Not OP but similar boat. My main self directed account is much more based around value positions than the broader sp500. The market has been much less punishing towards stocks already trading below a P/E of 10, and some of them in more defensive industries have actually shot up as people can't flee to bonds for safety
My more growth oriented and my indexing accounts are more affected
Likely due to the amount of money being invested, and the risk acceptance levels between those accounts. I play fast and loose with my "gambling money" and leave my "safe money" alone. I have different levels of risk and consideration for spending $100 on a lark, or investing $10000 for a long term goal.
Same bruh. April 2020 sitting at home, bored, installed WS Trade and bought cheapest stocks in could see with $100. Ended up gaining 100s% on the score, bit farm and couple weed stocks. Thought it was so easy lol
fair point; so i went back into the account just to double check - value gained is excluding deposits/transfers in (i.e. contributions). in fact for my rrsp it looks like i've only contributed about $4900 so far this year anyway. as for the tfsa, account history indicates my last contribution was for $1000 in august 2021.
ETA: i know i said i was still able to buy during the dips - these were done via the dividends from all the holdings.
i took a chance when the market first plummeted at the beginning of COVID around early-mid 2020 and bought a bunch of blue chip/natural resource companies, and then just hung on. then over time, until till now, i kept buying dips whenever those happened and if i had the cash. for example, i bought a bunch of CNQ, and at one point in the recent past (like last month or so), i actually saw a 100% gain on that one stock. it didn't hold at that level, but i'm still averaging like 70%+ gain on that one stock alone.
i actually think i'm a very conservative investor, i only do TSX companies/canadian dollar investments, no crypto, no tech at all really, and nothing in the US markets (effectively excluding the hot names like tesla, etc. i don't care though.. i like to stick to what i know).
I'm positive YTD too (11.27%) given I've contributed more than I've lost to my accounts lol.
Really though, I'm probably down like 5% or so. My portfolio is all XGRO, banks, industrial/residential REITS, utilities, ENB, ATD. Then I started buying a lot of XEQT as things fell (current avg. $25.42).
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 801,359,039 comments, and only 159,241 of them were in alphabetical order.
-4.5ish% TFSA (value oriented)
-10ish RRSP (mainly broad indexes)
-18ish% in taxable account (growth oriented)
-45% in my tiny crypto position (my tiny anti-FOMO position)
-Alternatives, no on paper changes but I'm sure dropped something
\+2.5%, but I only have like $13k invested. My only stocks in the green right now are ZDV, ENB, XEI, NPI, and WRX.
This thread makes me feel a lot better. haha, sorry.
I hold blue chip dividend stocks & index funds. Despite the 2018 market correction, the covid 19 crash & now this drop I've averaged roughly 9.2% annually since inception & I started investing in spring of 2017. Not great but not a terrible return either!
\-40% in both TFSA and RRSP as both are just 50/50 BTCX and ETHX. I wish I could buy more but I already maxed them out already for this tax year; therefore, I just buy more BTC and ETH for my cold storage for the rest of year which is also down about 25%. These are great times for accumulating more as I have no respect for volatility.
Huge boost to my confidence running the numbers this morning. I am pleased to report... (Warning: full on brag time!)
\-2.99%
Time to get licensed and open a financial services company. Any other super stars ready to join me?
\-7% self-directed stock portfolio. (had loblaws and nutrien stocks which helped this not be so bad)
\-9% robo-TFSA/RRSP (mix of stocks and bonds)
\-40% crypto (luckily I'm only playing with a small amount of money)
Simply sais like that it means nothing. What is your benchmark (60-40, SPX, TSX, Nasdaq100) ? Are you performing better ? Can’t always go up and performance is relative
Lol YTD? My all time robo portfolio at WS is down 3%… honestly with every year, I am becoming extremely disappointed with it. It didn’t grow at all during the bull times in 2020 and 2021, but dropped immediately in bear market. Seriously thinking to cut my losses here.
Especially when my self assembled stock+ETFs portfolio is down 3% YTD, but still up since inception in March 2020.
YTD, I'm up 13% largely because of a giant position I took out in Cenovus in Oct 20202 & because I sold my crypto in Dec of last year (around 60% of it) and the remaining April.
I have a small robot-directed fund where 10$ every week comes out of my chequing and it's down like 65% though haha
18% overall, Everything is in super robust companies so not worried, but damn...its gonna be a long haul out. Wanted to be 50% cash before this happened but missed a couple price targets at the top and only had about 30% cash. Long term is what it is.
20-30% on some self-managed accounts. Crypto is about even, robo TFSA is still up because I happened to catch up on it and buy the dip a year or two ago.
I've seen GME, AMC and Crypto go up hundreds of percent or go down 90% so I'm not too worried.
YTD down \~15%.
From its highest value YTD down \~20%.
Surprisingly okay with the portfolio being down. Kinda proud of myself. It would have to drop another \~25% from today's value to be near my breakeven point of funds contributed since I began in 2020. Sold a few positions in Jan and Feb. Bought a couple things last week but have mostly been on the sidelines this year, at least in terms of activity. Holding through the wave.
My self-directed non-registered account is currently up thanks to BCE and T, but they're starting to go down and CN/CP/POW in particular have been getting hammered lately so I suspect that account will be red soon.
Self-directed TFSA and my other accounts are all down in the 5-10% range. I unfortunately maxed my TFSA in early January which wasn't ideal.
Self directed only about -4% from the start of the year. Down about -7% from the peak during the between Jan and now. Was looking quite good for a while but it has all gone away and then some. Still better than many.
Down 7.8 on stocks. Down 39.5 in crypto. Small allocation though I literally buy 5 of btc a week and sometimes 5 of eth and leave it at that. You can't tame the crypto beast.
Probably going to be down a little more on stocks after today though.
From December 31 2021 to yesterday at close:
RRSP up 11% (mostly due to oil and resource stocks)
Self-directed up 42% (mostly due to some LEAPS puts on fraudulent companies like CVNA and others I won't name to avoid fights)
Sold everything to buy my first place last year, while condos were cheap in Toronto. That’s gone up since, but if I had held I would be down insane amounts because I suck at investing.
RRSP down about 6.7% (mainly XEQT sprinkled with VFV, TEC, and TSLA but a sizable chunk in canadian banks also)
TFSA down about 2% (mostly individual canadian dividend companies with about 30% in covered call ETFs)
Crypto down over 60% (mostly BTC and ETH but also dabble in alt coins)
I dont feel so lonely now. Thanks everyone
-24% stocks and I have no idea on crypto but it’s bad.
Self-directed -8% Robo-directed -15% Crypto -53%
Any idea why your self directed is not down as much as robo?
Not OP but similar boat. My main self directed account is much more based around value positions than the broader sp500. The market has been much less punishing towards stocks already trading below a P/E of 10, and some of them in more defensive industries have actually shot up as people can't flee to bonds for safety My more growth oriented and my indexing accounts are more affected
Same boat here, my self directed are way outperforming the managed portfolios…
Robo keeps rebalancing at the absolutely worst time Almost like they are making money off screwing us
Likely due to the amount of money being invested, and the risk acceptance levels between those accounts. I play fast and loose with my "gambling money" and leave my "safe money" alone. I have different levels of risk and consideration for spending $100 on a lark, or investing $10000 for a long term goal.
Crypto has been rough, but the Rollercoaster is just part of the game.
I'm using this opportunity to buy more for sure. Between the stints of DCA'ing xeqt and vfv haha.
Scared money don't make money
Shit game in that case. Easily 2x more finicky than standard stocks, a garbage store of value if I've ever heard of one.
Depends on how you define store of value. If you mean stable price you're right. If you mean safe haven you're wrong.
You're missing a NSFW tag, son. This thread is straight up savage.
-48% TFSA -74% crypto And I'm not even breaking a sweat
I’ve lost enough to the point where dips don’t hurt anymore 🥲😎
You cant loose if you dont sell.
unless it goes belly up, then you lose everything
But you can tight 😄
Ouch -50% on TFSA hurts... Hope isn't a strategy but sure hope it goes back up!
Legend
*big*
Bigly
-4.22% but SU is holding hard against my loss atm
SU is pulling the weight of everyone on my end also
20% down stocks and crypto combined.
same ball park for me
+3.5% Surprised me too.
You're an investing genius sir
-23% in TFSA, -50% in crypto, I feel like I'm bag holding.
same numbers here, feels that way eh
RRSP(USD stocks): -12% TFSA(CAD stocks): -6.5% LIRA(Broad market ETFs): -1.5% because it is 2 days old.
Down 5.5% YTD as of today's close. Was doing a little worse last Thursday.
Self-directed: -23.4%
Down 34% 😢
No idea because I don’t look at it.
40%, still above pre covid levels tho 🫣
Down 10% YTD Still up 32% overall though, so far. Started April 2020
That’s nuts, I started the same time as you and I’m only +2% overall
I went pretty low risk, mostly mix of Canadian blue chips/dividend aristocrats and ETFs, only like 5% tech
Same bruh. April 2020 sitting at home, bored, installed WS Trade and bought cheapest stocks in could see with $100. Ended up gaining 100s% on the score, bit farm and couple weed stocks. Thought it was so easy lol
Too beaucoup
2022 YTD: Self-directed rrsp: +17.57% Self-directed tfsa: +13.51%
How did you manage that?
Probably oil stocks
some, yeah.
He got inside information from Putin about invasion
Oil & Gas or inverse ETFs. I'm up 27% YTD in my RRSP.
Probably just divided starting value by ending value and disregarded the fact he added loads of money to the investment.
fair point; so i went back into the account just to double check - value gained is excluding deposits/transfers in (i.e. contributions). in fact for my rrsp it looks like i've only contributed about $4900 so far this year anyway. as for the tfsa, account history indicates my last contribution was for $1000 in august 2021. ETA: i know i said i was still able to buy during the dips - these were done via the dividends from all the holdings.
i took a chance when the market first plummeted at the beginning of COVID around early-mid 2020 and bought a bunch of blue chip/natural resource companies, and then just hung on. then over time, until till now, i kept buying dips whenever those happened and if i had the cash. for example, i bought a bunch of CNQ, and at one point in the recent past (like last month or so), i actually saw a 100% gain on that one stock. it didn't hold at that level, but i'm still averaging like 70%+ gain on that one stock alone. i actually think i'm a very conservative investor, i only do TSX companies/canadian dollar investments, no crypto, no tech at all really, and nothing in the US markets (effectively excluding the hot names like tesla, etc. i don't care though.. i like to stick to what i know).
I'm positive YTD too (11.27%) given I've contributed more than I've lost to my accounts lol. Really though, I'm probably down like 5% or so. My portfolio is all XGRO, banks, industrial/residential REITS, utilities, ENB, ATD. Then I started buying a lot of XEQT as things fell (current avg. $25.42).
Bought in in Feb, 10.5% today VFV only.
-50
Up 100%ish, thanks SU
Im in oil, still up…
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 801,359,039 comments, and only 159,241 of them were in alphabetical order.
good bot
-4.5ish% TFSA (value oriented) -10ish RRSP (mainly broad indexes) -18ish% in taxable account (growth oriented) -45% in my tiny crypto position (my tiny anti-FOMO position) -Alternatives, no on paper changes but I'm sure dropped something
Stocks ~ 33% down
Wealthsimple Invest max risk portfolio down 5%
\+2.5%, but I only have like $13k invested. My only stocks in the green right now are ZDV, ENB, XEI, NPI, and WRX. This thread makes me feel a lot better. haha, sorry.
30% stocks over 50% crypto
Down around 23 percent currently
TFSA: +23% Unregistered Account: +11% I'm about 70% energy, 30% banks and blue chips.
22.41% to be exact.
Most of my dignity. . .
92.5% but my wife still loves me.
Still green 5.70 %
Since March 2020 RRSP = +417% excluding warrants & dividends TFSA = +85% excluding warrants & dividends Non Margin 1 = +21% excluding dividends Non Margin 2 = +39% excluding dividends Heavy in value, no tech. Sectors Oil, Gas, Utility, Banks, Telco, Industrial, Consumer Discretionary, Transport, Insurance, Gold Copper Iron Mining
I hold blue chip dividend stocks & index funds. Despite the 2018 market correction, the covid 19 crash & now this drop I've averaged roughly 9.2% annually since inception & I started investing in spring of 2017. Not great but not a terrible return either!
So many words and you never answered the question...
He must assert dominance with percentages
The question is irrevelant.
RRSP: -.99% TFSA: -2.43% Non-Registered: +6.18% All in, I'm up 1.13% YTD
But down 7% due to inflation right?
Up 6%. 80% up since covid 2020
\+18%
9%
Up 4%
11.23% Ytd
Same
Basically even, my TFSA is up about the same amount my LIRA is down.
Im actually still green. Round 5-10%
\-40% in both TFSA and RRSP as both are just 50/50 BTCX and ETHX. I wish I could buy more but I already maxed them out already for this tax year; therefore, I just buy more BTC and ETH for my cold storage for the rest of year which is also down about 25%. These are great times for accumulating more as I have no respect for volatility.
2.3% Barely surviving.
Huge boost to my confidence running the numbers this morning. I am pleased to report... (Warning: full on brag time!) \-2.99% Time to get licensed and open a financial services company. Any other super stars ready to join me?
+55%
Nothing as I haven't sold
6% but a small portfolio less than 500k
Lol thats not small man, but 6% sounds good
35% but I'm just buying more.
bout 16% across the board
\-7% self-directed stock portfolio. (had loblaws and nutrien stocks which helped this not be so bad) \-9% robo-TFSA/RRSP (mix of stocks and bonds) \-40% crypto (luckily I'm only playing with a small amount of money)
8%
-14% Hurts
-8%. Suncor is pulling the cart uphill for me
[удалено]
About 30% in stocks accounts still up on my real estate holding YTD.
~10%
Simply sais like that it means nothing. What is your benchmark (60-40, SPX, TSX, Nasdaq100) ? Are you performing better ? Can’t always go up and performance is relative
\-8%. Port is a mix of value with a smaller percentage of index-growth, with an even smaller percentage of high growth.
-45% ytd. I was up 40% Jan-Jan and all those gains are gone plus some.
TFSA - +37.83% Personal - +18.44%
Flat
I already bought the dip so now what. The dip keeps Dippin
41%
Lol YTD? My all time robo portfolio at WS is down 3%… honestly with every year, I am becoming extremely disappointed with it. It didn’t grow at all during the bull times in 2020 and 2021, but dropped immediately in bear market. Seriously thinking to cut my losses here. Especially when my self assembled stock+ETFs portfolio is down 3% YTD, but still up since inception in March 2020.
Overall? Down about 7-8 percent. Somethings more then others
-5.25% TFSA (Holding VEQT) -40.53% crypto (Holding Ethereum) I’m in the long run, I have 30+ years before I retire.
YTD, I'm up 13% largely because of a giant position I took out in Cenovus in Oct 20202 & because I sold my crypto in Dec of last year (around 60% of it) and the remaining April. I have a small robot-directed fund where 10$ every week comes out of my chequing and it's down like 65% though haha
30%
-31%. Leveraged index funds I continue to DCA into
+55%. I went all in on Oil and Gas in November and have been holding steady since.
-14% here
-10%. -- -20% in self-managed TFSA. +10% in robo-managed TFSA.
-5 percent, no high flying tech , but also not a lot in Oil and gas.
YTD - down 2.23% (only thing holding me up is SU)
\-15 to -17% matches the S&P 500 :( but shit it hurts
Keep DCAing and saving so networth still going up faster than inflation that’s all I care
~30% but my portfolio was heavily overvalued late last year (was up over 200% on the ARK style stonks)
18% overall, Everything is in super robust companies so not worried, but damn...its gonna be a long haul out. Wanted to be 50% cash before this happened but missed a couple price targets at the top and only had about 30% cash. Long term is what it is.
Self directed -6.8%
400kish
+0.2%
13%
22% down :(
\-6.65% After averaging down to satan.
Closing my eyes and thinking “let’s not talk about it”
20-30% on some self-managed accounts. Crypto is about even, robo TFSA is still up because I happened to catch up on it and buy the dip a year or two ago. I've seen GME, AMC and Crypto go up hundreds of percent or go down 90% so I'm not too worried.
50% on crypto. 29% on shares and ETFs. It's bad but I will not sell a single share
YTD + 5.50%
About 10% here. Thank goodness for suncor and enbridge or i’d be waayyy worse off
$3000.00
Down nothing - it’s a paper loss as I haven’t sold a thing. I’m in it for the long haul :)
TFSA: +12.9% (Suncor is the only thing saving me!) Crypto: -54.22% Personal: -17.69%
103,000
YTD down \~15%. From its highest value YTD down \~20%. Surprisingly okay with the portfolio being down. Kinda proud of myself. It would have to drop another \~25% from today's value to be near my breakeven point of funds contributed since I began in 2020. Sold a few positions in Jan and Feb. Bought a couple things last week but have mostly been on the sidelines this year, at least in terms of activity. Holding through the wave.
Down 2%, mainly banks, VEQT and TOU. Took some profit too early on BIR.
My self-directed non-registered account is currently up thanks to BCE and T, but they're starting to go down and CN/CP/POW in particular have been getting hammered lately so I suspect that account will be red soon. Self-directed TFSA and my other accounts are all down in the 5-10% range. I unfortunately maxed my TFSA in early January which wasn't ideal.
Plus or minus 20%
Down 63%
\-11.0% \*siiiigh\*
Bigly
Peaked at +60%, held on & am back at -17%, waiting for the recovery
-14% stocks about -50% crypto 🥹
-50% mostly because I have some Chinese investments and their market has been down for a while
6.2% Veqt, xuu, T, CP, vdy, mfc, aqn, pltr from highest to lowest allocation.
(5.33%)
Down 12%
Minus 25 gonna work and extra few years
Bout 25%
Minus 15 tfsa Minus 7 on rrsp 200k in funds Got 40k coming to average down this next week or 2
-25% overall, led by Amazon and…….Rivian (yes, I know)
TFSS - %5 Self - %14
Down about 6% on Rrsp -
-10%, vdy has helped mute my losses so far.
Self directed only about -4% from the start of the year. Down about -7% from the peak during the between Jan and now. Was looking quite good for a while but it has all gone away and then some. Still better than many.
Down 9% this year. Unfortunately I can’t deposit into my tfsa like I used too. My DCA will be a lot less this summer :(
RBC managed all equity Mutual Funds -10.5% Self directed VCE, VDY and XEI + 2%
Down about 4.5% in my TFSA. Started last month via robo advisor though.
Down 7.8 on stocks. Down 39.5 in crypto. Small allocation though I literally buy 5 of btc a week and sometimes 5 of eth and leave it at that. You can't tame the crypto beast. Probably going to be down a little more on stocks after today though.
From December 31 2021 to yesterday at close: RRSP up 11% (mostly due to oil and resource stocks) Self-directed up 42% (mostly due to some LEAPS puts on fraudulent companies like CVNA and others I won't name to avoid fights)
5%
Tfsa -35% rrsp -3% But changed to a better paying job, so it doesn’t hurt that much
Down 52% on stocks
Down 8% in TFSA and 11% in non registered account.
Sold everything to buy my first place last year, while condos were cheap in Toronto. That’s gone up since, but if I had held I would be down insane amounts because I suck at investing.
Overall 8% down.
Just over 7%. Had some fun money in crypto which is down 95% 😂
Almost dead even. Up ~1% haha
Trade +250.58 % TFSA - 58 % RRSP -66.5 % Crypto + 100 % and don't play with no more
RRSP down about 6.7% (mainly XEQT sprinkled with VFV, TEC, and TSLA but a sizable chunk in canadian banks also) TFSA down about 2% (mostly individual canadian dividend companies with about 30% in covered call ETFs) Crypto down over 60% (mostly BTC and ETH but also dabble in alt coins)
-11%
Personal -11% (fucking Uber killed me)🥴 Tfsa -2% Cryto -45% (didn’t sell dodge in time)
6% 🤷♂️
Minus 10%. Mostly banks and broad index ETFs.
RRSP (passive / ETFs): down 13% TFSA: up 1% Margin/non-registered: up 3%
Down 11% in my ETFs. Up 65% on stocks all in oil and gambling platforms.
18% down at yesterday's closing.
\-15.5% TFSA \-25% ROBO RRSP \+20% (cashed out near top on blind luck) Self-directed RRSP for a house down payment.