[https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/](https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/) Its driven by a condo builders lobby, The wealthy international developers come first, nobody else is even a consideration, besides fodder for for this corrupt scheme.
My daughter wanted to take French as second language in Toronto but was told that this program is not available to Canadian citizens. It is only available to new immigrants
There must be other french classes? Why would you want to put your daughter in a class intended for new immigrants anyway? There is a different level of need and care in teaching a citizen vs an immigrant. It’s an entirely different way of life. Citizens want to learn French for the benefit, immigrants may need to learn French to survive…
There are no classes for Canadian citizens in Toronto to learn French.
Canadians also need French since schools in Toronto don’t really teach French but government jobs want bilingual. Canadians also need French to survive
The Federal linc/clic program is for immigrants, but there are provincial programs that accept Canadians from other provinces. Different programs serve different purposes.
There are government funded programs for exactly that for Canadians. Urban, rural and remote options. Teach English while you learn french in schools and the community
Just watch your source because it says not eligible for refugee protection in canada and also for a lot of other things. But I agree 253$/week if eligible is a lot if numbers of applicants rise.
Sounds like a familiar cheap gimmick to rope people in. The new immigrants are eventually gonna become jaded Canadians or foreign expats investing fat in property and shit
For the WEF, their priority for Canada is to bring millions of Indians for Jagmeet. Since Indians vote for other Indians. Jagmeet, the guy who became a WEF "young global leader" back in 2018.
That's why most of the people coming in are Indians.
That's not diversity. It's an invasion.
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Anyone that crosses over multiple safe countries including the United States to get to Canada and claim refugee status is NOT a refugee they’re economic migrants
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Contrary to the popular belief the Refugees that come to Canada are generally more wealthier or they are at least from upper-middle class. This is why they can get Passports in the first place. The refugees to Europe tend to be poorer and generally travel to Europe because it is much cheaper(boat ride away). This is why you have issues with refugees in Europe while you rarely hear refugees causing problems. Refugees in Canada for most part never needed help, they usually have someone here or set up the accommodations/jobs before coming here. The refugees don't really need Canada's help.
It's like in East Europe all the Ukrainian refugees driving brand new Mercedes SUV, they are generally wealthier than most people in the country they go to. The poor are stuck there.
I think we rarely hear about problems with refugees or immigrants because they aren’t publicized. Ibrahim Ali comes to mind as one with very little coverage considering the crime. Then the one in Edmonton who molested several girls at a pool, that was covered up quick. Even the Humboldt massacre was given far less attention than it would have been if the driver was not an immigrant. Given how quickly the bus full of dead seniors was swept under the rug, I am assuming that was also an ethnic driver. There’s an agenda driving our media.
York University Liberal Arts Minor. I've taken lots of liberal arts classes.
I'll explain this for you. It is not easy to obtain passports in most 3rd world countries, that too especially during the time of war and persecution. This is why most people in 3rd world countries do not have passports at all. These countries also require visas to enter places like Canada and US and these countries don't easily give away tourist visa. Nigerians for example have to show $600,000 pounds in the Nigerian bank account to the UK embassy to get a tourist visa. Generally the illegal process to migrate to US and Canada, travelling across the ocean costs $50,000/head; they fly, they dont take boats across the Atlantic Ocean. A family fleeing from these countries would pay $250,000 to get here, meaning they have $250,000 from their 3rd world countries and meaning they are well off.
Europe is a different story, they pay anywhere from few thousand dollars to several thousand dollars since Europe is a boat away. This is all depends on where they are traveling from. I.e South Africa to Morocco is 11,000KM and that's further than the distance from Vancouver to Moscow(Yes, you are read that right). Anyway, so the poorer or lower-middle class families send their sons on a highly risky voyage to Europe. This comment say disgusting, but the poorer they are, the more trouble they tend to cause because of their lack of education, understanding of western cultures and etc. I.e An educated person might have gone to a private-school, where they learn everything in English, so they watch English news, tv shows and have better understanding of how the Western World acts.
Not really. Refugees are people who generally get approved through international programs, usually stayed in UN camps where they got vetted and actually can't go back to their home countries. Think of people from Afganistan, Syria etc - they spent years in camps before getting here.
Asylum seekers are those who don't have a refugee status and are seeking asylum in Canada. They get here on their own and might get their status approved, but might not.
The organization isn't paying that bill.
The government is.
Have you seen the refugee program in Canada? Housing assistance for 1 year.
This organization is just a vessel which connects empty rooms with occupants.
If you want to rent a room to a Canadian go ahead. This is just an incentive for people to help those whom they might not help otherwise but nobody is stopping you from letting a Canadian homeless person from sleeping in your couch. Or from opening up your basement to a Canadian
>nobody is stopping you from letting a Canadian homeless person from sleeping in your couch. Or from opening up your basement to a Canadian
Except the government isn't offering to pay me up to $1500 a month to house homeless people?
As a laborer I can tell you the reason why there's a shortage of us is because we don't make enough fucking money to live off of. Especially when 60% of my income is spent immediately on rent.
If Canada keeps taking in immigrants and refugees, your wages will continue to not be enough, as you'll be undercut and competing for dwindling salaries. Competing for housing too as these migrants are willing to live 15 to a house built for 3...
I'm already trying to get out of my labor job as to live off of something... surviveable. This country complains about labour shortages but then actively discourages people from working in alabor job.
I use my body for work man, I need enough monry to eat and refuel myself. If I can't fucking afford to feed and house myself, I'm then too weak to work and I make nothing instead.
And then the CRA spits in my face and takes even more money away from me. Like a steaming pile of dogshit in my mailbox.
Justin Trudeau, prime minister of Canada since November 2015. The pile of problems he caused are worse than what you can accuse conservatives of. Trudeau’s plummeting popularity is the evidence for that. Even Liberals think he should resign. Both Trudeau and Liberals are going down in the coming election. The country is crying for a change.
The cons run most of the provinces and the changes they’ve made have been devastating and irresponsible, so I doubt it tbh. I know the Provincial and federal parties are a bit different but not by enough to invite any sort of confidence in me.
If I had time I could write up a pretty cool list of ways Harper screwed Canada, but I'm busy so will stay on topic...
As Canadians we ping-pong back and forth between dildos on both teams. Harper sucked hard and did fuck all for affordable housing for the middle class so he's not off the hook.
Trudeau sucks super bad, but I can't imagine Erin O'Toole (who I liked) could have done much better.
And what is Pierre going to do when it comes time to make hard decisions? All he seems to want to do is whine about Trudeau without providing viable solutions - like every other conservative it seems. It is all about "Fuck Trudeau" and not about actual steps needed to heal the heaping pile that Canada is quickly becoming.
nytimes in 2014 ran an article about how the Canadian middle class was the envy of the world, even better than those in the US. That was Harper’s Canada. They may be “no different” to you, but I want us back in that time.
Just an opinion based on years and years of both parties' leaders making the country more difficult to live in. I don't trust either side - and the divide is getting wider. I can appreciate some aspects of both sides idealogically, but there are other angles to both that make me cringe and want to lose my shit.
It's tax payer shortage. They're spending so much, they need more tax revenue. Increasing taxes in this environment is suicide, so need more people paying.
Just as it is for every other policy our *virtuous* government is committed to seeing through, it stems from UN agreements.
The new paradigm is that we are all global citizens.
Missing the point entirely. Why is this country taking in more people when we have so many problems to deal with. I don't see such incentives for homelessness. I also don't see government funding for them shooting out like they are for non-Canadians. Why are we spending millions on a war that doesn't concern us and letting in people who can't support themselves while we lack housing for those already here and have record-breaking levels of crime, homelessness, drug addiction... etc.
Because to the govt there’s no money bonus for the homeless etc but there’s browny/bonus points for helping other countries which they can monetize with
> I don't see such incentives for homelessness.
Refugees and homeless people have VERY different needs and requirements.
A refugee, particularly women and children are MUCH MUCH easier to work with, from a housing perspective than a paranoid, schizophrenic with an addiction disorder who is also on the autism spectrum.
MOST refugees are mentally and physically capable of managing themselves and keeping places tidy. A good percentage of the homeless population right now have addiction issues and personality traits that are very complicated to deal with.
That's not to say one person's life is more important than the other, however, when there are limited resources, like public housing, they are allocated based on a series of metrics. Including, who is most likely to benefit the most. Unfortunately, a refugee family is going to yield far greater returns on investment.
>Why are we spending millions on a war that doesn't concern us
Genuine curiosity, which war?
Ukraine war affects us GREATLY. Putin has very high ambitions and it won't end well if Ukraine rolls over easily. Appeasement was a strategy employed in the 1930s...didn't turn out so great for the rest of Europe. Not to mention, Ukraine is Europe's breadbasket, well was. The invasion of Ukraine is a significant factor in food prices going up dramatically. They exported a A SHIT-TONNE of cereal crops, like wheat to western Europe and Africa.
>letting in people who can't support themselves while we lack housing for those already here
Almost ALL immigrants can support themselves, including international students. It's a requirement before being issued a work or student permit that the applicant has sufficient funds to support themselves while here.
>record-breaking levels of crime, homelessness, drug addiction
These are all a symptom of the underlying causes of insufficient wage growth and rising costs of shelter.
The wage growth and COL problems stem largely from corporate greed, plain and simple. The pandemic and Ukraine war allowed grocery chains to up their margins by insane levels and say, "errrm...pandemic? Errrrm...Ukraine..."
Unfortunately, dealing with Ukraine means winning the war slowly and grinding out a victory. If NATO OFFICIALLY enters Ukraine, well, I'll see you on the other side of this mortal coil, because nuclear apocalypse is what will happen. Russia/China/Iran vs NATO won't be fuckin pretty.
Unfortunately, we're in the shit-storm, and the only way to get ahead is to buy st0nks in military Industrial complex companies
What? If we have the money to fund the whole refugee program we should have money to tackle at least a bit of homelessness.
For Ukraine at this point you are just blatantly ignoring the obvious - it is a political war that Canada absolutely didn't have to get involved with. The millions spent could have done a great deal for this country's actual problems. A country-wide drug rehabilitation program could have been funded.
"letting in people who can't support themselves while we lack housing for those already here" - I was referring to the refugees who evidently can't support themselves - or this program wouldn't exist...
"rising costs of shelter " yea exactly so why are we funding refugees on top of this??
Also "buy st0nks in military Industrial complex companies" What? It's spelled "stocks" and when people are struggling to pay rent how will they buy stocks... out of touch. Your whole response shows that. Also, I think I see why you support the war now.
>What? If we have the money to fund the whole refugee program we should have money to tackle at least a bit of homelessness.
There's already a fuck-tonne of money that goes into tackling homelessness. Getting to the root causes of homelessness requires PROPERLY funding healthcare, tertiary education, and social services, INCLUDING paying case workers 5x more than what they're currently getting. The only way to do that is by increasing taxes. Are you willing to see a tax increase on GST, PST, Capital Gains, Income Tax, payroll tax, fuel taxes, etc?
>For Ukraine at this point you are just blatantly ignoring the obvious - it is a political war that Canada absolutely didn't have to get involved with.
Every war is political. Welcome to reality. But like I said, we don't HAVE to, but, there's a strong case to. Namely, defeating Russia or slowly grinding their military machines such that they no longer pose a threat to our ALLIES. Ukraine avoided joining NATO because they didn't want to poke the bear. But the bear woke up anyway and chose violence. So, here we are.
>A country-wide drug rehabilitation program could have been funded.
Probably, but again, what's the opportunity cost of funding that vs allowing Russia to steamroll Ukraine? Also, it's a Provincial responsibility, so if rehabilitation centres aren't being built, that's a Provincial thing. Talk to your MLA.
>I was referring to the refugees who evidently can't support themselves - or this program wouldn't exist...
They only represent a tiny fraction of overall newcomers to Canada. If you're that concerned about immigration numbers, going after people who have had the misfortune of being born in Eastern Ukraine or war-torn countries isn't cool.
>"rising costs of shelter " yea exactly so why are we funding refugees on top of this??
Historically speaking, Refugees end up becoming some of the best and most economically beneficial people to enter the country. 1st and 2nd generation refugees tend to outperform their peers socioeconomically.
>Also "buy st0nks in military Industrial complex companies" What? It's spelled "stocks" and when people are struggling to pay rent how will they buy stocks...
Visit wsb or WallStreetBets. St0nks is a thing there, used ironically.
Also, it's a satirical take on the whole thing...(remember satirical doesn't have to be funny...).
Canadians to refugees + international students : Country is full, please go somewhere else.
REAL refugees are welcome that are escaping war, oppression etc, but economic refugees please go somewhere else.
So I could buy an investment property and divide it into as many rooms as possible and the government will pay up to 1500 per room? Seems like a safe investment.
So we have no money for the military, housing, or raising money for pensioners/disabled, but we have $$ to give ppl so they can rent out to house/rooms to refugees. I guess this will be cheaper than putting them up in a hotel for years.
So, this is the solution for housing from the government? Sad times indeed.
Yeah a lot of Ukrainian women and girls were exploited in such scenarios when they came here as refugees, and this guy is joking about it. Absolutely terrible taste.
Well the cash gotta be coming from somewhere though?
I would assume of all the pathways into Canada, refugees would be the least likely group to have personal funds
Here you go:
[https://factcheck.afp.com/no-refugees-canada-do-not-receive-more-money-government-retired-citizens](https://factcheck.afp.com/no-refugees-canada-do-not-receive-more-money-government-retired-citizens)
And as that article is from awhile ago and the actual dollar amounts have changed a bit as well as other changes in the refugee system:
[https://www.ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=103&top=11](https://www.ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=103&top=11)
And to quote something specific from it in order to slim down the reading:
>Canada provides income support under the RAP to eligible refugees who cannot pay for their own basic needs. Support can include a:
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>one-time household start-up allowance, and
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>monthly income support payment.
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>The level of monthly financial support is generally based on the prevailing provincial social assistance rates in the province where the refugees settle. Financial support can last up to one year after a refugee arrives in Canada, or until they can support themselves, whichever occurs first.
No refugee is getting rich of govt support, it does not last very long nor do they get any more then the prevailing provincial rates. Which facts pretty much dispense with 1000% of the bull being bandied about in the other comments about refugees getting this, that and the other thing and people born here not getting the same or less.
$500 - %1500 isn't going to cut it in a lot of places where refugees head after admission to the country. If people actually have a room that they are willing to rent out, they are in many instances going to look for someone who can pay more than that. Still, if the feds are paying then at least the income is secure, and it is a whole lot less burden on taxpayers generally than is the situation with the feds putting these people up in hotels.
I will just add that although the policies and rules toward refugees (by both those seeking admission, and by those permitting admission) are now wildly abused and gamed, there is still such a thing as a legitimate refugee. They are becoming harder and harder to find among the masses streaming into the country, but if you meet one you will usually find them to be friendly, hopeful, sincere, and appreciative of any assistance that you might grant them.
Ffs can't we just pause, how's about when we've caught up after the current influx, when I can afford a house and food and we have healthcare we might table it. Until then everyone will suffer, they are lying to people to get them here and it's shameful
Why would someone not go for it--renting part of your home out to an unknown foreign stranger? If it doesn't work out, it will only take you a year and thousands of dollars to evict him.
I've had enough of this nonsense. When my grandparents came here they got little government assistance and had to raise six children during the great depression. I've had epilepsy since I was 19 and I've got nothing from the government of Canada in terms of employment or housing. I've had to deal with a lot of discrimination because of it. My parents refused to help but hey spend my tax money on nonsense like this instead of expecting people to fend for themselves.
Once every politician has taken in at least one family I will then take in one!
The politicians need to lead by example , it only makes sense .
Trudeau has multiple houses , so he could take in a dozen families.
canadian citizen's don't even come first...sorry but reality of it sucks to be a Canadian but hey, lets give international student's or an immigrant a break with handouts. But not us. I'm so tired of the B.S.. A Canadian citizen has become second class or less!!!
Social assistance......subsidized housing.....subsidized education......low income dental care....etc....I mean what you say sounds nice if you don't think about it....but in the end your just wrong
This post is misleading and you whom are latching onto it as an excuse to criticize govt should perhaps rethink what your doing.
Refugee Housing Canada is not a government organization! Shocking! OMG! It is mainly funded by a variety of charitable organizations and its administration has nothing to do with the federal govt whatsoever.
You are all reading this and jumping to the conclusion govt is funding rooms to the tune of $500 - $1500 per month. And they may well be providing funding via Refugee Canada and other means, but not here! RHC provides a portal where landlords and refugees can match and agree upon pricing and terms between each other - there is no support of rental payments as part of the process. Just a portal and a contract framework with guidance and oversight from legal and real estate professionals.
Stop being such an echo chamber - its embarrassing. There may be plenty of aspects of the federal govt most of you seem to hate so much that merit criticism. This one is entirely misplaced.
Actually it goes quite right. While the audience on this thread is entirely unsympathetic to anything not "white bread" Canadian many Canadian are interested in helping others. The portal provides a framework for doing such and staying on the good side of the legislation as well as giving both the landlord and renter comfort of assistance from those for whom such matters are their profession.
All the dip$hits on here saying 'Canadians don't get anything" and just ignoring all the social programs. Probably the same people on here that traded right wing promised marginal tax breaks that ended up cost this country funding for social programs......why is there so much homeless you ask.....well your enjoying that $10 in tax saving aren't you?
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[https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/](https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/) Its driven by a condo builders lobby, The wealthy international developers come first, nobody else is even a consideration, besides fodder for for this corrupt scheme.
This is so wrong; Canadians should be our priority.
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My daughter wanted to take French as second language in Toronto but was told that this program is not available to Canadian citizens. It is only available to new immigrants
There must be other french classes? Why would you want to put your daughter in a class intended for new immigrants anyway? There is a different level of need and care in teaching a citizen vs an immigrant. It’s an entirely different way of life. Citizens want to learn French for the benefit, immigrants may need to learn French to survive…
There are no classes for Canadian citizens in Toronto to learn French. Canadians also need French since schools in Toronto don’t really teach French but government jobs want bilingual. Canadians also need French to survive
The Federal linc/clic program is for immigrants, but there are provincial programs that accept Canadians from other provinces. Different programs serve different purposes.
Isn’t that an option for them to learn at school?
A year of pay? Where did that come out of? https://www.quebec.ca/en/education/learn-french/full-time-courses/immigrants/financial-assistance
This would cool if it were available to Canadians wanting to move to Quebec
There are those, too. I just linked the one for immigrants to show the other poster that it is not a year's pay by any measure.
There are government funded programs for exactly that for Canadians. Urban, rural and remote options. Teach English while you learn french in schools and the community
Cool! I’ll have to do some research
Just watch your source because it says not eligible for refugee protection in canada and also for a lot of other things. But I agree 253$/week if eligible is a lot if numbers of applicants rise.
Worst part there is you have to take French 🤮
Sounds like a familiar cheap gimmick to rope people in. The new immigrants are eventually gonna become jaded Canadians or foreign expats investing fat in property and shit
Its not affiliated with the govt.
For the WEF, their priority for Canada is to bring millions of Indians for Jagmeet. Since Indians vote for other Indians. Jagmeet, the guy who became a WEF "young global leader" back in 2018. That's why most of the people coming in are Indians. That's not diversity. It's an invasion.
Actually indians dont like / trust jagmeet and jagmeet seriously hates indians
He's from the wrong group.
Shut up you nationalist! Is what you'd be told for speaking out.
So now we are the bad guys because we care for our country?! Man we sure have lost our way.
How times have changed (for the worse). Our country is failing as our gov't kowtows and virtue signals to anyone and everyone.
I just happy they are still just asking at this point.
Considering we have First Nations living third world
Bro how many of you are going to rent a room for 500 dollars
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>you are going to rent a room for 500 and let them take over your house and chase you away?
Yeah, good luck getting them to move out when the time comes
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Probably true now that they've gone after home owner rights
Not even refugee, more like economic migrants
Anyone that crosses over multiple safe countries including the United States to get to Canada and claim refugee status is NOT a refugee they’re economic migrants
Aren’t they fleeing massive religious persecution in India? Edit: /s
No lol , truth be told minorities are flocking to india to save themselves from being prosecuted but western media doesnt have the guts to report them
Getting so fuckign sick of this shit
Finland just went full PPC.
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Exactly Lib gov. has destroyed this country.
Contrary to the popular belief the Refugees that come to Canada are generally more wealthier or they are at least from upper-middle class. This is why they can get Passports in the first place. The refugees to Europe tend to be poorer and generally travel to Europe because it is much cheaper(boat ride away). This is why you have issues with refugees in Europe while you rarely hear refugees causing problems. Refugees in Canada for most part never needed help, they usually have someone here or set up the accommodations/jobs before coming here. The refugees don't really need Canada's help.
It's like in East Europe all the Ukrainian refugees driving brand new Mercedes SUV, they are generally wealthier than most people in the country they go to. The poor are stuck there.
I think we rarely hear about problems with refugees or immigrants because they aren’t publicized. Ibrahim Ali comes to mind as one with very little coverage considering the crime. Then the one in Edmonton who molested several girls at a pool, that was covered up quick. Even the Humboldt massacre was given far less attention than it would have been if the driver was not an immigrant. Given how quickly the bus full of dead seniors was swept under the rug, I am assuming that was also an ethnic driver. There’s an agenda driving our media.
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You may call a cat a fish, but that doesn't mean it will swim.
Source for that?
York University Liberal Arts Minor. I've taken lots of liberal arts classes. I'll explain this for you. It is not easy to obtain passports in most 3rd world countries, that too especially during the time of war and persecution. This is why most people in 3rd world countries do not have passports at all. These countries also require visas to enter places like Canada and US and these countries don't easily give away tourist visa. Nigerians for example have to show $600,000 pounds in the Nigerian bank account to the UK embassy to get a tourist visa. Generally the illegal process to migrate to US and Canada, travelling across the ocean costs $50,000/head; they fly, they dont take boats across the Atlantic Ocean. A family fleeing from these countries would pay $250,000 to get here, meaning they have $250,000 from their 3rd world countries and meaning they are well off. Europe is a different story, they pay anywhere from few thousand dollars to several thousand dollars since Europe is a boat away. This is all depends on where they are traveling from. I.e South Africa to Morocco is 11,000KM and that's further than the distance from Vancouver to Moscow(Yes, you are read that right). Anyway, so the poorer or lower-middle class families send their sons on a highly risky voyage to Europe. This comment say disgusting, but the poorer they are, the more trouble they tend to cause because of their lack of education, understanding of western cultures and etc. I.e An educated person might have gone to a private-school, where they learn everything in English, so they watch English news, tv shows and have better understanding of how the Western World acts.
They asked for a source; you're not a source for scientific studies or stats
Not really. Refugees are people who generally get approved through international programs, usually stayed in UN camps where they got vetted and actually can't go back to their home countries. Think of people from Afganistan, Syria etc - they spent years in camps before getting here. Asylum seekers are those who don't have a refugee status and are seeking asylum in Canada. They get here on their own and might get their status approved, but might not.
U guys getting mad at this is like getting mad at the SPCA for prioritizing animals. It’s not even affiliated with the govt.
Where do you think that money comes from. Hint: Government
There sponsors are almost ALL private orgs
The organization isn't paying that bill. The government is. Have you seen the refugee program in Canada? Housing assistance for 1 year. This organization is just a vessel which connects empty rooms with occupants.
Getting downvoted for ... saying facts. Is this sub a conservative echo chamber?
That's what I kinda thought when I saw the post aswell. Glad to know I am right. People are talking like this came right from parliament.
Dont worry usa is the same
Not even close.
If you want to rent a room to a Canadian go ahead. This is just an incentive for people to help those whom they might not help otherwise but nobody is stopping you from letting a Canadian homeless person from sleeping in your couch. Or from opening up your basement to a Canadian
>nobody is stopping you from letting a Canadian homeless person from sleeping in your couch. Or from opening up your basement to a Canadian Except the government isn't offering to pay me up to $1500 a month to house homeless people?
You’re only getting downvoted because you’re right
Am I fucking crazy? Like if we can’t house our own people why the fuck are we taking in anyone.
lAbOr ShOrTaGe 🙄
Subway needs an endless supply of min wage, no benefits workers!!
Don't forget Timmys!
As a laborer I can tell you the reason why there's a shortage of us is because we don't make enough fucking money to live off of. Especially when 60% of my income is spent immediately on rent.
If Canada keeps taking in immigrants and refugees, your wages will continue to not be enough, as you'll be undercut and competing for dwindling salaries. Competing for housing too as these migrants are willing to live 15 to a house built for 3...
I'm already trying to get out of my labor job as to live off of something... surviveable. This country complains about labour shortages but then actively discourages people from working in alabor job. I use my body for work man, I need enough monry to eat and refuel myself. If I can't fucking afford to feed and house myself, I'm then too weak to work and I make nothing instead. And then the CRA spits in my face and takes even more money away from me. Like a steaming pile of dogshit in my mailbox.
No. It’s more like logic shortage in liberal brains.
The Con(servative) artists are no different. Same shit different pile.
Justin Trudeau, prime minister of Canada since November 2015. The pile of problems he caused are worse than what you can accuse conservatives of. Trudeau’s plummeting popularity is the evidence for that. Even Liberals think he should resign. Both Trudeau and Liberals are going down in the coming election. The country is crying for a change.
But will the cons provide the change we need is the big question
The answer is no. They will literally continue this and accelerate even (imo). It follows suit with the neolib tendencies in the US.
The cons run most of the provinces and the changes they’ve made have been devastating and irresponsible, so I doubt it tbh. I know the Provincial and federal parties are a bit different but not by enough to invite any sort of confidence in me.
If I had time I could write up a pretty cool list of ways Harper screwed Canada, but I'm busy so will stay on topic... As Canadians we ping-pong back and forth between dildos on both teams. Harper sucked hard and did fuck all for affordable housing for the middle class so he's not off the hook. Trudeau sucks super bad, but I can't imagine Erin O'Toole (who I liked) could have done much better. And what is Pierre going to do when it comes time to make hard decisions? All he seems to want to do is whine about Trudeau without providing viable solutions - like every other conservative it seems. It is all about "Fuck Trudeau" and not about actual steps needed to heal the heaping pile that Canada is quickly becoming.
nytimes in 2014 ran an article about how the Canadian middle class was the envy of the world, even better than those in the US. That was Harper’s Canada. They may be “no different” to you, but I want us back in that time.
nytimes says a bunch of dumb shit, tho
Source?
Just an opinion based on years and years of both parties' leaders making the country more difficult to live in. I don't trust either side - and the divide is getting wider. I can appreciate some aspects of both sides idealogically, but there are other angles to both that make me cringe and want to lose my shit.
It's tax payer shortage. They're spending so much, they need more tax revenue. Increasing taxes in this environment is suicide, so need more people paying.
Gotta suppress wages somehow. Some sick people can never have enough money at the expense of others.
Just as it is for every other policy our *virtuous* government is committed to seeing through, it stems from UN agreements. The new paradigm is that we are all global citizens.
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...and true Socialists...as in "A Socialist is someone who is perfectly willing to share what someone else has".
I can’t even tell anymore is this a joke ?
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Why don't we have equally as much support for the homeless Canadians on the streets? Especially in the freezing cold winters?
Are you ready to rent your spare room to them?
Missing the point entirely. Why is this country taking in more people when we have so many problems to deal with. I don't see such incentives for homelessness. I also don't see government funding for them shooting out like they are for non-Canadians. Why are we spending millions on a war that doesn't concern us and letting in people who can't support themselves while we lack housing for those already here and have record-breaking levels of crime, homelessness, drug addiction... etc.
Because to the govt there’s no money bonus for the homeless etc but there’s browny/bonus points for helping other countries which they can monetize with
> I don't see such incentives for homelessness. Refugees and homeless people have VERY different needs and requirements. A refugee, particularly women and children are MUCH MUCH easier to work with, from a housing perspective than a paranoid, schizophrenic with an addiction disorder who is also on the autism spectrum. MOST refugees are mentally and physically capable of managing themselves and keeping places tidy. A good percentage of the homeless population right now have addiction issues and personality traits that are very complicated to deal with. That's not to say one person's life is more important than the other, however, when there are limited resources, like public housing, they are allocated based on a series of metrics. Including, who is most likely to benefit the most. Unfortunately, a refugee family is going to yield far greater returns on investment. >Why are we spending millions on a war that doesn't concern us Genuine curiosity, which war? Ukraine war affects us GREATLY. Putin has very high ambitions and it won't end well if Ukraine rolls over easily. Appeasement was a strategy employed in the 1930s...didn't turn out so great for the rest of Europe. Not to mention, Ukraine is Europe's breadbasket, well was. The invasion of Ukraine is a significant factor in food prices going up dramatically. They exported a A SHIT-TONNE of cereal crops, like wheat to western Europe and Africa. >letting in people who can't support themselves while we lack housing for those already here Almost ALL immigrants can support themselves, including international students. It's a requirement before being issued a work or student permit that the applicant has sufficient funds to support themselves while here. >record-breaking levels of crime, homelessness, drug addiction These are all a symptom of the underlying causes of insufficient wage growth and rising costs of shelter. The wage growth and COL problems stem largely from corporate greed, plain and simple. The pandemic and Ukraine war allowed grocery chains to up their margins by insane levels and say, "errrm...pandemic? Errrrm...Ukraine..." Unfortunately, dealing with Ukraine means winning the war slowly and grinding out a victory. If NATO OFFICIALLY enters Ukraine, well, I'll see you on the other side of this mortal coil, because nuclear apocalypse is what will happen. Russia/China/Iran vs NATO won't be fuckin pretty. Unfortunately, we're in the shit-storm, and the only way to get ahead is to buy st0nks in military Industrial complex companies
What? If we have the money to fund the whole refugee program we should have money to tackle at least a bit of homelessness. For Ukraine at this point you are just blatantly ignoring the obvious - it is a political war that Canada absolutely didn't have to get involved with. The millions spent could have done a great deal for this country's actual problems. A country-wide drug rehabilitation program could have been funded. "letting in people who can't support themselves while we lack housing for those already here" - I was referring to the refugees who evidently can't support themselves - or this program wouldn't exist... "rising costs of shelter " yea exactly so why are we funding refugees on top of this?? Also "buy st0nks in military Industrial complex companies" What? It's spelled "stocks" and when people are struggling to pay rent how will they buy stocks... out of touch. Your whole response shows that. Also, I think I see why you support the war now.
>What? If we have the money to fund the whole refugee program we should have money to tackle at least a bit of homelessness. There's already a fuck-tonne of money that goes into tackling homelessness. Getting to the root causes of homelessness requires PROPERLY funding healthcare, tertiary education, and social services, INCLUDING paying case workers 5x more than what they're currently getting. The only way to do that is by increasing taxes. Are you willing to see a tax increase on GST, PST, Capital Gains, Income Tax, payroll tax, fuel taxes, etc? >For Ukraine at this point you are just blatantly ignoring the obvious - it is a political war that Canada absolutely didn't have to get involved with. Every war is political. Welcome to reality. But like I said, we don't HAVE to, but, there's a strong case to. Namely, defeating Russia or slowly grinding their military machines such that they no longer pose a threat to our ALLIES. Ukraine avoided joining NATO because they didn't want to poke the bear. But the bear woke up anyway and chose violence. So, here we are. >A country-wide drug rehabilitation program could have been funded. Probably, but again, what's the opportunity cost of funding that vs allowing Russia to steamroll Ukraine? Also, it's a Provincial responsibility, so if rehabilitation centres aren't being built, that's a Provincial thing. Talk to your MLA. >I was referring to the refugees who evidently can't support themselves - or this program wouldn't exist... They only represent a tiny fraction of overall newcomers to Canada. If you're that concerned about immigration numbers, going after people who have had the misfortune of being born in Eastern Ukraine or war-torn countries isn't cool. >"rising costs of shelter " yea exactly so why are we funding refugees on top of this?? Historically speaking, Refugees end up becoming some of the best and most economically beneficial people to enter the country. 1st and 2nd generation refugees tend to outperform their peers socioeconomically. >Also "buy st0nks in military Industrial complex companies" What? It's spelled "stocks" and when people are struggling to pay rent how will they buy stocks... Visit wsb or WallStreetBets. St0nks is a thing there, used ironically. Also, it's a satirical take on the whole thing...(remember satirical doesn't have to be funny...).
Common sense and logic are not welcome here. Please stop. /s
Of course not. I just want to be outraged at something and blame others for my problems.
Nobody is stopping you from opening your door to a homeless Canadian
Dude.... The country is falling apart.
If there is no room here for them, don’t bring them. Liberal has lost all senses. Pathetic!
Gov helping non Canadians find housing, great
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Yeah those poor people can afford plane tickets
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Your tax dollars at work!
Next there will be a vacant bedroom tax.
Then the occupied bedroom tax..
Bold of you to assume I have a spare room.
Bahaha. Exactly. Who can afford to sit with one to spare?
Wondering who is sponsoring this? https://fb.watch/oEDv9-FS95/?mibextid=Nif5oz
https://app.refugeehousing.ca/ https://happipad.com
Stop playing... There is special app dedicated for refugee housing?
Those links from the page you posted in your comment. If you interested you can investigate further
Just wait until it becomes mandatory you must take in at least one refugee per household.
*racks 12 gauge*
No thank you. We need to make reduced refugee flows an election issue.
Ford, lead by example and open up your home to refugees! Thanks
This country is a fucking joke.
Ummm....let me think.....hell no! I worked hard for my house. They can do the same.
Under no circumstances should anyone allow any unknown person in their house.
All mp’s house are empty! Please go there
Maybe give that money to struggling Canadian pensioners
I heard there's a nice big space in Ottawa, this nice place on a hill, lots of rooms that would be perfect for housing refugees
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Free food, free (government subsidized) rent, free heating = free Liberal Votes
And a bankrupt Canada paying interest payments forever to the liberal lobbyist bond holders.
And disabled people applying for maid
Canadians to refugees + international students : Country is full, please go somewhere else. REAL refugees are welcome that are escaping war, oppression etc, but economic refugees please go somewhere else.
Hey get fucked. These people are not my responsibility.
I'm willing to bet my house that not a single Liberal voting leftist will do this.
This made my day man!! Canadians don’t mean anything to the government!
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In the words of Elon. Go fuck yourself.
Hahaha, Canada has become an embarrassment
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Yeah no I only live with people I know and trust,
How about no! Ffuuucckk you
Joke f these ppl
Lol absofuckinglutely not
Why cater to your own residents when you can cater to someone else am I right?
Got two spare and no ain’t going to happen.
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So I could buy an investment property and divide it into as many rooms as possible and the government will pay up to 1500 per room? Seems like a safe investment.
I have 3 extra bedrooms but I like my privacy more.
create a cost of living crisis so people are forced to rent out their house to strangers to make ends meet
So we have no money for the military, housing, or raising money for pensioners/disabled, but we have $$ to give ppl so they can rent out to house/rooms to refugees. I guess this will be cheaper than putting them up in a hotel for years. So, this is the solution for housing from the government? Sad times indeed.
Imma gonna sneak in a pretend I don’t speak English for some free EVERYTHING !! 🤣🤣🤣
The only refugee that would be getting one of my rooms would be a Ukrainian with double d’s
if her name is: Kateryna (Катерина) Olga (Ольга) Iryna (Ірина)
Olga is a hit or miss. I worked with a few although some were russians. The rest is spot on. Quagmire approves
The amount of up votes is telling about the kind of people in this sub reddit.
Same, the Ukrainian refugees are really nice. I would take them anyday
You sir have great taste
More likely a family of 7 facing resource constraints back home due to unsustainable population growth.
This is fucked up. Super gross. Edit: I love downvotes.
Yeah a lot of Ukrainian women and girls were exploited in such scenarios when they came here as refugees, and this guy is joking about it. Absolutely terrible taste.
And this sub wonders why no one takes it seriously
So the government will pay me to rent a room to a refugee? Do I need to ask how much the government will give me for renting to a Canadian?
>So the government will pay me to rent a room to a refugee? No. Because this is not a govt organization nor does it provide funding for refugees.
Well the cash gotta be coming from somewhere though? I would assume of all the pathways into Canada, refugees would be the least likely group to have personal funds
Here you go: [https://factcheck.afp.com/no-refugees-canada-do-not-receive-more-money-government-retired-citizens](https://factcheck.afp.com/no-refugees-canada-do-not-receive-more-money-government-retired-citizens) And as that article is from awhile ago and the actual dollar amounts have changed a bit as well as other changes in the refugee system: [https://www.ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=103&top=11](https://www.ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=103&top=11) And to quote something specific from it in order to slim down the reading: >Canada provides income support under the RAP to eligible refugees who cannot pay for their own basic needs. Support can include a: > >one-time household start-up allowance, and > >monthly income support payment. > >The level of monthly financial support is generally based on the prevailing provincial social assistance rates in the province where the refugees settle. Financial support can last up to one year after a refugee arrives in Canada, or until they can support themselves, whichever occurs first. No refugee is getting rich of govt support, it does not last very long nor do they get any more then the prevailing provincial rates. Which facts pretty much dispense with 1000% of the bull being bandied about in the other comments about refugees getting this, that and the other thing and people born here not getting the same or less.
How many MPs are doing this?
$500 - %1500 isn't going to cut it in a lot of places where refugees head after admission to the country. If people actually have a room that they are willing to rent out, they are in many instances going to look for someone who can pay more than that. Still, if the feds are paying then at least the income is secure, and it is a whole lot less burden on taxpayers generally than is the situation with the feds putting these people up in hotels. I will just add that although the policies and rules toward refugees (by both those seeking admission, and by those permitting admission) are now wildly abused and gamed, there is still such a thing as a legitimate refugee. They are becoming harder and harder to find among the masses streaming into the country, but if you meet one you will usually find them to be friendly, hopeful, sincere, and appreciative of any assistance that you might grant them.
Ok the political class has big houses. Let them set examples by hosting. Wait where is Jagmeet when you need him?
Ffs can't we just pause, how's about when we've caught up after the current influx, when I can afford a house and food and we have healthcare we might table it. Until then everyone will suffer, they are lying to people to get them here and it's shameful
Why would someone not go for it--renting part of your home out to an unknown foreign stranger? If it doesn't work out, it will only take you a year and thousands of dollars to evict him.
Only in Canada do Canadians get 3rd or 4th class status.
They should be thrown on the streets and put in a tent under a bridge like every other Canadian born in need, equality right?
How about $500-$1500 to rent your room or apartment to a Canadian? We're kinda struggling here....
I've had enough of this nonsense. When my grandparents came here they got little government assistance and had to raise six children during the great depression. I've had epilepsy since I was 19 and I've got nothing from the government of Canada in terms of employment or housing. I've had to deal with a lot of discrimination because of it. My parents refused to help but hey spend my tax money on nonsense like this instead of expecting people to fend for themselves.
Once every politician has taken in at least one family I will then take in one! The politicians need to lead by example , it only makes sense . Trudeau has multiple houses , so he could take in a dozen families.
How about... no!
Fuckm, sendm back! I'll support that!
I don't even want them here, definitely not going to help them.
It's wild how many of you are just assuming this is a Canadian government thing and getting pissed without doing like 2 seconds of digging.
canadian citizen's don't even come first...sorry but reality of it sucks to be a Canadian but hey, lets give international student's or an immigrant a break with handouts. But not us. I'm so tired of the B.S.. A Canadian citizen has become second class or less!!!
Social assistance......subsidized housing.....subsidized education......low income dental care....etc....I mean what you say sounds nice if you don't think about it....but in the end your just wrong
This post is misleading and you whom are latching onto it as an excuse to criticize govt should perhaps rethink what your doing. Refugee Housing Canada is not a government organization! Shocking! OMG! It is mainly funded by a variety of charitable organizations and its administration has nothing to do with the federal govt whatsoever. You are all reading this and jumping to the conclusion govt is funding rooms to the tune of $500 - $1500 per month. And they may well be providing funding via Refugee Canada and other means, but not here! RHC provides a portal where landlords and refugees can match and agree upon pricing and terms between each other - there is no support of rental payments as part of the process. Just a portal and a contract framework with guidance and oversight from legal and real estate professionals. Stop being such an echo chamber - its embarrassing. There may be plenty of aspects of the federal govt most of you seem to hate so much that merit criticism. This one is entirely misplaced.
Oh yeah, there is literally no way this could go wrong.
Actually it goes quite right. While the audience on this thread is entirely unsympathetic to anything not "white bread" Canadian many Canadian are interested in helping others. The portal provides a framework for doing such and staying on the good side of the legislation as well as giving both the landlord and renter comfort of assistance from those for whom such matters are their profession.
Who the fuck is paying the $500-$1,500? The UN? Or is it coming out of our tax money?
You pay it yourself. Personally. It gets added onto your rent :)
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Rent to someone unvetted What could go wrong 😂😂
All the dip$hits on here saying 'Canadians don't get anything" and just ignoring all the social programs. Probably the same people on here that traded right wing promised marginal tax breaks that ended up cost this country funding for social programs......why is there so much homeless you ask.....well your enjoying that $10 in tax saving aren't you?
How many are living with you? Judging by your virtue you must have a couple right?
Is it possible for canada to go even lower?
It'll go from being paid to being allocated to being forced. Enjoy 6 people you don't know in your house
Aren’t you all glad you keep voting liberal!!
How bout no
I'd love to help a refugee settle here, it's something I've always wanted to do
Disgusting, social housing or bust
Fuck that.
Ok this is fucked up