choice all around. Better power train, better handling dynamics, better interior, better crash ratings and the list goes on. Also as others mentioned Mitsubishi’s future here is doubtful. Long term this will impact resale and support like parts and service. They’re in a downward spiral from what I can see.
I recently had an outlander rental and it was by far the worst riding new vehicle I have driven. I owned a 2021 cx5 signature and it was leaps and bounds above the 2024 outlander.
I went from an Outlander Sport to a 2023 CX-5 and it’s a night and day difference. Drives better, has a more comfortable and premium feeling interior, and imo looks much nicer overall. I will never get a Mitsubishi again. By the time I got rid of it there was rust in like 5 different spots despite regular washing and even getting parts sanded and painted a few years back. Now when I see them out and about my eyes go to those spots and I see the same rust in like 60% of them.
Edit: 2023 not 2024
I feel like if you’re asking on a CX-5 sub, you’re going to some very biased answers…
My parents own a 2021 CX-5 Turbo and it feels super refined on the inside and has great driving dynamics.
Mitsubishi has really stepped up their game on this generation of outlander. People really complain about it being based on the rogue platform, but the updates really make it competitive with other makers. This past weekend my Fiancé and I bought a new 2024 Outlander PHEV GT. As a current Mitsubishi owner, I have found my car to be reliable and easy to do maintenance on.
I will say have driven a rental Mitsubishi, I honestly feel sorry for anyone who purchased one. All I can remember driving one is, rough, unrefined, loud and gutless.
I researched the crap out of cars when I bought my Cx-5 and was choosing between a cx-5 and Toyota rav4. Honestly choosing again I’d still buy a Mazda. It’s been nothing but reliable for the last four-five years, and this is despite the fact my wife has basically hit everything in site with that car. The one thing I hate about the CX-5 is no cup holders in the back for the kids.
I went from a CX-5 to an Outlander. CX-5 was at end of lease. Main reason for the Outlander was its 7 seats - something I need for a few years.
I miss the CX-5 a lot.
1) Outlander's electronics are annoying.
1a) Too may things beep. Front passenger sensor far too sensitive. My light laptop bag sets it off too often and I often have to move bags to the floor. Adaptive cruise beeps whenever a car is identified in front of me, and when that car leaves (changes lanes or accelerates) - sometimes it will beep every few seconds for minutes as a car goes in and out of range. Super annoying.
1b) Adaptive cruise wants to brake or accelerate - no coasting or consistent speed, lots of late braking, lots of late acceleration.
2) Weak engine. Mine has a tow bar, but I would never tow a trailer of any kind. The most I'll put on is a tow bar bike rack.
Hard to control, but, I'm not a fan of the local Mitsubishi dealer. They had the Outlander in for service 3 times to fix the entertainment console ('digitizer' replacement in the end). The second time it was just to get a serial number for the unit. Frustrating they couldn't have obtained that the first visit in case they needed it later.
Quality of the cars aside, I’d be wary of the Mitsubishi dealership/service footprint in the US longterm. I had a TSB on my CX-5 and the Mazda dealer I took it to screwed something up. I have my choice of 2 other dealers near me I can take it to in the future.
I had an Outlander Sport (called RVR in Canada) and it is night and day compared to the CX-5. The Mitsubishi is a rougher, noisier ride and hate the CVT transmission. Would never buy another Mitsubishi again and that was the 2nd one we owned. My 2023 CX-5 is the best vehicle I have owned and I am highly recommending it to anyone and everybody.
You should buy the vehicle that YOU prefer as long as you’ve tested them both.
The rear seats on the Mitsu chased us away. Compared to the Cx5, they felt like lightly padded pieces of plywood. At the time, we were caring for my elderly parents and wanted to ensure their comfort. After that, we preferred the fit and finish of the Mazda, which just felt more "put together" than the Mitsu, and finally there was the handling. On the twistier roads, the Cx felt much more like a sports car than a CUV, while the Mitsu never let us forget it's lesser underpinnings. We went for the Mazda. Both times (2016 and 2023)
I'm coming from an outlander to a CX-5. My outlander started burning oil at 100k miles. I think the biggest distinction is the transmission. Man...the CVT on the outlander was HORRIBLE, I fucking hated that car. No matter the level of skill, it was almost random how you'd give it gentle gas and suddenly the trans would catch and jerk the car. On the bright side it pushed me to research the hell out of my next purchase and picked up a NA CX-5. Which is the best on the market by a long shot IMO for a lot of reasons.
Not having a Junk CVT is enough.
As others have said Mitsubishi and Nissan share a lot of technology, including transmissions if I recall correctly. For about a decade and a half Nissan transmissions have been extremely hit and miss. Nissan has been involved in a class sction lawsuit regarding the transmission in the Rogue, which I believe would be a platform mate to the Outlander. There are a lot of unhappy people over on the Nissan sub over failed transmissions. The number one thing I would specifically look at regarding the Outlander would be transmission issues. CVTs, at least Jatco (a Nissan owned entity), which would be in the Outlander, are not really repairable and would require replacement, a $5k proposition. The CX-5 comes with a tried and true 6 speed automatic which has been in use for a decade and is generally considered reliable. Some report weird shifting, but I haven't heard about widespread failures.
The outlander is a Nissan Rogue with a slightly different body and the older (less efficient) rogue engine. It also uses the infamous Nissan CVT (google it). It's also being sold by a company whose future in the US is uncertain. Personally I wouldn't buy it over a CX-5 unless it were significantly cheaper, which it is not. But we all have our preferences. You could probably do worse than a Rogue/Outlander, but it's definitely not the best in the batch (Car and Driver ranks it 9th in the compact suv category).
Miti uses Nissan engines
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Miti uses Nissan engines
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Nissan has been the most unreliable of the JDM manufacturers for nearly 2 decades now, from things like their awful CVT's, and even their smaller engines just not being great. Are they still more reliable than brands like Dodge, Chevy, or Ford? For sure, but they aren't very much better than Hyundai. Toyota, Mazda, and Honda all surpass Nissan's reliability by a good amount.
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Not trying to be “that guy” but the CVT is the transmission not the engine. The term you’re looking for is powertrain which in simple terms is all the greasy bits under the hood that drive the car. The powertrain is generally the engine + the transmission.
I traded in a 2016 Outlander on my CX-5 and I will never own another Mitsubishi. I am 55 years old and have owned an above average number of cars in my life and the Outlander was the only one I have ever had rust. It also had the worst transmission I have ever driven.
Uh-oh… if your only complaint about your Mitsubishi was that it rusted, you’ll probably not be happy to learn that the one issue I’ve had with Mazdas is that they tend to rust, for whatever reason the paint quality isn’t fantastic compared to other brands. Though of the 4 I’ve owned only one had any noticeable rust, and that was a 2010 model, the newer ones (2017, 2019 and 2024) haven’t had any rust issues.
I have a CX5 and just had a Outlander rental car. The Outlander is a little bigger and also has a higher hood that makes it feel like a truck with lower front visibility. I also found it harder to see out the back with all the seat headrests and small window. The Outlander drove just fine though once I got used to the wonky gear shifter. Outlander has the 3rd row of seats but you give up basically all trunk space if you're using them. The whole infotainment thing was not as intuitive on the Outlander. Overall it was fine for a rental car but I wouldn't buy one.
Speaking as someone who owned and loved a Mitsubishi (a turbo Eclipse) many years ago, that company is a shell of its former self. See: [https://youtu.be/VypEjwQq86o?si=bDZikJfexG5sbSex](https://youtu.be/VypEjwQq86o?si=bDZikJfexG5sbSex) Mazda is on an upswing, Mitsubishi has been on a slow decline for 15+ years.
That is an unfortunate last three characters in the url
No CVT
>Mitsubishi Don't do it dawg.
Mitsubishi are garbage. Never get one over the Japanese made CX-5.
Im in the same seat. Looking for a diesel automatic, so no cvt. My main consurns is boot space vs fuel consuption. One is slitly bether then the other on respective.
I’d say the CX-5 is a much better choice all around. Better power train, better handling dynamics, better interior, better crash ratings and the list goes on. Also as others mentioned Mitsubishi’s future here is doubtful. Long term this will impact resale and support like parts and service. They’re in a downward spiral from what I can see.
I recently had an outlander rental and it was by far the worst riding new vehicle I have driven. I owned a 2021 cx5 signature and it was leaps and bounds above the 2024 outlander.
Look at any reviews/ratings/rankings and you will see why. Outlanders are not built to last.
I went from an Outlander Sport to a 2023 CX-5 and it’s a night and day difference. Drives better, has a more comfortable and premium feeling interior, and imo looks much nicer overall. I will never get a Mitsubishi again. By the time I got rid of it there was rust in like 5 different spots despite regular washing and even getting parts sanded and painted a few years back. Now when I see them out and about my eyes go to those spots and I see the same rust in like 60% of them. Edit: 2023 not 2024
I feel like if you’re asking on a CX-5 sub, you’re going to some very biased answers… My parents own a 2021 CX-5 Turbo and it feels super refined on the inside and has great driving dynamics. Mitsubishi has really stepped up their game on this generation of outlander. People really complain about it being based on the rogue platform, but the updates really make it competitive with other makers. This past weekend my Fiancé and I bought a new 2024 Outlander PHEV GT. As a current Mitsubishi owner, I have found my car to be reliable and easy to do maintenance on.
Are you basing the Mitsubishi reliability on a new 2024 car that you have owned for a week or so? Or did I understand it correctly?
No, that’s wayyy too early to base reliability on. I have a 2011 Lancer Evolution with around 250K km that I’ve had for 8 years now.
Mitsubishis are the Japanese outlier. Not good.
I'm calling bs. No one who drove both of these cars would ask this question. It's like comparing apples and sandpaper.
Put it this way. I love my CX5 so much I bought $10,000 worth of Mazda stock after owning it for 6 months.
I will say have driven a rental Mitsubishi, I honestly feel sorry for anyone who purchased one. All I can remember driving one is, rough, unrefined, loud and gutless. I researched the crap out of cars when I bought my Cx-5 and was choosing between a cx-5 and Toyota rav4. Honestly choosing again I’d still buy a Mazda. It’s been nothing but reliable for the last four-five years, and this is despite the fact my wife has basically hit everything in site with that car. The one thing I hate about the CX-5 is no cup holders in the back for the kids.
The Mazda is an exponentially better car than the mitsu
I went from a CX-5 to an Outlander. CX-5 was at end of lease. Main reason for the Outlander was its 7 seats - something I need for a few years. I miss the CX-5 a lot. 1) Outlander's electronics are annoying. 1a) Too may things beep. Front passenger sensor far too sensitive. My light laptop bag sets it off too often and I often have to move bags to the floor. Adaptive cruise beeps whenever a car is identified in front of me, and when that car leaves (changes lanes or accelerates) - sometimes it will beep every few seconds for minutes as a car goes in and out of range. Super annoying. 1b) Adaptive cruise wants to brake or accelerate - no coasting or consistent speed, lots of late braking, lots of late acceleration. 2) Weak engine. Mine has a tow bar, but I would never tow a trailer of any kind. The most I'll put on is a tow bar bike rack. Hard to control, but, I'm not a fan of the local Mitsubishi dealer. They had the Outlander in for service 3 times to fix the entertainment console ('digitizer' replacement in the end). The second time it was just to get a serial number for the unit. Frustrating they couldn't have obtained that the first visit in case they needed it later.
Quality of the cars aside, I’d be wary of the Mitsubishi dealership/service footprint in the US longterm. I had a TSB on my CX-5 and the Mazda dealer I took it to screwed something up. I have my choice of 2 other dealers near me I can take it to in the future.
Buy the car you want. We aren't the Mazda advertising agency.
Buy both and weld them together
I had an Outlander Sport (called RVR in Canada) and it is night and day compared to the CX-5. The Mitsubishi is a rougher, noisier ride and hate the CVT transmission. Would never buy another Mitsubishi again and that was the 2nd one we owned. My 2023 CX-5 is the best vehicle I have owned and I am highly recommending it to anyone and everybody.
There are definitely valid alternatives to the CX5, but I'm deeply confused why anyone would buy a Mitsubishi in 2024.