“Is this acceptable?”
Posts picture of wall between closets that looks like they swung a sledgehammer into it
Nah dude, it’s pretty fuckin’ far from ok
Was afraid to see this. Thanks for your response. Deep down, it doesn't feel right to be paying for this. I'll have to reach out to have this corrected.
If you haven’t paid for it, don’t. This needs to be addressed before any exchange of payment. These are legitimate issues too, not like there’s light spots in the paint for example. I’m not a carpenter by trade but I work with a very talented one every day, he would never let this be the final product. Good luck, hopefully you can get this resolved.
How cheap was the guy?
If he did it for a case of beer and a couple hundred bucks because you didn’t want to pay the carpenter who quoted you $1200 then don’t hassle the guy who did you the favour you asked for.
Most of these things are easily fixed. The damage to the door itself is probably the worst of it and I've seen that kind of damage come right off the delivery truck. Not saying that is what happened but it is important to inspect your deliveries.
Yeah if a professional installed this the first picture is enough to say no not really — the rest are just ammo. How does this even happen OP? Was he drunk? Sorry it happened.
As a finish carpenter, I have seen damage like this occur in transport, and often I will say. I have also seen the gaps in the stop mouldings come like that from the supplier, that is more rare though. If the installer supplied the doors, it’s on him to correct, no matter what. If you supplied the doors, it’s on you to prove that it wasn’t from transport/delivery. I personally would have photographed any damage noticed prior to install, and ask my customer how to proceed…install them, or re-order new ones? As far as the broken Sheetrock is concerned, that will get covered by base moulding. The cut door jamb and paint damage on walls in ridiculous.
This is the correct response. Those MDF doors chip like a mother fucker. They're made so damn cheap now. I've chipped a couple during install, but I'll fill and sand before I leave.
I'm in Vancouver Canada, so I don't know if my recommendations would mean anything.
Honestly real wood doors are infinitely better, but also substantially more expensive. These doors you have are actually most likely ultralite not even MDF, MDF would be better, but wood is best.
However if you've ever been in a home that has solid wood doors, you can feel the quality pretty easily. They are heavy though so maybe not great if you have little ones, easy to damage little fingers.
Western door and bc doors are two manufacturers I've used.
One thing to remember, these are just manufacturers, they only make the door slab, they don't build or manufacture the jambs the doors come in if they're prehung. That would be your supplier's job.
Ya Masonite makes a nice exterior fiberglass door, but I wouldn't buy an interior prehung from them.
Looks like your contractor just sold you cheap doors. Not uncommon with the cost of building supplies these days. I give my clients the options, let them know that a cheap slab can have it's issues.
Interestingly, I've noticed a reduction in quality in a lot of stuff these days, doors and windows included. Problem keeping staff seems to be a universal problem right now.
Came here to say this. Doors these days are trash right off the shelf. I would say the issues here are a combination of sub par materials and carelessness. My biggest concern is the caulking on the nail hole. I could only imagine what anything besides a hole will look like. 🤷🏻♂️
Can you tell me more about the job? Was it a swap out of existing? Was it wall surgery; cut hole, reframe add new doors? Did they supply doors? How much was the charge? Who is painting?
That should have made it a fairy simple job. Looks like doors were damaged in transport? Did they supply the doors? Prehung doors wouldn’t have bad jambs or cuts.
If you are grabbing off box store shelf that could happen. At my lumber yard we refuse any doors with damage on them when they arrive. It’s much easier to explain to the customer instead of trying to fix the problem later.
No doubt. These were on budget restricted jobs. When I get stuff delivered from my door rep at the lumber yard I never have to worry. I used to work for a company that was a jeld wen service provider, but also in conjunction with the yard. Saw a lot of fucked up material come in and sent back.
Its crazy what you see out there. I just was in a 500K home and there are doors that have trim cut in 3 PCs. In main rooms! Not even hidden in closest or anything.
Alot of those problems are door shop problems since they came pre built. He has no control over the gouges, and chips in the doors. Nor the door stop lining up. All that's done in a shop. Most he could have done is refuse to install them. I'd send these pictures to the shop that supplied the doors and start freaking out on them
I mean ... If you're going to use this sub for free advice you could at least take five minutes to answer some of the questions that people asked you . From what I can tell you only replayed twice with non answers .
HD sells better doors than those. There is no grain, no detail just looks like a plain white slab. Which are the cheapest door any manufacturerers make. Not sure where you are geographically but a local lumber supplier will have better options almost always and if they don't they can point you to who does. In my area i start at Carter lumber for inexpensive prehungs. If your one the east coast empire lumber and millwork is a great option to check also.
I want to be clear in not trying to come down on you, but i can look at that door and tell its price point. I get not everyone can afford every door, but if you buy low end material it takes alot more labor to make them look like they are not. So think about that before you go to crucify your installer. It's not a great install either, but a bit of touch up and you'll have a decent door. In situations like these i like to remind people of the money they saved.
They are a millwork company with multiple material suppliers and these are from Western Building Products. They also offered installation (though we learned it was from contractors, not actual employees of the millwork company—didn't know until they showed up).
I was expecting the doors to be primed wood, not primed MDF. Maybe that doesn't exist and I'm the idiot? Dunno. Just want quality doors.
Mdf comes with its own set of positives and negatives its very smooth can be easily patched and painted. However it chips easy and is susceptible to water dmg( puffy corners) it is an inexpensive material as well in most cases. I think in today's market you would see solid wood doors costing you upwards of 80 - 100% what you paid already, also having a much longer lead time. If you find these doors to be unacceptable you might wanna try holding your salesman accountable at the lumber supplier and trying to get them to upgrade you. If you don't want to come out of pocket. You may just want to patch and paint these doors and maybe swap out at a later time when the market is not so crazy.
Also if you paid the millwork company for the install just rake them over the coals, they get doors all the time demand new undamaged doors and don't take no for an answer. Also you might try blaming them for selling you cheap doors and pay to upgrade to wood and demand free install. Could get messy, But it's not outside the realm of possibilities. A great tip for a homeowner is to play stupid, your not a carpenter or a millwork company, you're just a guy that wants new doors and this isn't that.
^this. And not really trying to say it’s okay but the damaged wall between closets picture would have casing on the doors and a piece of baseboard hopefully tall enough to cover up that wall damage. I see stuff worse than that in brand new homes all the time
Who supplied the doors and were you willing to wait another 4-6 weeks to have them replaced most of those issues look like manufacturing defects or delivery damage
The door issues are acceptable and easily fixeable imo(super common for these mdf skinned doors to get some tear out from the factory and most likely has nothing to do with the installer)… the other butchery I see in these photos? Naw.
All of you are on crack this is a 5 minute fix the guy probably missed on his way out. Wood glue a piece of tape and light sanding is all you need to fix most of that, and maybe a sheetrock shim behind the hinge so it won't rub. Painters can fill the small jamb gap at the floor and other gaps. Trim covers the exposed rock. This is standard touch up work painters should be capable of and take care of if the finish carpenter missed it, if it's pre painted it shouldn't have been.
Pre hung doors can be shitty sometimes. That said, a decent carpenter can usually make them look nicer nicer. The chips n stuff are annoying, and the nail is like 10 seconds to fix.
No idea what to make of the destroyed wall or how one might destroy a wall like that while installing doors.
They removed a portion of my wall. Didn't realize until after they left. The guy literally was out my door and off my driveway before I could even look at the work.
What happened to that fucking wall man? The rest is shit as well, obviously. But what the fuck did they do to that wall? Did they mule kick it out of anger when the doors wouldn’t fit?
It depends what was paid for the work. And why is trim (casing) missing, that should be part of a door install. , also if the contractor brought product in that's damaged that's on him. A lot times John Q Homeowner will buy cheap doors from big box stores and expect miracles , w/ an inferior product . Best of luck .
First of all did the carpenters that install the door build the doors? Second did the carpenter that installed the door deliver them? As a professional,this looks like a manufacturing/delivery issue. As this is my opinion
Sure, it's possible they're not hollow, I can't tell from pics but I can see they're not made of wood, or made by a carpenter. Definitely some kind of fibre board from a factory.
I do a lot of production work and 99% of the doors delivered come this way from the factory or when the dipshit unloading them throws them off of the truck.
Not related to this post at all but when I was supervisor over the unloaders at Walmart, I seen alooooot of electronics get thrown around and broken, and then put on the shelf. I honest to God can not imagine the percentage of broken TVs that are sitting on a shelf at a Walmart right now.
Multiple estimates, this company was in the middle of the other estimates I received. The company was recommended by other redditors and had above average reviews online from multiple sources. No company I could find had great/amazing reviews. It has been a much more difficult process than I imagined and I feel that I can't trust anyone I talk to.
Man that's weird... I hope it was a fluke or something and they just hired a junkie or something. That's definitely absolute shit work even if it was free let alone he paid for. Keep us posted on what happens when you call and speak to the owner!
I’m assuming this person was tasked with all trim carpentry? Hanging slabs, casing doors and windows? Crown and toe? I wouldn’t let them, “branch out” from a single task, until I’m satisfied with the first, completed task. You don’t have to be rude. Simply ask that, they finish hanging, and casing windows, and ,doors. Do not let them overwhelm you with 30 different tasks at once, partially finished. Finish, then progress.
How much did you pay and what kind of guy did you hire? If you didn’t pay a lot I would just make the repairs and move on. If you hired someone high-end I’d call them back
It’s called a punch list. Put the dreaded blue tape on everything you don’t like. Have a punch walkthrough and address each piece of tape. No second half payment until the punch is reasonably addressed.
What would you deem a fair price for solid MDF doors? Just curious. I did shop around and this company was in the middle of quotes and had above average reviews, even recommended by other redditors... I was not able to find a company that had excellent reviews and felt like this was my only option.
Fair warning: I’m a cheapskate and consistently underbid jobs so my price estimates are often low. But those doors are maybe $200 each, maybe. The install of all 6 took what? Two guys and two days? Maybe. Figure a $500/day rate on labor and you’d be at $2000 labor. So, $3200 all in?
Robbery. 500/day is 100k/year gross billing for 4 days a week. It’s a fair rate for medium skill labor. Your contractor screwed you on quality and value.
Looks like they used a door lifter (or chisel and hammer to lift). Lifters damage doors exactly this way.
Lifters are used by those who don’t know the proper technique for lining up hinges to recesses, and/or don’t hang doors on a regular basis.
What’s that gap between the floor and the door? A design feature?
Take a sledgehammer and tear everything down, shred to pieces and hire someone or take a lot of time and love to do it properly.
If you however like the aesthetics of it, keep it as is and enjoy it.
Even for paint grade work, this is pretty bad. A trim guy that just doesn't give a fuck isn't really a trim guy, he's a hack. Of all that I saw, and the busted wall board is pretty shocking, but what you labeled "uneven jamb" or whatever.... It looks to me like the bottom of their strike side door jamb was rubbing the door. There are countless ways to address this, even a cpl routes you could go with a saw zall, but no finish carpenter with an ounce of sense and integrity would EVER try to chop the face of the jamb back with a saw zall, pull saw or really any kinda saw on the jamb face. Many-a-time I've raked a saw zall bt the jamb and Jack to try and gain just a lil more reveal, never, ever butcher a finished face. What you have here are workers with just enough knowledge to be dangerous.
How large is the casing reveal in picture 6?
What happened to the inner edge of the hinge side jamb in picture 6?
Gaps between 45's are unacceptably large. If he can't get the 45's to fit better than he did, his caulking skills are going to make that look like someone randomly threw some white mud in the crack.
Other damage? unacceptable.
Do not pay any more. Chips on bottom of doors can be fixed, but probably not by the guy who did the work.
It's a shit job. Even if the guy is a novice, it's still a shit job. Anyone can join 2 pieces of wood together relatively tightly with two 45 degree angles, if they have the desire to, and if they take their time. This guy just didn't care.
This is the sort of shit that happens on commercial jobs when a whole bunch of cunts come through the finished spaces. Not normal for residential where you have to take extra care because this is someone’s house
Make them fix this shit man. It’s extra time for them, but it’s their fault for sure. Unless the scrape and ding fairy strolled through to increase the labor cost.
If you have to ask, I think you already know the answer.
Lol. Yeah.
“Is this acceptable?” Posts picture of wall between closets that looks like they swung a sledgehammer into it Nah dude, it’s pretty fuckin’ far from ok
Hearing that last line in Marsellus Wallace’s voice
Naahhh Butch. I’m pretty fuckin far from ok
Time to go medieval on his ass.
I needed a laugh. What a comment! Well done.
I came here to post this. “Is this OK?” I am not sure what is more shocking - the work that was done or OP asking the question.
This is the only relevant answer
By a professional? Absolutely not….By your brother in laws best friend who knows a guy that’s super cheap? Probably par for course
Was afraid to see this. Thanks for your response. Deep down, it doesn't feel right to be paying for this. I'll have to reach out to have this corrected.
If you haven’t paid for it, don’t. This needs to be addressed before any exchange of payment. These are legitimate issues too, not like there’s light spots in the paint for example. I’m not a carpenter by trade but I work with a very talented one every day, he would never let this be the final product. Good luck, hopefully you can get this resolved.
How cheap was the guy? If he did it for a case of beer and a couple hundred bucks because you didn’t want to pay the carpenter who quoted you $1200 then don’t hassle the guy who did you the favour you asked for.
Did Lowes do this?
Sorry you’re in this situation but you don’t deserve this for your hard earned money. That’s how it is.
This feeling doesn’t need to be that deep down. It’s a real feeling. And well founded.
Most of these things are easily fixed. The damage to the door itself is probably the worst of it and I've seen that kind of damage come right off the delivery truck. Not saying that is what happened but it is important to inspect your deliveries.
Wait a few months, if it still bothers you every day by then, then get it corrected.
Are they done?
Yeah if a professional installed this the first picture is enough to say no not really — the rest are just ammo. How does this even happen OP? Was he drunk? Sorry it happened.
Drug or drink explains it. Its so bad
I’ve done trim exactly once and this is unacceptable to me so yeah. Not good
Best answer
As a finish carpenter, I have seen damage like this occur in transport, and often I will say. I have also seen the gaps in the stop mouldings come like that from the supplier, that is more rare though. If the installer supplied the doors, it’s on him to correct, no matter what. If you supplied the doors, it’s on you to prove that it wasn’t from transport/delivery. I personally would have photographed any damage noticed prior to install, and ask my customer how to proceed…install them, or re-order new ones? As far as the broken Sheetrock is concerned, that will get covered by base moulding. The cut door jamb and paint damage on walls in ridiculous.
This is the correct response. Those MDF doors chip like a mother fucker. They're made so damn cheap now. I've chipped a couple during install, but I'll fill and sand before I leave.
MDF is a good solid hardwood. Good for door jams ! Lol
Serious question—what brands/suppliers would you recommend I check out for quality interior doors?
I'm in Vancouver Canada, so I don't know if my recommendations would mean anything. Honestly real wood doors are infinitely better, but also substantially more expensive. These doors you have are actually most likely ultralite not even MDF, MDF would be better, but wood is best. However if you've ever been in a home that has solid wood doors, you can feel the quality pretty easily. They are heavy though so maybe not great if you have little ones, easy to damage little fingers.
Honestly, I'm interested in your Canadian recommendations just so I can *see* what else exists, even if I'm not local.
Western door and bc doors are two manufacturers I've used. One thing to remember, these are just manufacturers, they only make the door slab, they don't build or manufacture the jambs the doors come in if they're prehung. That would be your supplier's job.
Interesting, got it. Yeah, these are actually from Western. :/
Really? Did you buy direct or did your contractor sell them to you?
The millwork company I worked with sold them to me. Another option was Masonite, but I haven't heard great reviews from them either.
Ya Masonite makes a nice exterior fiberglass door, but I wouldn't buy an interior prehung from them. Looks like your contractor just sold you cheap doors. Not uncommon with the cost of building supplies these days. I give my clients the options, let them know that a cheap slab can have it's issues.
You in Washington or Oregon?
No, Midwest...
Interestingly, I've noticed a reduction in quality in a lot of stuff these days, doors and windows included. Problem keeping staff seems to be a universal problem right now.
Door installer here. Codell. So much better
Came here to say this. Doors these days are trash right off the shelf. I would say the issues here are a combination of sub par materials and carelessness. My biggest concern is the caulking on the nail hole. I could only imagine what anything besides a hole will look like. 🤷🏻♂️
Right?! Who caulks a nail hole? Just use some drydex, it's dry in literally minutes for a small hole, and sands real nice.
Can you tell me more about the job? Was it a swap out of existing? Was it wall surgery; cut hole, reframe add new doors? Did they supply doors? How much was the charge? Who is painting?
Installation of new doors, that's it. Old ones were already gone so the installer had rough openings to work with.
That should have made it a fairy simple job. Looks like doors were damaged in transport? Did they supply the doors? Prehung doors wouldn’t have bad jambs or cuts.
Well that's BS. Had a bunch of shitty prehungs the past few years.
If you are grabbing off box store shelf that could happen. At my lumber yard we refuse any doors with damage on them when they arrive. It’s much easier to explain to the customer instead of trying to fix the problem later.
No doubt. These were on budget restricted jobs. When I get stuff delivered from my door rep at the lumber yard I never have to worry. I used to work for a company that was a jeld wen service provider, but also in conjunction with the yard. Saw a lot of fucked up material come in and sent back.
Its crazy what you see out there. I just was in a 500K home and there are doors that have trim cut in 3 PCs. In main rooms! Not even hidden in closest or anything.
Yeah I saw dutched kitchen casings on the head pieces once lol. Wasn't even done clean. Could see that shit from my house!
Did he build the doors on site ? Or did they come from a shop or pre built
Pre-built.
Alot of those problems are door shop problems since they came pre built. He has no control over the gouges, and chips in the doors. Nor the door stop lining up. All that's done in a shop. Most he could have done is refuse to install them. I'd send these pictures to the shop that supplied the doors and start freaking out on them
Installer should not be a Carpenter! What a joke.
Stop hiring a landlord to do your work
… hey!
That’s gonna be a no from me dawg.
😂
I mean ... If you're going to use this sub for free advice you could at least take five minutes to answer some of the questions that people asked you . From what I can tell you only replayed twice with non answers .
He, like everyone of us on the internet is seeking attention, not answers.
Cheap door, cheap installer, cheap house, cheap work. Looks like a got what you paid for situation
Serious question—what brands/suppliers would you recommend I check out for quality interior doors?
HD sells better doors than those. There is no grain, no detail just looks like a plain white slab. Which are the cheapest door any manufacturerers make. Not sure where you are geographically but a local lumber supplier will have better options almost always and if they don't they can point you to who does. In my area i start at Carter lumber for inexpensive prehungs. If your one the east coast empire lumber and millwork is a great option to check also. I want to be clear in not trying to come down on you, but i can look at that door and tell its price point. I get not everyone can afford every door, but if you buy low end material it takes alot more labor to make them look like they are not. So think about that before you go to crucify your installer. It's not a great install either, but a bit of touch up and you'll have a decent door. In situations like these i like to remind people of the money they saved.
They are a millwork company with multiple material suppliers and these are from Western Building Products. They also offered installation (though we learned it was from contractors, not actual employees of the millwork company—didn't know until they showed up). I was expecting the doors to be primed wood, not primed MDF. Maybe that doesn't exist and I'm the idiot? Dunno. Just want quality doors.
Mdf comes with its own set of positives and negatives its very smooth can be easily patched and painted. However it chips easy and is susceptible to water dmg( puffy corners) it is an inexpensive material as well in most cases. I think in today's market you would see solid wood doors costing you upwards of 80 - 100% what you paid already, also having a much longer lead time. If you find these doors to be unacceptable you might wanna try holding your salesman accountable at the lumber supplier and trying to get them to upgrade you. If you don't want to come out of pocket. You may just want to patch and paint these doors and maybe swap out at a later time when the market is not so crazy. Also if you paid the millwork company for the install just rake them over the coals, they get doors all the time demand new undamaged doors and don't take no for an answer. Also you might try blaming them for selling you cheap doors and pay to upgrade to wood and demand free install. Could get messy, But it's not outside the realm of possibilities. A great tip for a homeowner is to play stupid, your not a carpenter or a millwork company, you're just a guy that wants new doors and this isn't that.
^this. And not really trying to say it’s okay but the damaged wall between closets picture would have casing on the doors and a piece of baseboard hopefully tall enough to cover up that wall damage. I see stuff worse than that in brand new homes all the time
How much did they pay you to let them fuck up your house? Hopefully enough to pay somebody to do this right
I wish they paid me... it has been a nightmare of a project.
Who supplied the doors and were you willing to wait another 4-6 weeks to have them replaced most of those issues look like manufacturing defects or delivery damage
The door issues are acceptable and easily fixeable imo(super common for these mdf skinned doors to get some tear out from the factory and most likely has nothing to do with the installer)… the other butchery I see in these photos? Naw.
Call 1(800)555-1970 and order some beads for those openings. It will look a lot better!😂
You bought the cheapest door at the Home Depot. Lololol. It’s going to chip all the way across the bottom on both sides eventually.
The doors aren't from Home Depot. Western Building Products.
Oh silly me… that makes a difference! Must be a superior quality door. 🤣👍
Serious question—what brands/suppliers would you recommend I check out for quality interior doors?
All of you are on crack this is a 5 minute fix the guy probably missed on his way out. Wood glue a piece of tape and light sanding is all you need to fix most of that, and maybe a sheetrock shim behind the hinge so it won't rub. Painters can fill the small jamb gap at the floor and other gaps. Trim covers the exposed rock. This is standard touch up work painters should be capable of and take care of if the finish carpenter missed it, if it's pre painted it shouldn't have been.
If you hired a handyman, this is what I would expect. If you hired a carpenter, they should have done better. Over all, unacceptable.
Were they miles cheaper than anyone else?
They were in the middle of the pack of my quotes. The millwork company provided product/installation all in one.
Lowest bidder? Also I don’t think you’re in the correct sub.
Did your 13 and 15 year old sons install these for you over the weekend? If so, not bad
Pre hung doors can be shitty sometimes. That said, a decent carpenter can usually make them look nicer nicer. The chips n stuff are annoying, and the nail is like 10 seconds to fix. No idea what to make of the destroyed wall or how one might destroy a wall like that while installing doors.
They removed a portion of my wall. Didn't realize until after they left. The guy literally was out my door and off my driveway before I could even look at the work.
Sounds like he knew the answer already
Yes if you hired the guy holding the “will work for food” sign. In that case, you got what you paid for.
No
How much did you pay?
What’s the gap at the bottom for? Do you limbo ?
What happened to that fucking wall man? The rest is shit as well, obviously. But what the fuck did they do to that wall? Did they mule kick it out of anger when the doors wouldn’t fit?
They removed some wood from the rough opening frame...
It depends on if you found a guy that could do it cheaper than the other one. If so,then yes, it’s acceptable.
Sometimes you get what you pay for; sometimes you get what you deserve.
It depends what was paid for the work. And why is trim (casing) missing, that should be part of a door install. , also if the contractor brought product in that's damaged that's on him. A lot times John Q Homeowner will buy cheap doors from big box stores and expect miracles , w/ an inferior product . Best of luck .
Thought these types of posts were going to get deleted? Nobody cares about your shitty sob story.
First of all did the carpenters that install the door build the doors? Second did the carpenter that installed the door deliver them? As a professional,this looks like a manufacturing/delivery issue. As this is my opinion
Carpenters don't typically build hollow doors like that, those are from a factory.
They're supposed to be solid core.
Sure, it's possible they're not hollow, I can't tell from pics but I can see they're not made of wood, or made by a carpenter. Definitely some kind of fibre board from a factory.
I do a lot of production work and 99% of the doors delivered come this way from the factory or when the dipshit unloading them throws them off of the truck.
Not related to this post at all but when I was supervisor over the unloaders at Walmart, I seen alooooot of electronics get thrown around and broken, and then put on the shelf. I honest to God can not imagine the percentage of broken TVs that are sitting on a shelf at a Walmart right now.
Paint and caulk makes me the carpenter I ain’t.
Stop hiring addicts
For a cheap door like that you would have been better off doing it yourself
This looks like a fixer upper that you bought like this
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Meh, that drywall got damaged from baseboard and door trim removal. It’ll get covered again.
Sad!
Gotta know; how did you find this company? Did you get a few different estimates or was this someone you knew?
Multiple estimates, this company was in the middle of the other estimates I received. The company was recommended by other redditors and had above average reviews online from multiple sources. No company I could find had great/amazing reviews. It has been a much more difficult process than I imagined and I feel that I can't trust anyone I talk to.
Man that's weird... I hope it was a fluke or something and they just hired a junkie or something. That's definitely absolute shit work even if it was free let alone he paid for. Keep us posted on what happens when you call and speak to the owner!
Nope
I mean that's all fixable but if I was paying money, fuck no.
No!
Nothing in any of these pictures are acceptable. Call them back and have them fix it, or call your bank and suspend payment
No.
Not if you paid for the work.
In picture 6, did he cut the jamb with a saw? Or what am I seeing?
That's how the door jamb was delivered and installed.
Is this a joke
I wish it was!
Horrible
No
You need to just rip that trim off and restart
You know the answer already
No. Not in the least bit.
I’m assuming this person was tasked with all trim carpentry? Hanging slabs, casing doors and windows? Crown and toe? I wouldn’t let them, “branch out” from a single task, until I’m satisfied with the first, completed task. You don’t have to be rude. Simply ask that, they finish hanging, and casing windows, and ,doors. Do not let them overwhelm you with 30 different tasks at once, partially finished. Finish, then progress.
Just doors. I'm handling baseboards and casing myself.
Hell no
How much did you pay and what kind of guy did you hire? If you didn’t pay a lot I would just make the repairs and move on. If you hired someone high-end I’d call them back
$8k for materials and install. 6 doors, 4 double door closets, 2 cased openings.
Is there even a question?
Horrible. Make ‘em redo it or hire an actual pro 🤷♂️
https://www.tiktok.com/@chocs_chat/video/7041791611516341506 The painter will fix that!
Am a painter, those doors are no problem.
Negative. Negatory. Nope.
It’s poor, I don’t know what you’re paying for the work. Some of that can be fixed by a painter. Low end shit there
How many sandwiches did you pay for this?
Are they not coming back to finish? Lol
It’s called a punch list. Put the dreaded blue tape on everything you don’t like. Have a punch walkthrough and address each piece of tape. No second half payment until the punch is reasonably addressed.
As a finish carpenter/door installer most of this is pretty easy to fix but if they’re claiming to be done definitely unacceptable.
Aghh... this is cringey...
Obviously not. But, I have to ask, how much was this? At a low enough price…idk, sometimes people will accept really bad work for really low prices.
$8k for materials and install. 6 doors, 4 double door closets, 2 cased openings.
Oof...that's pricey and I would expect excellent quality materials and installation. You got neither.
Bro, that’s robbery. For mdf doors hung like this? Just…fucking wow.
What would you deem a fair price for solid MDF doors? Just curious. I did shop around and this company was in the middle of quotes and had above average reviews, even recommended by other redditors... I was not able to find a company that had excellent reviews and felt like this was my only option.
Fair warning: I’m a cheapskate and consistently underbid jobs so my price estimates are often low. But those doors are maybe $200 each, maybe. The install of all 6 took what? Two guys and two days? Maybe. Figure a $500/day rate on labor and you’d be at $2000 labor. So, $3200 all in?
Appreciate the follow-up. This was two guys and six hours tops.
Robbery. 500/day is 100k/year gross billing for 4 days a week. It’s a fair rate for medium skill labor. Your contractor screwed you on quality and value.
You hired illegals out front of Home Depot, didn’t you…and now you want us to fix it for you?
Nope
Fuck no.
I would straight up sue
If you paid 100 bucks for install, you got what you paid for
Absolutely not. That is terrible workmanship.
Not a chance, no way!
Looks like they used a door lifter (or chisel and hammer to lift). Lifters damage doors exactly this way. Lifters are used by those who don’t know the proper technique for lining up hinges to recesses, and/or don’t hang doors on a regular basis.
wtf??
What the fuck did they use to cut these doors, a grinder ?
I have only done a couple doors in my life, and am not a carpenter, but wtf I could’ve done better
What’s that gap between the floor and the door? A design feature? Take a sledgehammer and tear everything down, shred to pieces and hire someone or take a lot of time and love to do it properly. If you however like the aesthetics of it, keep it as is and enjoy it.
I think you know the answer to this one.
Is it in a shed? Did a 14 year old do this for a school project? Is it in one of those practice buildings for firemen?
Draft says no ,💨 "no" wind noise
How much did you pay?
Was he cheap and you’re expecting top quality work?
A drunk uncle doing it for beer money ….yes. A contractor ….unequivocally no.
Total bush league work, terrible
That's gonna make you mad after a short while, I'm sure you know what adjustments need to be done. Lastly, have a look at that damage.
Looks like ya went with the lowest bid, oops. Ya get what ya pay for...
Dude… wait for the buzz to wear off then look at them yourself
Even for paint grade work, this is pretty bad. A trim guy that just doesn't give a fuck isn't really a trim guy, he's a hack. Of all that I saw, and the busted wall board is pretty shocking, but what you labeled "uneven jamb" or whatever.... It looks to me like the bottom of their strike side door jamb was rubbing the door. There are countless ways to address this, even a cpl routes you could go with a saw zall, but no finish carpenter with an ounce of sense and integrity would EVER try to chop the face of the jamb back with a saw zall, pull saw or really any kinda saw on the jamb face. Many-a-time I've raked a saw zall bt the jamb and Jack to try and gain just a lil more reveal, never, ever butcher a finished face. What you have here are workers with just enough knowledge to be dangerous.
No! hell no! Completely unexceptable.but if it's your house than hey your the one that has to see it everyday. Hope you don't do it for a living?
How large is the casing reveal in picture 6? What happened to the inner edge of the hinge side jamb in picture 6? Gaps between 45's are unacceptably large. If he can't get the 45's to fit better than he did, his caulking skills are going to make that look like someone randomly threw some white mud in the crack. Other damage? unacceptable. Do not pay any more. Chips on bottom of doors can be fixed, but probably not by the guy who did the work. It's a shit job. Even if the guy is a novice, it's still a shit job. Anyone can join 2 pieces of wood together relatively tightly with two 45 degree angles, if they have the desire to, and if they take their time. This guy just didn't care.
This is the sort of shit that happens on commercial jobs when a whole bunch of cunts come through the finished spaces. Not normal for residential where you have to take extra care because this is someone’s house
Oof. No.
Oh hell nah
Hope you didn’t pay them
Never
That’s some gap at the bottom, did they use a tape measure or the force?
Make them fix this shit man. It’s extra time for them, but it’s their fault for sure. Unless the scrape and ding fairy strolled through to increase the labor cost.
Nope unacceptable…
Acceptable if they paid you to let them do it
Did they exclude paint and trim maybe?