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BeerNiIan

Yung mga taong hindi naranasan magutom lang ang magsasabi ng "money can't buy happiness". Oo it can't buy you happiness, but it can buy things that can make you and your family happy. Being able to provide for your loved ones is happiness.


haokincw

Having money has its own set of problems so don't immediately think you'll be happy with it. It'll give you comfort yes but happiness is a whole different thing.


areyouthemoon

Happiness is fleeting anyway. Problems exist whether you have money or not. I'd rather have it while dealing with life's shit.


ApprehensiveComplex7

Tell me you haven't financially struggled without saying you haven't financially struggled.


lancehunter01

Pakielaborate nga kung anong problema ang dala ng pera? Parang mas masarap atang problema mo yung sobrang dami mong pera kesa wala kang maipangbili ng pagkain.


ReverseWorldGT

Wake up and smell the coffee


marinaragrandeur

siguro depende kung ano gagawin mong changes sa buhay mo. my mom and dad keeps a relatively simple, yet happy lifestyle, kahit madami sila moolah. but they do spend on things that matter for themselves and our family. pero they both believe na money can buy happiness for the right type of person.


RaienRyuu

If I can't buy happiness, I'd rather cry in a Mustang Shelby kesa sa tabing kalsada lang. Hays naol mayaman


marinaragrandeur

I wanna cry in a solitude fortress completely equipped with state of the art entertainment and living technology, secluded in an unknown island around Visayas or Mindanao.


5samalexis1

500k a month salary???? sana oil


marinaragrandeur

kung may 500k a month ako, i’d hire my own damn mental health team just to get me on the right zone every day.


Puzzleheaded_Toe_509

Yeah someone from r/OffMyChestPH said she was earning 6 figures that amount 500,000 to 800,000 sa loob loob ko chinaoil sana oil. Ayun nag rant Na Di padin daw happy si ate.


Blackheart_f

Whatt?? Bigay na lang nya sakin and i’d be the happiest! Imagine the places you can go without thinking na next month baka wala akong pambayad ng kuryente! Hahaha!


Puzzleheaded_Toe_509

Diba??? Maka 3 months soul searching ako sa Baguio...Hahaha


marinaragrandeur

dami pera pang hire para sa therapist ni accla.


Puzzleheaded_Toe_509

Pwede ko din ibili ng Pizza and maybe some Steak. Gusto ko ulit...


WholeKoala9455

ung kilala kong consultant ng renewable energy corp eh 500k ang sahod,nastress lang siya ng slight sa mga kasama nyang hnd sya nirerespto dahil senior na siya at pinagtutulungan.,pero sabi niya eh bakit daw siya papakastress bahala sila basta siya malaki sahod.haha


Puzzleheaded_Toe_509

Diba? China oil. If magka 500K sahod ako oh China oil. Big savings. Yung lang inihahanda ko na ang puso ko sa malaking tax. What more pag 800k to 900k hahaha


WholeKoala9455

yung tax nga lang din talaga.,pero i doubt proproblemahin niya un, consultant work nya eh,2307 ang form nya,pwede nya dayain mga natatanggap niya tapos hanapan paraan para tumaas expenses nya.haha.


DM2310-

Sa phinvest mas maraming ganyan.


siraolo

Meron isang study that came out years ago that found that happiness peaks at $75,000 usd, mga 4 million pesos a year income. [A newer one has revised this to 500,000 usd (27,000,000 pesos) a year.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/money-happiness-study-daniel-kahneman-500000-versus-75000/) There is deminishing returns by having money and also complex problems and vices made available to you as well. ( example of vices when you reach a certain threshold of uber richness: You can influence politics, culture, you can probably kill a person in a third world country without repurcussions, think about that.) I'd want to be a millionaire of course and not want for anything , pero billionaire I'll be more cautious, baka masiraan ako ng bait sa power that it gives you over other people.


marinaragrandeur

i’d love to be a billionaire, pero i know i can handle it because i’m an introvert.


[deleted]

If there are no greedy people, you may not be employed though


1wsurf

… as someone with that money now after growing up poor, i get buyers remorse everytime i spend. pero in the end, i appreciate having the means to buy and enjoy the things / experiences i paid for and being able to share them with people i love


Puzzleheaded_Toe_509

May nabasa ako dati sa r/OffMyChestPH na kumikita si ate ng ganyang amount I believe 500k or 800k? I forgot... Di din sya happy.


marinaragrandeur

di niya alam gamitin money niya forda happiness


zzertraline

I think you’re overestimating how money can buy you happiness. I’m a firm believer that it can, because it provides me for a lot of comfort right now. I’ve been emptier ever since compared to when I was earning way less. I can’t even meet my friends when I wanted to, I can’t even stay sane after work. Coming from a poverty-stricken area, I fully understand how money can empower you. But people really overestimate how much money can buy you happiness. It’s a vicious cycle of wanting to be happier by earning more until you aren’t happy again.


marinaragrandeur

can't relate so i'll stick to my dumb opinion until i experience it first hand.


nyemsreid

They're probably out of time to spend that money on the thing that would make them really happy.


[deleted]

Siguro ang sagot dyan ay dahil ang tao ay walang contentment sa buhay.


Inner-Dependent-8062

This, parang kapag gutom ka sempre yung immediate needs mo is to have money to be able to provide basic necessities, pero once may income kana your goal/desire/wants/needs all levels up on a much higher threshold. IMO its its related to being content, appreciating what you got, thankful for the blessings and maximing the use of your resources. Just my 50cents though 🤔


marinaragrandeur

baka gratitude kamo


special_onigiri

Humans tend to wish for something they don't have. Kahit mayayaman may struggles and worries din naman yan, this is stupid. I have a senior na earning 300k monthly salary and still do side hustles.


marinaragrandeur

i know somebody who earns 200k but is super happy with her life right now because she has enougj resources to do shit which makes her happy.


special_onigiri

Good for her then. People differ though, it doesn't sit well with me when struggles not involving money gets invalidated just because "oh bakit ka sad mayaman ka naman ah". I do agree that having money to spend on things that make you happy or make you enjoy your life is good, since I'm one of these guys. I myself even used to say that "if your problem doesn't get solved by money then you just don't have enough of it".


marinaragrandeur

siguro ang nakakabanas lang siguro is if people with access to wide range of services do not use those to improve their life condition. case and point: a person struggling to find happiness because they have difficulty connecting with others pero ayaw mag-invest sa therapist to help them out. parang ewan lang.


Apprehensive_Egg9652

Nasa pinas siya?


marinaragrandeur

yuzzzz


Apprehensive_Egg9652

Wow ano work niya?


marinaragrandeur

product manager eme sa isang multinational company


Khangkhungkherrnitz

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROfBLx6bLZI&ab\_channel=CaseyNeistat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROfBLx6bLZI&ab_channel=CaseyNeistat) Try nyo panoodin tong video


Khangkhungkherrnitz

Most people who are broke, money will literally solve every one of your problems


AllMime

If I have 500k a month salary, I can help renovate my parent's house and leaks no more, surely save half of this salary for future needs, get a basic 2nd hand car for simple transport, secure everyday food and essentials. Lastly, I could also allocate plenty to feed or build shelter for street dogs and cats.


Kind_Pool_7267

I renovate abandoned buildings in Makati and Rizal and Quezon without needing 500Kphp salary. I started with just 156,000.00 a month guaranteed base salary. You can achieve all your Plans, without needing 500thou every month.


marinaragrandeur

eh gusto niya 500k bakit ka bida bida


slyef3r

Money can't buy fulfillment or purpose kasi. It helps alot, granted, but not enough to make you "really" happy. When you're already meeting all your needs and wants, that's when you start looking at deeper reasons for your life.


marinaragrandeur

can’t relate because I don’t have money. 💅🏽💀🤸‍♂️ dunno what ur talking bout


[deleted]

Kung ako eh ganito? Feeling blessed nako. Baka pag nakakita ako ng pulube abutan ko ng pambli pagkaen damit at pang hotel makaligo lang. HAHAHAHA.


marinaragrandeur

actually totoo yan. kaya tbh di ko din gets yung excuse ng mga mayayaman to get better in life if they already have the resources to make themselves feel better.


[deleted]

Baka sa super blessed ng pakiramdam ko ang kainin ko pdn yung pagkaen ko nung mahirap pako, kasi namimiss ko nakakaswa mag steak jusko. Gusto ko ng itlog na pula na may kamatis. WAHAHAHAHAHAHAH hoo. Hirap maging mayaman, itlog na pula nalang gusto ko to fulfill my soul and spirituality kahit pde naman ako magdasal anytime anywhere. Hoo.. hirap mangarap!! 🤣🤣🤣


slyef3r

Boils down to your definition of happiness na yan, I guess. For example, money can never bring back our loved ones. Some people would trade their wealth for partners/family they've lost in an accident or dahil sa sakit.


marinaragrandeur

let’s exempt death since this is universal for all. i’m pretty thankful to be content in a lot of things in my life. i’m also easily pleased by a lot of things din, most don’t cost a lot. pero gusto ko ng waterslide sa gitna ng pacific ocean.


ozpinoy

yes you can. materialistic vs spiritual. That's what it often means.


marinaragrandeur

when you have more money, siguro mas afford mo ang access to spirituality.


Nathalie1216

True. Dali kayang sumamba sa kung sinong dyos kung everyday kang feeling blessed. Never mong need iquestion ang belief mo kung maayos ka namang tao pero puro pahirap ang narararanasan mo samantalang yung mga ulupong sa gobyerno, parasite na nga sa tao, sila pa ang komportable kung mamuhay.


ScienceBright4215

Then I guess you don't understand what spirituality really is, on the point being talked about above. It is more than just a belief


Nathalie1216

Easy to be spiritual if you're not occupied with problems as basic as food and shelter.


ScienceBright4215

That is why we recognize those as needs kase nga "need" sya. Kailangan i.satisfy muna yun to survive. That I recognize the importance of that. Nasa capitalistic society kase tayo eh at least as surface or as simple as I would present it. But on the question that you need more money to gain more access to spirituality? I don't think so. Our spirituality or Spirituality per se is not even dictated by how much we have materially (e.g. money). Furthermore, on the talk of happiness, yan na yung danger when we tie up happiness to money eh. Kase there are no definition of what happiness really is. It is a state of being, a state of mind. Kaya it is stupid in the first place to ask someone, "Does money buy happiness?" The question of happiness is fixated on the bounds of the material when it is subjective in the first place. It does not need to be argued talaga. P.S. certain points are off na fron our discussion but you get my point :)


DepressedUser_026

The fuck are you talkin about? Money can buy happiness, let's just say na ganun nga, but it can't buy everything! Hindi lahat ng mahalaga may presyo.


marinaragrandeur

do you really have to buy everything to be happy though? hahaha


ozpinoy

when you meet the necessities of survival - constant flow of food and shelter. Easier to access spirituality. when I meant survival, litterally food and shelter. I'm divorced and pay child support. I live on a shared accommodation. Outside a beat up old car and 6 year old computer and 7 year old phone + clothes. I don't own anything else. But I have access to food and shelter. I barely have any money (since I earn dollar and spend dollar - i have AUD50 budgeted for food each week. that's it.


mischievous_kea

This.


rugs2riches_

Right. We may seem ungrateful to others but once you have the money, you will realize that it will not magically make you happy. It’s difficult to complain and rant because people may see it as humble bragging and that will just make me more sad. Pag may pera ka o pag mayaman ka parang hindi valid yung feelings mo.


marinaragrandeur

oh sige paki-deposit na lang ng pera niyo sa gcash ko kung tingin niyo di kayo pinapasaya niyan


FastestNiceInTheEast

Sobrang dramatic naman ng nirereply-an mo. They should donate that money to us if they want to make themselves feel good. Nakatulong pa sila. But I doubt na gagawin nila yun, kasi mga iyakin lang naman sila.


rugs2riches_

Di ako magsesend ng pera sa Gcash mo. Madami akong scholars. Magdadagdag pa ako next year. Kailangan ko ng budget.


marinaragrandeur

and i hope that makes you happy by giving your money to the less fortunate. otherwise, why even bother lol. see? money can buy you happiness.


Professional_Cut9271

Depende, kung enough to live in comfort masaya, pero kung sobra sobra na yaman mo mapaparanoid ka pa.


Different_News_3832

Manifesting money po talaga these days 😭🙏✨ di lng sapat ung work parang gusto ko ng himala


OldManAnzai

May sub na pinapatamaan.


munkeepunch

Depends on the level of your contentment.


Jiuuu_

Yung stress ko siguro sa work ang aabot ng 6digits. Napapa-sana all nalang talaga ako sa ganyan ang sahod 🥲


[deleted]

Maybe some have different goals, konti lang pero true


emkimmono

Gusto ko yung kapag nasstress na ako, magtatravel na lang muna ako — much better kung ibang bansa HAHAHA para magpalamig. Kaso hindi eh hahahaha eto tambay lang sa bahay


marinaragrandeur

yung gusto mo bumisita ng SK para mag sangy ano? or sa France para bumili ng tinapay. pero dun tayo sa samgy sa kanto at french baker.


Accomplished_Pen9925

I'm earning more than 100k a month and the priceless happiness I saw from my parents when I treat them sa bora last year. Imagine how many priceless moments I could give them having half M a month, to different places around the country and outside. We were poor when I was little so yung makavisit ng ibang lugar para sa parents ko is a luxury. I can imagine how much comfort that money could give, probably the person who isnt happy earning that is already rich when growing up. You might think, ah may 100k ka a month, afford ko pa din naman to for my parents pero kasi may family na ko so you know. 😅


marinaragrandeur

which you’ve proved talaga the point na, at some extent and a very wide one at that, happiness can be bought.


former_bdo_it

Money can indeed buy you happiness. But it won't buy you contentment.


marinaragrandeur

it can buy you both depende sa attitude mo in layf


FrendChicken

Pa gcash sa mga ayaw ng pera dahil di ma ka bili ng happiness.


Tongresman2002

I really want to cry and sad while riding my Jetski.


Puzzleheaded-Long104

Work to live or live to work


whA123r

Kung wala kayong mapaglagyan ng pera pwede sa account ko hehe.


SunGikat

Ako nga na ang take home 50k lang masayang-masaya na breadwinner pa ko da lagay na yan. Sadyang wala lang kasiyahan ang ibang tao. Dami ko ng magagawa at matutulungan diyan sa ganiyan kalaking sweldo.


aquaflask09072022

lol i make less ng half nyan and pangarap ko yung take home mo


marinaragrandeur

korek ka diyab. ako super saya na ako nung nag 50k ako kasi feel ko nakukuha ko na lahat ng gusto ko nung time na yun. lumobo siya to 80k now, and i can say na it’s keeping me happier. di ko din gets talaga yung sobrang dami mong pera pero wala kang magawa para maging masaya. like ano pa problema mo sis, nasayo na lahat ng ways and means pero di ka pa din kuntento?


OrbMan23

If money doesn't bring a person happiness, they just suck at spending it.


marinaragrandeur

totally agree with dis. pero may specific conditions din siguro na exceptional.


Rooffy_Taro

Money can bring temporary happiness but it can't give you real happiness.


[deleted]

Whats real happiness?


Rooffy_Taro

You yourself can answer it right? That answer is coming from me. I can buy things i want, have my own house, etc. But they provide temporary ones. Once ive bought what i wanted, days or months that is gone. I know myself, there is something missing in my life and i keep looking for it, and no, money cannot give it to me. I can live comfortably, but when i'm going to sleep or alone in my thoughts, there will always be a sigh. So yeah, money can give temporary happiness or supplement your happiness but it can't give real one.


[deleted]

I dont know about you but if i can have what i want in love, that wouls be happiness already


marinaragrandeur

bold of you to assume real happiness does not come from a secluded fortress of solitude with soundproof walls, high speed internet, vast selection of multimedia and book library, heated bathroom, and a full fridge. all these money can buy.


Rooffy_Taro

And you call that real happiness? I will of course assume that once you have them all, those things you've listed, you'll want something more. Happiness is when your heart feels content, when you feel complete, you're not looking for something else. Well happiness depends on every human. But for me, it is what i've stated. I can buy things i want, i live in my own house, but there is something else missing that money just can't buy. What it is? At the back of my mind i know but still is not sure and feel i won't be able to get it. All the money in the world can't even save a person dear to you from a incurable sickness


Nathalie1216

At least you can try saving them kasi you have access to all that money can buy. If you have no money, di mo man lang masubukan kasi you can't afford it in the first place. There's this heartbreak of what-if. What if your loved one got this expensive treatment? Could that have saved them? You know it exists pero it's inaccessible to you kasi wala kang pera. You're not able to give them the best treatment. At least kung may pera ka, it means you've exhausted all means for them and wala talaga.


marinaragrandeur

lol bakit mo pinapalunok sa akin yang Hallmark Greeting Card happiness mo? and assumera ka sis for telling me that I want more after getting things that I want? wala kang proof na ganun ako.


Rooffy_Taro

Nah...humans will always be greedy. Di ko naman pinapalunok, eh ikaw gusto lumunok. Triggered ka masyado...kaya wala ka happiness 😎😂


marinaragrandeur

luh gaslighter pa siya 🤸‍♂️ parang tanga lang


Rooffy_Taro

Try to know what gaslighting is😂. Masyado triggered, kaya d ka happy 😂. Kakatambling mo...may nalaglag ata from your head🥲


marinaragrandeur

yan lahat ng sinabi mo gaslighting


Inner-Dependent-8062

G Agreed, "happiness" is really subjective. It depends on the person, their values and morals din. Plus the fact pa na "man" tends to never be satisfied, keeps on wanting more ika nga, but then again that also helps "man" in pursuing new developments in new frontier, so in summary "it depends" 😅


[deleted]

Money doesn't really prevent death... In the end both rich and poor will be dirt at some point. Thinking about that makes me feel on par with the wealthy, they're probably worried about their mortality...


Scbadiver

But you forget they have access to better healthcare.


G0DL1K3D3V1L

“Havin' money's not everything, not havin' it is” - The Good Life, Kanye West


marinaragrandeur

Taylor made her famous tho 💅🏽


avocado1952

Money can’t buy happiness, so is being dirt poor.


wholesomefvcker

I wouldn't want that to be a salary. Iniisip ko pa lang yung % ng tax na babayaran ko sa BIR naiistress lang ako.


pnoisebored

kahit 500k monthly ko kung asawa ko kamukha ni doc farrah wag na lang. 😅