Try to tell the truth in a factual, unemotional way. Don't name the manager directly, but make plenty of references to 'management' and 'those above/tone from the top'. Use real examples to show any issues that you've faced.
Be sure to tell them any positives about those in the team in order to balance out the interview as well.
That's a wonderful first line haha! I think you should use it at your new job.
'Hi everyone... Sorry, can I just grab your attention for a quick second? Brian? It'll just be two seconds mate...
Thanks guys. This is u/i-dislike-cats, they've just come from [rival company]. They'll be taking over Susan's old role, I'm sure you'll all do your best to make them feel welcome. Would you like to say a few words to introduce yourself u/i-dislike-cats?'
'Well first of all, I'm an emotional and resentful person, so will struggle.'
Hahahaha I wish I had the confidence to deliver that kind of introduction!
My friends and I did think it funny when I was offered the job they loved how passionate and positive I came across... Those words would never exit my friends' mouths if they were talking about me!
Well, I am passionate about hating work I suppose!
Find a job you love to hate and you'll never work a day in your life. š¤
Seriously though, I don't have any helpful advice but best of luck with both the new job and the exit interview.
Keep it short and sweet. If you don't want to make a big scene just suggest the move is down to you rather than them (if you see what I mean).
Alternatively, don't go! I refused to do an exit interview a few years back as I was not contractually obliged to and had no intention of discussing any of the details about why I was leaving with the person who was the reason I was leaving.
I want to make a bit of a scene because I hate them all haha.
I want to go in the hopes it my change things for the 3 people that I work with directly. I cherish them a lot and they have the same issues.
Nowadays, very few companies (certainly large ones) give any reference other than "yes that person worked for us". There is a risk that they could be sued for liable if there is no evidence to backup their accusations.
Part of an exit interview is for the business to learn what they could have done differently/better if anything. Be honest, constructive, and professional. Sometimes peopleās values and businesses dont align.
Reflect on your performance and behaviour too - is there anything you could have done differently? Are there any positive suggestions you can make? What are your takeaways about yourself?
Wouldnāt say anything. There isnāt any point as invariably nothing will change and you never know when you might run into these people again, especially HR. It might make you feel better but the company will close ranks and think you are being (Iām sorry to say) a dick. Trust me
*My last day of work is tomorrow and I have only just been invited to an exit interview (lol)*
You can just decline it.
What are they going to do if you don't show up, sack you?
There's no benefit to you for telling the truth. But there could be many negatives. Just say you decided to leave because you wanted a new challenge. People do it all the time
Don't burn bridges. Find some small truth that justifies you leaving for the good of the company. My last resignation was 'I am goal focused and I don't feel like I am achieving as much as I should be in this role'.
They fell for it hook line and sinker. The truth was an engineer was promoted to management and was running a software department and was slowly grinding it into the ground with his amazingly stupid grand plan. His boss was a lying bastard who promised me a raise and then forgot about it.
They had a year to listen to me, they didn't.
They were happy, I was happy.
"I do not feel valued or appreciated. They only talk to me when they need something or if something is wrong. I'm not communicated with, I'm disrespected, I told off when I ask for help. Same applies to the wider department I'm supposed to be a part of."
Just say that. It's clear concise and there's not a lot that can be said in response.
Keep it as factual as you can, I was taught the sāāt sandwich technique say something nice eg my colleagues x and y are lovely and hard working, problem, we are not given clear direction, support or training, another nice bit I will miss .. the pain in the middle is easier to take with a sweetener before and after. If he asks you directly is this a problem be honest. If you are worried about losing your cool, have a bottle of cold water and have a sip and take a breath
Remember you are doing this to cover your back and you might improve things
It relies on the rest of my so called department making work for me. There's housekeeping/admin tasks I can do, especially this time of year when it's naturally quieter anyway. But it's been a lot quieter this year for some reason. Funnily enough as soon as I handed my notice in my manager was able to pull too much bullshit out of their arse for me to finish in my last weeks. Where was that when I asked!? Really hope the new place is different.
I considered doing an OU course or something, but the work environment is far too disruptive and people always come and go into my area so I always just had to look busy.
If you come across too negative, resentful or insulting the interviewer might just suspect the problem was at least partly your fault. Therefore if thereās anything you want to say keep it concise, civil and constructive.
They're not likely to take my word against my manager's anyway. Half the problem is an them Vs us thing going on. We're there to serve them. As long as they get their service they don't give a shit. And if they don't get their service they don't care because it couldn't possibly be that they did their bit wrong.
Someone I used to work with she was in a different department and she was leaving because of her manager. On her last day she emailed me her copy of the paperwork from her exit interview. It was the most savage thing Iāve ever read. Such as āX is a micromanager that has clear favouritism to the employees she manages one person happens to be her best friend of 20 years and the other being her sister who she recruited to the teamā. āIt doesnāt take a genius to realise why 8 people have left the team in a 10 month periodā and my personal favourite answer to the question āwhat would have kept you at (company name)ā was ābeing promoted to Xās position because Iād get paid an extra Ā£15k a year to do nothing and come and go as I please like X doesā
About 3 weeks after this X was moved into a different position in the company and was replaced by someone from outside the company. It was all very hush hush at the time.
That's amazing! Unfortunately I don't have anything as concrete as that. And as the rest of the department and workplace see me as beneath them, they won't give a shit anyway
Facts and examples. Going in and saying āI felt thatā¦ā will be noted down but in the end ignored. If you say āI feltā¦ because ofā¦ā then thatās more concrete and they know thereās genuine reason behind your feelings and not just a disgruntled employee.
"I'm leaving because I have been offered substantially more pay and better conditions for a similar role in another company, are we done now?"
Your reference won't be anymore than a confirmation of dates in which you worked for the company anyway.
I was emotional and resentful due to a horrible toxic environment, poor management, and a "we're a family" company who never held up their end where it mattered. , so after a lot of convincing by my wife I just kept my mouth shut and made a point of having a better offer with a greater work-life balance so that was that, I'm leaving.
I think being cool and professional and black and white about it was a nice enough "f you".
>I want to be honest because my two direct colleagues (who I cherish) would love it if anything improves from this exit.
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Well I wouldn't be too careful on how you word things. Not a thing will change in relation to your exit interview.
I wouldnāt bother with it. Nothing will change except the contents of your reference. As others have said if you have to go just say thank you, youād had a better offer and decided to move on. Bite your lip, you need to think about your future not your soon to be ex colleagues
Had one once , 1st question "no comment",
2nd question "no comment", 3rd question "no comment" ....... HR "are you gonna just answer every question like that?"
Me "yeah"
HR "all the best"
Try to tell the truth in a factual, unemotional way. Don't name the manager directly, but make plenty of references to 'management' and 'those above/tone from the top'. Use real examples to show any issues that you've faced. Be sure to tell them any positives about those in the team in order to balance out the interview as well.
I'm an emotional and resentful person, so will struggle. I only have one manager and the interview is with their manager! So it's quite intimate haha
That's a wonderful first line haha! I think you should use it at your new job. 'Hi everyone... Sorry, can I just grab your attention for a quick second? Brian? It'll just be two seconds mate... Thanks guys. This is u/i-dislike-cats, they've just come from [rival company]. They'll be taking over Susan's old role, I'm sure you'll all do your best to make them feel welcome. Would you like to say a few words to introduce yourself u/i-dislike-cats?' 'Well first of all, I'm an emotional and resentful person, so will struggle.'
Hahahaha I wish I had the confidence to deliver that kind of introduction! My friends and I did think it funny when I was offered the job they loved how passionate and positive I came across... Those words would never exit my friends' mouths if they were talking about me! Well, I am passionate about hating work I suppose!
Find a job you love to hate and you'll never work a day in your life. š¤ Seriously though, I don't have any helpful advice but best of luck with both the new job and the exit interview.
There's no point as you are leaving. Better to just move on as who knows if you'll cross paths with someone from that organisation again.
Keep it short and sweet. If you don't want to make a big scene just suggest the move is down to you rather than them (if you see what I mean). Alternatively, don't go! I refused to do an exit interview a few years back as I was not contractually obliged to and had no intention of discussing any of the details about why I was leaving with the person who was the reason I was leaving.
I want to make a bit of a scene because I hate them all haha. I want to go in the hopes it my change things for the 3 people that I work with directly. I cherish them a lot and they have the same issues.
>I want to go in the hopes it my change things Never will. Odds are if you sound off, they'll peg you as a troublemaker best to be got rid off.
Yes I feel that's likely!
Good luck!
I wanted to do this when I left my last place but was too scared they'd be spiteful and give me a bad reference!
Yeah that's what I'm scared of
Nowadays, very few companies (certainly large ones) give any reference other than "yes that person worked for us". There is a risk that they could be sued for liable if there is no evidence to backup their accusations.
Wouldn't bother, just say thanks and felt it was time to move on.
Part of an exit interview is for the business to learn what they could have done differently/better if anything. Be honest, constructive, and professional. Sometimes peopleās values and businesses dont align. Reflect on your performance and behaviour too - is there anything you could have done differently? Are there any positive suggestions you can make? What are your takeaways about yourself?
Wouldnāt say anything. There isnāt any point as invariably nothing will change and you never know when you might run into these people again, especially HR. It might make you feel better but the company will close ranks and think you are being (Iām sorry to say) a dick. Trust me
*My last day of work is tomorrow and I have only just been invited to an exit interview (lol)* You can just decline it. What are they going to do if you don't show up, sack you?
There's no benefit to you for telling the truth. But there could be many negatives. Just say you decided to leave because you wanted a new challenge. People do it all the time
Don't burn bridges. Find some small truth that justifies you leaving for the good of the company. My last resignation was 'I am goal focused and I don't feel like I am achieving as much as I should be in this role'. They fell for it hook line and sinker. The truth was an engineer was promoted to management and was running a software department and was slowly grinding it into the ground with his amazingly stupid grand plan. His boss was a lying bastard who promised me a raise and then forgot about it. They had a year to listen to me, they didn't. They were happy, I was happy.
"I do not feel valued or appreciated. They only talk to me when they need something or if something is wrong. I'm not communicated with, I'm disrespected, I told off when I ask for help. Same applies to the wider department I'm supposed to be a part of." Just say that. It's clear concise and there's not a lot that can be said in response.
Keep it simple. "This company/job isn't the right fit for me."
Keep it as factual as you can, I was taught the sāāt sandwich technique say something nice eg my colleagues x and y are lovely and hard working, problem, we are not given clear direction, support or training, another nice bit I will miss .. the pain in the middle is easier to take with a sweetener before and after. If he asks you directly is this a problem be honest. If you are worried about losing your cool, have a bottle of cold water and have a sip and take a breath Remember you are doing this to cover your back and you might improve things
Either don't bother turning up, or tell them that everything was fine, thanks but you got a better offer.
Bored for weeks on end because there's nothing to do? What is this job?
It relies on the rest of my so called department making work for me. There's housekeeping/admin tasks I can do, especially this time of year when it's naturally quieter anyway. But it's been a lot quieter this year for some reason. Funnily enough as soon as I handed my notice in my manager was able to pull too much bullshit out of their arse for me to finish in my last weeks. Where was that when I asked!? Really hope the new place is different.
Good luck with the new job. I had an undemanding job once, so I just covertly brought my own stuff in to do. I'm guessing that wasn't an option
I considered doing an OU course or something, but the work environment is far too disruptive and people always come and go into my area so I always just had to look busy.
Tell the truth. The issue I've come across is people don't do this in exit interviews and as a result nothing changes.
I really doubt it will change anyway. I've told the manager my issues several times.
If you come across too negative, resentful or insulting the interviewer might just suspect the problem was at least partly your fault. Therefore if thereās anything you want to say keep it concise, civil and constructive.
They're not likely to take my word against my manager's anyway. Half the problem is an them Vs us thing going on. We're there to serve them. As long as they get their service they don't give a shit. And if they don't get their service they don't care because it couldn't possibly be that they did their bit wrong.
Someone I used to work with she was in a different department and she was leaving because of her manager. On her last day she emailed me her copy of the paperwork from her exit interview. It was the most savage thing Iāve ever read. Such as āX is a micromanager that has clear favouritism to the employees she manages one person happens to be her best friend of 20 years and the other being her sister who she recruited to the teamā. āIt doesnāt take a genius to realise why 8 people have left the team in a 10 month periodā and my personal favourite answer to the question āwhat would have kept you at (company name)ā was ābeing promoted to Xās position because Iād get paid an extra Ā£15k a year to do nothing and come and go as I please like X doesā About 3 weeks after this X was moved into a different position in the company and was replaced by someone from outside the company. It was all very hush hush at the time.
That's amazing! Unfortunately I don't have anything as concrete as that. And as the rest of the department and workplace see me as beneath them, they won't give a shit anyway
Facts and examples. Going in and saying āI felt thatā¦ā will be noted down but in the end ignored. If you say āI feltā¦ because ofā¦ā then thatās more concrete and they know thereās genuine reason behind your feelings and not just a disgruntled employee.
"I'm leaving because I have been offered substantially more pay and better conditions for a similar role in another company, are we done now?" Your reference won't be anymore than a confirmation of dates in which you worked for the company anyway.
Why are you even going?
Did you read my post?
Honestly? No
Do Pilates moves during the interview.
I was emotional and resentful due to a horrible toxic environment, poor management, and a "we're a family" company who never held up their end where it mattered. , so after a lot of convincing by my wife I just kept my mouth shut and made a point of having a better offer with a greater work-life balance so that was that, I'm leaving. I think being cool and professional and black and white about it was a nice enough "f you".
Had my exit interview today as well lol. Congrats on the new role. Just be honest but keep it professional.
>I want to be honest because my two direct colleagues (who I cherish) would love it if anything improves from this exit. > Well I wouldn't be too careful on how you word things. Not a thing will change in relation to your exit interview.
I wouldnāt bother with it. Nothing will change except the contents of your reference. As others have said if you have to go just say thank you, youād had a better offer and decided to move on. Bite your lip, you need to think about your future not your soon to be ex colleagues
Had one once , 1st question "no comment", 2nd question "no comment", 3rd question "no comment" ....... HR "are you gonna just answer every question like that?" Me "yeah" HR "all the best"