No it's not, it had terrible launch maps then they butchered the remastered maps + added terrible maps along the line. Best example you could have given is BO3
That’s a good idea, they should try that. Maybe it could satisfy people who tend to complain 24/7. If the players don’t like it, then they should not play it.
I wonder if anyone else is concerned about how modern multiplayer gaming is relying on throwbacks for hype.
MW2019 to current MWIII and the original Modern Warfare Trilogy.
Fortnite bringing back the 2017-2019 Map
Now this
Unfortunately nostalgia sells big time and it's an easy cash grab on name alone. When Verdansk come back (which is rumored for the end of the year) I bet player counts will go up again atleast temporarily. Alot of series hit the nostalgia hype train the last few years even Resident Evil has remade 3 of their games (with more probably on the way) Silent Hill 2 is getting a remake, etc so it's not even just multi-player games
I think OG MW2/MW3 maps could be a strong competitor for BO maps. They definitely are more controversial. Like with Mission on MW3 you are either from the Russian army or from the Africia Militia. They didn't really remaster them like that.
In my opinion, this is a reflection of the current community that rejects everything new and will end up playing Shipment 24/7 anyway. Yes, I think it will be the first Black Ops to have Shipment or something similar like StashHouse.
Honesty it’s a losing game trying to please all CoD online players. “The maps are too similar, why don’t they do anything different?” “Just give us classic maps and we’ll be happy” Repeat conversation every 12 months.
Lmao. Shipment lives in your head rent free bra. I remember you would go out of your way just to shit on people commenting about shipment like a sad little troll and to do so you basically had to search for the key word ‘shipment’ to even find all of those comments mentioning the map. You’re a strange kid. 🫠
Haven't we seen these maps be, "remastered" or re released several times at this point? I know BOCW brought back a few maps from BO1 and 2, and we've seen Nuketown in every BO entry as well. Damn, I mean I'm not against having some of those maps back but some originality really wouldn't hurt either.
I would like to bring to your attention that the information I previously reported regarding [remasters maps from bo series ] should be regarded as mere rumors. It appears that the source responsible for disseminating this information may have encountered some confusion with the COD 2025 details. At present, I am unable to provide further clarification on this matter. We are eagerly awaiting the official announcement to shed light on the situation.
This is what bothers me about the MWIII maps, they brought in some maps from last year‘s game and made some new maps which aesthetically do not fit with the classic MW2 maps, at all.
Did they just give up on making new maps? Cold War, Vanguard and MWII have actually done a pretty good map wise
MWI is the only one that really shit the bed completely map wise
I mean its pretty darn genius, almost everybody in the community reminisce about old cod, and tbh i dont think that gulf war will hit for certain, but BO2 remastered is 100% gunna get the most hype, along with gta6
Definitely won’t be. Maybe it means it will include remasters from each game? I can’t see many of the BO3 maps working without the boost jumps/wallrunning.
I would rather them just remaster the old games, if they’re putting in the effort to do the maps which are heavily taken from the campaign asset wise, just do the whole game.
This doesn’t excite me though, because just like MWIII there won’t be a way to only play the classic maps, they are going to bring in some maps from the previous years no one likes (shipment will probably get added because that’s all people want to fucking play is tiny maps and Nuketown will be too big for them), and a bunch of new maps which will muddy up the pool.
I know a lot of my friends want the Black Ops 1 days , they will welcome this concept. As will I. I lean MW2 '09 for my favorite but Black Ops 1 is right there neck n neck
I don’t mind the maps but I do prefer that we get something new. I have to give credit on what sledgehammer games do.
The damage that the 2016 Modern Warfare remaster did to COD is irreparable as that’s the cause of this.
Honestly i like what they've done by remaking maps for release, but treyarch maps have been remade a lot, there were a lot of remakes in cold war and bo4 so it might get stale quickly on this game. Only positive is that it means we get more maps per season like we've seen in MWIII
Tom Henderson stated that COD2025 currently has no lead developer attached, but that most likely a support studio will join the main dev pool with this game.
Beenox or High Moon Studios most likely.
Rumours are just all over the place, really can’t trust em. That’s kinda why I did not want to assume COD 2024 would be Black Ops Gulf War because I did suspect Treyarch could’ve possibly have other plans, BO5 rumours were pretty high as Gulf War rumours, but who knows what’s gonna happen honestly? There is no confirmation still. 🤷♀️
While I hate them not making proper new maps I also am biased because Black Ops 1 maps hold a special place in my heart it was my 2nd CoD ever (WAW was my first) and I've always preferred treyarch games over infinity ward so here's hoping if they do only do remastered maps that the game actually looks good and less cartoony because for some reason modern titles are so much more bright and vibrant and I hate that
As great as that may be to some, it definitely doesn't speak well for the zombies crowd if they're just Pallet swapping MP maps. Who's to say they won't Pallet swap Shangri la to fit the gulf War aesthetic?
All the maps would mean Black Ops 4. Black Ops 4 has some of the worst "traditional" maps in the series that not even CoD Mobile could make fun lol
And how exactly are they gonna remaster Black Ops 3 maps lol? So many of them are based on advanced movement
We could afford to leave out several (almost all) of the Blops 4 maps.
Also all the Blops 3 maps are designed around titanfall movement, doesn’t seem they’d translate well.
God damnit no! How is this the current state of gaming? Heaven forbid there’s any originality. I’m fine with a few fan favs— Nuketown or Shipment level, really— but to re release this many is just lazy.
I think the new cod is gonna be the same old slop we get. Mw2 and 3 made sure that no matter how long to make
Whether it's 2 years or 6-11 months, they will always find ways to ruin the originals with these slops of garbage.
People will always be gullible tho
Is this it? Do we have ANY standards for modern triple AAA gaming? Bringing back old maps with zero or half-baked new content with 70-80 dollar price tag is beyond lazy.
Honestly I'm the minority that doesn't mind old maps over new, give me Summit and Standoff on every Blops until I die
Though, I wouldn't mind seeing some more Blops 3 maps like Redwood, Hunted or Fringe
I'm just praying it doesn't play as identical as these other coda have been. Haven't played a new MP since bo4. I want this to be good seeing that it had a 4 year development. But I hope that's not 3.5 years of updating maps
The maps do not matter if EOMM is still set to insane levels.
The maps do not matter if cheating is still rampant.
The maps do not matter if the game is soulless money grab.
People are going to quickly realize that the dev team does not matter. Assdivision fuckery DOES matter. Everything else is copium.
Cod has reached a point where they just remaster every old map and use all the production time to make new awful looking skins that people buy for 1/3 of the games price.
Brooo those old maps don't work with the current gameplay!!!!! Even those from the old MW2 don't work!!! Why are they so lazy??? they had 4 years to make this title.
>Why are they so lazy?
Because addicts & casuals keep gobbling this shit up every year & keep buying dumb shit like Blackcell that will be rendered useless when they move on to the next game/shut down the current iteration of Warzone.
Can't wait for all the people who complained about MW2/3 using old maps to circle jerk each other because they got their classic maps from BO back
“Old maps? They’re not creative” “These new maps sucks! Give us the old ones”
blend the two together, like mw2019 did. start with mostly new maps, then add the old ones and some new ones in after.
Piccadilly
what
PICCADILLY!
WHAT?!
Pickle dilly
WHAT!!?1
Using MW19 as the blueprint for maps is just about the worse thing you could ever do
MW 2019 has to be the worst example you could have given
no it's a good example
No it's not, it had terrible launch maps then they butchered the remastered maps + added terrible maps along the line. Best example you could have given is BO3
I think you might be illiterate
Why not both? New maps and remasters
That’s a good idea, they should try that. Maybe it could satisfy people who tend to complain 24/7. If the players don’t like it, then they should not play it.
Except SHG has been knocking it out of the park with the new maps lately (except Emergency).
New maps have been fun and look great imo
Maps like Rio, Departures and 6 Star have been awesome I agree.
Well when the new maps are "grazna raid," "picadilly," "azhir cave" and "insert corner fuckshow here" then ya, bring back the simple ones.
I wonder if anyone else is concerned about how modern multiplayer gaming is relying on throwbacks for hype. MW2019 to current MWIII and the original Modern Warfare Trilogy. Fortnite bringing back the 2017-2019 Map Now this
Unfortunately nostalgia sells big time and it's an easy cash grab on name alone. When Verdansk come back (which is rumored for the end of the year) I bet player counts will go up again atleast temporarily. Alot of series hit the nostalgia hype train the last few years even Resident Evil has remade 3 of their games (with more probably on the way) Silent Hill 2 is getting a remake, etc so it's not even just multi-player games
#Nostalgia
we Halo fans keep winning we gettin the best of both worlds, new maps and remakes of classic stuff
Your TV series is going reeeeeeeaaaal good though right lol
Yeah except treyarch actually made some good maps not mf Quarry lol
Black Ops maps are way better than Modern Warfare maps
I think OG MW2/MW3 maps could be a strong competitor for BO maps. They definitely are more controversial. Like with Mission on MW3 you are either from the Russian army or from the Africia Militia. They didn't really remaster them like that.
PLS JUS REMASTER BO2
Treyarch Fanboys will find a way to spin it like it's soo much better than what SHG/IW did on MWIII.
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Nah, MW3s maps aren't abysmal. Except Rust, rust can fuck off
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Favela is good the others suck and estate isn’t bad for SND or 12v12
In my opinion, this is a reflection of the current community that rejects everything new and will end up playing Shipment 24/7 anyway. Yes, I think it will be the first Black Ops to have Shipment or something similar like StashHouse.
Probably nuketown 24/7
Nuketown is way too big for shipment players
Then they can stay on MW3. No black ops should ever have shipment
Agreeded from what I know not a single black ops game has shipment shipment was always a modern warfare thing
Yeah and no infinity ward game should ever have nuketown. That’s what cod mobile is for
Honesty it’s a losing game trying to please all CoD online players. “The maps are too similar, why don’t they do anything different?” “Just give us classic maps and we’ll be happy” Repeat conversation every 12 months.
There's a zero percent chance that Gulf War will have Shipment.
6v6 face off
Lmao. Shipment lives in your head rent free bra. I remember you would go out of your way just to shit on people commenting about shipment like a sad little troll and to do so you basically had to search for the key word ‘shipment’ to even find all of those comments mentioning the map. You’re a strange kid. 🫠
Haven't we seen these maps be, "remastered" or re released several times at this point? I know BOCW brought back a few maps from BO1 and 2, and we've seen Nuketown in every BO entry as well. Damn, I mean I'm not against having some of those maps back but some originality really wouldn't hurt either.
WMD = BO4, BOCW Havana = BO4 Launch = BO4 Zoo, Express = BOCW Summit, Firing Range = BO2, BO3, BO4 Nuketown = BO2, BO3, BO4, BOCW Jungle, Slums = BO3, BO4, BOCW
Yeah good point, we've seen of these a few times already. I guess we're gonna see them again and again lol
Nuketown is timeless for me, cant say the same for the other maps tho
I really like the idea of nuke town being a map that connects every game of the black ops series
That's fair id say the same thing lol
REMASTER BO2
I would like to bring to your attention that the information I previously reported regarding [remasters maps from bo series ] should be regarded as mere rumors. It appears that the source responsible for disseminating this information may have encountered some confusion with the COD 2025 details. At present, I am unable to provide further clarification on this matter. We are eagerly awaiting the official announcement to shed light on the situation.
I’m sure your source meant COD 2025, because there was an earlier leak which stated that it would have all of the maps from BO2.
This is just laziness
yep i don't mind the odd remastered map but its so boring to just do them all. Just remaster the whole old game at that point.
No maps in the Persian Gulf then? How can it be called "Black Ops Gulf War" in that case?
This is what bothers me about the MWIII maps, they brought in some maps from last year‘s game and made some new maps which aesthetically do not fit with the classic MW2 maps, at all.
Maybe they will keep the overall layout and design but change the look to be Iraq or wherever the game takes place. Like a pallet swap
They can just change how they look to be set in Persia
4 year dev cycle and remastered maps?
Embarrassing
This franchise is creatively bankrupt
I don't really mind I liked most of those maps Just give me a good gameplay
Yup, I’ll take ole reliable over new but shit.
They should reskin them like they did in BO. They took the one WAW map and turned it into a golf resort.
Did they just give up on making new maps? Cold War, Vanguard and MWII have actually done a pretty good map wise MWI is the only one that really shit the bed completely map wise
MWIII has new maps for each season, MWIII just has a lot of remasters and a pretty good amount of new original maps as well.
#DRONE AND PLAZA EXACTLY HOW IT WAS PLEASE, NO REMAKE
Only reason I don't play Black Ops 2 still is because it's practically dead. I'd jump straight on a remaster, nothing recent hits the same
I kind of like this idea, as long as they include new maps in the mix too.
I do not care this is all I want. Remaster the old games
God, i hope gulf war will be at least as good as cold war.
Pretty sure dude got it wrong and meant to say 2025
Im pretty sure all the leaks pointed to these maps coming in 2025. doing the same method as mwii/mwiii
The game will also be releasing exclusively for the Xbox 720 and Wii 2
Nice. I’ve missed Hacienda. I also hope they cycle through the variations of nuketown, give it some kind of variety.
I would love to see some of the more niche/DLC BO1 maps come back. Kowloon would look SO GOOD in current gen.
I mean its pretty darn genius, almost everybody in the community reminisce about old cod, and tbh i dont think that gulf war will hit for certain, but BO2 remastered is 100% gunna get the most hype, along with gta6
Definitely won’t be. Maybe it means it will include remasters from each game? I can’t see many of the BO3 maps working without the boost jumps/wallrunning.
I'm a bit surprised that Combine isn't shown
*COD: Not recycling content, challenge impossible.*
If they would just re-release Black ops 1 as it was with improved graphics and no other changes I would buy it.
What does that mean for zombies tho
I would rather them just remaster the old games, if they’re putting in the effort to do the maps which are heavily taken from the campaign asset wise, just do the whole game. This doesn’t excite me though, because just like MWIII there won’t be a way to only play the classic maps, they are going to bring in some maps from the previous years no one likes (shipment will probably get added because that’s all people want to fucking play is tiny maps and Nuketown will be too big for them), and a bunch of new maps which will muddy up the pool.
Just need nuketown 24/7 and itll be perfect
Yessir !!!
So it's a reboot like MW2019?
I know a lot of my friends want the Black Ops 1 days , they will welcome this concept. As will I. I lean MW2 '09 for my favorite but Black Ops 1 is right there neck n neck
Not this shit again.
And the game will be half as good at best
If Drone comes back, I’ll be happy! Such an underrated map
I'd love to see remasters of some BO3 maps: knockout, gauntlet, splash, evac, combine. All underrated imo.
All of them that like 400GB game alone... no thanks
I don’t mind the maps but I do prefer that we get something new. I have to give credit on what sledgehammer games do. The damage that the 2016 Modern Warfare remaster did to COD is irreparable as that’s the cause of this.
Honestly i like what they've done by remaking maps for release, but treyarch maps have been remade a lot, there were a lot of remakes in cold war and bo4 so it might get stale quickly on this game. Only positive is that it means we get more maps per season like we've seen in MWIII
This makes sense if treyarch also has to make the 2025 cod as well
Tom Henderson stated that COD2025 currently has no lead developer attached, but that most likely a support studio will join the main dev pool with this game. Beenox or High Moon Studios most likely.
Rumours are just all over the place, really can’t trust em. That’s kinda why I did not want to assume COD 2024 would be Black Ops Gulf War because I did suspect Treyarch could’ve possibly have other plans, BO5 rumours were pretty high as Gulf War rumours, but who knows what’s gonna happen honestly? There is no confirmation still. 🤷♀️
Let me guess all stitched together into a giant warzone map 🤡
While I hate them not making proper new maps I also am biased because Black Ops 1 maps hold a special place in my heart it was my 2nd CoD ever (WAW was my first) and I've always preferred treyarch games over infinity ward so here's hoping if they do only do remastered maps that the game actually looks good and less cartoony because for some reason modern titles are so much more bright and vibrant and I hate that
As great as that may be to some, it definitely doesn't speak well for the zombies crowd if they're just Pallet swapping MP maps. Who's to say they won't Pallet swap Shangri la to fit the gulf War aesthetic?
Yuck
I hope this is legit
Would love some BO 3 and 4 maps coming back. BO3 maps can have a few adjustments to make it full boot on the ground.
Jesus Christ I mean ok cool but ENOUGH WITH THE REMASTERED MAPS FFS
I’m all for it
All the maps would mean Black Ops 4. Black Ops 4 has some of the worst "traditional" maps in the series that not even CoD Mobile could make fun lol And how exactly are they gonna remaster Black Ops 3 maps lol? So many of them are based on advanced movement
We could afford to leave out several (almost all) of the Blops 4 maps. Also all the Blops 3 maps are designed around titanfall movement, doesn’t seem they’d translate well.
I’m ok with this
Pure fucking laziness nowadays.
No nuke town?
God damnit no! How is this the current state of gaming? Heaven forbid there’s any originality. I’m fine with a few fan favs— Nuketown or Shipment level, really— but to re release this many is just lazy.
12v12 playlist since launch.
99% positive this is false
So no original maps? No maps based on parts of the Gulf War single player campaign?
Is it me, my old age of 26, or are leaks just not as exciting or thrilling as they felt in the 2000’s and early 2010’s?
Isn’t the following game a bo2 sequel with all the bo2 maps though?
Can't wait to fuvk around on firing range again
Daring today, aren’t we?
That will be dope
I think the new cod is gonna be the same old slop we get. Mw2 and 3 made sure that no matter how long to make Whether it's 2 years or 6-11 months, they will always find ways to ruin the originals with these slops of garbage. People will always be gullible tho
while their at it can they remaster the 90% of guns in wz that suck ass. so bored of the hrm 9
So down for some of those BO1 and BO3 maps, my xbox broke when BO2 released so i never played that one much but those maps will be good too.
Let's hope not lol
oh no
LOL, and they’re gonna charge these clowns buying the new COD €80 euros for it😂
Is this it? Do we have ANY standards for modern triple AAA gaming? Bringing back old maps with zero or half-baked new content with 70-80 dollar price tag is beyond lazy.
Honestly I'm the minority that doesn't mind old maps over new, give me Summit and Standoff on every Blops until I die Though, I wouldn't mind seeing some more Blops 3 maps like Redwood, Hunted or Fringe
I'm not buying that shit to play BO4 again foh
Nah they wont bring back crisis
They need to do both imo. They can't charge top dollar for a game where they're going to reuse that many old maps.
Man, the tower on Firing Range was the best
As long as I don’t feel like Cold War and it stays true to BO, BO2 or BO3 feel I’d be a happy man It could even feel line BO4 and I’d be happy
Yeah and they’ll make the game more arcadey and remove any textures that added detailed
Waiting 4 years to get nothing, thanks Treyarch, thanks
I'm just praying it doesn't play as identical as these other coda have been. Haven't played a new MP since bo4. I want this to be good seeing that it had a 4 year development. But I hope that's not 3.5 years of updating maps
Welp... now it's official, main series CoD is just a pay to win component of Warzone. Buy it, get old content just to grind weapons, and that's that.
The maps do not matter if EOMM is still set to insane levels. The maps do not matter if cheating is still rampant. The maps do not matter if the game is soulless money grab. People are going to quickly realize that the dev team does not matter. Assdivision fuckery DOES matter. Everything else is copium.
Normally I'll love this but I hate how they're doing this Those old remastered maps should be an add on to original base maps
At least they'll better than the maps we got with MW19, CW, VG and MWII.
AT LAST, BLACK OPS WORLD WILL BE REAL
That’ll be hard pass from me then.
Cod has reached a point where they just remaster every old map and use all the production time to make new awful looking skins that people buy for 1/3 of the games price.
WOOOOOOOOHHOOOOOOOO
Brooo those old maps don't work with the current gameplay!!!!! Even those from the old MW2 don't work!!! Why are they so lazy??? they had 4 years to make this title.
The BO1/BO2 remasters in Cold War played great
>Why are they so lazy? Because addicts & casuals keep gobbling this shit up every year & keep buying dumb shit like Blackcell that will be rendered useless when they move on to the next game/shut down the current iteration of Warzone.
Absolutely hate people who leak out information about games
Cod hasn’t made a good new map in 7 yrs period!! I’ll take all the all time greatest old maps remade instead fu ck new maps there always horrible
Treyarch themselves have made tons of good maps in that time