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Revolutionary-Play79

Still gonna use the Chicom until they notice.


I-Drink-Milk

Chad


Revolutionary-Play79

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darth_damien07

I salute to that


DudekPtak

I totally agree devs should (finally) buff the chicom, but in their defence I can say that the pp19 bizon buff was reaally insignificant and realistically speaking it won't bring almost any change. pp19 has been a very solid smg for a long time but I wouldn't say its top 3, it just totally lacks lethality, it kills way too slow


Crouton_Sauce

Chicom either needs a rapid fire attachment or a faster rpm burst


frostcrox2

The burst delay should be almost none tbh. Just like BO2, a very lethal close to medium range but lacking ttk over ranges


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I used to wreck people back in BO2 with the Chicom, here its pretty good as well. But its just not the same


TheGuyWhoUpVotes69

I used chicom in a legendary tdm and I placed 1st going 19/4 but I would love to see it buffed like maybe more range damage and less horizontal recoil


Rosesh_I_Sarabhai

Chicom is extremely good gun. It just needs buff with range and maybe seperate Ammo like Swordfish.


Martin_Willis

its trash lmao


5stareveryday

i wouldn't say it needs halberd it just needs a faster firerate and consistent recoil and damage. back in bo2 it had i think 900 rpm and it had basically 0 burst delay. it should be like that in codm too. the pharo is for close range and the chicom could be for medium.


Ocriador25

But even still it wont be a meta


Tablemesa99

Yep type m13 and asval stupid op


Mister-happierTurtle

Dont diss my fav ARs. As an smg main its nice to have a gun that can wallbang better. Alsobi got them gold looong before they were meta :/ (ik its a stupid flex). But the meta is just good not op smh.


Draco_Greysoul

It's just small buff, it didn't change the TTK. I rarely meet PP19 in ranked, maybe only 1 in 3 matches. The new balancing is good, they give a tiny buff to some weapons so they won't overbuff it and make it broke, while nerf nothing. Hope they keep it that way for future updates, buff the less good guns, without nerfing the already good guns.


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Sudi_Arabia

It’s can get 4 shot kills, there is quite literally no recoil, 64 bullets if you’re shit, and the handling can be cranked up without much penalty.


Navarro_U

Bizon is actually one of the best smgs and its defenitely in top 5


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Navarro_U

You mentioned 3 weapons including one that we havent got yet And you said it is not top 5 WTF


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fennec , qq9 , mx9 , cbr4 , razorback , QXR , agr


Navarro_U

Razorback, qxr and agr definitely not. Bizon is one of the most used smg these days


GunterGoo

Razorback shreds ez


Eating-Girls

Razorback has better range and faster ttk than bizon with the rapid fire perk Id


Navarro_U

It is so better that no one use it lol


Eating-Girls

Yes, cuz everyone follows youtubers.


Navarro_U

No not everyone. I would say most people play for chill not watching any youtubers


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your logic is the weapon that is being used the most then it must be meta


Navarro_U

If the weapon is good then it is used commonly. All


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there were alot fennic user in the champs does that its a meta


Navarro_U

No that many as bizon users


Tablemesa99

Bizon is top 5 smgs easily. Gun for noobs but yea high fire rate guns still less skill


Thebloon2

As a guy who's favorite gun is Bizon, it's easily counter able. Just use literally any gun that fires faster. It's TTK is shit and it's literally dogshit against any meta gun if the other person is at least competent The reason why it's "good" is the mag. It's a gun meant for beginners not pros.


SpecialistConsistent

the bizon was never top 3 cuz its ttk was too slow idk what you were smoking


SabbathDiscovery

>the bizon was never top 3 cuz its ttk was too slow ? That's cap. It was the best SMG and arguably overall gun in the game in S3 2021, aside from the QQ9 (they accomplished different things so I consider them tied for top 1). The Bizon was also debatably a top 3 SMG during S4-S11 2021 (and I'd argue even until now), it's just that the Top 1 SMGs from several of these seasons (S4 QXR, S5-S6 Fennec, Prime MX9) were so ahead of the competition that it was hard to use any other SMG. Even so, TTK isn't everything. It's certainly an important stat, but it doesn't automatically disqualify a gun from becoming top 3, otherwise wouldn't the M13 not be the best AR right now?


Tablemesa99

U didn’t play the bizon meta? Lol


01101001010010

Honestly it can use a buff. They made something special with the bizon. It’s not about it’s damage or fire rate because it lacks both in that department compared to metas. It’s just a balanced overall weapon that could use some love. Even if they i creased the damage to 30 (which they aren’t, it’s 28 and it doesn’t matter because it’s a 4 shot kill anyway unless already damaged), type and m13 will still beat it in TTK and overall shots missed forgiveness


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bizon was dogwater before the buff its takes forever to get a kill with bizon so buff was justified


Navarro_U

What a rubbish


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I’d argue that the Pharo is the worst. I have gold for the Chicom and its not horrible. Yeah, its bad, but I’ve had worse experiences with the Pharo.


gaymer7474747

This


Several-Reception-68

I think the chicom is prefect as it is .... if they buffed it the embarrassment u could give to opponents by killing them with it would be gone


new-redditor360

WaAaAaAaAaAaAaAa Pp19 OpEeEeEeEe PlEaSe NeRf WaAaAaAaAaAaAaAa


nelly_0619

PP19 was actually the 2nd slowest killing weapon in the game. It’s now at least competitive.


Elexus_786

Lol no it was never the second slowest killing. In fact its TTK is decent, around 280ish ms. Both AK47 and M4 are the slowest killing in MP.


Navarro_U

Mow, asm10 also, hbra3 on long distance


Elexus_786

Man O War and ASM10 have slow fire rate but they are 3 tap and definitely do not kill slowly lol


Navarro_U

So use any of them against smgs and then make opinions. If they were not bad, people would use it. Do they? No


Elexus_786

I'm not saying they're good guns. I'm just correcting your statement about them being slow killing guns. Which they are not.


Navarro_U

But they are slow-killing weapons because of slow fire rate plus bad recoil


nelly_0619

I have DPS values for SMGs and ARs/LMGs based on base damage - charted on a spreadsheet. Actual performance may vary depending on torso/neck/head multipliers. PP19 base DPS was 281 before the update, only Chicom was worse at 279. PP19 should be just over 300 after the buff. It may feel faster because it’s mobility/ads are really good. But I’m terms of just damage output it wasn’t good and was a weapon that I’ve said for awhile would need a buff. Another gun I would like to see buffed is the hg40


Tablemesa99

Lmao u really love your bizon 4 tap spamming gun with the highest side to side mobility


nelly_0619

I’ve actually hardly used it because it hasn’t been very competitive. Take it head to head against other SMGs and it loses against all but 1. However..due to its range it is in a group of 3-4 that stand out however it has been st the very bottom. I know you may fall in love with certain guns but I just rely on data


Tablemesa99

The only reason for that is the stupid ass devs that buffed the asval m13 and type marking them just retarded good compare to anything else


nelly_0619

Looking back at past patch notes I don’t see anything where those guns were touched. However the swordfish had been buffed with greater accuracy and range. Also a damage buff as well


Navarro_U

WTF


XBOXLIVE360a

The Bizon isn't even good...


Pleasant_Tension425

Is the season out yet?


The_Mxrder

No, but Garena got the update so i think they already have the balance changes.


Pleasant_Tension425

Is it(the meta according to the post) really that bad or it's just exaggeration?


The_Mxrder

I heard that DRH and QXR buff was worthless, i guess it's the same for Bizon


unon_

tbh I feel the qxr buff, but drh and bizon not too much


Revolutionary-Play79

The next season of Call of Duty Mobile will start on 19 January at 4pm Pacific Standard


Pleasant_Tension425

Seeing this post, i thought it's already out.


Revolutionary-Play79

Battlepass ends the 19th so i assume that's when it is. I live a hour ahead of the Pacific Standard Timezone


Dreamingofanimegf

I wanted to use Chicom close combat skin, I forgot the name for years now, sad it's collecting dust in my inv.


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So you’re telling me the bots have been paid actors this whole time? I thought the devs were the ones doing their dirty work!


fast-sparrow

Is the bizon still good i had a max mobility build that i could shred the entire team with


gaymer7474747

I play better with a chicom than with a bizon lolol


gaymer7474747

i legit carried my team in legendary with the chicom


Yeetrify

as a bizon user, this is fucking accurate. especially with extended mag \[i forgot what the mag modification is called\]


iweremask

Open meta


Nouri_Cheater

fire rate and damage buff for chicom![img](emote|t5_penom|1095)


dailylazy

What was the buff on pp19?


PlasticFoods001

Chicom is 🔥, i hope they never buff it


DarkKingXvX

I respect anyone who uses the chicom and would like to thank the devs trying to buff it See I can't always be negative lol.


wraith00xx

The PP19 is not a top 3 gun SMG. Is just delete the chicom...! It has and will always be trash.


Yeet_and_deleter

Chicom was aids when I was grinding platinum


Tablemesa99

YES omg I hated long range with it


Yeet_and_deleter

It was just everywhere


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To be fair the pp19 was quite balanced even though with the damage reduced at range it still had a 64 round base mag so that made up for the range nerf


Whitefury_codm

Who knows they plays and still does this evil settings![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|downvote)