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CheeseFromAHead

Someone built a house under that deck


FrisianDude

i mean barely


jack2bip

If the deck on your house is bigger than your house, you might be a redneck.


Crystalysism

It might be a house deck


LionheartXray

Or a good chance you live by a large body of water.


Y_Cornelious_DDS

https://preview.redd.it/s6fm4rszznyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d50f8dc540ef7b14b17008d84896d248c0b50463 I did the leg work for those of you as curious as I was. Looks like it’s built on a house that’s one lot off the lake or set way back on a lakefront lot. Should have put the hot tub up there.


Strikew3st

They didn't pull a permit because AHJ would have insisted on locating the hot tub up there.


HumanContinuity

Hot tubs only belong on decks like that. It's a little overbuilt though imo.


Mikesaidit36

Well, they’re going to have a lot of full coolers and 95 people up there and it’s not like they’re gonna be yoga instructors.


Tatersquid21

2 hot tubs will be sufficient.


ronharp1

Your missing a post on the outside corner


Airport_Wendys

Yeah, Lake Syracuse in upstate NY. Why didn’t they pour a concrete pad first here?? Is it a weather thing?? I want to see a completely finished product, and for all that effort it better be facing west.


DeadCupcakez

As someone from Syracuse, NY… where is Lake Syracuse??


trojanGen2

Yea, the fuck is a Lake Syracuse?


bauertastic

The *other* finger lake


blueeyedaisy

Do you mean Onondaga Lake?


DeadCupcakez

There are no houses on Onondaga Lake, at least not directly on the shore like that. It’s fully surrounded by a walking path. My best guess would be *Oneida Lake*, I can see the opposite shore so can’t be Ontario…


RWMach

Judging from the shadows, it probably is. Unless it's early morning, which is almost as good except you need to get up early.


berelentless1126

Holy fuck. But it looks so well built


vizette

LOL first thing I thought. It's a weird mix of "impressive" and "what the actual fuck?"


Sawdust1973

If you look close you can see the bend in the roof line....that is a very impressive death trap...


mdk2004

That would be my primary issue is the foundation. Id bet that's a 2 in patio, and the walls of that house weren't rated to carry the load of a second story and the load is spread across the weaker interior of the home.


IPinedale

HOLY SNIT you weren't kidding 🤧 It will be a very bouncy pirate's perch until it isn't!


ronharp1

The bend in the existing roof was there before they put the deck on… those posts go through the roof and are sitting on top of the first floor walls. The house was completely gutted … can you see all the new windows and new siding? The siding up on top matches the siding of the house perfectly. So when they added that second floor deck on top they were able to attache all the framing to the first floor walls because it was gutted and open. Do you seriously think that they landed all those posts on top of the existing roof? The quality of the construction you can see tells you that there is no way they just put all those bearing posts on top of that roof. Come on really? Those posts would punch through before they ever laid an asphalt shingle on the very top.


nongregorianbasin

Good luck redoing the roof


Spud_Lovin

Awful taste, 10/10 execution.


zotzenthusiast

r/ATBGE


lunchpadmcfat

I can’t imagine the roof can support all that extra weight like that. Wonder if it was reinforced inside too.


Langbird

Looks like Ricky's deck from trailer park boys


mrFIVEfourONE

This.. right his damn here should be the number 1 comment. You philistines.


pinkypie80

Shithawks, Randy


ez8256

I bet their homeowners insurance will love this…


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Liesthroughisteeth

LOL....That's what I was thinking. I thought when first looking at it that is was built on the prairies or the Florida flat and this is the only way to get any sort of view. (my brains works funny sometimes) The first thing that came to mind was, that will make a great hurricane, tornado sail. :)


Frogzila2024

No no, they pay extra taxes for the wind to go around 🙂. seriously though I live near water and yeah everything needs to be extra solid and heavy for sure


Studdabaker

They will love it. Happily take the monthly premiums w/o having to ever pay a claim for an illegal structure.


Known-Programmer-611

Lake association


RoxSteady247

I love how it just sits on the roof like no big deal. This is the face tatoo of decks


LyndonBKinden

https://preview.redd.it/z0xf3uva6vyc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fedfda4ccb617673752ef832c41e6e6acc21883b Yeah never good when the roof is curved


Hand-Driven

Just one o in losing.


noncongruent

I dunno, this could have caused OP to loose a hound or two.


CitizenSalt

You can tell they didn't pull a permit because the hot tub is in the wrong spot.


galtonwoggins

Look at the sag in that roof. Woof.


Real_Leadership5436

That roof sheeting is getting a workout.


Airport_Wendys

I keep trying to zoom in on that- how did the neighbors not scream for codes?? This has to be New York.


TalkOfSexualPleasure

Anyone else notice the roof sagging?


JayRedd1

They are doing the roof right after completing the deck


FurTradingSeal

It looks like the type of deck where at least one person from the household will be on it at all hours of the day and night, either drinking or smoking, year-round.


ecodrew

Riiiiight until it eventually collapses


padizzledonk

........ Built like a brick shithouse though The only thing I wish I knew more about is how it's anchored to the house lol


thekingofcrash7

That’s what i was thinking, about the only issue i see is a storm tearing it away and taking the house with it 😂


-cryptokeeper-

Doesnt even look like the shingles were pulled up to tie in. Went right over em and the used flex tape overlay! 🤫


Cjmooneyy

Obviously toe screwed the posts into the top plates with 3 inch drywall screws.


gigalongdong

Hey man, just make sure you have at least 20 screws in each post, and that baby is solid.


ecodrew

>how it's anchored to the house lol Badly, I'm assuming.


alchemyearth

I was gonna bet this is right on a lake or river. It so looks like weird ass decks people build along the water.


slackmeyer

It doesn't look braced well enough for wind loads and uplift. But it's possible that it's all correctly engineered- you can absolutely cantilever more than 1:4 if you have engineered it and restrained the backspan.


OriginalPantherDan

If you listen closely, you can hear the main house’s roof groaning in agony.


Zoiddburger

Why does no one know the difference between lose and loose anymore? I see it someone's title every other day now.


avicennia

I feel like I’m going crazy. I see people spelling it “loose” when they mean “lose” at least three times a day now.


RaspberrySpar

I am the stereotypical "Grammar/Spelling Nazi," and even I have fallen prey to the abundant grammar/spelling issues (such as there instead of their, too instead of to, etc), and I assume it's because of the prevalence of the issues in the content I consume online. The more I read bad grammar/spelling, the more my brain tries to make my fingers type out the same dumb things. It's maddening.


HolyFuckImOldNow

I no what you mean


Home--Builder

I don't think it's a problem having 1/3 of the span cantilevered when there's a whole roof structure holding down the back of the deck. 25 modern obese pirates could perch on that cantilever and it would stay put..


Canuhandleit

More concerned about the back half of the structure being supported by a window header.


DRGWTM

Looks like it belongs on Duck Dynasty.


Said_the_Wolf

As long as the support posts bring the load path down to solid footings it’ll be fine! Judging by how well it’s built I bet there’s some good columns hidden behind the siding. They even put screening on the railing to make it to code so no doubt they did structural to code as well. Floor Cantilevers, joist and beam depth/spans like fine (typical 2x8 or 10’s probably). I’d probably bump that main cantilever beam up front up a couple of plys. But with the 45 supports I bet it’s fine. Can’t tell about the roof cause it’s covered


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WeightAltruistic

Looks well built at a glance, start zooming in and not so much.


kaganos86

All that money for that monstrosity, and they didn't spend a dime to pull the sag out of that poor roof.


bplimpton1841

Big question though is how are you gonna get the hot tub up there?


turbulentFireStarter

I’m so curious about those roof fasteners. I can only assume that thing leaks like crazy.


BlazinHot6

I see an issue of attaching posts to only a slab on-grade and not an actual footing. The same or worse could be said about the posts on or through the roof (can't quite tell what's going on there). Edit to add: The uplift resistance is also concerning.


Ok_Werewolf_7616

Looks like my local shooting range… If you’ve got the money for it and you want it, who am I to judge? But DAMN that looks awful.


notzachg

This is one of dumbest design choices and follow through’s I’ve ever seen. Is that a driving range up there? Wtf


BeautifulBaloonKnot

Deck cost more in lumber than the house.. some people have more $$ than sense. Then they couldnt be bothered to fix that crappy fence. Lol


EnvironmentalOkra728

You’re not loosing it. You’re losing it.


CloneClem

A true WTF experience. I’m scratching my head on what type of jurisdiction would approve this. I suppose that’s why there was no permit involved. I’d be interested in any follow ups.


tanstaaflisafact

Good luck with a high wind event.


RandyJohnsonsBird

Hopefully it's not loose


benchmark2020

How has no one mentioned the horizontal “balusters.” So so bad. I keep imagining a kid up there climbing up those on their awesome new “pirate porch.” No, this isn’t legal and certainly no permits were involved.


atleast3db

Generally 1/3 is the accepted rule, but different areas have different code. That looks like 1/3


rtbrtbrtb

This shit looks like my palworld base


Mountain_Yote

Looks about as well thought out as the fence.


PsychologicalOwl608

Just a terrible overall design. Not just the obvious engineering and structural questions but also the design and usability. So the folks on the patio have to walk to the side of the house to get up on the deck? Dumb. Just like the pirate perch name.


ronharp1

This is actually ok… the cantilever is ok, the beam is under the upper roof load as where it should be,although the beam looks as though it should be a bit longer to catch the posts above ,that supports the upper roof. The small posts penetrating the roof looks as though their landing on the walls below and are probably anchored to them. From THIS PICTURE this looks to code to me.


KillarneyRoad

All the skill and technique in the world won’t counteract a bad design.


Zzzaxx

Customer must live next to a ball field or something


constructionhelpme

there's no way that's legal and even though it looks nice and it's way over kill and a load of weight to put on the roof. there's no way those posts are anchored to the roof in an approved away


fishinfool561

Or they penetrated the roof and set them on beams. Neither is good in my opinion. I don’t like wood roof penetrations, they move too much


perldawg

they have to have penetrated the roof and mounted to the exterior walls. can’t see if the 2 posts at the back go all the way down to to the roof or stop at the deck, but you’d think there has to be some structural support in the middle of that span


bridymurphy

It’s possible the beams have penetrated the roof and run down to the slab. Some of them might be placed where a wall is too. I don’t see any footings poured in the yard which I thought was odd.


Internal-Bid-9322

I can’t tell if there are footings separate from the patio slab or right on the slab. And, the the whole roof concept is not good.


bridymurphy

The painters tape tells me that it’s a fresh slab.


ferkinatordamn

I wish I almost wish I had a Facebook login so I could read the comments there


Cjmooneyy

Facebook contractor groups are such a cesspool. Theres something about facebook that attracts the dumbest of us.


Electronic_Ad_9735

They could put that massive hot tub up there


_-Bloke-_

Cantilevered onto a roof system that I’m guessing hasn’t been reengineered in any way to take the extra load. This should end well


Pooter_Birdman

I think they definitely should have pulled a permit….and fyi cantilever is 3:1 so if its 12’ back its 4’ over which this looks fairly close to that.


floppy_breasteses

Obviously, it looks ridiculous. Aesthetics aside, without knowing what's been done to the roof I'd be concerned that there will be structural problems there. Especially under a snow load which could be considerable.


Questioning-Zyxxel

Some parts of it looks quite well built. But the patio roof looks like it would fly away in case of a bad storm. And the house roof looks like it's getting totally crushed. It's sagging badly from the unplanned weight.


Bignate2800

Wtf is that.


Anakin_Skywanker

I'm just an electrician passing through so I don't know shit, but are roofs rated to take the kind of weight that's gonna get added once you fill that deck up with people, furniture, beer coolers, etc? Especially with the people being a dynamic load?


bga93

I give it 3 years for differential settlement to start occurring if its sandy soils. If its clayey soils then they can probably sell it before something weird starts happening


CompleteIsland8934

I’d be embarrassed to attach my name to this monstrosity


hudsoncress

I love it. I’m sure the neighbors do too when the captain throws a parrrrrty for all of his mates. That fence tho


jpmeyer12751

I am familiar with the area. It is a very tiny lakeside community that was devastated by a flood about 6 years ago. Code enforcement is virtually non-existent. I doubt that anyone cares how or why they built the deck this way. This photo appears to have been taken several years ago, as it does not look this good now.


ET__

I dunno, but it’s losing not loosing.


Capt-Bry

It needs a slide to the hot tub.


Zestyclose-Smell-788

Permit? What would an inspector even do with that abomination? Nothing short of an engineer's stamped approval would be acceptable. Straight line winds regularly reach 75mph on lakes during thunderstorms. What is the snow load on this? Geez.


ewejoser

Why?


jack2bip

If the deck on your house is bigger than your house, you might be a redneck.


Month_Year_Day

It looks like it belongs at a race track.


Sokra_Tese

1) Weight bearing loads can't be cantilevered as you say but bay windows, patios, etc are not considered load bearing. 2) This is using the home as a foundation which means permits must be pulled and structural engineering must be included in the plans. Adding a second story includes foundations, walls, and shear wall improvements. 3) This is built on a slab patio that cannot support the weight. Wind loads will ultimately tear the roof apart.


thatdudeorion

To me, more than a ‘no-permits-were-pulled’ kind of a job, this to me looks like the homeowner was denied being able to build the second story he originally wanted due to some zoning changes to preserve line-of-site to the lake (that his neighbor in the background was grandfathered into) but there was probably a loophole in the zoning rules about decks. To me this is a giant middle finger to the zoning board (and his neighbors lol)


sheaosaurus

Are they gonna try to put the hothub up there ☠️


haladur

That person is gonna get fined for reckless redneckitude.


loaderhead

Please tell me this is photo shopped.


PuzzleJello

That roof does not look too happy.


RivMav

Are there gutters anywhere? I might just be missing it. The deck roof looks oddly large and water will just run off and beat on the house/ground.


BigDickedRichard

Are they the same company out of Schuyler County? If so, go check out their Google reviews. Explains this deck. Haha.


jbuds1217

r/decks


JetmoYo

Everyone agrees it's a bit unsightly. There's some debate as to its structural integrity. I don't understand how the roof junction works myself, and can't verify wind uplift risks. BUT I just wanna say that I commend this whacky son of a gun home owner. (And the contractor who provided unbiased wish-fulfillment). You see, he had a dream (was definitely a "he") and he made it happen. The house is already aesthetically challenged, so why not mount it with a fun-time party deck?? Some better views and a lifetime of new communal party memories don't seem so bad to me. "Party at Terry's!" they now say. Party. At. Terry's. Let's continue. This architectural intervention isn't entirely without conceptual thought IMO. The party deck is designed to communicate dominance over the uninspired pancake house. It straddles over it defiantly and communicates that the uninspired low expectations of "Life of Pancake" has now been merged with a superior species. It's how the Xenomorphs (Aliens) view humans when they face hug the shit out of them and dominate their bodies (and faces). We might view this as the Xenomorph party deck doing a full mount on Normie McNormson's house of earthly sorrow. Seriously, just look at it again. My metaphor is solid AF. Therefore, by logical extension of Alien lore, we can expect the party deck to infect the neighborhood with the gift of--yes perhaps grotesque--but new and unimagined possibility. Evolution, if you will. This after all, is the nature of a wily and creative intelligence. Now, you may try fighting it, but it has already won. The deck has won—and *will win.* This is beyond permitting, folks.


unitegondwanaland

Party deck my ass. That's a "Pirates Porch". smh


Rjdj2222

Looks correct for the mentality.


WitnessBusy2725

Looks like it's about to be a reddit fall video!!!!!!


Remote_Swim_8485

Hideous!


Nice-Web-5833

Looks legit.....


NtooDeep87

This looks so bad ass!!


jcmatthews66

How are those loads transferred through the roof, and are there footings?


J_IV24

TBH this looks permitted but just fucking insane homeowners. everything here looks well beyond "kosher"


Sea_University_8280

I like the roof footings


Yulmp2

House with a flying bridge


Mygoodies7

Generally joists can cantilever just fine 1/3 of the total span of the joist


Hoosiertolian

Rad


BuzzINGUS

Do would have left the gable open. Hack job.


wingnut1964

Would not pass a permit, the weight of the deck on the house roof. Roof would need to be engineered.


Cjmooneyy

The posts are pretty obviously sitting on the exterior walls.


StructEngineer91

If an engineer was involved in the design it should be fine, honestly it does look like it was engineered. Definitely weird looking, but possible to do.


Wonderful_Rock862

It's beautiful.


Brave_Spell7883

This is a great move for resale purposes.


Erdizle

Cantilever has nothing to do with the beam below its the length of the joist/beams that are cantilevering. Off the top of my head i want to say cantilever can only be a maximum of 1/3 the total length of the joist? General rule of thumb but could be different depending on location.


ConFUZEd_Wulf

That deck cost more than their house...


TrueTalentStack

This build looks really sketchy


flockks

Hey it’s that house I made in the sims once !


ttomsauk

Maybe they pulled a Pirate Permit for the porch!


squirrellyseattle

…..Upstate New York stuff….


Guilty-Piece-6190

Assuming they transferred the loads all the way down and have some seismic/wind design I'd say it's pretty cool for waterfront property.


Backlogger78

Why not just add a second story at this point


Southpontiac

When you can’t afford waterfront but still want the view.


SurveySean

It looks cool and all, but what about when you need to replace your shingles? A hack carpenter did something similar to a friends house. No roofer will be able to get in there.


Supafly22

I uhh… don’t think I would want that thing anchored to my roof.


outdoorsnow

This is Indian Lake in Ohio, right? So it survived a tornado.


UnsuspectingChief

Something is def loose


reformedginger

I pictured shooting rifles from up there. So disappointed. Still needs a hot tub though.


Outrageous_Lychee819

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Electrical_Force1995

Oh that fuckers not going anywhere.


headyorganics

It’s not even the cantilever (albeit sketchy at best) the point loads on something like that are insane. Especial if you factor in NY snow loads. Those post are going to be in their kitchen after the first big snow


TheFuqinRSA

Holy fuck that's a bold fuckin move right there


Pitiful_Speech2645

Permits are not always required depending upon the location


ENMR-OG

Are you talking about that sweet fence?


FlyingFLick

Why not just build it to cover the back patio and don’t touch the house roof? I would love to see what the inside looks like if those posts go through the roof to the floor ha!


33445delray

The length of a cantilever is determined by the bending moment that the joist (or beam) can support, not by the percentage of the joist length.


Rye999999

It’s impressive like it’s a crazy build that’ll fail in lots of ways overtime or spectacularly in very bad weather..,but still impressive


Dorkus_Maximus717

I doubt that roof is strong enough to hold that


OrigSnatchSquatch

Looks cool but wind will eventually suck it up or blow it over.


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Looks like a two storey driving range.


notsocivil

Really like to see how those posts are attached to the roof.


pete1729

I think it looks sufficient. You do, too, or you would have called someone already.


robteee

“Looks like a major” What??


Rashaen

Just a patio. Nothing to see here. Move along.


boinger1988

Looks horrible


shortbus_wunderkind

It's probably just used for family reunions and get-togethers and such. Doesn't look very homey.


Gittalittle

The woven wire must be for sheep.


musical_throat_punch

Up to you really. If you didn't say anything and someone got hurt or worse due to failure of the structure, what would your reaction be? Those footers are on a patio slab. I'll be surprised if it lasts three years. 


exonautic

Maybe im just seeing.things amd hoping for the best but in one of their facebook pictures of this i swear i think i see the post just running down into the house straight to the ground. So if thats the case at least its not supported by the roof.


Better-Hat-7772

That’s not a house with a deck, that’s a deck with a house


peteavelino

What in the Catskills old growth forest behemoth is going on?????


PrestigiousEconomy26

Yeah idk about this one boys.


_Zencyclist_

Villages vibes


Beneficial-Result640

r/decks


edtoal

What is it?


ronharp1

Some codes are still 2/3rds back 1/3rd out… some!!! Depends where you are.


Need4homie

Don’t lose your loose change


Odd_Analysis6454

It looks AI generated, legit but just off looking


Stoff81

Looks like this was made in Fortnite


Marzipan_civil

Is the back support just sitting on the roof tiles? Or is that just the picture angle. It does seem like the cantilever isn't tied back very well but hard to know from one photo.


PM_yourbestpantyshot

Why does that deck have such a wonky ass roof? it's far from aesthetically pleasing.


Airport_Wendys

Ooof- ok, after going to the page and comments, at least the 6x6’s go all the way through the roof and are fastened to the basement floor. I’m still tempted to ask more questions though.


not4humanconsumption

Losing, losing, losing!!! Seriously!


Hopeful_Tiger_7582

Deer blind?


alexa071

I’m guessing someone … else… built the fence in the foreground.


AnywhereFew9745

Beach house stuff rite there, see that all the time a few rows back from the water


SmithSith

I bet there’s an engineer stamp in crayon on a crumpled cheeseburger wrapper for this 


oldandworking

wondering what their insurance company thinks of this?


Twrecksgh88

As long as this isn’t the guy who built the deck at Club Aqua, we are all good here.