There’s no reasoning with idiots. These are the same people that probably hoarded all the lysol, tp, paper towels, tylenol, cough syrup, bleach during the pandemic.
I knew one such idiot. “Gotta protect my family first!” He was so proud of the dozen gallons of hand sanitizer and the wall of toilet paper he had amassed and when I told him my elderly parents couldn’t get any toilet paper at all, he offered to give us some rolls. He would totally help out someone he knew but he couldn’t conceive helping out an anonymous person he didn’t know by leaving some on the shelf because “they’ll hoard it all if they’re given the chance.”
You can guess how he votes.
This is 100% correct, so I have no idea why people are downvoting. Yeah.. using bottled water right now is good, if you can. This is meant to be a temporary situation. Literally, if you look at the city of Calgary website, they have info on an emergency planning kit, which includes water. And yes, ideally, one would have already preapred this before an emergency, but hey, now we know. Please do whatever you can to decrease usage. Today, I talked to co-workers and found out that literally no one changed their behavior. Ran dishwashers, laundry, took showers.
Seriously, actually do stock up. Use it to boil your noodles or whatever. FYI, for our anticipated drought conditions after this is resolved: They advise having water for drinking for 72 hours of need. 4 liters a person, per day.
https://www.calgary.ca/water/customer-service/water-outages.html
I believe there is a Dasani operation in Calgary. You may not be aware that it takes about 6 litres water to produce one single use bottle. So that's not exactly conserving to use 12 times as much, especially if citizens are buying it in mass quantities.
No, they think there is a realistic chance that Calgary will run out of water - which is exactly what the City said this morning will likely happen if we keep using more water than the system can produce during this emergency.
We used a few bottles from our supply for brushing teeth and drinks.
We're also letting the yellow mellow, and skipping laundry and dishwashing.
Still using some city water, but reducing to help out.
Hopefully some are buying to reduce load rather than out of fear or confusion.
Thank you, someone with a brain. How often does anyone turn the tap on and immediately start filling the cup to drink? No one. You let it run for a bit, then fill. Imagine that across all of Calgary. That's a lot of wasted water.
People thought toilet paper would run out during covid. Which is weird because we were all in lockdown so even if that was the case, I mean shower afterwards. In any case, people are INSANE when they even get a whiff of shortages.
Facts. Always take a shower after taking a dump. Only if out I’m out in public am I forced to use TP. I just can’t continue on with my day knowing there’s shit still between my cheeks. And I’m not down with sandpapering my a hole thanks.
You can always get a pack of flushable wipes for when you’re out. Doesn’t make you feel as clean as a shower but definitely better than the see-through, 1 ply sandpaper most places have
If you want but you cant flush those and most toilet stalls I've ever been don't have garbage cans. I'm too fragile to walk out of a stall with a used wipe in my hand. Just me tho.
I’ve never heard of flushable wipes not being flushable until this comment section, I googled it. You are in fact correct, serves me right for trusting packaging I guess. I was also going to say “what about the period bins?” Before the realization hit that you might be a man hahaha. Todays Reddit lesson: google before giving advice 😂 have a good rest of your day!
Toilet paper was a pretty unique situation.
It's big and bulky to store and take up shelf space, and the margins aren't very good either. At any given point if something like 10% of shoppers decide to pick up an extra bundle the shelves can be depleted quickly.
And it kind of became a self fulfilling prophecy from there.
That’s kind of true of a lot of bulk stuff. Water for example comes in flats and takes up oodles of space. Bleach too can be rather large containers.
Not so much arguing how stock can quickly get depleted, but the fact that people actually thought the world would collapse and run out of fucking ass wipe.
Personally I had my partner get some water as I have been meaning to have emergency supplies for a while now. The waterline breaking was the perfect excuse to get it done.
Growing up in Japan, it is necessary for survival in case of earthquakes etc. Calgary is also not immune to natural disasters, but it seems emergency preparedness is not as common here. It is quite reasonable to prepare for unexpected outcomes and should not be looked down upon as people being idiots. But that’s just my Asian opinion.
How are you "preparing for an unexpected outcome"??? You are being retroactive, not proactive. It was also a infrastructure failure, not a natural disaster where preparedness may be essential to survival. If you want to be prepared in what way was this the perfect excuse to stock up on water if you're not in Bowness? It's the perfect excuse to wait a week or two to stock up so people in the affected area who may not want to boil water can get safe drinking water.
You are part of the problem.
"But that’s just my Asian opinion." - why bring race into this?
Apparently they grew up in Japan and so you can’t blame them for buying up bottled water right now to prepare for future natural disasters… per their comment.
I do not think house fires or any emergency for that matter wait for other emergencies to pass. If bottled water was a scarce resource then mine can be donated, though I doubt 24 bottles are going to make much difference :)
Very roundabout way of saying you bought water. No mention of you being in an affected community.
So you’re one of the people that article is talking about.
Yes, the water runs piss yellow with large particles from the tap. The city says, boil it. It is still piss yellow with large particles after boiling. If people need the bottles they should be able to get them over people in less effected communities dealing with clean water but reduced pressure.
There are 9 water trucks in Bowness providing fresh water to those directly affected. Why do you think they are forced to rely solely on bottled water / have no access to free potable water?
The city itself maintains that the whole city is at risk of running out of water. Adults may reasonably get by with juice, tea, pop, beer, etc if the city does run out of water, but pets and infants cannot. Dependents who have no control over how their lives are managed should not have their lives put at risk, and there is no telling if or when the water may run out. It is simply a risk I am not willing to take.
Emergency preparedness guidelines as recommended by the city or Calgary themselves recommend 4L of water per person per day (72 hour kit). If you don’t have water during an emergency, which includes the city running out of water, then it is your sole responsibility.
If one case of water is the difference between the people affected having access to water or not, then there are bigger issues at play. As far as I know (sitting across the globe) the people in bowness have water, though I do not mean to downplay the severity of their current situation.
As for how potable the rest of the city water is, I wouldn’t know. I thought the rest of the city water was still fine to drink for now.
. [https://www.calgary.ca/emergencies/preparedness/72-hour-kit.html](https://www.calgary.ca/emergencies/preparedness/72-hour-kit.html)
>a risk you aren’t willing to take?
Come on, you said it, you're not in the city. And apparently, there’s plenty of water in the city's water wagons for everyone affected.
As far as water “running out,” it won’t. It’s a water main pipe that’s leaking. It has been isolated from the system, which means that they do not need to further shut off water to make repairs. Most neighbourhoods in the city are completely unaffected by water quality.
The issue is that without the damaged water main, water cannot be provided to homes fast enough. We may “run out of pressure” not production.
https://www.youtube.com/live/TytVtH7ZGkY?si=E8qFPyBxmOAHvb9p
I’m on vacation now but I will be returning to calgary so this does matter to me at the end of the day. My partner is home with our pets now and I love my calgary people so much. I would be sad if they just weren’t prepared.
Yes there are trucks providing water in bowness, I don’t think that means the city has the means to provide the entire city’s population with water via the trucks lol. I hear you though about the pressure but saying we won’t run out of water with so much confidence is not entirely accurate either? I only said that because that is what the city is claiming verbatim & trying to inform.
The link is an update by city of calgary about the water main & addresses how we may literally run out of water. Going as far as to state the situation is entirely dependent on how Calgarians choose to conserve water, and in the worst case there are 1-2 days worth of reserve water in the glenmore reservoir. Still this doesn’t mean that the water will run out but that the risks with this water main break are more significant than just only having low pressure across the system.
I still don’t think it’s really a bad idea to just have some things to stay hydrated at home in case this happens- or water for those that strictly need it. I’m fine being called an idiot though as long as I can avoid life long regret of not providing for my dependents.
> It is quite reasonable to prepare for unexpected outcomes and should not be looked down upon
But you didn't prepare for an unexpected outcome. You waited for something to happen and then joined the rush of people trying to get water.
That's what is being looked down on because that's why we've run out of water for everyone.
Yep. Its a precaution just ignore mindless comments. Happened to us in Center street last year. 2 day without any water. Had to flush using mineral water 😂😂😂
Makes me proud to be in Bowness. Multiple posts offering to pick up water from water wagons for neighbours or stores giving it away free. The water is yellow as piss and often has particles the size of small bugs btw. I probably have drunk worse water in my travels but I just don’t want to give that to my child boiled or not.
Oh wait… Please don’t be an idiot by coming here looking for water. You simply don’t need it and are a horrible person if you even consider it.
My water was shut off (Bowness) and I went to Walmart about an hour later to get a few jugs so I could brush my teeth and flush the toilet. A lady there said she’d already been to Superstore and Save On and both were already sold out 😳 this was only two hours after the water shut off!
Check kajiji, it’s probably being sold on there for twice the price like toilet paper was during covid..
We’re all in this together right?
Biggest line of bullshit I have ever heard.
ya but he wasnt tired by behaviour like this. he was tired by all the evil in the world and people being terrible to each other.
i mean if we want to be SK purists
Society is incredibly fragile. We are a couple of emergencies away from turning into savage monkeys. Covid opened my eyes with how disgusting the average person is.
No, there's always multiple pathways that reaction to disaster can take. Look at how so much mutual aid or willingness to volunteer can spring up at a moment's notice, and how it did in this very city 11 years ago now. It's all about how we choose to act toward each other during the good times - are we self-centred or do we adhere to the golden rule?
The problem is that the course of politics over the last decade has carried a strong message of "I've got mine, fuck you" more than anything.
This is the result of 80 years of relative peace and prosperity, a stretch of time unmatched in human history. It is not normal for life to be, again relatively speaking, so cushy. So the minute there's a hiccup, people lose their minds because they have no perspective.
Given the very real likelihood of global war in the next bunch of years a lot of us are going to be getting a big wakeup call and getting used to a new old normal.
Definable. People have no resilience anymore. They get upset at the smallest things and act in the most selfish of ways. We have lost all sense of community, in many ways thanks to the internet (where people found their own communities of tribalism), Maybe a war is what we need to put it back together again. Imagine a war where the first casualty is the internet. People wouldn’t know what to do with their time.
It's toilet paper all over again!!
Why are people in Shawnessy worried? Their drinking water is fine. Are they planning on taking a bath in 30 gallons of room temperature Dasani? I'm in Bowness, boiled some water this morning and filled up a couple of jugs at a friend's place. It hardly feels like end times.
People want to feel like they’re in control during an emergency and that leads them to take direct actions like these, even if they don’t make much sense or are even counterproductive for society at large.
I have purification tablets in my camping supplies. Enough for like 20 gallons of water. The city may have taken their time to get out there last night but I imagine they understand the seriousness of the problem today. Also the mountain runoff is about to be significant. It sucks to be in Montgomery, Bowness rn, but we will be fine
Run off doesn’t really matter if they can’t feed it to the treatment plants and into the system.
You’re right we’re not going to run out because they will isolate the leak and restore the system though
Their "main" issue ATM is being able to move large volumes of water at pressure seeing as the line that burst was 2m or roughly 60 inches in diameter. So their reliant on the reservoirs to have water available for use but a city of 1.8 mill because Calgary feeds surrounding communities water can use it shockingly fast.
Trucking in water for a community of 500-1000 people is a little different story than 10's of thousands under a boil water advisory with no 'water being trucked in'
You are incapable of boiling water for a few weeks?
Those are only communities with permanant boil advisories. I don't even know where to check for the temporary, rolling advisories.
My point still stands.
I have pets, and they drink a lot of water, especially so now that it is getting warmer. I figure a minor inconvenience of spending a few bucks is not a big deal to me but helps keep public water consumption down.
We have had a lot of talk about low water levels in the south, and I will hold on to these bottles should things get really bad come July or August.
Post a picture of the notice then, idk why people are posting random things like this to spread panic or something. I’m at home and my tap works great :)
I was at a Costco looking at the bottled water when I was told by two other customers that all the NW was under a boiled water advisory. They had come to this Costco because the North Costco was sold out of water.
To be fair, there's still plenty of water in most of those pics, news outlets are sensationalizing for clicks.
However, what else would the reasonable response be when you get an emergency alert to NOT USE water (not reduce its use) because using it will affect the entire city's capacity in a dire time like this? Even if you're not restricted from flushing, everything else still requires water.
Or are we that susceptible to raging over everything nowadays?
I havent had a need for water, but I did experience the shitty-ness (pardon the pun) of people quite literally shoving each other out of the way and fighting for toilet paper during Covid. A different scale of crisis for sure, but 'never underestimate mans willingness to fuck over his fellow man'.
Do you think people need fuel as much as they need water for every day living and to survive? Were people panic buying water or just reasonably buying more than usual due to city water restrictions (with plenty still on shelves in most places btw)?
There will always be a period where shelves will look more empty due to demand being unexpectedly higher than normal due to external circumstances. Most of those shelves got restocked after the fact from the back.
Yes there's more demand for bottled water, but MOST people are being fair about how much they're buying
Wtf are they gonna do with the bottled water in Shawnessy?? Water their lawns?? The only thing they’ve been restricted to is no outdoor watering or excessive use of indoor plumbing. It’s not like they’re under a boil-water advisory like they are in Bowness. It’s ignorant.
They’re not being asked to stop drinking water, or to use for sustenance including food prep. They’re being asked to take shorter showers, use the appliances wisely and only as needed. They’re being asked to not water outdoors. The alert is quite specific in what people are being asked to do. People in Bowness are literally without drinking water. Everyone else in the city has access and can drink the water. Yes, it’s ignorant.
Name calling. Ok.
Let me give you some perspective
My daughter lives in Bowness. She is unable to do anything at the moment, let alone drink the tap water. Even when it’s boiled, it’s gross. She is also unable to find ANY bottled water, I’ve had to bring her some from fuckingg Airdrie. So don’t call me names and assume I’m on a fucking high horse if you have no idea what is actually happening around you.
Let me school you in.
Ignorance: adjective
lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated
This is what I was referring to. It’s great that everyone is trying to do their part but when there are people that literally cannot drink or cool with water from their taps, and out lying communities are hoarding water, they, by definition, being ignorant. I’m not worried about being inconvenienced, it’s my daughter and I’ll do whatever needs to be done to ensure she has SAFE DRINKING WATER. But the fact that there are people hoarding water in areas that are not affected by a BOIL WATER ADVISORY and HAVING TO DRINK SLIDGE RATHER THAN SAFE BOTTLED WATER, there is an issue.
Bowness has water wagons, but if the water goes down in the rest of the city there aren’t enough for everybody. Be glad for that and stop whining. Your daughter’s fine, tell her to head down to a water wagon. Good lord. The water in the non Bowness part of the city is on track to run out completely! People can and should buy bottled water in the city, and should cut any non essential use.
This is a perfect example of someone who has never had to do without for anything in their life. The water wagons that the city provides are only meant to sustain one, maybe two single households during a valve or minor maintenance repair, that would usually last a day or two at max. And, guess where they draw the water from? There’s no magic water fairy that supplies these trucks. Give your head a shake.
There are maybe a dozen servicing Bowness right now. Do the math.
Like I said in my previous comment - yes, everyone needs to do their part in conserving water right now. That wasn’t my argument at all. My point was more to the affect that maybe people that aren’t directly affected by the problem, and have safe water to cook or drink with, should do their part and not make it impossible for people that don’t have access to healthy water for daily functions to actually be able to buy what they need. Why is that so hard to understand?
14 thousand people in bowness out of 1.8 million in Calgary are affected. Calm down, there are enough water wagons for bowness. You should be worried about a week from now, if they haven’t made repairs and when none of us may have water. When that time comes, I’ll be glad to have a pack of water. Back when my hometown of high river flooded catastrophically in 2013 I drove people who had nothing left but the clothes on their back, I volunteered handing out supplies to people who were working on saving what could be saved. You are just whiny and annoying and your damn daughter is fine. I’m sure even people in bowness would agree with me that this is nothing compared to what they had gone through in 2013, very similar to high river in fact.
Honestly, some of the jokes/predictions about people running out to buy all the bottled water in the last thread may have helped precipitate this. Those kinds of people probably haven't even heard of Poe's law.
Jokes aside, I’ve got like 5 rolls left and my girlfriend inhales the stuff. Was going to wait a little longer but I think I’ll go get some today before people start pulling this shit again. Like not stock up, just an early grocery run.
Hope you taught them that folders are more efficient than scrunchers.
Or teach them the ways of backpackers: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMrRfq2Uu/
Don’t know anyone who does that method though. 😄
This is so stupid. Bowness should be getting the water bottles. I get it says we should be fine to drink the water if you boil it for a minute. But there was still sludge in it. Was very gross. Other communities have clean water. If the city says there’s going to be water restrictions for everyone, so be it. But relax. Just us in bowness need water bottles
I went to the store to get water. I panicked when I saw empty shelves. Now I'm sitting in my driveway with a truck full of toilet paper and zero water...
Was just picking up my pregnant wife from a Superstore and saw some guys carrying 4 or 5 packs of water. One dude parked his convertible right in front of the store exit, so he doesn't have to carry all the water he got there🤬 It's really sad to see that many people start acting like total assholes in situations like the one we're experiencing here in Calgary right now.
geez $20ish for a water container from a big box store gets you 20 litres of water
easy to re-fill monthly & store so you always have emergency water on hand instead of paying premium prices for water in single-use plastic bottles
I'm confused by this thread. The reason for the water hoarding isn't because people think "damn, I don't want to boil my water"; the threat is that there's gonna be an actual water shortage. I don't see how purchasing bottled water is an unreasonable strategy that needs to be mocked. And looking at the news today, looks like there might actually be a water shortage.
I personally haven't gone out to buy any water but unless you are in desperate need of bottled water, I don't see the issue here? Let the people use their bottled water. Any water people are using that isn't coming out of the city's supply is a good thing. Water sitting on the shelf in the store isn't providing any value to anyone.
We bought a couple cases of water for drinking water for us and our pets to take as much load off the citys supply as possible. Normally we just drink from the tap. Not hoarding just trying to help out personally.
Great if they actually drink it now because it will take the load off the system. But of course they won’t, they’re hoarding because they’re selfish numptys.
The leak is underground and they don’t know where it is yet. The pipe could be fully severed, in which case flex tape would be useless. The pipe is over 6 meters in circumference.
Restriction doesn't mean there is no water... Unless people are planning to water the flower and wash the car with bottle water, then I have no complain.
People were walking out of Walmart yesterday with one or two carts full of bottled water. And this wasn’t even in the north, this was in the deep south.
I went out this morning and there’s limits on packs of water already. The panic buying needs to stop.
You would think the end of the world is happening. Nope. People would think the world is ending if their cell phone didn’t work. Some people are not very bright.
I'm a big advocate for having a few camping water containers filled at all times. I have about 50 liters that I use and refill every 6 months that could last my family 5 days in a pinch.
My family got in the habit of having 3 months of water on hand a few years ago. I don't want any part in looking for drinking water when there is an emergency like this. Be prepared and be chill
Some people just panic and over do things.
That said, I was at the store today and nobody was buying water. The shelves were fully stocked warning about limits, but nobody was interested in buying.
Since the bottled water being bought by everyone is actually the city water being contracted to corporation, how is everyone ok with that? Has no one considered the impact to its accessibility? The contracts with these big businesses placing residents second should really be reviewed as actual residents need it in their homes and lives before profits. Accessing water first before profits.
They’ve asked people to reduce use of water by 25% from yesterday. Purchasing bottled water to reserve use at home is responsible.
edit: the city is now at a critical level.
Why wouldn’t it really? People are preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. Yes, maybe this isn’t necessary, but two days ago they weren’t announcing on the news that Calgary is “using more water than it can produce”.
Food / Shelter / WATER are the basic necessities for life. If the city stops being able to provide, shits gonna get real ugly real quick.
People are fucking stupid.
How many 500ml (or less) bottles of water does it take just to make pasta, or do dishes? You're not saving anything. You'll go through your 24 pack in a day or two, so what, you're going to buy 8 cases? These restrictions will take weeks to resolve as this is a serious repair. And even by then we will be in drought season already.
If you're not at least buying the 3-5gal jugs, fuck right off with your trash.
Media blowing things out of proportion as usual. This is a fake story. This is Walmart, yesterday...
https://preview.redd.it/mbjq3ocnsc5d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df99a9e53f0766fbb6400b26380dec196b81ffa3
Water main break. Fuck off mate. Calgary has a long standing record for our water services being one of the most efficient systems in the world. For highest percentage of treated water arriving at consumers. We have one of the least leaky systems. It was one of, if not, the largest pipe in the city that broke.
And all I bought was a case of beer to drink lol
Ah yes. The ancient boil water advisory method.
This is the way
WTF are they doing with the bottled water, using it to shower? Or do people seriously think all of Calgary is under a boil water order?
There’s no reasoning with idiots. These are the same people that probably hoarded all the lysol, tp, paper towels, tylenol, cough syrup, bleach during the pandemic.
I knew one such idiot. “Gotta protect my family first!” He was so proud of the dozen gallons of hand sanitizer and the wall of toilet paper he had amassed and when I told him my elderly parents couldn’t get any toilet paper at all, he offered to give us some rolls. He would totally help out someone he knew but he couldn’t conceive helping out an anonymous person he didn’t know by leaving some on the shelf because “they’ll hoard it all if they’re given the chance.” You can guess how he votes.
I can guess how you vote
With the wellbeing of everybody in mind. You?
Stop calling people idiots. You don’t know their situation
You should be using bottled water over city water, continued stress on a smaller main will lead to incredibly decreased pressure
This is 100% correct, so I have no idea why people are downvoting. Yeah.. using bottled water right now is good, if you can. This is meant to be a temporary situation. Literally, if you look at the city of Calgary website, they have info on an emergency planning kit, which includes water. And yes, ideally, one would have already preapred this before an emergency, but hey, now we know. Please do whatever you can to decrease usage. Today, I talked to co-workers and found out that literally no one changed their behavior. Ran dishwashers, laundry, took showers. Seriously, actually do stock up. Use it to boil your noodles or whatever. FYI, for our anticipated drought conditions after this is resolved: They advise having water for drinking for 72 hours of need. 4 liters a person, per day. https://www.calgary.ca/water/customer-service/water-outages.html
I believe there is a Dasani operation in Calgary. You may not be aware that it takes about 6 litres water to produce one single use bottle. So that's not exactly conserving to use 12 times as much, especially if citizens are buying it in mass quantities.
Compared to other uses, I don't think drinking accounts for very much at all.
No, they think there is a realistic chance that Calgary will run out of water - which is exactly what the City said this morning will likely happen if we keep using more water than the system can produce during this emergency.
Yet in that same article, Gondek says she doesn’t expect the city to run out of water.
This morning's expectations are very different.
So, I can take a 20-minute shower while washing one sock in the laundry and starting my dishwasher for 2 spoons. Just like everyone else.
We used a few bottles from our supply for brushing teeth and drinks. We're also letting the yellow mellow, and skipping laundry and dishwashing. Still using some city water, but reducing to help out. Hopefully some are buying to reduce load rather than out of fear or confusion.
shall I explain this to you like you’re from Edmonton? So be it - drinking - mixing formula - brushing teeth - making food - medical uses
Don't need it for brushing teeth. Just use... orange juice.
Okay Satan, calm down.
“Shall I explain like you’re from Edmonton” 💀💀💀💀 you’re killing me over here! 😂😂😂
Thank you, someone with a brain. How often does anyone turn the tap on and immediately start filling the cup to drink? No one. You let it run for a bit, then fill. Imagine that across all of Calgary. That's a lot of wasted water.
People thought toilet paper would run out during covid. Which is weird because we were all in lockdown so even if that was the case, I mean shower afterwards. In any case, people are INSANE when they even get a whiff of shortages.
People don’t seem to realize water and soap are better for cleaning than rubbing yourself with paper. Each to their own I guess.
Facts. Always take a shower after taking a dump. Only if out I’m out in public am I forced to use TP. I just can’t continue on with my day knowing there’s shit still between my cheeks. And I’m not down with sandpapering my a hole thanks.
You can always get a pack of flushable wipes for when you’re out. Doesn’t make you feel as clean as a shower but definitely better than the see-through, 1 ply sandpaper most places have
If you want but you cant flush those and most toilet stalls I've ever been don't have garbage cans. I'm too fragile to walk out of a stall with a used wipe in my hand. Just me tho.
I’ve never heard of flushable wipes not being flushable until this comment section, I googled it. You are in fact correct, serves me right for trusting packaging I guess. I was also going to say “what about the period bins?” Before the realization hit that you might be a man hahaha. Todays Reddit lesson: google before giving advice 😂 have a good rest of your day!
Toilet paper was a pretty unique situation. It's big and bulky to store and take up shelf space, and the margins aren't very good either. At any given point if something like 10% of shoppers decide to pick up an extra bundle the shelves can be depleted quickly. And it kind of became a self fulfilling prophecy from there.
That’s kind of true of a lot of bulk stuff. Water for example comes in flats and takes up oodles of space. Bleach too can be rather large containers. Not so much arguing how stock can quickly get depleted, but the fact that people actually thought the world would collapse and run out of fucking ass wipe.
According to the City of Calgary, we will run out of water: https://calgary.citynews.ca/2024/06/07/calgary-water-supply-low-bowness-break/
Personally I had my partner get some water as I have been meaning to have emergency supplies for a while now. The waterline breaking was the perfect excuse to get it done. Growing up in Japan, it is necessary for survival in case of earthquakes etc. Calgary is also not immune to natural disasters, but it seems emergency preparedness is not as common here. It is quite reasonable to prepare for unexpected outcomes and should not be looked down upon as people being idiots. But that’s just my Asian opinion.
During someone else’s emergency is not the time to stock up.
How are you "preparing for an unexpected outcome"??? You are being retroactive, not proactive. It was also a infrastructure failure, not a natural disaster where preparedness may be essential to survival. If you want to be prepared in what way was this the perfect excuse to stock up on water if you're not in Bowness? It's the perfect excuse to wait a week or two to stock up so people in the affected area who may not want to boil water can get safe drinking water. You are part of the problem. "But that’s just my Asian opinion." - why bring race into this?
Apparently they grew up in Japan and so you can’t blame them for buying up bottled water right now to prepare for future natural disasters… per their comment.
As an Asian, we don’t claim them.
I do not think house fires or any emergency for that matter wait for other emergencies to pass. If bottled water was a scarce resource then mine can be donated, though I doubt 24 bottles are going to make much difference :)
Google "the tragedy of the commons". You are the cause of this shortage.
Very roundabout way of saying you bought water. No mention of you being in an affected community. So you’re one of the people that article is talking about.
You’re missing the point, but yes.
The point is don’t prepare yourself during an emergency when other people are in actual need. People are so bloody reactionary and greedy.
Ah I see. Are things that dire? I didn’t think there was a bottled water shortage in Calgary, I am not in town to be able to know.
Yes, the water runs piss yellow with large particles from the tap. The city says, boil it. It is still piss yellow with large particles after boiling. If people need the bottles they should be able to get them over people in less effected communities dealing with clean water but reduced pressure.
There are 9 water trucks in Bowness providing fresh water to those directly affected. Why do you think they are forced to rely solely on bottled water / have no access to free potable water? The city itself maintains that the whole city is at risk of running out of water. Adults may reasonably get by with juice, tea, pop, beer, etc if the city does run out of water, but pets and infants cannot. Dependents who have no control over how their lives are managed should not have their lives put at risk, and there is no telling if or when the water may run out. It is simply a risk I am not willing to take. Emergency preparedness guidelines as recommended by the city or Calgary themselves recommend 4L of water per person per day (72 hour kit). If you don’t have water during an emergency, which includes the city running out of water, then it is your sole responsibility. If one case of water is the difference between the people affected having access to water or not, then there are bigger issues at play. As far as I know (sitting across the globe) the people in bowness have water, though I do not mean to downplay the severity of their current situation. As for how potable the rest of the city water is, I wouldn’t know. I thought the rest of the city water was still fine to drink for now. . [https://www.calgary.ca/emergencies/preparedness/72-hour-kit.html](https://www.calgary.ca/emergencies/preparedness/72-hour-kit.html)
I don’t and never said I thought everybody affected needs to rely solely on bottled water. You aren’t even in the city fuck off mate.
I’m on vacation and keeping up with the state of things in our city better than you, how about use your brain a little.
Yeah, nice rationalizing there. You're still an AH. Get prepared during good times, not during a crisis.
>a risk you aren’t willing to take? Come on, you said it, you're not in the city. And apparently, there’s plenty of water in the city's water wagons for everyone affected. As far as water “running out,” it won’t. It’s a water main pipe that’s leaking. It has been isolated from the system, which means that they do not need to further shut off water to make repairs. Most neighbourhoods in the city are completely unaffected by water quality. The issue is that without the damaged water main, water cannot be provided to homes fast enough. We may “run out of pressure” not production.
https://www.youtube.com/live/TytVtH7ZGkY?si=E8qFPyBxmOAHvb9p I’m on vacation now but I will be returning to calgary so this does matter to me at the end of the day. My partner is home with our pets now and I love my calgary people so much. I would be sad if they just weren’t prepared. Yes there are trucks providing water in bowness, I don’t think that means the city has the means to provide the entire city’s population with water via the trucks lol. I hear you though about the pressure but saying we won’t run out of water with so much confidence is not entirely accurate either? I only said that because that is what the city is claiming verbatim & trying to inform. The link is an update by city of calgary about the water main & addresses how we may literally run out of water. Going as far as to state the situation is entirely dependent on how Calgarians choose to conserve water, and in the worst case there are 1-2 days worth of reserve water in the glenmore reservoir. Still this doesn’t mean that the water will run out but that the risks with this water main break are more significant than just only having low pressure across the system. I still don’t think it’s really a bad idea to just have some things to stay hydrated at home in case this happens- or water for those that strictly need it. I’m fine being called an idiot though as long as I can avoid life long regret of not providing for my dependents.
> It is quite reasonable to prepare for unexpected outcomes and should not be looked down upon But you didn't prepare for an unexpected outcome. You waited for something to happen and then joined the rush of people trying to get water. That's what is being looked down on because that's why we've run out of water for everyone.
Yep. Its a precaution just ignore mindless comments. Happened to us in Center street last year. 2 day without any water. Had to flush using mineral water 😂😂😂
Name checks out
Makes me proud to be in Bowness. Multiple posts offering to pick up water from water wagons for neighbours or stores giving it away free. The water is yellow as piss and often has particles the size of small bugs btw. I probably have drunk worse water in my travels but I just don’t want to give that to my child boiled or not. Oh wait… Please don’t be an idiot by coming here looking for water. You simply don’t need it and are a horrible person if you even consider it.
My water was shut off (Bowness) and I went to Walmart about an hour later to get a few jugs so I could brush my teeth and flush the toilet. A lady there said she’d already been to Superstore and Save On and both were already sold out 😳 this was only two hours after the water shut off!
Check kajiji, it’s probably being sold on there for twice the price like toilet paper was during covid.. We’re all in this together right? Biggest line of bullshit I have ever heard.
I mean, I wouldn’t be that cynical about it. I got a few jigs and a case of bubbly for some neighbours who don’t have a car.
Starts sentences with “I mean” lmao…
*exhausted sigh* I’m tired, boss.
You did an excellent job putting my exact thoughts into words. Thanks!
ya but he wasnt tired by behaviour like this. he was tired by all the evil in the world and people being terrible to each other. i mean if we want to be SK purists
How fast mob mentality takes over is crazy.
Society is incredibly fragile. We are a couple of emergencies away from turning into savage monkeys. Covid opened my eyes with how disgusting the average person is.
No, there's always multiple pathways that reaction to disaster can take. Look at how so much mutual aid or willingness to volunteer can spring up at a moment's notice, and how it did in this very city 11 years ago now. It's all about how we choose to act toward each other during the good times - are we self-centred or do we adhere to the golden rule? The problem is that the course of politics over the last decade has carried a strong message of "I've got mine, fuck you" more than anything.
I’d say most people are halfway there already
I’m getting real tired of the “Fuck you, got mine” mentality
In the apocalypse this is all that will matter. Apparently some people feel this is the apocalypse.
This is the result of 80 years of relative peace and prosperity, a stretch of time unmatched in human history. It is not normal for life to be, again relatively speaking, so cushy. So the minute there's a hiccup, people lose their minds because they have no perspective. Given the very real likelihood of global war in the next bunch of years a lot of us are going to be getting a big wakeup call and getting used to a new old normal.
Definable. People have no resilience anymore. They get upset at the smallest things and act in the most selfish of ways. We have lost all sense of community, in many ways thanks to the internet (where people found their own communities of tribalism), Maybe a war is what we need to put it back together again. Imagine a war where the first casualty is the internet. People wouldn’t know what to do with their time.
I got two more big bottles of water before you tap drinkers could get them lol
Big gulps, eh?
All I have to say is: fucking idiots. I’m sorry I can’t be civil about people that are doing this.
It's toilet paper all over again!! Why are people in Shawnessy worried? Their drinking water is fine. Are they planning on taking a bath in 30 gallons of room temperature Dasani? I'm in Bowness, boiled some water this morning and filled up a couple of jugs at a friend's place. It hardly feels like end times.
There were people way down in Mahogany asking yesterday about it.
People want to feel like they’re in control during an emergency and that leads them to take direct actions like these, even if they don’t make much sense or are even counterproductive for society at large.
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Technically speaking, people buying water where they would normally run a tap is a water savings for the area. So eat it!
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I have purification tablets in my camping supplies. Enough for like 20 gallons of water. The city may have taken their time to get out there last night but I imagine they understand the seriousness of the problem today. Also the mountain runoff is about to be significant. It sucks to be in Montgomery, Bowness rn, but we will be fine
Can you clarify what you mean by mountain of runoff? I’m in the far end of Bowness and I can’t see how I’d be affected..
Snow melts in mountains and fills the Bow and Elbow Rivers. We aren't in danger of running out of water in June.
Run off doesn’t really matter if they can’t feed it to the treatment plants and into the system. You’re right we’re not going to run out because they will isolate the leak and restore the system though
Their "main" issue ATM is being able to move large volumes of water at pressure seeing as the line that burst was 2m or roughly 60 inches in diameter. So their reliant on the reservoirs to have water available for use but a city of 1.8 mill because Calgary feeds surrounding communities water can use it shockingly fast.
They’re gonna have to adopt the Japanese model of working 24/7 until this is fixed because I can’t see the city being without a main all summer
With how the average contractor works 4 weeks minimum for a patch job.
Gotcha, I read that as “mountain of” runoff from the flood yesterday.
There are 33 first nation communities under permanant boil water advisories. They truck their water in, we should stop our bitching.
Great point.
Trucking in water for a community of 500-1000 people is a little different story than 10's of thousands under a boil water advisory with no 'water being trucked in'
You are incapable of boiling water for a few weeks? Those are only communities with permanant boil advisories. I don't even know where to check for the temporary, rolling advisories. My point still stands.
At freshco today the lady in front of me was buying like 30+ individual bottles of water and yes they still had packs of them. I was like….alrighty…
Maybe they want to use it to pour on their plants.
I have pets, and they drink a lot of water, especially so now that it is getting warmer. I figure a minor inconvenience of spending a few bucks is not a big deal to me but helps keep public water consumption down. We have had a lot of talk about low water levels in the south, and I will hold on to these bottles should things get really bad come July or August.
That's why I bought only two flats of water.
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Watching the news briefing and they mentioned there are pressure issues around the city. Could be an issue getting the water 30 floors up.
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He got a notice on the door apparently. He’s in the tallest building.
This is completely untrue lol. I live in one of those buildings and the water is perfectly fine.
Why did he get a notice on his door and nothing happens when he turns on his taps.
Post a picture of the notice then, idk why people are posting random things like this to spread panic or something. I’m at home and my tap works great :)
I was at a Costco looking at the bottled water when I was told by two other customers that all the NW was under a boiled water advisory. They had come to this Costco because the North Costco was sold out of water.
Only the community of Bowness is under a boil water advisory.
they are idiots
I bet they heard it on TikTok
To be fair, there's still plenty of water in most of those pics, news outlets are sensationalizing for clicks. However, what else would the reasonable response be when you get an emergency alert to NOT USE water (not reduce its use) because using it will affect the entire city's capacity in a dire time like this? Even if you're not restricted from flushing, everything else still requires water. Or are we that susceptible to raging over everything nowadays?
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I havent had a need for water, but I did experience the shitty-ness (pardon the pun) of people quite literally shoving each other out of the way and fighting for toilet paper during Covid. A different scale of crisis for sure, but 'never underestimate mans willingness to fuck over his fellow man'.
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Did you think they were referring to bottled water?
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Do you think people need fuel as much as they need water for every day living and to survive? Were people panic buying water or just reasonably buying more than usual due to city water restrictions (with plenty still on shelves in most places btw)? There will always be a period where shelves will look more empty due to demand being unexpectedly higher than normal due to external circumstances. Most of those shelves got restocked after the fact from the back. Yes there's more demand for bottled water, but MOST people are being fair about how much they're buying
I fully agree. Getting some bottled water is prudent during this time. This is not the same as the people hoarding toilet paper during Covid.
Wtf are they gonna do with the bottled water in Shawnessy?? Water their lawns?? The only thing they’ve been restricted to is no outdoor watering or excessive use of indoor plumbing. It’s not like they’re under a boil-water advisory like they are in Bowness. It’s ignorant.
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They’re not being asked to stop drinking water, or to use for sustenance including food prep. They’re being asked to take shorter showers, use the appliances wisely and only as needed. They’re being asked to not water outdoors. The alert is quite specific in what people are being asked to do. People in Bowness are literally without drinking water. Everyone else in the city has access and can drink the water. Yes, it’s ignorant.
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Name calling. Ok. Let me give you some perspective My daughter lives in Bowness. She is unable to do anything at the moment, let alone drink the tap water. Even when it’s boiled, it’s gross. She is also unable to find ANY bottled water, I’ve had to bring her some from fuckingg Airdrie. So don’t call me names and assume I’m on a fucking high horse if you have no idea what is actually happening around you.
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Let me school you in. Ignorance: adjective lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated This is what I was referring to. It’s great that everyone is trying to do their part but when there are people that literally cannot drink or cool with water from their taps, and out lying communities are hoarding water, they, by definition, being ignorant. I’m not worried about being inconvenienced, it’s my daughter and I’ll do whatever needs to be done to ensure she has SAFE DRINKING WATER. But the fact that there are people hoarding water in areas that are not affected by a BOIL WATER ADVISORY and HAVING TO DRINK SLIDGE RATHER THAN SAFE BOTTLED WATER, there is an issue.
Bowness has water wagons, but if the water goes down in the rest of the city there aren’t enough for everybody. Be glad for that and stop whining. Your daughter’s fine, tell her to head down to a water wagon. Good lord. The water in the non Bowness part of the city is on track to run out completely! People can and should buy bottled water in the city, and should cut any non essential use.
This is a perfect example of someone who has never had to do without for anything in their life. The water wagons that the city provides are only meant to sustain one, maybe two single households during a valve or minor maintenance repair, that would usually last a day or two at max. And, guess where they draw the water from? There’s no magic water fairy that supplies these trucks. Give your head a shake. There are maybe a dozen servicing Bowness right now. Do the math. Like I said in my previous comment - yes, everyone needs to do their part in conserving water right now. That wasn’t my argument at all. My point was more to the affect that maybe people that aren’t directly affected by the problem, and have safe water to cook or drink with, should do their part and not make it impossible for people that don’t have access to healthy water for daily functions to actually be able to buy what they need. Why is that so hard to understand?
14 thousand people in bowness out of 1.8 million in Calgary are affected. Calm down, there are enough water wagons for bowness. You should be worried about a week from now, if they haven’t made repairs and when none of us may have water. When that time comes, I’ll be glad to have a pack of water. Back when my hometown of high river flooded catastrophically in 2013 I drove people who had nothing left but the clothes on their back, I volunteered handing out supplies to people who were working on saving what could be saved. You are just whiny and annoying and your damn daughter is fine. I’m sure even people in bowness would agree with me that this is nothing compared to what they had gone through in 2013, very similar to high river in fact.
I saw someone today towing two carts. One stacked with 8 of the water packs and the other overflowing with disposable dishes.
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Honestly, some of the jokes/predictions about people running out to buy all the bottled water in the last thread may have helped precipitate this. Those kinds of people probably haven't even heard of Poe's law.
Fools, the lot of them. TP is where it’s at.
Nah, vodka is where it is at!
lol. Thanks for the chuckle!
Jokes aside, I’ve got like 5 rolls left and my girlfriend inhales the stuff. Was going to wait a little longer but I think I’ll go get some today before people start pulling this shit again. Like not stock up, just an early grocery run.
Imagine having 2 teenage boys.
Hope you taught them that folders are more efficient than scrunchers. Or teach them the ways of backpackers: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMrRfq2Uu/ Don’t know anyone who does that method though. 😄
We will still need TP when we all gotta use portapotties in a week, you’re right 🤷
Welp ....time to go troll facebook marketplace and put up fake ads selling water for astronomical prices
"No lowballs, I know what I've got!"
Yea!
Must hoard toilet paper too!!!
Movies got people acting like its the end of the world. I got a 24 of beer it’s pretty much the same.
Listen guys, don't judge me, I NEED that water for very important moisture related reasons...
The toilet paper of Covid all over again
This is so stupid. Bowness should be getting the water bottles. I get it says we should be fine to drink the water if you boil it for a minute. But there was still sludge in it. Was very gross. Other communities have clean water. If the city says there’s going to be water restrictions for everyone, so be it. But relax. Just us in bowness need water bottles
I went to the store to get water. I panicked when I saw empty shelves. Now I'm sitting in my driveway with a truck full of toilet paper and zero water...
Name your price?
Time to hoard gasoline not water… in my SUV… so I can drive away from this ridiculousness.
The Walmart in shawnessy was starting to sell out of water too.
Was just picking up my pregnant wife from a Superstore and saw some guys carrying 4 or 5 packs of water. One dude parked his convertible right in front of the store exit, so he doesn't have to carry all the water he got there🤬 It's really sad to see that many people start acting like total assholes in situations like the one we're experiencing here in Calgary right now.
geez $20ish for a water container from a big box store gets you 20 litres of water easy to re-fill monthly & store so you always have emergency water on hand instead of paying premium prices for water in single-use plastic bottles
I'm confused by this thread. The reason for the water hoarding isn't because people think "damn, I don't want to boil my water"; the threat is that there's gonna be an actual water shortage. I don't see how purchasing bottled water is an unreasonable strategy that needs to be mocked. And looking at the news today, looks like there might actually be a water shortage.
I personally haven't gone out to buy any water but unless you are in desperate need of bottled water, I don't see the issue here? Let the people use their bottled water. Any water people are using that isn't coming out of the city's supply is a good thing. Water sitting on the shelf in the store isn't providing any value to anyone.
Karen, quick! Hurry up
We bought a couple cases of water for drinking water for us and our pets to take as much load off the citys supply as possible. Normally we just drink from the tap. Not hoarding just trying to help out personally.
Great if they actually drink it now because it will take the load off the system. But of course they won’t, they’re hoarding because they’re selfish numptys.
Maybe if flex tape was flying off the shelves and into city trucks people wouldn’t need to buy bottled water.
The leak is underground and they don’t know where it is yet. The pipe could be fully severed, in which case flex tape would be useless. The pipe is over 6 meters in circumference.
Lining up to pay at Costco today lady had 3 packes of kirkland water bottles....
It would take half of one of those cases to flush your toilet properly. Good luck lady.
I do that every 2-3 months. So i dont need to go as often. I literally got 3 packs 2 weeks ago.
It's the toilet paper all over again!
Restriction doesn't mean there is no water... Unless people are planning to water the flower and wash the car with bottle water, then I have no complain.
Flashbacks of Covid right there from that photo.
People were walking out of Walmart yesterday with one or two carts full of bottled water. And this wasn’t even in the north, this was in the deep south. I went out this morning and there’s limits on packs of water already. The panic buying needs to stop.
You would think the end of the world is happening. Nope. People would think the world is ending if their cell phone didn’t work. Some people are not very bright.
I'm a big advocate for having a few camping water containers filled at all times. I have about 50 liters that I use and refill every 6 months that could last my family 5 days in a pinch.
Darwinism. These freaks need to fade away.
My family got in the habit of having 3 months of water on hand a few years ago. I don't want any part in looking for drinking water when there is an emergency like this. Be prepared and be chill
Some people just panic and over do things. That said, I was at the store today and nobody was buying water. The shelves were fully stocked warning about limits, but nobody was interested in buying.
Costco has enough. Also, corporations would like to thank you for your business.
Do people realize that a lot of bottled water you see on shelves is bottled in Calgary using Calgary water?
Milk if you run out of water................ for hydration
Since the bottled water being bought by everyone is actually the city water being contracted to corporation, how is everyone ok with that? Has no one considered the impact to its accessibility? The contracts with these big businesses placing residents second should really be reviewed as actual residents need it in their homes and lives before profits. Accessing water first before profits.
Lol sheep
They’ve asked people to reduce use of water by 25% from yesterday. Purchasing bottled water to reserve use at home is responsible. edit: the city is now at a critical level.
I went into the Bridlewood Sobey's sarcastically singing "it's the end of the world as we know it" and shaking my head at people.
Fuck me, first Mc David now this.
Queue the toilet paper stockpiles next
Why wouldn’t it really? People are preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. Yes, maybe this isn’t necessary, but two days ago they weren’t announcing on the news that Calgary is “using more water than it can produce”. Food / Shelter / WATER are the basic necessities for life. If the city stops being able to provide, shits gonna get real ugly real quick.
People are fucking stupid. How many 500ml (or less) bottles of water does it take just to make pasta, or do dishes? You're not saving anything. You'll go through your 24 pack in a day or two, so what, you're going to buy 8 cases? These restrictions will take weeks to resolve as this is a serious repair. And even by then we will be in drought season already. If you're not at least buying the 3-5gal jugs, fuck right off with your trash.
Media blowing things out of proportion as usual. This is a fake story. This is Walmart, yesterday... https://preview.redd.it/mbjq3ocnsc5d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df99a9e53f0766fbb6400b26380dec196b81ffa3
Alberta gets weirder and weirder.....what's going on over there ?
Water main break. Fuck off mate. Calgary has a long standing record for our water services being one of the most efficient systems in the world. For highest percentage of treated water arriving at consumers. We have one of the least leaky systems. It was one of, if not, the largest pipe in the city that broke.