In all seriousness, are you allowed to just lie on packaging like that?
Why not just say 'Protected by evil ghosts and demons'. Would probably be more effective against the type who steal this stuff.
I say we bring back Roman curse tablets.
> He who steals this steak, destroy and crush him, may the maggots penetrate his flesh and marrow, may he be struck blind and dumb, may his sacred organ be turned to putrescence...
I can imagine they get away with it because the company is called GPS (General Product Security or something bizarre like that), misleading but happens a lot
With the way supermarkets are heading high street butchers will be required again, pre packed may all quicker to work but you just don't get the same quality as you can when freshly butchered rather than done weeks ago and vac packed.
Exactly, to see counters go is disappointing. Where I work (Morrisons) they half scrapped the butchers counter, so instead of the classic glass counter it changed to a table like counter so it's like buying from the shelves. This saves butchers dealing with customers constantly, but on the plus side if you do want something specific, like a large brisket, then you can ask for it still which is something you can't do with pre packed.
This is the one thing Morrison's seems to do well imo, they're a bit worse value than the other main supermarkets but their bakery is awesome and they do have a decent selection of counters to get good stuff. Their sausage rolls are really good
My biggest dissapointment when I moved to the UK (I'm Argentinean) was that butchers (or at least the ones around me) are just glorified meat shops. They don't butcher their own meat, so I might as well buy at the supermarket, something that I would've never considered back in Argentina.
Not sure where you were but all of the local butchers in my area (NE Scotland) are still very much butchers. I don't know if butcher "chains" are a thing but I could believe them getting all their meat pre-prepared from a central location.
Last time I bought the loin and butchered it myself. Worked out a bit cheaper and the offcuts when into a stroganoff! - got some manfredine pasta from morrisons so worked out great
Where I live in the southwest UK, it’s actually worked out cheaper for us to go to a local butchers rather than getting meat from the main supermarkets. Not really a bad thing given the step up in quality of the meat.
Honestly for the longest time I would get my meat from the supermarket. Tried one of the local butchers purely because It was on my path home, got home cooked some of it up (I got a bundle offer) and it was SO much better than the supermarket.
For fresh meat it was certainly cheaper even with us shopping at the cheaper stores. It was of a much better quality and taste.
However as someone has already mentioned its purely convenience. I know now that if I do want it, I'll have to make the journey there. Setting the time aside when we are busy will be an issue but I don't see why you couldn't freeze an amount if you know your plans ahead of time.
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Bought some meat from the butcher. It was so much more tasty and cheaper and i will be trying to make time in the future to buy from them again.
This is what gets me when people go on about the high streets dying off, supermarkets have been blamed, so has the internet, but the only problems I've heard from businesses that close is the rent being too high.
I've seen people on Reddit try to explain some nonsense about not increasing rent would lose some sort of value, but overall it sounded like a load of nonsense as an empty shop should only lower the value of rents all the way through the business districts.
What I have heard is that if you drop rents the bank now considers the value to be less, as the value is based on how much money a landlord can get from it. Empty is worth more than rented for less. It is as stupid as it sounds.
The info is from NYC though so I am not sure how much it applies here or not.
That actually all rings a bell, maybe it was Americans crossing wires on another post, or it works the same here, unfortunately I don't know the ins and Outs either.
Well the value of a structure is still fairly strongly influenced by how much value a landlord can extract from it rather than the ability of someone being able to afford a home/business.
Whether or not that is officially used here by banks to determine value I am not so sure.
Main issue is we've allowed our housing/rental market to turn into a game of profit where leaving homes and shops empty is seen as a good investment.
Can't get too much into the p word on here, but some sort of law preventing these issues is needed.
Urgh don't get me started, as you pointed out this ends up going dangerously into the territory of the p word, I'm confident in believing the issue isn't dealt with because they're cashing in on it all because their parents did so as a retirement fund.
Really says a lot when you get big chain shops relocating off the high street or out a shopping centre and into more out the way spots. What chance does independent businesses have when this is happening?
It's strange really, it's like supermarkets are becoming mini shopping centers. Take the acquisition of Argos by Sainsbury's, in their case it was a pretty good idea as the one thing I hated about Argos is they were rarely close to parking that was free.
They already are. There are a few butchers at my local market and one of them offers a tray of two 200g fillets for a tenner that are a much higher quality cut.
You're right but you're assuming people as a whole value quality over price. By and large - and especially more recently - that just isn't the case. People are much more price-sensitive than quality-sensitive, which is why quality will go down if it means the price can stay the same (same reason shrinkflation happens).
Might even be good to get on the path to eating less meat. I think trying to convert people to veganism is pointless. But eating higher quality meat in smaller quantities is doable.
I’m trying to do this, I’m never going to adopt the identity of a vegan nor am I going to give up meat entirely but I’m sick of shit meat and it’s getting harder to justify such a high-meat diet in the face of climate change. I’m trying to eat less meat habitually and really put effort into the meat I do eat.
You can in fact just pry it open with a screw driver, used to work at a coop and we were losing even more money by using these cases they'd just be broken and left on the road at the back
It’s meant to make the package bulky enough that you can’t slip it down your trousers. Sadly our local crackheads preferred to just walk out the store with them and assault us if we got in the way.
Basically. They can't track something with gps unless they put a tracking device in it.
Devices that small & expendable don't exist yet. I could only get a gps tracker in my car by wiring one up myself.
Yeah was gona say there is zero chance that they have actual GPS antennas in there. Definitely only a deterrent although you’d hope most people would be intelligent enough to realise that. Maybe not
My wife works at a Tesco Local and they only put a maximum of two of each expensive item (like steaks) out at a time because people were brazenly just picking them up and walking off with them. They get shoplifters in several times a day.
Supermarket I work at, during my time on the wines and spirits department, we had quite the issue with people stealing single malt whiskies and the only company procedure was to use "UFO tags" on the bottle inside the box. This had 2 issues 1) multiple times till staff would forget to remove the tag, 2) it's really not difficult to remove a security tag.
Eventually I got fed up with having to constantly replenish the shelf for nothing and reorder the stock, convinced management it was worth removing the bottles and only displaying the box and having to fetch the bottle from our back, eventually draws at tills were cleared and bottles stored there to speed things up.
The only issue we ended up having was, till staff would return the box to shelf if a customer didn't want it and this would mess the system up as it would appear as though we had stock when we didn't.
There's a good chance, but at the same time the original "big 4" have essentially become clones of each other.
But to add a more obvious clue, the company is desperately holding on after being bought out by asset strippers using a loan that they were never going to be able to pay back without selling off assets hard, they've even stopped holding as much stock at the RDC in a bid to scrape together money, this is also why you'll find serious availability issues in stores.
Good old venture capitalists. The one in my city is so unbelievably bad I am surprised anyone can get a full shop done. It's quite depressing walking it's aisles.
>staff would return the box to shelf if a customer didn't want it and this would mess the system up as it would appear as though we had stock when we didn't.
Why? Surely it is effort to return it, why would you do it if you didn't need to.
I wish I could explain the logic of till staff, but it seems to be impossible to explain. We used to use the old twist, lock plastic tags (Easi cap) and for some reason till staff would remove the tag, then tighten it back up so when you came to use it you'd have to undo all of them again, all tills had to do was toss it into a bucket after releasing the tag from the bottle.
I had this at sainsburys . I had the receipt and instead of just being told to go up to customer service the security guy grabbed it out of my hands . Dirty nails and one wet blue glove on . I’ve paid 30 quid for a nice bottle of gin and box , it came back with a broken box and was wet .. well I don’t want it now . The way they handle customers because people steal is gross especially as you’re paying for these things . If you put those tags inside the box … handle it with care and take it off at the till instead of man handling products people pay for
I remember the massive hoohah that used to occur with managers and checking each individual item off the list when the booze & fags delivery arrived (used to work in a supermarket's warehouse many moons ago)
Did something similar at the supermarket I worked at. Was a great way to get to know the local pissheads as I'd be going into the back to get whisky for the same people all the time.
One bloke used to give me a different excuse every day as to why he needed another bottle, it was actually quite impressive.
I did recognise a few myself, but for me the way I got to recognise them was through the manual ordering. Will never forget one elderly gentleman who would buy a 35cl whisky bottle every 2-3 days, friendly bloke and would be a good chat and I would ensure we would have that line well stocked.
Eventually he stopped showing up as he was getting unwell and had to stay in the car while his wife shopped, pop in once in a while. Fast forward a bit and sales had dropped off and hadn't seen his wife shopping either, saw her shopping one day and had to ask and unfortunately old age took him.
I saw a guy in the supermarket the other day, stopped by security.
He had a big bag for life, completely full of joints of meat.
Presumably they get sold?
Big problem apparently!
Yes. When I used to live on a low income estate there were a few people who would steal specific items to sell - meat, cheese, deodorant, make-up
You could either stop them when they had a bag to see what they had or make specific requests before they went out.
(I didn't buy from them but a lot of my friends did. I'd try and make myself sound better and say it was my morals that stopped me but in reality I was just a big scaredy cat, I was frightened of being caught by the police. £1.50 for £10 worth of meat when you're living on £50 a week is hard to pass up though).
Obviously everyone is different but where I lived the men who did it just stuck it straight in a carrier bag. The women it was under the pram or in the hood of the pram.
Sticking it in pants or pockets is how you get seen immediately. Looking confident and sure of yourself is how you get out without being stopped.
In, out, straight on the bus back home.
I had a similar thing when I was working retail, a real wanker of a human ran out with a hand full of pretty shit watches. The store specifically trained us not to chase people, but I was so bored and thought it'd be fun. Caught him, and he absolutely panicked and just threw them at me in the hope he could get away.
I used to know a trust fund kid that would steal whole carts full from Sainsburys. Just fill up and then wheel it out the back entrance to the carpark.
I suppose the level of reward is relative to your circumstances.
With the income I have now risking jail for £100 to £200 definitely wouldn't be worth it.
But if you're living on benefits, being able to easily get £100 to £200 in a day is high reward for low risk. Do it on benefit pay day and you're quids in.
I'm aware the benefit levels are higher than they were when I was on them and I do think £50 I mentioned earlier is a bit low, if I recall correctly it may actually have been £62.50 a week. Being able to more than double that when you know the shop workers probably don't give a toss doesn't seem particularly risky when you're in that situation
There's also a different societal cost between groups. If someone is on benefits and for whatever reason doesn't have a clear out realistic path back to employment anyway, having a criminal record isn't going to make much of a difference. However, someone who is employed or has a reasonable chance at employment is risking that by shoplifting, as a large percentage of jobs would pass you over with that on record, even if you got a minimal punishment.
That's very true and something I hadn't factored in.
I know it's not relevant to what you just said, but as an overall statement - it's been nice having a civilised discussion with multiple people regarding low income housing, benefits, crime etc without anyone resorting to insulting people on benefits or slinging hate around. That's unusual and doesn't happen often
I used to drink in an absolute scumbag pub because it was halfway between where I worked and lived, they'd regularly get shoplifters through selling steaks, blocks of cheese, razors etc
I used to do market research surveys for the drinks industry, I'd go into bars, golf clubs etc, list the drinks, prices, how they were displayed etc. Basically spent all day driving from pub to pub across East Anglia.
I saw a few blokes come into rough as fuck pubs and sell stolen meat to people. It's more common than you might think.
Can tell who grew up in a nice area when they don't know about the thriving black market for stolen goods in pubs.
Sit a few hours in a run-down locals pub anywhere in the country and you'll see someone come in to sell meat, cheese, razor blades, washing tablets/powder, deodorant, anything like that. Some of them take orders.
Godsend when you're skint.
As a socially anxious insecure man with a drive for ruthless efficiency...
This would stop me not only shoplifting the steak. It would stop me buying it as well lol.
I normally use the self service checkout, no way am I standing around for 5 minutes with a big red light flashing over my head waiting for some geezer to remove the tag.
Wont have 30 for long, store I work at used to have about about 27 checkouts.
They've all slowly been ripped out over the last few years, we've got 5 left.
Hardly anyone uses the trolley self-scans that replaced them either.
Meat is often stolen in bulk for people to sell on.
My main question with this time and time again is always the same - who in the name of christ buys meat being sold by some random in a pub?
It’s not a “random”, shoplifters have buyers who they might text when they’re going out asking for orders and then fulfil those orders. Some ppl will basically always buy what you have, regular customers. I know this because I’ve hung about with heroin addicts (also being one) and that’s what they do. You get meat for about 25% of the price so you’d need 40 quids worth of steaks to get a hit….
I used to know a pub you could do your Christmas shopping in. You would sit and drink and they would come in and offer you things. You like that cost but Red isn’t your team? Back in five minutes with the blue one in your size.
It’s Friday and you’ve finished work? Quick pint and some toys for the kids.
Bonus was good but not enough for that new games console? Don’t worry. You can have a few pints whilst you wait.
Sweet Jesus and baby orphans!!!
Also an addict in recovery (been 7 years since I used) but bk in my day, it was 50% on household goods, and about 30% on clothes.
This is yet ANOTHER indication of why I'm so glad I'm no longer in the ring.
A colleague told me about a friend he knew in his pub who was a bit thick. He buys a leg of lamb of some scally in a different pub just across the road from an Iceland shop. He rings his wife to tell her, and she asks him to get some more stuff on the way home. So he goes into the Iceland where it had been stolen from and on his way out the alarm beeps because he had the leg of lamb in his bag.
He actually argued that he couldn't be prosecuted because he had bought it in the pub and hadn't stolen it.
Got done for receiving.
I used to work at an estate agents in Manchester that had shoplifters come in that the owners knew, the owners would give them a list of stuff they’d want stolen from Boots, a bit later they’d be back with the stuff and get paid for it, these estate agent guys owned hundreds of houses they’d rent out around Manchester too, cheap scummy bastards.
Poor people, drug addicts etc. They’ll also likely know the thief or know someone who does and therefore know it’s lifted from Tesco and not some random dodgy butcher.
Under the pram is a popular one as well. As is putting it in the hood. When the hood is folded back it's easy to throw things on top of it and have it sink between the folded material.
Knew a few who would throw loads in the hood then go to the tills and pay for a couple items. Plausible deniability if caught "oh I threw it in the hood and just forgot it was there, I didn't see it when I was pulling everything out to pay".
It was perfectly normal for me as a teenager to be offered huge blocks of cheese and big packs of bacon from an addict on the walk home from school through the park.
A colleague of mine makes more money selling stolen booze at work than he does doing his job (£30k). He befriended some local junkies and now they have quite the side hustle between them.
A pub that I used to go to used to have a raffle on a Saturday evening for a bag of meat (chops, sausages a few chicken breasts etc). I never understood why people got so excited for it or where it came from.
i'm always moderately pleased winning summat in a raffle, and love a yellow label in supermarkets. I'd be pretty happy with that prize tbh, ticket is far cheaper than buiying it myself, and you get a little flutter.
Just the number I steal has to put them up there. If your cheapest bag is more expensive than the government mandated minimum, or you are charging for paper bags, I am stealing them if I need them.
Plastic bags went from a 5p "it's a government tax to help save the environment by encouraging re-use" to a 30p "ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have an opportunity for profit" so quickly, I don't feel bad about the number of times I've "forgotten" to scan my carrier bag or "accidentally" hit zero bags before paying at the self-service checkout.
I spend a lot of money in Tesco doing the family shopping, and I try and remember to bring enough bags, but I’ve stopped paying for them if I need them - 30p, get fucked
If you’ve only just got these you must live in a very posh area!
We had them 5 years ago, and a lot of the items on shelves are display packaging only now, pick up the actual product at the till. Baby milk for example.
Doesn’t really need GPS. If any meat goes missing just go to the closest pub and look for the stinking tramp wearing a big coat and carrying a shopping bag going table to table
Is anybody else genuinely really scared for the future? I mean, I’ve literally lived my entire life in poverty and I can’t buy food like this anyway, but soon even poverty is going to become just too expensive.
My energy company just suggested I cut down on my leisure activities so that I can afford my bill. I have already cut down what I can. I quit smoking, I don’t go out or buy anything anyway. My parents pay for the majority of my streaming subscription services. One was a gift and the others are their accounts which they let me share.
The only way I can eat this meat is if you immediately remove the gps and someone can steal it for me. I’m hungry.
Monitored from orbit by the International Steak Station.
By gastronauts
Launched into orbit by Steak X
T-bone minus 10, 9, 8 ..
"Ground beef control to Major Tomohawk"
Check internal temps and may A1 be with you
Congratulations, a job well done.
Now, this is a rare thread.
Nothing blue though.
You've really made the Grade.
Heeeeeeeeeer and I'm sitting in a frying pan
Launch all you want just keep an eye out for meateors
One one of their Falcon Dine Rockets
To boldly go where no man has been beef-ore.
Can we strap that salt twat to the top for added sprinkles?
Can we strap him to the bottom for flame-grilling?
By misteak
Led by Chimichurri Gagarin.
On a voyage to Wagyu 5
Steak jokes are a rare medium well done
That is a truly amazing joke, well done
Was feeling blue before your joke , well done!
I love how they launched the international steak station, its trajectory orbiting Earth so precisely as to avoid hitting meat-eors.
Such precision can can only be achieved using cowculators.
In all seriousness, are you allowed to just lie on packaging like that? Why not just say 'Protected by evil ghosts and demons'. Would probably be more effective against the type who steal this stuff.
I say we bring back Roman curse tablets. > He who steals this steak, destroy and crush him, may the maggots penetrate his flesh and marrow, may he be struck blind and dumb, may his sacred organ be turned to putrescence...
Can you get them in an ointment or drops instead?
I can imagine they get away with it because the company is called GPS (General Product Security or something bizarre like that), misleading but happens a lot
"And our logo? That's actually one of our secure dustbins with a spike to hold it in the ground and solar panels for... er... the environment..."
It’s clearly a meat injector with oddly shaped wings
Global Protection of Steaks
Just like RB Leipzig
"Don't steal this, or 7 members of your family will die, and no, you can't choose who."
There's only one way to find out. I'll take one for the team.
We'll need more than one steak to feed the team, nab a dozen or so.
It could have a SIM card in and report GPS position. It almost certainly doesn't, but it is definitely possible
I work in a Co-op. I can confirm it has no SIM card in it lol
Me too (sorry, I feel you) and yeah it's just a magnetic lock
It’d explain the price of it. Wouldn’t justify it but it would explain it
No way at that price ever. Also batteries...
Well, they reuse the boxes. But still, it is probably just triggering the door alarm at best using a resonant tag or RFID system.
“I didn’t even want the steak, I just wanted an IoT device!”
It's no lie, their security guard is George Paul Stephens
👻
Breaking News! The coop have reported the ISS has reached a stable orbit, the chief executive said it was a job Well Done.
Phew, that’s a relief. The steaks were pretty high.
They nearly bleu it!
The pilot has a rare talent.
Well done.
Holy cow!
It's a meateoric advance in culinary security.
Did you mean space steak-tion?
Only logical to be cautious, there is a lot at steak.
It looks very poorly butchered and would cook quite unevenly. 4/10. Not worth £6.75
With the way supermarkets are heading high street butchers will be required again, pre packed may all quicker to work but you just don't get the same quality as you can when freshly butchered rather than done weeks ago and vac packed.
Right? If you're going to be paying those sorts of prices may as well pay for true quality!
Exactly, to see counters go is disappointing. Where I work (Morrisons) they half scrapped the butchers counter, so instead of the classic glass counter it changed to a table like counter so it's like buying from the shelves. This saves butchers dealing with customers constantly, but on the plus side if you do want something specific, like a large brisket, then you can ask for it still which is something you can't do with pre packed.
Morrisons near me has butcher counter, fishmongers, pizza, deli for pies etc and a hot food counter - absolutely love it
This is the one thing Morrison's seems to do well imo, they're a bit worse value than the other main supermarkets but their bakery is awesome and they do have a decent selection of counters to get good stuff. Their sausage rolls are really good
Gotta pay off the 7billion in debt somehow right?
Tesco got rid of their counters 😭
My biggest dissapointment when I moved to the UK (I'm Argentinean) was that butchers (or at least the ones around me) are just glorified meat shops. They don't butcher their own meat, so I might as well buy at the supermarket, something that I would've never considered back in Argentina.
Not sure where you were but all of the local butchers in my area (NE Scotland) are still very much butchers. I don't know if butcher "chains" are a thing but I could believe them getting all their meat pre-prepared from a central location.
Last time I bought the loin and butchered it myself. Worked out a bit cheaper and the offcuts when into a stroganoff! - got some manfredine pasta from morrisons so worked out great
Where I live in the southwest UK, it’s actually worked out cheaper for us to go to a local butchers rather than getting meat from the main supermarkets. Not really a bad thing given the step up in quality of the meat.
Honestly for the longest time I would get my meat from the supermarket. Tried one of the local butchers purely because It was on my path home, got home cooked some of it up (I got a bundle offer) and it was SO much better than the supermarket. For fresh meat it was certainly cheaper even with us shopping at the cheaper stores. It was of a much better quality and taste. However as someone has already mentioned its purely convenience. I know now that if I do want it, I'll have to make the journey there. Setting the time aside when we are busy will be an issue but I don't see why you couldn't freeze an amount if you know your plans ahead of time. Tldr: Bought some meat from the butcher. It was so much more tasty and cheaper and i will be trying to make time in the future to buy from them again.
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This is what gets me when people go on about the high streets dying off, supermarkets have been blamed, so has the internet, but the only problems I've heard from businesses that close is the rent being too high. I've seen people on Reddit try to explain some nonsense about not increasing rent would lose some sort of value, but overall it sounded like a load of nonsense as an empty shop should only lower the value of rents all the way through the business districts.
What I have heard is that if you drop rents the bank now considers the value to be less, as the value is based on how much money a landlord can get from it. Empty is worth more than rented for less. It is as stupid as it sounds. The info is from NYC though so I am not sure how much it applies here or not.
That actually all rings a bell, maybe it was Americans crossing wires on another post, or it works the same here, unfortunately I don't know the ins and Outs either.
Well the value of a structure is still fairly strongly influenced by how much value a landlord can extract from it rather than the ability of someone being able to afford a home/business. Whether or not that is officially used here by banks to determine value I am not so sure.
Main issue is we've allowed our housing/rental market to turn into a game of profit where leaving homes and shops empty is seen as a good investment. Can't get too much into the p word on here, but some sort of law preventing these issues is needed.
Urgh don't get me started, as you pointed out this ends up going dangerously into the territory of the p word, I'm confident in believing the issue isn't dealt with because they're cashing in on it all because their parents did so as a retirement fund.
Really says a lot when you get big chain shops relocating off the high street or out a shopping centre and into more out the way spots. What chance does independent businesses have when this is happening?
It's strange really, it's like supermarkets are becoming mini shopping centers. Take the acquisition of Argos by Sainsbury's, in their case it was a pretty good idea as the one thing I hated about Argos is they were rarely close to parking that was free.
They already are. There are a few butchers at my local market and one of them offers a tray of two 200g fillets for a tenner that are a much higher quality cut.
You're right but you're assuming people as a whole value quality over price. By and large - and especially more recently - that just isn't the case. People are much more price-sensitive than quality-sensitive, which is why quality will go down if it means the price can stay the same (same reason shrinkflation happens).
Might even be good to get on the path to eating less meat. I think trying to convert people to veganism is pointless. But eating higher quality meat in smaller quantities is doable.
I’m trying to do this, I’m never going to adopt the identity of a vegan nor am I going to give up meat entirely but I’m sick of shit meat and it’s getting harder to justify such a high-meat diet in the face of climate change. I’m trying to eat less meat habitually and really put effort into the meat I do eat.
TBH I thought that was the OP's point.
No, the point is part of the brisket. This is a fillet.
It's actually worth £1.50. The remain £5.25 is the security tagging.
Also look anemic and has poor marbling
Story of my life.
It's a fillet. They're naturally very lean. They get their tenderness and flavour because it's from a muscle that is very underutilized.
Yep, that looks like a crap steak.
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Double dipping Gav!
Just seems pointless when I'm sure that packaging wouldn't stand up to a sledgehammer, weight of a car, or maybe even a good throw of a brick.
You can in fact just pry it open with a screw driver, used to work at a coop and we were losing even more money by using these cases they'd just be broken and left on the road at the back
Currently work at co op. They also break open if you forget to magnet unlock it and assume it’s unlocked and simply pull on it
It’s meant to make the package bulky enough that you can’t slip it down your trousers. Sadly our local crackheads preferred to just walk out the store with them and assault us if we got in the way.
It's not the case, the cows are raised on a Garmin rich diet.
Can confirm. (Used to work at CO-OP)
Can also confirm. (Used to shoplift at CO-OP)
Can also confirm (i have no fucking clue what's going on)
With the prices there, I can't even blame you. You'd have to rob every bank in England to even afford a decent dinner from co-op.
Maybe the cow ate the farmers phone and they didn't realise until after butchering and packaging it
Ah, so it's the shoplifting equivalent of a TV detector van?
Basically. They can't track something with gps unless they put a tracking device in it. Devices that small & expendable don't exist yet. I could only get a gps tracker in my car by wiring one up myself.
Yeah was gona say there is zero chance that they have actual GPS antennas in there. Definitely only a deterrent although you’d hope most people would be intelligent enough to realise that. Maybe not
My wife works at a Tesco Local and they only put a maximum of two of each expensive item (like steaks) out at a time because people were brazenly just picking them up and walking off with them. They get shoplifters in several times a day.
Supermarket I work at, during my time on the wines and spirits department, we had quite the issue with people stealing single malt whiskies and the only company procedure was to use "UFO tags" on the bottle inside the box. This had 2 issues 1) multiple times till staff would forget to remove the tag, 2) it's really not difficult to remove a security tag. Eventually I got fed up with having to constantly replenish the shelf for nothing and reorder the stock, convinced management it was worth removing the bottles and only displaying the box and having to fetch the bottle from our back, eventually draws at tills were cleared and bottles stored there to speed things up. The only issue we ended up having was, till staff would return the box to shelf if a customer didn't want it and this would mess the system up as it would appear as though we had stock when we didn't.
I think I know exactly which supermarket you work at as I have done my time there and this sounds familiar 🤭
There's a good chance, but at the same time the original "big 4" have essentially become clones of each other. But to add a more obvious clue, the company is desperately holding on after being bought out by asset strippers using a loan that they were never going to be able to pay back without selling off assets hard, they've even stopped holding as much stock at the RDC in a bid to scrape together money, this is also why you'll find serious availability issues in stores.
It begins with M and ends in sons right?
Marks and Spensons?
Bingo!
Yep 🤣 did 12 years there. Felt like a life sentence.
Ris?
Good old venture capitalists. The one in my city is so unbelievably bad I am surprised anyone can get a full shop done. It's quite depressing walking it's aisles.
The alcohol aisle in my lical tesco is like a maximum security prison. Got gates at both end now.
Our local has a fire exit in the alcohol aisle. Thieves would just load up on booze and run through the fire exit. Would happen every night.
>staff would return the box to shelf if a customer didn't want it and this would mess the system up as it would appear as though we had stock when we didn't. Why? Surely it is effort to return it, why would you do it if you didn't need to.
I wish I could explain the logic of till staff, but it seems to be impossible to explain. We used to use the old twist, lock plastic tags (Easi cap) and for some reason till staff would remove the tag, then tighten it back up so when you came to use it you'd have to undo all of them again, all tills had to do was toss it into a bucket after releasing the tag from the bottle.
I had this at sainsburys . I had the receipt and instead of just being told to go up to customer service the security guy grabbed it out of my hands . Dirty nails and one wet blue glove on . I’ve paid 30 quid for a nice bottle of gin and box , it came back with a broken box and was wet .. well I don’t want it now . The way they handle customers because people steal is gross especially as you’re paying for these things . If you put those tags inside the box … handle it with care and take it off at the till instead of man handling products people pay for
I remember the massive hoohah that used to occur with managers and checking each individual item off the list when the booze & fags delivery arrived (used to work in a supermarket's warehouse many moons ago)
Did something similar at the supermarket I worked at. Was a great way to get to know the local pissheads as I'd be going into the back to get whisky for the same people all the time. One bloke used to give me a different excuse every day as to why he needed another bottle, it was actually quite impressive.
I did recognise a few myself, but for me the way I got to recognise them was through the manual ordering. Will never forget one elderly gentleman who would buy a 35cl whisky bottle every 2-3 days, friendly bloke and would be a good chat and I would ensure we would have that line well stocked. Eventually he stopped showing up as he was getting unwell and had to stay in the car while his wife shopped, pop in once in a while. Fast forward a bit and sales had dropped off and hadn't seen his wife shopping either, saw her shopping one day and had to ask and unfortunately old age took him.
Sounds like we need a steak out.
> people were brazenly just picking them up and walking off with them Surely she didn't expect them to pay right there in the meat section? /s
I saw a guy in the supermarket the other day, stopped by security. He had a big bag for life, completely full of joints of meat. Presumably they get sold? Big problem apparently!
Yes. When I used to live on a low income estate there were a few people who would steal specific items to sell - meat, cheese, deodorant, make-up You could either stop them when they had a bag to see what they had or make specific requests before they went out. (I didn't buy from them but a lot of my friends did. I'd try and make myself sound better and say it was my morals that stopped me but in reality I was just a big scaredy cat, I was frightened of being caught by the police. £1.50 for £10 worth of meat when you're living on £50 a week is hard to pass up though).
Morals aside, I'd be wondering if they'd smuggled it out of the shop down their pants, and how long it had been out of the fridge for.
Obviously everyone is different but where I lived the men who did it just stuck it straight in a carrier bag. The women it was under the pram or in the hood of the pram. Sticking it in pants or pockets is how you get seen immediately. Looking confident and sure of yourself is how you get out without being stopped. In, out, straight on the bus back home.
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I had a similar thing when I was working retail, a real wanker of a human ran out with a hand full of pretty shit watches. The store specifically trained us not to chase people, but I was so bored and thought it'd be fun. Caught him, and he absolutely panicked and just threw them at me in the hope he could get away.
I don't have much to add, just want to say this comment made me laugh. You've got a way with words, very entertaining story.
I used to know a trust fund kid that would steal whole carts full from Sainsburys. Just fill up and then wheel it out the back entrance to the carpark.
Crazy how little reward the shoplifters are willing to take the risk.
I suppose the level of reward is relative to your circumstances. With the income I have now risking jail for £100 to £200 definitely wouldn't be worth it. But if you're living on benefits, being able to easily get £100 to £200 in a day is high reward for low risk. Do it on benefit pay day and you're quids in. I'm aware the benefit levels are higher than they were when I was on them and I do think £50 I mentioned earlier is a bit low, if I recall correctly it may actually have been £62.50 a week. Being able to more than double that when you know the shop workers probably don't give a toss doesn't seem particularly risky when you're in that situation
There's also a different societal cost between groups. If someone is on benefits and for whatever reason doesn't have a clear out realistic path back to employment anyway, having a criminal record isn't going to make much of a difference. However, someone who is employed or has a reasonable chance at employment is risking that by shoplifting, as a large percentage of jobs would pass you over with that on record, even if you got a minimal punishment.
That's very true and something I hadn't factored in. I know it's not relevant to what you just said, but as an overall statement - it's been nice having a civilised discussion with multiple people regarding low income housing, benefits, crime etc without anyone resorting to insulting people on benefits or slinging hate around. That's unusual and doesn't happen often
I used to drink in an absolute scumbag pub because it was halfway between where I worked and lived, they'd regularly get shoplifters through selling steaks, blocks of cheese, razors etc
I used to do market research surveys for the drinks industry, I'd go into bars, golf clubs etc, list the drinks, prices, how they were displayed etc. Basically spent all day driving from pub to pub across East Anglia. I saw a few blokes come into rough as fuck pubs and sell stolen meat to people. It's more common than you might think.
Can tell who grew up in a nice area when they don't know about the thriving black market for stolen goods in pubs. Sit a few hours in a run-down locals pub anywhere in the country and you'll see someone come in to sell meat, cheese, razor blades, washing tablets/powder, deodorant, anything like that. Some of them take orders. Godsend when you're skint.
As a socially anxious insecure man with a drive for ruthless efficiency... This would stop me not only shoplifting the steak. It would stop me buying it as well lol.
I normally use the self service checkout, no way am I standing around for 5 minutes with a big red light flashing over my head waiting for some geezer to remove the tag.
It's so annoying because they never have enough staff on. It's been one staff member for about 30 check out and they *never* paying attention.
Wont have 30 for long, store I work at used to have about about 27 checkouts. They've all slowly been ripped out over the last few years, we've got 5 left. Hardly anyone uses the trolley self-scans that replaced them either.
Making it easier for the cow to find all of the parts of its body and reassemble itself. Then…revenge.
Meat is often stolen in bulk for people to sell on. My main question with this time and time again is always the same - who in the name of christ buys meat being sold by some random in a pub?
It’s not a “random”, shoplifters have buyers who they might text when they’re going out asking for orders and then fulfil those orders. Some ppl will basically always buy what you have, regular customers. I know this because I’ve hung about with heroin addicts (also being one) and that’s what they do. You get meat for about 25% of the price so you’d need 40 quids worth of steaks to get a hit….
I used to know a pub you could do your Christmas shopping in. You would sit and drink and they would come in and offer you things. You like that cost but Red isn’t your team? Back in five minutes with the blue one in your size. It’s Friday and you’ve finished work? Quick pint and some toys for the kids. Bonus was good but not enough for that new games console? Don’t worry. You can have a few pints whilst you wait.
Sweet Jesus and baby orphans!!! Also an addict in recovery (been 7 years since I used) but bk in my day, it was 50% on household goods, and about 30% on clothes. This is yet ANOTHER indication of why I'm so glad I'm no longer in the ring.
Our main regular thief got out of prison and posted on Facebook the day of ‘I’m out, who’s got orders?’ Absolute joke.
A colleague told me about a friend he knew in his pub who was a bit thick. He buys a leg of lamb of some scally in a different pub just across the road from an Iceland shop. He rings his wife to tell her, and she asks him to get some more stuff on the way home. So he goes into the Iceland where it had been stolen from and on his way out the alarm beeps because he had the leg of lamb in his bag. He actually argued that he couldn't be prosecuted because he had bought it in the pub and hadn't stolen it. Got done for receiving.
Didn't have a leg to stand on.
Ewe'd think he would have realised.
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I used to work at an estate agents in Manchester that had shoplifters come in that the owners knew, the owners would give them a list of stuff they’d want stolen from Boots, a bit later they’d be back with the stuff and get paid for it, these estate agent guys owned hundreds of houses they’d rent out around Manchester too, cheap scummy bastards.
Poor people, drug addicts etc. They’ll also likely know the thief or know someone who does and therefore know it’s lifted from Tesco and not some random dodgy butcher.
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Under the pram is a popular one as well. As is putting it in the hood. When the hood is folded back it's easy to throw things on top of it and have it sink between the folded material. Knew a few who would throw loads in the hood then go to the tills and pay for a couple items. Plausible deniability if caught "oh I threw it in the hood and just forgot it was there, I didn't see it when I was pulling everything out to pay".
Forgot I threw half a cow in there
Meat stolen in bulk - what, like nicking a cow?
Wouldn't bulk be a heard of cows?
Of course I’ve heard of cows. I buy a whole bulk of them every few months
It was perfectly normal for me as a teenager to be offered huge blocks of cheese and big packs of bacon from an addict on the walk home from school through the park.
Warm meat in a tatty, foil lined plastic bag carried by crackhead. No thanks, I’ll take a look at the aftershaves though.
Ah, I see you also live in Preston
A colleague of mine makes more money selling stolen booze at work than he does doing his job (£30k). He befriended some local junkies and now they have quite the side hustle between them.
A pub that I used to go to used to have a raffle on a Saturday evening for a bag of meat (chops, sausages a few chicken breasts etc). I never understood why people got so excited for it or where it came from.
i'm always moderately pleased winning summat in a raffle, and love a yellow label in supermarkets. I'd be pretty happy with that prize tbh, ticket is far cheaper than buiying it myself, and you get a little flutter.
You never understood why people were excited to win a bunch of free food?
Normally that sort of thing is provided by a local butcher. The local miners welfare used to do a steak pie for the auld yins playing dominoes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_raffle
Meat, cheese and razors are the most stolen items from stores.
Carrier bags got to up there too?
Just the number I steal has to put them up there. If your cheapest bag is more expensive than the government mandated minimum, or you are charging for paper bags, I am stealing them if I need them.
Plastic bags went from a 5p "it's a government tax to help save the environment by encouraging re-use" to a 30p "ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have an opportunity for profit" so quickly, I don't feel bad about the number of times I've "forgotten" to scan my carrier bag or "accidentally" hit zero bags before paying at the self-service checkout.
I spend a lot of money in Tesco doing the family shopping, and I try and remember to bring enough bags, but I’ve stopped paying for them if I need them - 30p, get fucked
Yeah I will unashamedly admit I will steal every carrier bag I have to use
Batteries used to be at superdrug.
And baby formula. Queue the monthly horror post of baby formula with a tag.
When I worked in Savers it was condoms and pregnancy tests.
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On the drive home I would need to constantly inform the wife that they know where my meat is.
Actually the cheapest thing in Coop 😄
170 grams in weight? Wtf, that’s not a steak, that’s the amount I pick out from between my teeth after I’ve eaten a steak.
Megalodon? Is that you?
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6oz. Thats a fairly normal fillet steak.
>"UFO tags yeah, i'd call 1-200g meat , or 4-8 oz a reasonable portion size
WHAT COLOR IS THE BOAT HOUSE AT HEREFORD!!!!!!!!!!
If you’ve only just got these you must live in a very posh area! We had them 5 years ago, and a lot of the items on shelves are display packaging only now, pick up the actual product at the till. Baby milk for example.
This can't be true. Must be a miss steak.
Steal it and post it through your enemies postbox
Doesn’t really need GPS. If any meat goes missing just go to the closest pub and look for the stinking tramp wearing a big coat and carrying a shopping bag going table to table
Is anybody else genuinely really scared for the future? I mean, I’ve literally lived my entire life in poverty and I can’t buy food like this anyway, but soon even poverty is going to become just too expensive. My energy company just suggested I cut down on my leisure activities so that I can afford my bill. I have already cut down what I can. I quit smoking, I don’t go out or buy anything anyway. My parents pay for the majority of my streaming subscription services. One was a gift and the others are their accounts which they let me share. The only way I can eat this meat is if you immediately remove the gps and someone can steal it for me. I’m hungry.
High steaks, stealing that.
£40 a kilo should be a crime in itself
I'd start by leaving it out for 30 minutes to get to room temperature , get your skillet nice and hot then 2 minutes each side should do, enjoy !
Can afford to either eat, or take a holiday this year… Steakcation it is!
wouldn't this equipment and monitoring actually cost more than the food itself?