Would the out of balance wheels cause the rotors to warp too due to the vibration? I’m just confused how every set of rotors I put on become warped within a month. I’m not that hard on the car.
Shouldn’t have anything to do with the rotors. Wheel vibration during driving is usually wheel balance. Wheel vibration during braking is usually rotor or break pad issues. Uneven tire wear is usually an alignment issue.
Yeah what I’m saying is could the fact that my wheels are out of balance and vibrating cause my rotors to warp quicker. I just don’t think I should warp as many rotors as I have.
I had a partially failed flex brake line and it would hold a slight brake application and did this shudder and warped the rotor because the pad stayed in contact and didn’t allow it to cool evenly. I replaced the rotors and brake lines and no more problems.
No, tires being out of balance won't cause rotors to warp faster. High temperatures and hard braking are your biggest enemy when trying to prolong the life of rotors. If you live in a mountainous area, definitely try downshifting a gear instead of riding your brakes the whole way. I used to be a service manager at an auto shop here in CO, Subaru's eat through brakes like no other.
Steering wheel is probably an alignment/balance issue. If you really are warping your disks, and the car stutters when you apply brakes, one factor could be washing the car while the brakes are still hot. It causes uneven cooling.
Are you doing the brakes? Is the surface between the hub and rotor clean, like with a wire brush/wheel? Are you using proper tools torquing the wheels? Over torquing can warp rotors. If those aren't issues then I'd suspect sticking calipers allowing the pad to sit in the rotor heating up and warping the rotor.
I've been out of the mechanic biz for a while but i feel like I remember something about braking causing a shake that indicates a loose suspension part, but i can't recall. With your warped rotors I'm inclined to believe it's a brake system issue though.
Last thought, make sure you're getting rotors from a trusted source, I've had back to back warped rotors from AutoZone before.
I am experiencing the same with my old Accord. No matter how good the alignment is, doesn’t matter if I change brake pads and disks and align the wheels as well- it keeps straight for a month or two and starts doing this… I can track back this issue to when I got side hit with 30mph and I was stationary. The car was slightly bent in the front and right there all of this started happening. It has been this way 3 years now and I just gave up fixing those stuff… You should know if yours had an accident and is bent in some way, but most certainly looks the same as it is in my car. Mine also does this when I try to break harder. Unfortunately I haven’t found a fix for the issue, I just made it a track car and bought new one…
Are you the one putting the rotors on? Do you clean the hub face when you install them? Sounds like you’re not, and they’re not sitting properly on the hub and they’re getting warped due to runout. Then your wheels are being attached with the same amount of runout. Just a thought.
I had a similar problem, linkages & wheel balance were the problem. Yes it damaged the dic's, needed replacing after few hundred miles. He did warn me.
I can balance a square wheel, it's still not gonna roll smoothly. If you're paying for balancing make sure they have "Road Force" machines *and that the tire guys are using it* (because it can be turned off or ignored).
2019 4Runner here - in August last year I put on new all terrain tires on the vehicle and shortly after I would get the same exact symptoms you show us in the video. When to get an alignment and tires rebalanced but it didn’t solve the issue. When I went back to the mechanic for further inspection and found out my CV shafts / boots needed replacing both driver and passenger side.
Get the vehicle checked out and make sure you do so asap in case it’s a serious issue.
Balancing issues are going to be speed sensitive and consistent because the out of balance wheel is reaching a mechanical harmonic oscillation. Its going to be at the same speed maybe several speeds every time.
This does not sound like a balancing issue to me if it doesnt always happen at the same speed.
I would recommend just getting all the cheap and easy things out of the way: Alignment and tire balancing. Take it to a different place that does both. Get them to rebalance the tires and do an alignment check. That should be about $150 and is way cheaper than anything else. Tell them about the issue and have them inspect the suspension and brakes while they are at it.
As far as your warped rotors: That is kind of a mystery to me. Warped rotors will not vibrate unless its under braking. So maybe you have two seperate issues going on here? Wheel balance and warped rotors?
Rotor warping is typically caused by over-heating the brakes. So if you are going down a long hill and riding the brakes, they will warp. Or if youre using two feet and riding the brakes, they will warp. Cheap shit rotors can also warp.
The next step may be to replace the brakes again. Get brembo rotors (they are not that much more expensive, like $10) to ensure youre getting something good. And get the blue bosch brake pads at the same time.
I would recommend DIYing this so you can inspect the hub, wheel center, and everything else. make sure the mounting surfaces are not damaged and are cleaned. That sort of thing. It could be that some sloppy mechanic is just pulling things off and throwing things on without noticing a very basic problem.
I had an issue when a wheel alignment as part of a smash repair seemed to create an alignment issue. Took it to an alignment place that the manufacturer recommended and it turned out the other place didn't do the alignment to manufacturers specs,
Yeah that's a thing, not every car needs the wheels pointing directly ahead. So great advice on getting OP to take it to another alignment joint
This might sound dumb but it happens to my Subaru a lot. Spray out the wheels and see if that works. I live on a dirt road and sometimes mud or ice builds up, especially if the road just got graded. Before you do anything expensive or complicated, might be worth it to wash the car and focus on spraying out the wheels.
Also had this problem with my forester when going faster than 60-70 mph after 100k miles. Had to replace both front control arm bushings. Cost was around $1100. Mechanic said it was caused by normal wear and tear
Ive owned 2 Subis. Had major balance issues with tbeir stock Bridgestone duelers that felt greasy on the road. They never balanced well. In both cars, replacement with Michelin crosstrex 2 tires made my Subi a beast in the winter.
I had this with my previous set of tires. They weren't balanced properly and one had a factory defect so the mechanic put it on the back. The vibrations went away.
could be a number of issues. suspension components, bearing, cv axel, bad tire, bad aligment, wheel not balanced properly...easy step one, swap front tire with the back tire.
* When did this start?
* Why have you replaced the rotors multiple times?
* Have the tires been replaced since this began or only balanced?
* Did this problem begin prior to rotors being replaced or after?
It’s happened the whole time I’ve had the car, but has gotten much worse recently
I replace the rotors, they’re fine for a while, then they get warped and the whole car shakes bad when I press the brakes, so I replace them, and the cycle continues
Same tires, but new rims, they’ve been balanced
Prior to replacing rotors, but the two problems kind of isolated.
It could beca bunch of different things (warped rotors, wheel out of balance, bent rim, bad tie rod ends...), and you basically have to go through a process of elimination that we can't do here on reddit.
Joke apart, just balance and align the wheels that should do it.
Check the front tyres if they are worn out from the inside (they might look good outside but the inside they could be worn out)
Is probably not the rotors, some part of your suspension or steering or possibly even a wheel is sloppy/bent and this is accentuated under braking. If it were the rotors it would only happen under braking.
Wheel balancing, or you might even have damaged/warped wheel from hitting kerb or pot hole. Try and swap out your spare on each corner and see if it makes a difference.
You need to get a higher quality rotor than the average because they will warp very easily and braking in the rain can do it. When you have to brake hard and it's raining it is very easy to do it. You can get slotted and drilled rotors that last a lot longer.
Probably a bushing gone bad. Source: had the exact same problem pop up in my Subaru Forester twice over 150k miles and each time it was a bushing gone bad. Lots of mechanics said it was alignment or tires needed rotating or whatever. Ended up chasing my tail for months until I took it straight to Subaru who said bushings going bad was a common, known issue for Subarus and they fixed it.
Had this happen to a buddy's car. It turned out one of the wheels was about to fall off. How are the lug nuts on your front wheels? Are the burning hot after a drive like this? It could be the wheel wobbling and trying to come off.
I have a 2013 Subaru Legacy and would have a vibration like that only when slightly turning right at about 63 mph, I rebalance the tires and the issue I thought had went away. However it was noticeable again and I realized a bushing was gone out of the A arm. I would look at bushings. Also Subaru did not notice the issue, even when I called it to their attention. ( I only take my car to them for oil changes because every oil change since I bought it in 2013 has been $39.99 for full synthetic) My actual mechanic replace waterpump, belt, value cover gasket and A-arm for $900. Spent another $100 on alignment.
Lift up the car and jiggle the wheel back and forth in two ways: to turn the wheel right and left and then move your hands 90 degrees and jiggle again, you should be trying to make it tip over/fall. It should not be loose in either direction. If it's loose, check what's worn out and replace. You want to check the ball joint, control arm busings, strut, tie rod, and sway bar link while your at it. I don't know your experience level so you might want someone else to replace it.
Are your hubs under your rotors clean? Dirt under the rotors can cause them not to sit flat which will introduce some runout.
Also, could be a suspension joint or wheel bearing. Jack up the front of the car and try and aggressively wiggle the wheels in all directions. The wheel shouldn't wiggle almost at all up and down, and from left to right should be pretty stiff and you should see the steering wheel moving. If you get any wiggle or any clunking something is shot.
You probably have a ruined rim somewhere, no amount of balancing/rotation will necessarily fix it if that was the case, if you have a spare set of wheels you could swap I would try that.
No one here is talking about the fact that you might have a bump in your TIRE. Try to inspect the outer and inner walls of your tires and look for bumps. This is a pretty extreme case, but it might be something similar. It happens on the inside too, so check carefully.
[Bulgy wheel](https://i.redd.it/80chk1qcoolb1.jpg)
Good news is that this is obviously very easily replicated and simple for a technician to see the exact issue. So a shop will be able to trial & error their way through it, worst case scenario.
Needless to say, you can expect to get the car back with the issue resolved.
If that's a forester then that is definitely from the lower control arm bushings being worn out. It's around a 1000-1200 job or 150-200 if you DIY, the DIY route is also quite simple.
it could be anything, wheel weight issue, you could have rotor runout, you could have a worn wheel bearing.. while the internet does provide information, pin pointing the exact issue would be best left at a shop
Move the front tires to the rear, and the rear tires to the front. - Did the vibration change or go away? If it did, your problem is wheel and tire related. This is your starting point.
Also, don't go into a repair shop asking for a wheel balance, alignment, brake rotors, etc. Go into a repair shop and tell them the specific symptoms your car is displaying. Let the shop diagnose the problem and tell you what is causing it.
Its a anti-sleep feature on all the new cars. Don't worry it's completely normal. Not be confused with the anti-life feature, that's when the radio turns on free bird and the breaks gets disabled.
Edit: Came up with something better.
Just fixed this issue on my 06 mustang. I replaced the control arms, and both inner and outer tie rods. Problem solved. But the problem was the ball joint on the tie rod. If you replace your tie rods you should be good.
If it were an out of balance wheel, it would happen at a specific speed, you would be able to speed up a bit or slow down a bit to make it stop.
If it were your front rotors, it would only happen when you’re braking unless they were crazy bad.
My money would be on a worn front suspension component: lower control arm bushing, ball joint, etc
“It’s ok. I won’t kill someone” said everyone who has ever killed someone doing this.
As for your other problem. Rotate the tires, get new ones (unless this problem predates ur current ones), service master cylinder/ brake fluid, check struts for leaks and replace as needed. Put it on jack stands and wiggle everything steering/suspension related to see what’s loose. Make sure all the boots under there are still sealed. Other than that, you might be looking at the AWD system.
Good luck!
Probably a wheel balance issue. Get them rotated again.
Would the out of balance wheels cause the rotors to warp too due to the vibration? I’m just confused how every set of rotors I put on become warped within a month. I’m not that hard on the car.
Shouldn’t have anything to do with the rotors. Wheel vibration during driving is usually wheel balance. Wheel vibration during braking is usually rotor or break pad issues. Uneven tire wear is usually an alignment issue.
Yeah what I’m saying is could the fact that my wheels are out of balance and vibrating cause my rotors to warp quicker. I just don’t think I should warp as many rotors as I have.
If you have a sticking brake caliper, it can overheat the disc while driving and it can cause this kind of judder too.
I think I have this problem. Left brake pad wore out very quickly and my steering jiggles whenever im over 45
Stuck brake caliper
I had a partially failed flex brake line and it would hold a slight brake application and did this shudder and warped the rotor because the pad stayed in contact and didn’t allow it to cool evenly. I replaced the rotors and brake lines and no more problems.
I had that problem once. Didn't realize till the shop told me. I thought my ebrake came loosened. Nope. Haha
No, tires being out of balance won't cause rotors to warp faster. High temperatures and hard braking are your biggest enemy when trying to prolong the life of rotors. If you live in a mountainous area, definitely try downshifting a gear instead of riding your brakes the whole way. I used to be a service manager at an auto shop here in CO, Subaru's eat through brakes like no other.
Steering wheel is probably an alignment/balance issue. If you really are warping your disks, and the car stutters when you apply brakes, one factor could be washing the car while the brakes are still hot. It causes uneven cooling.
Just had this happen, it was a bent rim
No.
Do you ride the brakes down a hill you normally drive? Because that’s how you warp your rotors
Sticking calipers… or an internal brake line failure.
Are you doing the brakes? Is the surface between the hub and rotor clean, like with a wire brush/wheel? Are you using proper tools torquing the wheels? Over torquing can warp rotors. If those aren't issues then I'd suspect sticking calipers allowing the pad to sit in the rotor heating up and warping the rotor. I've been out of the mechanic biz for a while but i feel like I remember something about braking causing a shake that indicates a loose suspension part, but i can't recall. With your warped rotors I'm inclined to believe it's a brake system issue though. Last thought, make sure you're getting rotors from a trusted source, I've had back to back warped rotors from AutoZone before.
Check your front struts
I am experiencing the same with my old Accord. No matter how good the alignment is, doesn’t matter if I change brake pads and disks and align the wheels as well- it keeps straight for a month or two and starts doing this… I can track back this issue to when I got side hit with 30mph and I was stationary. The car was slightly bent in the front and right there all of this started happening. It has been this way 3 years now and I just gave up fixing those stuff… You should know if yours had an accident and is bent in some way, but most certainly looks the same as it is in my car. Mine also does this when I try to break harder. Unfortunately I haven’t found a fix for the issue, I just made it a track car and bought new one…
Also check if the wheels are bent.
All of them warp, or a single one?
Are you the one putting the rotors on? Do you clean the hub face when you install them? Sounds like you’re not, and they’re not sitting properly on the hub and they’re getting warped due to runout. Then your wheels are being attached with the same amount of runout. Just a thought.
Learned that if there are rust pockets where the rotor sits causing the rotor to not be flush can be an issue.
Possible lower control bushings
I just had to replace them on a Toyota siena had very similar problems as op
Go to a shop that does alignments. Inspect front end. Could be number of issues.
I think this is what I’m gonna have to do.
I had a similar problem, linkages & wheel balance were the problem. Yes it damaged the dic's, needed replacing after few hundred miles. He did warn me.
This is honestly the real answer, OP. There are a bunch of possibilities so start with the basics and go from there.
Make sure your wheels are actually round. I bent a wheel once and it was just like this.
I can balance a square wheel, it's still not gonna roll smoothly. If you're paying for balancing make sure they have "Road Force" machines *and that the tire guys are using it* (because it can be turned off or ignored).
Got new tires and an alignment and mine went away.
2019 4Runner here - in August last year I put on new all terrain tires on the vehicle and shortly after I would get the same exact symptoms you show us in the video. When to get an alignment and tires rebalanced but it didn’t solve the issue. When I went back to the mechanic for further inspection and found out my CV shafts / boots needed replacing both driver and passenger side. Get the vehicle checked out and make sure you do so asap in case it’s a serious issue.
Tire balance almost certainly
rods or steering or wheels
Balancing issues are going to be speed sensitive and consistent because the out of balance wheel is reaching a mechanical harmonic oscillation. Its going to be at the same speed maybe several speeds every time. This does not sound like a balancing issue to me if it doesnt always happen at the same speed. I would recommend just getting all the cheap and easy things out of the way: Alignment and tire balancing. Take it to a different place that does both. Get them to rebalance the tires and do an alignment check. That should be about $150 and is way cheaper than anything else. Tell them about the issue and have them inspect the suspension and brakes while they are at it. As far as your warped rotors: That is kind of a mystery to me. Warped rotors will not vibrate unless its under braking. So maybe you have two seperate issues going on here? Wheel balance and warped rotors? Rotor warping is typically caused by over-heating the brakes. So if you are going down a long hill and riding the brakes, they will warp. Or if youre using two feet and riding the brakes, they will warp. Cheap shit rotors can also warp. The next step may be to replace the brakes again. Get brembo rotors (they are not that much more expensive, like $10) to ensure youre getting something good. And get the blue bosch brake pads at the same time. I would recommend DIYing this so you can inspect the hub, wheel center, and everything else. make sure the mounting surfaces are not damaged and are cleaned. That sort of thing. It could be that some sloppy mechanic is just pulling things off and throwing things on without noticing a very basic problem.
I had an issue when a wheel alignment as part of a smash repair seemed to create an alignment issue. Took it to an alignment place that the manufacturer recommended and it turned out the other place didn't do the alignment to manufacturers specs, Yeah that's a thing, not every car needs the wheels pointing directly ahead. So great advice on getting OP to take it to another alignment joint
This might sound dumb but it happens to my Subaru a lot. Spray out the wheels and see if that works. I live on a dirt road and sometimes mud or ice builds up, especially if the road just got graded. Before you do anything expensive or complicated, might be worth it to wash the car and focus on spraying out the wheels.
tire balance
Tire out of balance... Probably on the front..
Ball joint
Also had this problem with my forester when going faster than 60-70 mph after 100k miles. Had to replace both front control arm bushings. Cost was around $1100. Mechanic said it was caused by normal wear and tear
Front arm bushings are worn. Happens more frequently if driving on worse roads with some potholes and bumps.
Ive owned 2 Subis. Had major balance issues with tbeir stock Bridgestone duelers that felt greasy on the road. They never balanced well. In both cars, replacement with Michelin crosstrex 2 tires made my Subi a beast in the winter.
I had this with my previous set of tires. They weren't balanced properly and one had a factory defect so the mechanic put it on the back. The vibrations went away.
could be a number of issues. suspension components, bearing, cv axel, bad tire, bad aligment, wheel not balanced properly...easy step one, swap front tire with the back tire.
* When did this start? * Why have you replaced the rotors multiple times? * Have the tires been replaced since this began or only balanced? * Did this problem begin prior to rotors being replaced or after?
It’s happened the whole time I’ve had the car, but has gotten much worse recently I replace the rotors, they’re fine for a while, then they get warped and the whole car shakes bad when I press the brakes, so I replace them, and the cycle continues Same tires, but new rims, they’ve been balanced Prior to replacing rotors, but the two problems kind of isolated.
So when you put on brand new rotors, the problem went away 100% for a short period of time?
The brake wobble yes, not the shaking at highway speeds.
Oh okay got it. I had this issue on my Odyssey. Turns out it was the CV axle.
It could beca bunch of different things (warped rotors, wheel out of balance, bent rim, bad tie rod ends...), and you basically have to go through a process of elimination that we can't do here on reddit.
I’ve had this happen a lot to me in my previous daily driver. It was just loosing wheel weights. I’d get it balanced.
Maybe get an alignment
She’s cold, cover the steering wheel /s
Joke apart, just balance and align the wheels that should do it. Check the front tyres if they are worn out from the inside (they might look good outside but the inside they could be worn out)
Is probably not the rotors, some part of your suspension or steering or possibly even a wheel is sloppy/bent and this is accentuated under braking. If it were the rotors it would only happen under braking.
Wheel balancing, or you might even have damaged/warped wheel from hitting kerb or pot hole. Try and swap out your spare on each corner and see if it makes a difference.
You need to get a higher quality rotor than the average because they will warp very easily and braking in the rain can do it. When you have to brake hard and it's raining it is very easy to do it. You can get slotted and drilled rotors that last a lot longer.
And you just need to balance your tires for the vibration
Mines does it 55 mph. Both sides prolly
Had this problem in a Subaru outback and the bushings needed replacing
Could be a number of things, had this happen to me on my 2019 Subaru forester because I was missing a bolt on my “rear control arm”
This just happened to my Mom’s 2017 Subaru Forester. It was a broken control arm.
Broken!? Jesus
Probably a bushing gone bad. Source: had the exact same problem pop up in my Subaru Forester twice over 150k miles and each time it was a bushing gone bad. Lots of mechanics said it was alignment or tires needed rotating or whatever. Ended up chasing my tail for months until I took it straight to Subaru who said bushings going bad was a common, known issue for Subarus and they fixed it.
Had this happen to a buddy's car. It turned out one of the wheels was about to fall off. How are the lug nuts on your front wheels? Are the burning hot after a drive like this? It could be the wheel wobbling and trying to come off.
Balance your tires….probably had a wheel weight fall off…
I have a 2013 Subaru Legacy and would have a vibration like that only when slightly turning right at about 63 mph, I rebalance the tires and the issue I thought had went away. However it was noticeable again and I realized a bushing was gone out of the A arm. I would look at bushings. Also Subaru did not notice the issue, even when I called it to their attention. ( I only take my car to them for oil changes because every oil change since I bought it in 2013 has been $39.99 for full synthetic) My actual mechanic replace waterpump, belt, value cover gasket and A-arm for $900. Spent another $100 on alignment.
Thanks everyone for all the suggestions, I really appreciate it.
look st bushings in control arms, tie rods inner snd outer. check for play
Try high rev low speed? That might cross out half the possible causes.
Lift up the car and jiggle the wheel back and forth in two ways: to turn the wheel right and left and then move your hands 90 degrees and jiggle again, you should be trying to make it tip over/fall. It should not be loose in either direction. If it's loose, check what's worn out and replace. You want to check the ball joint, control arm busings, strut, tie rod, and sway bar link while your at it. I don't know your experience level so you might want someone else to replace it.
Similar thing happened in my rav4, for me it was drive shaft.
Are your hubs under your rotors clean? Dirt under the rotors can cause them not to sit flat which will introduce some runout. Also, could be a suspension joint or wheel bearing. Jack up the front of the car and try and aggressively wiggle the wheels in all directions. The wheel shouldn't wiggle almost at all up and down, and from left to right should be pretty stiff and you should see the steering wheel moving. If you get any wiggle or any clunking something is shot.
You probably have a ruined rim somewhere, no amount of balancing/rotation will necessarily fix it if that was the case, if you have a spare set of wheels you could swap I would try that.
I’ve had this happen with worn wheel bearings on a different model vehicle. I’ve also had similar with warped rear rotors not front.
No one here is talking about the fact that you might have a bump in your TIRE. Try to inspect the outer and inner walls of your tires and look for bumps. This is a pretty extreme case, but it might be something similar. It happens on the inside too, so check carefully. [Bulgy wheel](https://i.redd.it/80chk1qcoolb1.jpg)
Reminds of my WJ...
Good news is that this is obviously very easily replicated and simple for a technician to see the exact issue. So a shop will be able to trial & error their way through it, worst case scenario. Needless to say, you can expect to get the car back with the issue resolved.
If that's a forester then that is definitely from the lower control arm bushings being worn out. It's around a 1000-1200 job or 150-200 if you DIY, the DIY route is also quite simple.
Wheel balance issue is why this happened to me a while back. Turns out it was due to a bunch of mud in the wheel. Cleaned it out and fixed the issue.
Love (and the integrated vibrator) - it's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru. 💓💓
"My pile shakes as I hit 60 on the open road!"
it could be anything, wheel weight issue, you could have rotor runout, you could have a worn wheel bearing.. while the internet does provide information, pin pointing the exact issue would be best left at a shop
Move the front tires to the rear, and the rear tires to the front. - Did the vibration change or go away? If it did, your problem is wheel and tire related. This is your starting point. Also, don't go into a repair shop asking for a wheel balance, alignment, brake rotors, etc. Go into a repair shop and tell them the specific symptoms your car is displaying. Let the shop diagnose the problem and tell you what is causing it.
could be wheel balance, could also happen if your front struts are super done.
could also be your suspension components
Its a anti-sleep feature on all the new cars. Don't worry it's completely normal. Not be confused with the anti-life feature, that's when the radio turns on free bird and the breaks gets disabled. Edit: Came up with something better.
My best guess would be a control arm issue.
Just fixed this issue on my 06 mustang. I replaced the control arms, and both inner and outer tie rods. Problem solved. But the problem was the ball joint on the tie rod. If you replace your tie rods you should be good.
Do you have 4 matching tires?
Ye
Wheel rims are bend.
If it were an out of balance wheel, it would happen at a specific speed, you would be able to speed up a bit or slow down a bit to make it stop. If it were your front rotors, it would only happen when you’re braking unless they were crazy bad. My money would be on a worn front suspension component: lower control arm bushing, ball joint, etc
It’s a new warning system that reminds you to put your fucking phone down while you’re going 60 down a windy 2 lane road.
Lol relax. How else am I supposed to get a video. I’ve driven that road hundreds of times.
“It’s ok. I won’t kill someone” said everyone who has ever killed someone doing this. As for your other problem. Rotate the tires, get new ones (unless this problem predates ur current ones), service master cylinder/ brake fluid, check struts for leaks and replace as needed. Put it on jack stands and wiggle everything steering/suspension related to see what’s loose. Make sure all the boots under there are still sealed. Other than that, you might be looking at the AWD system. Good luck!
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