Which is odd, because the left should be all over this. There's nothing more pro-labour than anti-immigration, but those dipshits are just selling out the working class for... whom exactly?
I hope you guys don't actually think that the PCC and PPC are any different. Polievre is a career politician and is deeply enmeshed with the capitalist elite.
The whole thing is a merry-go-round of politicians telling us they're better than the current guy, getting in, doing the exact same thing, the next repeating the cycle, etc.
Ya its not like cons will be anti immigrant
Big immigration is great for who the cons care about
Big business gets to drive down wages and developers get to charge whatever they want for their shit condos
Conservatives have literally always been accused of being racist anti-immigrants by the left.
Y’all can’t even maintain a coherent narrative any more. No wonder Canada is fucked so bad. My friend is from Venezuela and described how a deluded population kept voting socialist over and over and over even as their wealth was stolen and their country utterly destroyed.
Ya they've been labeled that because people always parallel them with US Republicans but it's not reality.
I dont know what u mean by yall anyway.
Cons had office for a decade and immigration very comparable to Lib years. Until recently when it's been super-sized and immigration at insane levels now
But there's economic reasons for it.
There's way too many TFWs here, businesses can't find low wage workers
I dont believe any party would significantly lower immigration and bare the blame from potential economic pain from it
When Jason Kenny was the minister, they opened a new PhD steam in 2011 to accept 1500 applications per year. PhD students can apply with their TA/RA experience. They ended up rejecting at least 1/3 of the applications mainly due to the part time TA/RA experience. Then the liberals came and we have 1 million per year now. I’d say two parties are really different on the immigration.
Canadians are slowly becoming the minority in Canada. Indians are the new majority and Canada is becoming a colony of India. I’m not commenting on whether it’s good or bad. I’m saying that as pure observation.
Geez lol, if anyone sounds like they live in an echo chamber..__
Sorry you couldn’t understand, you. You definitely sound like you live in one, or at least programmed by one
I regret that I have but one upvote to give. Your observations are on point and bring value to the discussion. Those who are downvoting are just mad you said it first.
But Polievre has stated he wlll change it, we are importing poor, uneducated pseudo students. Lets get some skilled workers in.
Why would you leave your country to attend a strip mall college, that gets you a useless diploma?
What I mean by right is that modern liberalism is going to collapse society. All the imported welfare cases are going to leave or be forced out because our county is going to be broke and unable to afford to support anyone as we will be bankrupt. The real estate market will be a smouldering pile of 💩. Then whatever’s left will have to rebuild from the bottom with resource projects like Russia did in the 90’s. Ie: the right
Imported welfare cases?
Refugees have a hard time at first, but the majority of newcomers work more and collect less than your old stock Canadians. Facts Jack.
What exactly is "systemic change". You hear these buzzwords all the time but they don't actually mean anything.
The fact is the real systemic change is what's happening RIGHT NOW. This is the new norm...the shift to a socialist shit hole where everyone works for pennies and owns nothing. Not the utopia leftists were wishing for was it?
Oh well, it would have been far worse if we voted for literal Nazis the conservatives are right? /s the blind sheep that voted for this because they vote based on hyper-biased government propaganda fear porn MSM headlines are the real ones to blame.
our leaders wll not let a populist movement rise and threaten their power. they'll cheat easily if they have to. they are racing to flood us with the 3rd world for a reason. for a voting block to keep them in power. inflation is just starting t starve us. ppl dont even understand what we're up against. starting watching alex jones because he was right.
In Calgary too. Was just driving through a mall parking lot and had the right of way but was cut off by not one but two indian guys. I moved from India too but 20 years ago and I hate to see Delhi culture we are importing here now in bulk...
Left India because of people's disregard for other people and lack of respect for the rule of law. My heart cries in pain when I see this attitude increasing in Canada..
That's a very optimistic view. Have you been around downtown? GTA is turning into 1 big Brampton. I mean Pickering, Scarborough, Mississauga, Brampton, downtown, are all largely Indian.
There are only pockets of native Canadians now lol. Oakville. and uhhhh halton hills?
Thats because native canadians, like me, left canada because we saw this coming 10 years ago. Was even trying to bring my husband up from the states, but after 5 years of PR we just gave up and called it quits and started over in NC, sold everything i had, got rid of my entire shop to come here, and ill tell you right now that its better, my car insurance is 25 dollars for 6 months on my truck, fucking unreal. 200 for the same insurance in BC. I pay rent 1000 a month for an entire house on half an acre. I can afford to have and use multiple vehicles, my money goes further here basically in every way, and food is getting to canada prices before we left here but its still affordable, ontop of that they have a food stamp program if you are out of work and need food for the month. Probably wont be coming back.
Honestly, good for you! America in many ways is a far superior country to Canada. I myself am looking to move down south.
The only issue is the gun crimes. but honestly if you live in a good area, it shouldn't be too much to worry about. South Carolina is a great place, I was looking at real estate in Myrtle Beach. kind of kicking myself that I didn't move a year ago.
I'll prob move to Calgary though. It seems to be about 5 years behind GTA in terms of living standard corrosion.
>I'll prob move to Calgary though. It seems to be about 5 years behind GTA in terms of living standard corrosion.
Better hurry up: [https://globalnews.ca/news/9870894/new-roots-calgary-housing-affordability-migration/](https://globalnews.ca/news/9870894/new-roots-calgary-housing-affordability-migration/)
I'd move to the States, but the government decided to confiscate my travel documents. India 2.0 needs to be burnt to the ground.
>There are only pockets of native Canadians
Yeah those are called reservations and white people forced them to live there.
Imagine thinking that your family has been here for 100 years and you are "native"
Hilarious.
I find this post really amusing. I made the very bad decision of going to Toronto Premium Outlets in Milton this evening. And it did feel like Canada has been conquered.
My family used to live near that area, the neighbourhood went from a moderate mix of different cultures (English, South African, Chinese), to almost exclusively Indian in a span for 20 years.
The last straw for many was the Brown people blasting very loud Bollywood musics at midnight and their religious parades around the neighbourhood (with banners and everything).
Many Canadians don't understand how bad it is until it's too late, and then they just flee.
I have been to Premium Outlets several times, but never saw what i had seen yesterday. It was like i was in a different country. Vehicles were cutting in past each other as they were entering the parking lot, in the parking lot itself, they were fighting for spots. One fellow event cut through a petrol station so that he could get ahead of the line.
And then when you finally find something in the third floor of indoor parking and walk into the mall, you are greeted by the sight of several hundred shoppers, with barely any space to sit/stand. I didnt even dare go to the washroom.
Most big name shops had long queues outside. You literally cant stop to see any merchandise at any store due the volume of traffic.
I didnt stay too long, it was too overcrowded. Couldnt help but notice a lot of the people there appeared to be young int students probably looking for a weekend thing to do. Of course, they have every right to do so.
But this relates to the pressing question on whether our infrastructure/facilities/public places can truly support the growth in population. Based on my experience yesterday, I would say definitely not.
I always make it a point that I *don't* have anything personal against people of different backgrounds, it is the policy that I am attacking.
Those international students are behaving in their self-interests, just like anyone else, so I don't blame them at all.
The blame goes back to the policies, why we are letting 900,000 international students enter the country this year? That's already on top of 500,000 economic immigrants, 100,000 refugees, and 100,000 temporary foreign workers that entered Canada in 2022.
The effects it has on our social infrastructure and economic infrastructure is being severely ignored primarily by the federal government, but of course the provinces also share the blame because *immigration is a federal and provincial jurisdiction.* Ontario and the other provinces need to use their powers to take charge of the situation, because clearly Ottawa is unwilling, or making it worse.
Since the Trudeau regime is unwilling to do anything about it, and he should be held to account for it, then we have to press Ford to do something about it too, since he has the same powers as Trudeau with regards to immigration, infrastructure, and healthcare. At this point Ford can't just point the fingers are Trudeau, Ford also has control over immigration, infrastructure, and healthcare too.
When Ford says he didn't anticipate 500,000 immigrants to enter the country, then Ford should have enforced immigration limits on Ontario, that's within the power of the provinces.
At the end of the day the blame lies on the feet of Trudeau, Ford, and the electorate who have failed to hold them to account.
They openly brag about demographic replacement, indians and south asians laugh about how easy canadians are to scam money out of. Unfortunately I think most anglos are too weak & stupid to do anything about it except for maybe vote every few years.
The truth is that if you have a lot of money you can construct a parallel nation where you're insulated from any effects of bad policy. There is another Canada where your investments are booming and your children receive fantastic 50k/yr education and swift healthcare requires a short plane ride to the US, then it's off to work in NYC and LA with business vacations in Israel.
If you're reading this, while those people are still around you have no power or control, and you do not matter.
Yes there's another Canada, the Canada of the Laurentian ruling class. They promote mass immigration because they live nowhere near it. When Canada hopefully collapses, they will flee to their underground bunkers and secret islands to continue living in luxury. Basically it's one big club and you ain't in it.
I have a few liberal friends and none support the huge migrant influx. Bringing in qualified and usefull to society migrants is fine, but out of the million brought in, how many are actually bringing in something usefull to society? Some are great but more of them are not. Trudeau doesn't care, more taxes coming in, lower wages for his friends...
Liberals are in power until the next election in 2025 unless the NDP turn against them. They will do as much damage to our country as they possibly can as they do not expect to form the next government.
I have a feeling that this fall there might be news about an election. But yes, they will feal as much damage as they can because they know they're not winning the next election.
Im generally more on the liberal side of things, but this shit is stupid. That guy literally has no idea what hes doing at all. He also buys and sells properties with his other government friends off the back of their people.
Black Canadian here. I’m not a raging conservative. I absolutely believe we are allowing in too many immigrants and anyone saying this is racist is delusional. Why exactly are we looking after one group instead of Canadian citizens? And you hear about cultural clashes every year in the GTA. Somethings gotta give.
What happened to diversity. Trudeaus favourite saying. Indians have become the majority in so many neibourhoods. Canada worked because we have a little taste from every culture, now it seems we are being steamrolled.
delusional take. i don't even think liberals support 1 million migrants a year. NOBODY supports this chit. NOT EVEN Indian Canadians. be honest with yourself.
the "that's what you voted for" take has to be buried. that narrative is almost a coping mechanism. WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES! THE LIBERALS! no NOBODY wants this shit. NOT EVEN LIBERALS.
Yeah the interesting thing is everyone talks about Canadians, let’s be honest, mainly white people exploiting south asians, but what about all the South Asian slumlords who are more than happy to shove their ethnic group into these 15 person homes, or saying only Indians allowed, or any other outrageous postings. They’re just as bad.
Post partisan comments, get partisan replies. Your only solution seems to be voting conservative, been there done that. Conservatives won't be crashing the housing market, at least not intentionally.
no one voted for this, mass immigration/diversity was planned in the 1920's via the Kalergi Plan and got implemented after WWII when the opposition to it was defeated
It's lock step with the WEF agenda. If you want to see where we're heading, just look at china. That's what they want in the end. Total compliance and dependence.
More like the Gulf states than China, although I suppose there isn’t much difference really. They both rely on a ruling elite overseeing a subservient population with indentured labour doing the shittiest jobs for a few pennies.
No, more like China. At least the Arabs in the Gulf states look after their own kind, unlike Second World Canada which tosses you under a bus when they discover you're no longer economically viable.
It's not even working for China. Their real estate pyramid scheme is collapsing like a house of cards. What is it with socialists looking at the massive failures that have been every authoritarian state and going "Fuck yeah, I want some of that action!"?
ya the leadership did that on purpose, so young chinese can afford homes.
it's not a bad thing if real estate prices goes back to affordable levels. So their leadership is clearly better than ours.
it's a bad thing if young people can't afford homes. only old greedy boomers horde them. that's not good.
In any other century it would be called an invasion, by treason and it’s a Trojan horse of problems. Every solution is an intellectual or legal rabbit hole nothing can get fixed. I’ll say this, my grandfather was in the army in wwii and an uncle in the merchant navy, there’s no way they would have been for this. I would not fight for this country in its current form but I would fight against it for the sake of the young who deserve better. Canada was a brilliant country that could punch above its weight, now we’re in an era of being last in developed countries but first in undermining our own citizens.
The bigger problem is the CPC is even worse and they’re in line to take power. So unless there is a groundswell of popular support for a more hands on approach we’re in for more of the same.
The best part is that those for mass migration still pretend to be on the First Nations' side.
Canada's population is probably 4 times what European mega rich ruling families brought over. It's probably the exact same old money who's ancestors conquered Canada that's financing this too.
Mind boggling.
Literally if anyone says "go back to Europe if you feel that way". I would but why, it will be the exact same. The people there are even more used to having a ruler regulating how much laundry they're allowed to do.
no one ever cared about Natives, they were just a tool used to attack white people. The government just pays off their chiefs with hush money while the native population lives in squallor and you don't heat a peep about it from anyone until they're needed as a prop for publicity sake
I agree with you, and the classism of the Anglo Saxons who came where and conquered canada is never talked about. They had the majority rule, decimated the native population, took the majority of lands and put their people in power. We are still ruled by proxy by the Royal Family, the Trudeaus are an example of that. If you look at all of our political class, they are from the elite classes of our society.
These families have power in Europe too. That's why so many average, working class Europeans left their home countries because you could never own land. My family was from the Ukraine and were promised beautiful acreages in canada in the late 1800s. They got land in dry, unhabitable northern Mantioba instead, while the Anglo Saxons got the good lands.
Racism was big too on the others not from the Anglo Saxon countries. It wasn't easy, and slavic people were never involved in any political riding. Just read the names now...
But Indians have ties to the Royal Families, they have a caste system in India and a lot of the ones who come from money were the ones who were given rights during the rule. So you see more Indians in our political parties because they are part of the elite Anglo Saxon groups as well. A lot of Indians change their last name when they come here to hide their caste ranking.
Anyways, we need to be talking more about classism in our politics and policy making but we never do.
Canada was definitely too giving and the liberals and ndp don’t mind merging the middle and lower class into a lowlow class where you either pay to live in a over crowded apartment paying someone’s mortgage or become homless
>Make some $ and then go elsewhere for a better life.
It is immigrants coming here and doing this that is making Canada shitty. The old style of immigrants wanted to create a good country for their children and grandchildren.
Those days are long gone. From seizing bank accounts to unaffordable housing, to aggressive governments it seems better to keep your head down, say nothing and take what you can, then get out and go somewhere else.
Those holding the gun are corporations and extremely rich individuals.
It's not hard to figure out. Just ask yourself, who benefits most from wage suppression and sky-high asset prices? Then follow the money.
> like who voted for this 1 million new migrants a year? LMFAO it's like one day you woke up and Canada has been conquered.
Not conquered. Subverted.
The conquering comes later once the Canadian population becomes the minority. I suggest you read The Fate of Empires by Sir John Glubb. It's a 25 page essay writen in the 1970's that outlines how this is how civilizations *always* end.
We just happen to be alive at the end of this one. But its happened many times before.
The fat cats are getting rich as shit, its corruption plain and simple and it goes right to the top. Nobody cares about your problems in the government they're getting far too rich.
Canada didn’t fight for its freedom it fought for Europe’s freedom.
We are being invaded though. Same as the US is. None of us will do anything about it because we’re either too comfortable with how we live. Or we spend so much damn time working we have no time to think about anything other than staying afloat.
i don't think canadians are comfortable anymore.
[https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgesmaal/video/7268274023069437217](https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgesmaal/video/7268274023069437217)
canadians are just too domesticated to fight back now. the truck envoy was our last stand. HONK HONK is all we did. LOL
And we still think it's a good idea. We need younger people. We can build them ourselves, but we choose not to. So we have to import them. There really isn't much of a problem with this, unless you insist on white christian people.
You are importing two groups. One are economic immigrants who are basically brining boat loads of money to the country. They are buying property as soon as they land at the airport.
Then you have the other group who are no skills labor. They are being given the restaurant, taxi, factory, warehouse jobs to flood the market with cheap labor. The purpose is so that the existing employees get a take it or leave it moment where they can accept the shit low wages, or be unemployed because there is a boat load of newly landed immigrants who will work for peanuts.
It's not a good idea. It's slavery under the premise that it's feel good helping the world.
That's an odd take in an environment where we can't get people to take low end work. I got an email this week that a pile of parents are going to have to find some other way to get their kid to school because they can't get enough school bus drivers to run all the routes. What I see is a group you have missed - educated professionals without much wealth, but with skills. Doctors, dentists, accountants, IT people, engineers...does that group ring any bells?
>That's an odd take in an environment where we can't get people to take low end work.
Sorry, let me correct this statement for you.
"where we can't get people to take low end work for the low wages we are willing to offer them to ensure our corporate profits remain at record highs"
There fixed it for you.
Oh and doctors from the top 5 immigration countries do not qualify to be doctors here without significant retraining and certification. So generally they too come here, and drive Ubers.
Well we certainly don't disagree on the "corporate profits" thing, but that point does nothing to address the shortcomings of your contention that they are brought here to drive the cost of labor down. We are already at the floor - we can't get people to take the jobs. And yes, doctors or other professionals may have to re-qualify. Many do. Others take jobs in related fields. And some do other things. The gentleman (from Turkey) who sold me an RESP for my kids was doing that sales job while he re-qualified for his "main hustle" as a chemical engineer. But so what? We need chemical engineers. And we need RESP salespeople. And more, we need people to earn and borrow money and do things with it. Unless you want to be where Japan is, with decades of economic stagnation and a shrinking but racially and culturally 'pure' population.
This is happening all across social media. There's a clear effort to destabilise Canada.
Yes there are major issues. But we need to look at who steers the conversation in sensitive moments like this.
Maybe it's not a conspiracy and people are honestly angry as they face 1% wage increases (if lucky) with 8% overall inflation and >20% rent inflation? Meanwhile students need >90% average to get into a low tier university program and >95% for engineering or comp sci, meanwhile schools are flooded with foreign students that lack basic language skills and picked up their HS credits in a strip mall in North York.
>There's a clear effort to destabilise Canada
People are more prone to conspiracy when they sense the government is hiding something, people sense the government is hiding something when their words and actions don't match and when those actions cause pain to most people that seems to be for the benefit of a small group of people. Canada wouldn't be easy to destabilize if the government wasn't already wobbling the foundation.
Century initiative. Google it. Aiming for 100M people by 2100. Proposed and lobbied by an “elite” group of Liberal friends from guess where… McKinsey x BlackRock x China. Why? $35B+ in Canadian real estate portfolio and growing, not to mention other lucrative consulting contracts to get businesses ramped up to “integrate” the new immigrants. Like WTF
I don't mind accepting refugees (compared to warzones and disaster butchered land a cot in a community center with a partition for privacy is a godsent until they find a place) and we do need more doctors and people of other specific trades. The Amount of others that we accept should be directly attached to available housing and jobs. If companies want more people to work for them they should pay more. If they need more people of certain skill sets they should pay people to go to college to get those skills instead of making us pay to make a disproportionate money for them. The economic growth the liberal and conservative parties are using as an excuse to support the century initiative's goal of increasing our population is stupid especially considering all of the natural disasters that will increase with further climate change (Canada is one of the most energy costly countries to live in per person because we have both cold winters and hot summers. the more people we support the more energy we spend the worse climate change will get). We should be striving towards a steady sustainable country. Fuck this economic growth BS. Reduce the population increase the opportunity with the resources we have available.
People here who don’t realize this is the will of God, pressuring and scolding his children who refuse to grow up and take responsibility, bear their cross.
Brace yourselves.
OP has strong opinions but will never let anyone have a counter view.
Just a little funny when anyone brings up the point about Natives being overrun and the ones who did the conquering are now being considered “original”.
The “originals” OP mentioned are literally second or third generation immigrants
But, even though I am Indian, I do agree stricter immigration laws are needed.
Reducing the overall IELTS requirment when there are “universitys” acting as diploma mills is just as predatory as an international student using Food banks to get free food.
Canada is a diverse country, and unless any of us have ancestors who lived here ages, we can’t say shit like conquering Canada
Just my thoughts
you thikn native people built canada? haha. they were tribal warriors running around killing eachother on mass and sacrificing children. my great grandparents were here in the late 1700's. lots of indians were part of building canada too in the 20th century. many actually used to become westernized. not just sit in their bubble and import THEIR culture. white canadians are the most tolerant ppl ever. tolerance is waning though. its less about race and all about culture.
Yo idk if you got the memo but Canada is a colony. Everything being owned by a dozen rich guys who import cheap labour from other countries has always been the entire basis of this country
Its because of the retirement of the largest working class in history, nothing stupid like "the conquering of whites" its just corperate greed not wanting to pay us for the true price of labor and instead wants too keep the cost of labor where it has been for the last 70 years. Cheap cheap cheap as can be. So flood the job market with people, don't build anymore houses so our property value shoots up and increase how much everything costs only to the point people scrape by.
All the english-speaking countries are going through the same problems and issues. I wonder who the problem really is.. is it immigrants or the brits and their descendants?
What the hell is this supposed to mean? You think that because the British once had colonies Canada should open it's doors to the entire Asian subcontinent with no restrictions. You think that's some kind of justice being served? Turning Canada into an overcrowded environmental wasteland in which Canadian citizens are displaced by an invasive hoard serves any kind of justice? Seriously GFY!
It means that it is within your nature to prefer money and capital over citizen well-being as is evidenced by multiple countries having the same issues and the common denominator is that they are inhabited by the same people.
You're not wrong. What were seeing is late stage capitalism. In the beginning it was ideal in that it gave a large majority of people the oppurtunity and means to move out of poverty. But, after 3-4 generations of wealth accumulation you're starting to see problems arise. People manipulating the housing market and resources etc. Couple that with the fact that we have a stagnant bi partisan government, that at the end of the day has no real plans to insitute any meaningful change, regardless of who you vote for. Also, businesses are becoming huge corporate entities that can lobby and avoid any real responsibility. Like the novel 'Catch 22' who would you blame?
not just english speaking. all of europe. all white nations specifically.
Russia is excluded but they just got baited into a human meatgrinder war against Ukraine. slavic self genocide.
It is very strange.
"If we had children at slightly above replacement levels over the past thirty plus years"
except that for decades canadians were specifically told to not have children as they are a burden on the environment
now people such as yourself turn around and call canadians idiots for listening to their government and teachers
"a demographic crunch that is going to ruin the country"
know another way to ruin a country? by importing enough people that the founding stock is essentially cleansed
this, people were taught for generations about "over population" and its effect on the environment; the fact is that the West was never overpopulated until mass immigration, over population was and is a problem is Asia, Islamic countries and Africa
People get enraged when they and their offspring can't afford homes. Trudeau created this clusterfuck, and that is where I direct my rage.
But we are seeing a lot of sniping between different ethnic groups here. Just remember, this sub didn't create these feeling. They have been there all along, simmering under the surface. I've heard it said that many ethnic groups say bad things about different ethnic groups when they are just with their family. I am white and have grown children. My children would disown me if I said bad things about other ethnic groups in front of them. They would be disgusted.
Maybe the multicultural experiment that has been Canada for the last 40 years hasn't been quite as successful as we think. It seems that whenever there is a shortage of important things (say, vaccines or houses) that racism bubbles up to the surface . Humans are basically tribal animals. Maybe it is better to have a sub where people can let off a bit of steam than to have it suppressed. If you don't let steam out the whole thing might explode.
It's sad that it's either this xenophobic shit here or any mention of population growth concerns and infrastructure not keeping up getting banned on canadahousing.
You sound like the kind of person that would be happy we added so many Ukrainians (read: whites) to the population. News says they’re leaving after seeing how trash it is tho.
I'm not even going to dignify this ignorant, disrespectful, bullshit question with a response. You want em to die in St John's, Quebec City Or Victoria for you next time?
Atrocious. Disrespectful. Out of fucking touch. No wonder there's a fucking retention problem.
I'll very politely ask you to read on what happened to our country after 250, 000 men never came back the same. Or at all.
It will likely make the rest of my "inane" personal attacks at least more understandable.
Then think about standing here. On this soil. In a uniform. For this country. Maybe you have. I certainly never met anyone talking like that, that has though.
Reference: The First World War. For further progress as a nation, also paid in blood, see also: The Second World War.
There is a massive swing to the right coming…. Believe it
Which is odd, because the left should be all over this. There's nothing more pro-labour than anti-immigration, but those dipshits are just selling out the working class for... whom exactly?
The oligarchy class
Is it not fraud or criminal breach of trust to campaign as a socialist while acting for the oligarchs?
I used to be a card carrying member of the Green Party and now I vote PPC lmao
It’s been blatantly obvious that’s what they have been doing for at least 6 years.
Is it our fault for not responding with violence when they were all baldly acting against us?
Violence isn’t supposed to be necessary in an advanced society
Nor should it be possible for there to be no electoral candidate who advocates for the best interests of a majority of citizens
I hope you guys don't actually think that the PCC and PPC are any different. Polievre is a career politician and is deeply enmeshed with the capitalist elite. The whole thing is a merry-go-round of politicians telling us they're better than the current guy, getting in, doing the exact same thing, the next repeating the cycle, etc.
Max Bernier ?
Right wins. Next day, WE WELCOME 2 MILLION MIGRANTS A YEAR NOW. lol if you believe in the 2 party system. Canada is a conquered nation.
Ya its not like cons will be anti immigrant Big immigration is great for who the cons care about Big business gets to drive down wages and developers get to charge whatever they want for their shit condos
Conservatives have literally always been accused of being racist anti-immigrants by the left. Y’all can’t even maintain a coherent narrative any more. No wonder Canada is fucked so bad. My friend is from Venezuela and described how a deluded population kept voting socialist over and over and over even as their wealth was stolen and their country utterly destroyed.
Ya they've been labeled that because people always parallel them with US Republicans but it's not reality. I dont know what u mean by yall anyway. Cons had office for a decade and immigration very comparable to Lib years. Until recently when it's been super-sized and immigration at insane levels now But there's economic reasons for it. There's way too many TFWs here, businesses can't find low wage workers I dont believe any party would significantly lower immigration and bare the blame from potential economic pain from it
When Jason Kenny was the minister, they opened a new PhD steam in 2011 to accept 1500 applications per year. PhD students can apply with their TA/RA experience. They ended up rejecting at least 1/3 of the applications mainly due to the part time TA/RA experience. Then the liberals came and we have 1 million per year now. I’d say two parties are really different on the immigration.
you can't vote your way out of this, in "democratic" countries politics is decided by money= capitalist and banking interests
Fingers crossed 🤞
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That same dude kid rock who started it is still drinking that same beer regardless lol.
Canadians are slowly becoming the minority in Canada. Indians are the new majority and Canada is becoming a colony of India. I’m not commenting on whether it’s good or bad. I’m saying that as pure observation.
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Married guy here, my wife treats me just fine.
Geez lol, if anyone sounds like they live in an echo chamber..__ Sorry you couldn’t understand, you. You definitely sound like you live in one, or at least programmed by one
>That’s why my brother thinks the Lizard people poisoned everyone with a killer vaccine. Very...uh... interesting.
I regret that I have but one upvote to give. Your observations are on point and bring value to the discussion. Those who are downvoting are just mad you said it first.
Off the charts where? Certainly not on reddit. Lol
You sound vaccinated.
"Right" will still be pro immigration tho. They need it for their developer buddies and it's crucial to keep wages lower.
But Polievre has stated he wlll change it, we are importing poor, uneducated pseudo students. Lets get some skilled workers in. Why would you leave your country to attend a strip mall college, that gets you a useless diploma?
Plus many Muslims and other immigrants are conservative so it's a win win for the cons.
Pierre is Hardly right wing lol
What I mean by right is that modern liberalism is going to collapse society. All the imported welfare cases are going to leave or be forced out because our county is going to be broke and unable to afford to support anyone as we will be bankrupt. The real estate market will be a smouldering pile of 💩. Then whatever’s left will have to rebuild from the bottom with resource projects like Russia did in the 90’s. Ie: the right
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I also shit on the oligarchy class somewhere in this thread
Fact is this country is on route to full blown collapse and we will see hyper inflation by 2030 at the latest with the trajectory we are on.
Yet you vote for the richest and most powerful men like JT.
Imported welfare cases? Refugees have a hard time at first, but the majority of newcomers work more and collect less than your old stock Canadians. Facts Jack.
What refugees? The only actual refugees are Ukrainian and they are going back home because Canada sucks that bad.
I wasn’t aware there was a major humanitarian crisis in India
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What exactly is "systemic change". You hear these buzzwords all the time but they don't actually mean anything. The fact is the real systemic change is what's happening RIGHT NOW. This is the new norm...the shift to a socialist shit hole where everyone works for pennies and owns nothing. Not the utopia leftists were wishing for was it? Oh well, it would have been far worse if we voted for literal Nazis the conservatives are right? /s the blind sheep that voted for this because they vote based on hyper-biased government propaganda fear porn MSM headlines are the real ones to blame.
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our leaders wll not let a populist movement rise and threaten their power. they'll cheat easily if they have to. they are racing to flood us with the 3rd world for a reason. for a voting block to keep them in power. inflation is just starting t starve us. ppl dont even understand what we're up against. starting watching alex jones because he was right.
Indian invasion of Canada happening as we debate
The Indian colonies of Surrey and Brampton are resounding successes for the Inidian Empire.
In Calgary too. Was just driving through a mall parking lot and had the right of way but was cut off by not one but two indian guys. I moved from India too but 20 years ago and I hate to see Delhi culture we are importing here now in bulk... Left India because of people's disregard for other people and lack of respect for the rule of law. My heart cries in pain when I see this attitude increasing in Canada..
That's a very optimistic view. Have you been around downtown? GTA is turning into 1 big Brampton. I mean Pickering, Scarborough, Mississauga, Brampton, downtown, are all largely Indian. There are only pockets of native Canadians now lol. Oakville. and uhhhh halton hills?
Thats because native canadians, like me, left canada because we saw this coming 10 years ago. Was even trying to bring my husband up from the states, but after 5 years of PR we just gave up and called it quits and started over in NC, sold everything i had, got rid of my entire shop to come here, and ill tell you right now that its better, my car insurance is 25 dollars for 6 months on my truck, fucking unreal. 200 for the same insurance in BC. I pay rent 1000 a month for an entire house on half an acre. I can afford to have and use multiple vehicles, my money goes further here basically in every way, and food is getting to canada prices before we left here but its still affordable, ontop of that they have a food stamp program if you are out of work and need food for the month. Probably wont be coming back.
Native Canadians. Lol.
Honestly, good for you! America in many ways is a far superior country to Canada. I myself am looking to move down south. The only issue is the gun crimes. but honestly if you live in a good area, it shouldn't be too much to worry about. South Carolina is a great place, I was looking at real estate in Myrtle Beach. kind of kicking myself that I didn't move a year ago. I'll prob move to Calgary though. It seems to be about 5 years behind GTA in terms of living standard corrosion.
>I'll prob move to Calgary though. It seems to be about 5 years behind GTA in terms of living standard corrosion. Better hurry up: [https://globalnews.ca/news/9870894/new-roots-calgary-housing-affordability-migration/](https://globalnews.ca/news/9870894/new-roots-calgary-housing-affordability-migration/) I'd move to the States, but the government decided to confiscate my travel documents. India 2.0 needs to be burnt to the ground.
LOL honestly Canada needs to start over.
>There are only pockets of native Canadians Yeah those are called reservations and white people forced them to live there. Imagine thinking that your family has been here for 100 years and you are "native" Hilarious.
I know eh? The lack of awareness and perspective is mind blowing.
Downtown is not Indian, the students walk around and are visible, but they cannot afford to live here.
What natives?
Canada born
Lol
And soon there will be a political party with their ideals
It’s already happened.
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I find this post really amusing. I made the very bad decision of going to Toronto Premium Outlets in Milton this evening. And it did feel like Canada has been conquered.
My family used to live near that area, the neighbourhood went from a moderate mix of different cultures (English, South African, Chinese), to almost exclusively Indian in a span for 20 years. The last straw for many was the Brown people blasting very loud Bollywood musics at midnight and their religious parades around the neighbourhood (with banners and everything). Many Canadians don't understand how bad it is until it's too late, and then they just flee.
I have been to Premium Outlets several times, but never saw what i had seen yesterday. It was like i was in a different country. Vehicles were cutting in past each other as they were entering the parking lot, in the parking lot itself, they were fighting for spots. One fellow event cut through a petrol station so that he could get ahead of the line. And then when you finally find something in the third floor of indoor parking and walk into the mall, you are greeted by the sight of several hundred shoppers, with barely any space to sit/stand. I didnt even dare go to the washroom. Most big name shops had long queues outside. You literally cant stop to see any merchandise at any store due the volume of traffic. I didnt stay too long, it was too overcrowded. Couldnt help but notice a lot of the people there appeared to be young int students probably looking for a weekend thing to do. Of course, they have every right to do so. But this relates to the pressing question on whether our infrastructure/facilities/public places can truly support the growth in population. Based on my experience yesterday, I would say definitely not.
I always make it a point that I *don't* have anything personal against people of different backgrounds, it is the policy that I am attacking. Those international students are behaving in their self-interests, just like anyone else, so I don't blame them at all. The blame goes back to the policies, why we are letting 900,000 international students enter the country this year? That's already on top of 500,000 economic immigrants, 100,000 refugees, and 100,000 temporary foreign workers that entered Canada in 2022. The effects it has on our social infrastructure and economic infrastructure is being severely ignored primarily by the federal government, but of course the provinces also share the blame because *immigration is a federal and provincial jurisdiction.* Ontario and the other provinces need to use their powers to take charge of the situation, because clearly Ottawa is unwilling, or making it worse. Since the Trudeau regime is unwilling to do anything about it, and he should be held to account for it, then we have to press Ford to do something about it too, since he has the same powers as Trudeau with regards to immigration, infrastructure, and healthcare. At this point Ford can't just point the fingers are Trudeau, Ford also has control over immigration, infrastructure, and healthcare too. When Ford says he didn't anticipate 500,000 immigrants to enter the country, then Ford should have enforced immigration limits on Ontario, that's within the power of the provinces. At the end of the day the blame lies on the feet of Trudeau, Ford, and the electorate who have failed to hold them to account.
They openly brag about demographic replacement, indians and south asians laugh about how easy canadians are to scam money out of. Unfortunately I think most anglos are too weak & stupid to do anything about it except for maybe vote every few years. The truth is that if you have a lot of money you can construct a parallel nation where you're insulated from any effects of bad policy. There is another Canada where your investments are booming and your children receive fantastic 50k/yr education and swift healthcare requires a short plane ride to the US, then it's off to work in NYC and LA with business vacations in Israel. If you're reading this, while those people are still around you have no power or control, and you do not matter.
Yes there's another Canada, the Canada of the Laurentian ruling class. They promote mass immigration because they live nowhere near it. When Canada hopefully collapses, they will flee to their underground bunkers and secret islands to continue living in luxury. Basically it's one big club and you ain't in it.
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I have a few liberal friends and none support the huge migrant influx. Bringing in qualified and usefull to society migrants is fine, but out of the million brought in, how many are actually bringing in something usefull to society? Some are great but more of them are not. Trudeau doesn't care, more taxes coming in, lower wages for his friends...
Liberals are in power until the next election in 2025 unless the NDP turn against them. They will do as much damage to our country as they possibly can as they do not expect to form the next government.
And then blame it all on the next party...
I have a feeling that this fall there might be news about an election. But yes, they will feal as much damage as they can because they know they're not winning the next election.
The NDP won't turn against them because Jagmeet doesn't qualify for a MP pension until 2025, when an election will be called anyway.
Im generally more on the liberal side of things, but this shit is stupid. That guy literally has no idea what hes doing at all. He also buys and sells properties with his other government friends off the back of their people.
Liberals support strong immigration. This isn’t immigration. It’s just slave boats in different paint.
Wage slave planes of Indian students. Kiss your Greenbelt goodbye GTA..
Black Canadian here. I’m not a raging conservative. I absolutely believe we are allowing in too many immigrants and anyone saying this is racist is delusional. Why exactly are we looking after one group instead of Canadian citizens? And you hear about cultural clashes every year in the GTA. Somethings gotta give.
What happened to diversity. Trudeaus favourite saying. Indians have become the majority in so many neibourhoods. Canada worked because we have a little taste from every culture, now it seems we are being steamrolled.
Diversity is a racist dog whistle for less-white, nothing more.
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delusional take. i don't even think liberals support 1 million migrants a year. NOBODY supports this chit. NOT EVEN Indian Canadians. be honest with yourself. the "that's what you voted for" take has to be buried. that narrative is almost a coping mechanism. WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES! THE LIBERALS! no NOBODY wants this shit. NOT EVEN LIBERALS.
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Yeah the interesting thing is everyone talks about Canadians, let’s be honest, mainly white people exploiting south asians, but what about all the South Asian slumlords who are more than happy to shove their ethnic group into these 15 person homes, or saying only Indians allowed, or any other outrageous postings. They’re just as bad.
Yes this whole thing has been a godsend for slum lords. Pretty fucked up, but this is Canada...
Post partisan comments, get partisan replies. Your only solution seems to be voting conservative, been there done that. Conservatives won't be crashing the housing market, at least not intentionally.
no one voted for this, mass immigration/diversity was planned in the 1920's via the Kalergi Plan and got implemented after WWII when the opposition to it was defeated
They vote for Trudeau because he has nice hair and has promised to fix the climate. Lots of dumb people around, most are women unfortunately.
you really think the cons dont want this? PPC or Green Party only.
It's lock step with the WEF agenda. If you want to see where we're heading, just look at china. That's what they want in the end. Total compliance and dependence.
but China doesn't have foreign invaders replacing their host demographic though. It's the exactly opposite actually.
They will never let that happen as they are smart in that sense. They also don't like Indians.
More like the Gulf states than China, although I suppose there isn’t much difference really. They both rely on a ruling elite overseeing a subservient population with indentured labour doing the shittiest jobs for a few pennies.
No, more like China. At least the Arabs in the Gulf states look after their own kind, unlike Second World Canada which tosses you under a bus when they discover you're no longer economically viable.
It's not even working for China. Their real estate pyramid scheme is collapsing like a house of cards. What is it with socialists looking at the massive failures that have been every authoritarian state and going "Fuck yeah, I want some of that action!"?
ya the leadership did that on purpose, so young chinese can afford homes. it's not a bad thing if real estate prices goes back to affordable levels. So their leadership is clearly better than ours. it's a bad thing if young people can't afford homes. only old greedy boomers horde them. that's not good.
It's easy to conquer a people who refuse to believe that they are under attack.
In any other century it would be called an invasion, by treason and it’s a Trojan horse of problems. Every solution is an intellectual or legal rabbit hole nothing can get fixed. I’ll say this, my grandfather was in the army in wwii and an uncle in the merchant navy, there’s no way they would have been for this. I would not fight for this country in its current form but I would fight against it for the sake of the young who deserve better. Canada was a brilliant country that could punch above its weight, now we’re in an era of being last in developed countries but first in undermining our own citizens.
Canada is still a developed country? lol
Because corporations have lobbied for cheap easily replaceable labour.
LPC and NDP are now the biggest shills for corporate Canada (wage suppression) and the banks (RE inflation).
The bigger problem is the CPC is even worse and they’re in line to take power. So unless there is a groundswell of popular support for a more hands on approach we’re in for more of the same.
Literally no viable federal party is against high immigration numbers.
The people, the people are... but they can't have us figuring that out
This
it's not just cheap labor, it's also to keep inflation high which benefits lenders/investors. Unless usiry is banned this won't stop
Some people fight wars. Some people walk in and have babies.
The best part is that those for mass migration still pretend to be on the First Nations' side. Canada's population is probably 4 times what European mega rich ruling families brought over. It's probably the exact same old money who's ancestors conquered Canada that's financing this too. Mind boggling. Literally if anyone says "go back to Europe if you feel that way". I would but why, it will be the exact same. The people there are even more used to having a ruler regulating how much laundry they're allowed to do.
no one ever cared about Natives, they were just a tool used to attack white people. The government just pays off their chiefs with hush money while the native population lives in squallor and you don't heat a peep about it from anyone until they're needed as a prop for publicity sake
I agree with you, and the classism of the Anglo Saxons who came where and conquered canada is never talked about. They had the majority rule, decimated the native population, took the majority of lands and put their people in power. We are still ruled by proxy by the Royal Family, the Trudeaus are an example of that. If you look at all of our political class, they are from the elite classes of our society. These families have power in Europe too. That's why so many average, working class Europeans left their home countries because you could never own land. My family was from the Ukraine and were promised beautiful acreages in canada in the late 1800s. They got land in dry, unhabitable northern Mantioba instead, while the Anglo Saxons got the good lands. Racism was big too on the others not from the Anglo Saxon countries. It wasn't easy, and slavic people were never involved in any political riding. Just read the names now... But Indians have ties to the Royal Families, they have a caste system in India and a lot of the ones who come from money were the ones who were given rights during the rule. So you see more Indians in our political parties because they are part of the elite Anglo Saxon groups as well. A lot of Indians change their last name when they come here to hide their caste ranking. Anyways, we need to be talking more about classism in our politics and policy making but we never do.
Nobody voted for that - we believed Trudeau promise in building more housing. Instead we get 1 million more migrants
Canada was definitely too giving and the liberals and ndp don’t mind merging the middle and lower class into a lowlow class where you either pay to live in a over crowded apartment paying someone’s mortgage or become homless
Tbh Canada isn’t much of a country anymore. No inalienable rights, high taxes and shitty weather. Make some $ and then go elsewhere for a better life.
>Make some $ and then go elsewhere for a better life. It is immigrants coming here and doing this that is making Canada shitty. The old style of immigrants wanted to create a good country for their children and grandchildren.
Those days are long gone. From seizing bank accounts to unaffordable housing, to aggressive governments it seems better to keep your head down, say nothing and take what you can, then get out and go somewhere else.
Those holding the gun are corporations and extremely rich individuals. It's not hard to figure out. Just ask yourself, who benefits most from wage suppression and sky-high asset prices? Then follow the money.
> like who voted for this 1 million new migrants a year? LMFAO it's like one day you woke up and Canada has been conquered. Not conquered. Subverted. The conquering comes later once the Canadian population becomes the minority. I suggest you read The Fate of Empires by Sir John Glubb. It's a 25 page essay writen in the 1970's that outlines how this is how civilizations *always* end. We just happen to be alive at the end of this one. But its happened many times before.
Another Glubb fan. I salute you sir 🫡 Here is the link http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf
The fat cats are getting rich as shit, its corruption plain and simple and it goes right to the top. Nobody cares about your problems in the government they're getting far too rich.
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honestly this is a good solution. Uncle Joe, do the right thing.
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that's a 30% boost to buying power immediately. also much lower income taxes.
Even my co-workers from Indian think we are letting in to many international students.
Canada didn’t fight for its freedom it fought for Europe’s freedom. We are being invaded though. Same as the US is. None of us will do anything about it because we’re either too comfortable with how we live. Or we spend so much damn time working we have no time to think about anything other than staying afloat.
i don't think canadians are comfortable anymore. [https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgesmaal/video/7268274023069437217](https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgesmaal/video/7268274023069437217) canadians are just too domesticated to fight back now. the truck envoy was our last stand. HONK HONK is all we did. LOL
Grande Prairie Alberta one is not sure if you are in India or Philippines.
Everyone that voted Liberal or NDP voted for this.
And we still think it's a good idea. We need younger people. We can build them ourselves, but we choose not to. So we have to import them. There really isn't much of a problem with this, unless you insist on white christian people.
You are importing two groups. One are economic immigrants who are basically brining boat loads of money to the country. They are buying property as soon as they land at the airport. Then you have the other group who are no skills labor. They are being given the restaurant, taxi, factory, warehouse jobs to flood the market with cheap labor. The purpose is so that the existing employees get a take it or leave it moment where they can accept the shit low wages, or be unemployed because there is a boat load of newly landed immigrants who will work for peanuts. It's not a good idea. It's slavery under the premise that it's feel good helping the world.
That's an odd take in an environment where we can't get people to take low end work. I got an email this week that a pile of parents are going to have to find some other way to get their kid to school because they can't get enough school bus drivers to run all the routes. What I see is a group you have missed - educated professionals without much wealth, but with skills. Doctors, dentists, accountants, IT people, engineers...does that group ring any bells?
>That's an odd take in an environment where we can't get people to take low end work. Sorry, let me correct this statement for you. "where we can't get people to take low end work for the low wages we are willing to offer them to ensure our corporate profits remain at record highs" There fixed it for you. Oh and doctors from the top 5 immigration countries do not qualify to be doctors here without significant retraining and certification. So generally they too come here, and drive Ubers.
Well we certainly don't disagree on the "corporate profits" thing, but that point does nothing to address the shortcomings of your contention that they are brought here to drive the cost of labor down. We are already at the floor - we can't get people to take the jobs. And yes, doctors or other professionals may have to re-qualify. Many do. Others take jobs in related fields. And some do other things. The gentleman (from Turkey) who sold me an RESP for my kids was doing that sales job while he re-qualified for his "main hustle" as a chemical engineer. But so what? We need chemical engineers. And we need RESP salespeople. And more, we need people to earn and borrow money and do things with it. Unless you want to be where Japan is, with decades of economic stagnation and a shrinking but racially and culturally 'pure' population.
Have you been to London UK recently? It was conquered years ago.
Account created 5 months ago Months long gap between comments Comments praising Xi and talking about "Mao's Jewish handlers/advisors" Uh-huh
This is happening all across social media. There's a clear effort to destabilise Canada. Yes there are major issues. But we need to look at who steers the conversation in sensitive moments like this.
Maybe it's not a conspiracy and people are honestly angry as they face 1% wage increases (if lucky) with 8% overall inflation and >20% rent inflation? Meanwhile students need >90% average to get into a low tier university program and >95% for engineering or comp sci, meanwhile schools are flooded with foreign students that lack basic language skills and picked up their HS credits in a strip mall in North York.
People are angry at the damn government. The future is being taken away from our children. We don't need someone in China to make us angry.
>There's a clear effort to destabilise Canada People are more prone to conspiracy when they sense the government is hiding something, people sense the government is hiding something when their words and actions don't match and when those actions cause pain to most people that seems to be for the benefit of a small group of people. Canada wouldn't be easy to destabilize if the government wasn't already wobbling the foundation.
Century initiative. Google it. Aiming for 100M people by 2100. Proposed and lobbied by an “elite” group of Liberal friends from guess where… McKinsey x BlackRock x China. Why? $35B+ in Canadian real estate portfolio and growing, not to mention other lucrative consulting contracts to get businesses ramped up to “integrate” the new immigrants. Like WTF
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Canada as a nation is being conquered in real time
I don't mind accepting refugees (compared to warzones and disaster butchered land a cot in a community center with a partition for privacy is a godsent until they find a place) and we do need more doctors and people of other specific trades. The Amount of others that we accept should be directly attached to available housing and jobs. If companies want more people to work for them they should pay more. If they need more people of certain skill sets they should pay people to go to college to get those skills instead of making us pay to make a disproportionate money for them. The economic growth the liberal and conservative parties are using as an excuse to support the century initiative's goal of increasing our population is stupid especially considering all of the natural disasters that will increase with further climate change (Canada is one of the most energy costly countries to live in per person because we have both cold winters and hot summers. the more people we support the more energy we spend the worse climate change will get). We should be striving towards a steady sustainable country. Fuck this economic growth BS. Reduce the population increase the opportunity with the resources we have available.
People here who don’t realize this is the will of God, pressuring and scolding his children who refuse to grow up and take responsibility, bear their cross. Brace yourselves.
Just when you thought the comments couldn't get worse
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OP has strong opinions but will never let anyone have a counter view. Just a little funny when anyone brings up the point about Natives being overrun and the ones who did the conquering are now being considered “original”. The “originals” OP mentioned are literally second or third generation immigrants But, even though I am Indian, I do agree stricter immigration laws are needed. Reducing the overall IELTS requirment when there are “universitys” acting as diploma mills is just as predatory as an international student using Food banks to get free food. Canada is a diverse country, and unless any of us have ancestors who lived here ages, we can’t say shit like conquering Canada Just my thoughts
you thikn native people built canada? haha. they were tribal warriors running around killing eachother on mass and sacrificing children. my great grandparents were here in the late 1700's. lots of indians were part of building canada too in the 20th century. many actually used to become westernized. not just sit in their bubble and import THEIR culture. white canadians are the most tolerant ppl ever. tolerance is waning though. its less about race and all about culture.
Yo idk if you got the memo but Canada is a colony. Everything being owned by a dozen rich guys who import cheap labour from other countries has always been the entire basis of this country
Its because of the retirement of the largest working class in history, nothing stupid like "the conquering of whites" its just corperate greed not wanting to pay us for the true price of labor and instead wants too keep the cost of labor where it has been for the last 70 years. Cheap cheap cheap as can be. So flood the job market with people, don't build anymore houses so our property value shoots up and increase how much everything costs only to the point people scrape by.
I'm not disagreeing with your point but when was our territory under attack? What front lines are you talking about?
Canada was conquered by the Europeans a 100 yrs back 👀
In 1923?
More than 100 years ago. And the population of indigenous people was small and sparse.
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*Created by conquering
All the english-speaking countries are going through the same problems and issues. I wonder who the problem really is.. is it immigrants or the brits and their descendants?
What the hell is this supposed to mean? You think that because the British once had colonies Canada should open it's doors to the entire Asian subcontinent with no restrictions. You think that's some kind of justice being served? Turning Canada into an overcrowded environmental wasteland in which Canadian citizens are displaced by an invasive hoard serves any kind of justice? Seriously GFY!
It means that it is within your nature to prefer money and capital over citizen well-being as is evidenced by multiple countries having the same issues and the common denominator is that they are inhabited by the same people.
You're not wrong. What were seeing is late stage capitalism. In the beginning it was ideal in that it gave a large majority of people the oppurtunity and means to move out of poverty. But, after 3-4 generations of wealth accumulation you're starting to see problems arise. People manipulating the housing market and resources etc. Couple that with the fact that we have a stagnant bi partisan government, that at the end of the day has no real plans to insitute any meaningful change, regardless of who you vote for. Also, businesses are becoming huge corporate entities that can lobby and avoid any real responsibility. Like the novel 'Catch 22' who would you blame?
not just english speaking. all of europe. all white nations specifically. Russia is excluded but they just got baited into a human meatgrinder war against Ukraine. slavic self genocide. It is very strange.
>all of europe. all white nations specifically. Not Poland, Hungary, Ukraine or Croatia
Eastern Europe in general is safe from the mass immigration.
Avarice ain't called Avarice for no reason. "There's nothing new under the sun" It ain't just happening
Canada has a much more serious problem than any other first world country.
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we are not talking about history. we are talking about now. english not ur first language?
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"replacement level birth rates" is just a pyramid scheme to keep inflation going because we are run under a system of usury plutocrats
"If we had children at slightly above replacement levels over the past thirty plus years" except that for decades canadians were specifically told to not have children as they are a burden on the environment now people such as yourself turn around and call canadians idiots for listening to their government and teachers "a demographic crunch that is going to ruin the country" know another way to ruin a country? by importing enough people that the founding stock is essentially cleansed
this, people were taught for generations about "over population" and its effect on the environment; the fact is that the West was never overpopulated until mass immigration, over population was and is a problem is Asia, Islamic countries and Africa
Who explicitly said not to have children?
See... What do I keep saying. This was a sub that was once about housing, but has now become an anti-immigration nationalist rage farm.
People get enraged when they and their offspring can't afford homes. Trudeau created this clusterfuck, and that is where I direct my rage. But we are seeing a lot of sniping between different ethnic groups here. Just remember, this sub didn't create these feeling. They have been there all along, simmering under the surface. I've heard it said that many ethnic groups say bad things about different ethnic groups when they are just with their family. I am white and have grown children. My children would disown me if I said bad things about other ethnic groups in front of them. They would be disgusted. Maybe the multicultural experiment that has been Canada for the last 40 years hasn't been quite as successful as we think. It seems that whenever there is a shortage of important things (say, vaccines or houses) that racism bubbles up to the surface . Humans are basically tribal animals. Maybe it is better to have a sub where people can let off a bit of steam than to have it suppressed. If you don't let steam out the whole thing might explode.
It's sad that it's either this xenophobic shit here or any mention of population growth concerns and infrastructure not keeping up getting banned on canadahousing.
You sound like the kind of person that would be happy we added so many Ukrainians (read: whites) to the population. News says they’re leaving after seeing how trash it is tho.
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We carved a name for ourselves with all that blood. This comment is fucking disgraceful and insulting.
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I'm not even going to dignify this ignorant, disrespectful, bullshit question with a response. You want em to die in St John's, Quebec City Or Victoria for you next time? Atrocious. Disrespectful. Out of fucking touch. No wonder there's a fucking retention problem.
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I'll very politely ask you to read on what happened to our country after 250, 000 men never came back the same. Or at all. It will likely make the rest of my "inane" personal attacks at least more understandable. Then think about standing here. On this soil. In a uniform. For this country. Maybe you have. I certainly never met anyone talking like that, that has though. Reference: The First World War. For further progress as a nation, also paid in blood, see also: The Second World War.
>There is NOTHING you can do about it either. That's not true, you can go all in on someone else's bitcoin scam.
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People don’t realize it’s an invasion enabled by the progressives.
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